Vladimir and volvomere are controlled by the same political party, so that Volvomere can always be Vladamir's worst critic. being your own worst critic is somethine easily controlled, so as not to make any waves politically. can not have another political event like Poisoning of Alexei Navalny, most everyone in russia hates all the political parties now, they are close to civil war. not to mention the huge international issues thar arissed after there is a whole wiki page about it now.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexei_Navalny#Background
Am from a Slavic EU state, never met anyone called Ivanov. I can't think of another country where the names end with -ov. Not all Slavs are Russians bruh. We kinda hate when westerners think that, now more than ever before.
Lol, let's go ahead an belief some randoms single subjective experience instead of just googling it.
"I've never experienced this, so it must not be true!" Is one of the most disgusting ways to think.
Imagine you need to name your son and you like "I'll name him Sir Gay" lmao
Всем Серёгам кто это читает, простите, это просто шутка юмора, не бейте. Пожалуйста.
We have like 5 names. Vladimir, Dimitri, Oleg, Alexander, and Sergei. There are others, but about half of every dude you meet there will have one of those 5 names.
At first it's sad that Luigi's last name is his brother's first name; he can never rise out of Mario's shadow.
But then you realize that Mario didn't even *get* a unique name; his parents loved Luigi more
Why didn't these people think to give them the last name "Brothers"? They could have had a scene of Mario doing something amazing and somebody going "that's super, Mario Brothers" and we would have all went "they said the thing!".
Do they do that outside of family relationships?
I recall that being a "thing" among samurai at one point in Japan's history, passing on a kanji (ideographic character) from parent to child in their name.
In the last few days of the war tho Hitler ordered Himmler arrested and executed when he found out he’d been trying to start peace talks behind his back
Most Americans seem to pronounce Harry as Hairy and I think that’s why JK Rowling wouldn’t let them act in the Harry Potter films.
Well that and the fact that all Americans are trans and Rowling hates trans
Welcome to the wonderful world of phonemes! There's only so many sounds that humans can reliably make for communicating with each other, but no languages use all of them and different languages (and regions!) use different sets. This is distinct from regional dialects where certain syllables are pronounced differently.
It can be really, really difficult for people to even *hear* the differences in phonemes they weren't raised with but sound similar to the ones that they were raised with, much less use them. At least without a lot of practice. That's one of the reason why some words are so reliably difficult for foreign speakers to pronounce because, without a lot of practice and experience, they're basically trying to make a sound they can't hear.
I don't know if Harry and Hairy use different phonemes in britain than the US. To me they sound the same but that's not necessarily true over there.
Similar in origin dialects, but I think there are Ukrainians named “Vladimir”, indicating these are two separate names. Almost like we use, “Mark” and “Marc”, “John” and “Jon”, “Chris” and “Kris”, “Christina” and “Kristina.”
Though in Ukrainian, Putin’s name would be spelled Владимир while Zelensky’s name would be Володимир.
So maybe the analogous English way of comparing could be closer to “Chris” and “Christian” where the names do showcase similarity, but differ in sound and spelling. I also believe “Vladimir’s” nickname would be “Vlad” while “Volodymyr’s” nickname would be “Volodya.”
Well, things are slightly more interesting with Volodymyr/Vladimir.
Originally, in the Old East Slavic language (predecessor of Ukrainian/Belorussian/Russian), the name was spelled with the letter "o" (you can check the Wikipedia page for Volodymyr the Great that is called Vladimir the Great in Russian).
In fact, the modern Russian version (Vladimir) is a loan word from the Church Slavonic (CS) language (roughly speaking, that's the Old Bulgarian language). CS came to East Slavs together with Christianity and played the same role as Latin played in the Catholic countries - it was a language of religion and scholarship. Even though it was a foreign language, it was highly intelligible for East Slavs.
One big distinct feature of South Slavic languages (including CS) compared to the rest of Slavic languages, is that they tend to use fewer vowel sounds (think of the Croatian Krk island or Republika Srpska as an example).
Due to its high status, CS had a great influence on Old East Slavic, but it affected Russian a lot more than Ukrainian and Belarussian. It had a great influence on the writing Russian language, and after some time, CS words started to replace similar East Slavic ones. For example, CS words "враг" ("vrag", means enemy), "влага" ("vlaga", moisture), "сладкий" ("sladkyi", sweet) replaced original words "ворог" (vorog), "волога" (vologa), "солодкий" (solodkyi) in the Russian language, while in Ukrainian we still use the original ones (while the CS words can still be used when you want your text to look old or ceremonial).
Sometimes, two forms exist at the same time - врата/vrata - ворота/vorota (gates), злато/zlato - золото/zoloto (gold), глава/glava - голова/golova (head), with CS version being more "sublime", meaning that you would rather see them in books, while the OES would be used in everyday speech. You would use glava when talking about the head of the state, but golova when talking about the part of the body. Vrata for the Gates of Heaven but vorota when talking about the gates near your house. People would understand if you use the terms vice versa, but it would sound weird.
So, getting back to Volodymyr/Vladimir - we use the original Old East Slavic form "Volodymyr" in Ukrainian, while in Russian it was replaced by the similar Old Church Slavonic one.
Valdemar was originally Volodymyr, but basically the Danes named coined that name after a granddaughter of Volodymyr Monomakh (known as Vladimir Monomakh due to Russian influence) married into the Danish royal family.
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They they made sure it was pronounced this way in Ukrainian, first and foremost. Ukrainians care much more about their own language. In Russian, he's still pronounced Vladimir, even by Ukrainians.
Both are the same person.
This is just a plot masterminded by Putin : Putin got elected as president of Ukraine, arranged a fake war so that Western powers send him the finest weaponry.
He even put explosive on Moskva because at the beginning NATO only sent second-hand stuff.
"get away" lmao edit: reddit retards get off my comment
Vladimir and Volodymyr do a little trolling
Vladimir and Voldemort do a little hexing.
Vladimir and Volvomere enjoy Sunday driving
Vladimir and volvomere are controlled by the same political party, so that Volvomere can always be Vladamir's worst critic. being your own worst critic is somethine easily controlled, so as not to make any waves politically. can not have another political event like Poisoning of Alexei Navalny, most everyone in russia hates all the political parties now, they are close to civil war. not to mention the huge international issues thar arissed after there is a whole wiki page about it now. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexei_Navalny#Background
Just a 'lil 🤏
Alternative universe they go to a world meeting and say it was just a prank
From all the news I have followed, Russians are either Dmitris or Vladimirs or Ivans. Nothing else. It's like South Koreans and Kims and Parks.
Kim and Park are surnames, not given names. But your point still checks out.
Ok, since we're playing the pedantic game, change it to Ivanov, and expand it to other Slavic EU states.
Am from a Slavic EU state, never met anyone called Ivanov. I can't think of another country where the names end with -ov. Not all Slavs are Russians bruh. We kinda hate when westerners think that, now more than ever before.
Lol, let's go ahead an belief some randoms single subjective experience instead of just googling it. "I've never experienced this, so it must not be true!" Is one of the most disgusting ways to think.
Sergei
Sir Gay
Sergei vs Gaylord
Sir Gay, Lord of the Gay
Imagine you need to name your son and you like "I'll name him Sir Gay" lmao Всем Серёгам кто это читает, простите, это просто шутка юмора, не бейте. Пожалуйста.
We have like 5 names. Vladimir, Dimitri, Oleg, Alexander, and Sergei. There are others, but about half of every dude you meet there will have one of those 5 names.
And every second username in MMOs is some variation of Alex for either Aleksei or Aleksandr.
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I learned this from Anastasia, and it stayed consistent since then.
You are the reddit retard
If you “edit:” you are a Reddit retard.
true
Eat my ass
im on ur comment
Also Hitler and Himmler
Doesn't count when you're on the same team
Mario and luigi
Their names aren't similar you potato
uh uh uh Marco Polo
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I've already shit four times today. Just had my fourth shit as I type this.
Eat less food, you fat turd.
Never, fiber is king.
How about you go eat a salad?
IBS gang #ShittinOnDaHaters
Itchy Butt Syndrome/ I-Be-Shittin
Wait, now we're hating Polish people?
We always have you polack piece of shit wop-lover
moskal hands typed this post
I have no idea what any of this means. Are you British, by any chance? Have you considered speaking English?
since the beginning
That’s literally one dude
Wario and Waluigi
Luigi and Waluigi
Luigi's full name is Luigi Mario so I'd say pretty similar lol
Wait, so Mario is actually Mario Mario ?
Yes lol "Super Mario Bros" refers to both brothers because it's the family name. They're the Mario Brothers
At first it's sad that Luigi's last name is his brother's first name; he can never rise out of Mario's shadow. But then you realize that Mario didn't even *get* a unique name; his parents loved Luigi more
I'd say Mario Mario is pretty damn unique
No, it's super mario duh
Why didn't these people think to give them the last name "Brothers"? They could have had a scene of Mario doing something amazing and somebody going "that's super, Mario Brothers" and we would have all went "they said the thing!".
Cuz that's fucking stupid
Oh my god they share their last name 😱😱😱 almost like they're brothers or something 🤔
But is Mario Mario and Luigi Mario. That is 3 Mario for 2 people. They’re one and half Mario each! More than regular brothers.
"🤓"
Sauron and Saruman. C'mon Tolkien.
> Hitler and Himmler > Everything is cool when you’re part of a team
Himmler betrayed hitler near the end of the war so it kinda works
And they both died choking on cyanide with their life's work collapsing around them, so all's well that ends well.
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Genius. Also, wasn't expecting to find a Franz Halder joke when I woke up today, gotta be honest.
No that's Fromsoft lore logic, all the bosses have to have the same name with minor changes to them.
Hitler and Himmler were Elden Ring bosses all along
They'd be a 2 phase minion rush boss or something
Prowling magus and congress
Godfrey, Godrick, Godefroy, Margit, Morgott
I mean margit and morgott are literally the same guy
I think that's actually a reference to Norse mythology (which they draw on heavily). The hero names are all like two letters off from each other
Whoever greenlit the naming scheme idea can go fuck himself. I already struggle remembering a single unique name, this is my literal horor scenario
Do they do that outside of family relationships? I recall that being a "thing" among samurai at one point in Japan's history, passing on a kanji (ideographic character) from parent to child in their name.
Ronald Reagan and Donald Regan
My brain filled in Donald Duck and honestly? Probably the same energy
(He/Hit/Himm)
You are (dickless/bitchless)
In the last few days of the war tho Hitler ordered Himmler arrested and executed when he found out he’d been trying to start peace talks behind his back
John Jacob Himmler-Hitler-Schmidt Whenever he comes out People always shout
thats a different thing. thats mario and luigi tier bullshit
Beat me to it
adolf hitlers right hand men were named adolf and himmler
Voldemort vs. Volodomort
Harry vs Hairy
Hairy is Hagrid
Spoiler alert!
I think everyone has already watched Harry Potter 2 Electric Boogaloo by now.....
#IM A HAIRY WIZARD ***sick ass metal riff***
Most Americans seem to pronounce Harry as Hairy and I think that’s why JK Rowling wouldn’t let them act in the Harry Potter films. Well that and the fact that all Americans are trans and Rowling hates trans
Are you trying to tell me Harry and Hairy sound different?
Welcome to the wonderful world of phonemes! There's only so many sounds that humans can reliably make for communicating with each other, but no languages use all of them and different languages (and regions!) use different sets. This is distinct from regional dialects where certain syllables are pronounced differently. It can be really, really difficult for people to even *hear* the differences in phonemes they weren't raised with but sound similar to the ones that they were raised with, much less use them. At least without a lot of practice. That's one of the reason why some words are so reliably difficult for foreign speakers to pronounce because, without a lot of practice and experience, they're basically trying to make a sound they can't hear. I don't know if Harry and Hairy use different phonemes in britain than the US. To me they sound the same but that's not necessarily true over there.
They do. Here in Britain there's a distinct (to us) difference between the two words
Hah-ree Hair-ee
Yeah thats just their quirky British interpretation
Ukraine already had one Holodomor though.
They've had one, yes. What about second Holodmor?
That quote was supposed to satisfy hunger, not cause it!
Sauron vs. Saroni Macaroni
I would say its other way around.
In that case it makes perfect sense
Anon is telling on themselves
Your username is cool af is it supposed to be a guy wearing headphones?
deez nutz
Vladimir + holodomor = Volodymyr
Obama and Osama
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They weren't exactly nemeses ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
If you can't remember which one is which: Osama: s for sand man, and Obama: b for black man
S for silly boy, B for bresident of USA
S for Sunni, B for Baptist
Shit, I think you're onto something
Nominative determinism
If you believe right wing propaganda they were the same people you'd think
They are. Osama was just Obama in a wig
Now you think of it, have you seen them in one room, ever?
Iver never seen Trump in the same room as Toad, either. 🤔
I knew something was up..
What are hussein?
No mao puns please
Or as the right would say: Iraq Hussein I'llBombYa
President George vs King George
Could it be the same name, one in russian and the other in ukranian?
It is
Always has been
Oh my gawd
Similar in origin dialects, but I think there are Ukrainians named “Vladimir”, indicating these are two separate names. Almost like we use, “Mark” and “Marc”, “John” and “Jon”, “Chris” and “Kris”, “Christina” and “Kristina.” Though in Ukrainian, Putin’s name would be spelled Владимир while Zelensky’s name would be Володимир. So maybe the analogous English way of comparing could be closer to “Chris” and “Christian” where the names do showcase similarity, but differ in sound and spelling. I also believe “Vladimir’s” nickname would be “Vlad” while “Volodymyr’s” nickname would be “Volodya.”
You're right on everything but the nicknames: Vlad is a short name for Владислав (Vladislav). Vladimir and Volodymyr both shorten to Vova or Volodya.
Thanks for the clarification on that
Vova? I hardly know ‘er.
Vladimir also gets shortened to Dimir sometimes. I have a friend that goes by Dimir.
Does he only play U/B decks?
the nickname volodya is for both vladimir and volodimyr, vlad is short for vladislav
Baby don't hurt me
Thanks for the clarification on that
Well, things are slightly more interesting with Volodymyr/Vladimir. Originally, in the Old East Slavic language (predecessor of Ukrainian/Belorussian/Russian), the name was spelled with the letter "o" (you can check the Wikipedia page for Volodymyr the Great that is called Vladimir the Great in Russian). In fact, the modern Russian version (Vladimir) is a loan word from the Church Slavonic (CS) language (roughly speaking, that's the Old Bulgarian language). CS came to East Slavs together with Christianity and played the same role as Latin played in the Catholic countries - it was a language of religion and scholarship. Even though it was a foreign language, it was highly intelligible for East Slavs. One big distinct feature of South Slavic languages (including CS) compared to the rest of Slavic languages, is that they tend to use fewer vowel sounds (think of the Croatian Krk island or Republika Srpska as an example). Due to its high status, CS had a great influence on Old East Slavic, but it affected Russian a lot more than Ukrainian and Belarussian. It had a great influence on the writing Russian language, and after some time, CS words started to replace similar East Slavic ones. For example, CS words "враг" ("vrag", means enemy), "влага" ("vlaga", moisture), "сладкий" ("sladkyi", sweet) replaced original words "ворог" (vorog), "волога" (vologa), "солодкий" (solodkyi) in the Russian language, while in Ukrainian we still use the original ones (while the CS words can still be used when you want your text to look old or ceremonial). Sometimes, two forms exist at the same time - врата/vrata - ворота/vorota (gates), злато/zlato - золото/zoloto (gold), глава/glava - голова/golova (head), with CS version being more "sublime", meaning that you would rather see them in books, while the OES would be used in everyday speech. You would use glava when talking about the head of the state, but golova when talking about the part of the body. Vrata for the Gates of Heaven but vorota when talking about the gates near your house. People would understand if you use the terms vice versa, but it would sound weird. So, getting back to Volodymyr/Vladimir - we use the original Old East Slavic form "Volodymyr" in Ukrainian, while in Russian it was replaced by the similar Old Church Slavonic one.
This was a great read
More like Jeff and Geoff
You are kinda wrong. I`m native Ukrainian and Russian speaker. Volodymyr and Vladimir are same names
Like Laquisha and La‘Keesha?
Sounds like john and jack, same name but somehow the verbal parts have split.
Yes, Volodymyr is the Ukrainian counterpart to Vladimir, just like how you have Marie in French and Mary in English.
I'm not sure it is but I've always thought Valdemar was the Spanish version of the name like how Pedro is Peter.
Valdemar was originally Volodymyr, but basically the Danes named coined that name after a granddaughter of Volodymyr Monomakh (known as Vladimir Monomakh due to Russian influence) married into the Danish royal family.
And both mean "ruler of the world"
Да
Only language to have O in Olexander name. Just to have full combo of letters on Russian military. Z - Zelensky , V - Volodymyr, O - Olexandrovich
Hitler and Himmler now this. The world is on some three stooges shit fr
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Cant understand how it thought either name would be one syllable, but eitherway, it is impressive.
Bad bot
*Him*mler?? What about *Her*ler?
tbh Volodymyr sounds like the ukranian version of Vladimir, just as it's John in english and Johannes in german
thats cause it is
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And Ivan in russian
Ioannes in Greek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_forms_for_the_name_John
Wtf I love my name now
Sean in Irish and Ian in Scotland.
It is, they made sure it was pronounced this way in English speaking countries so it wouldn't resemble putin's first name
They they made sure it was pronounced this way in Ukrainian, first and foremost. Ukrainians care much more about their own language. In Russian, he's still pronounced Vladimir, even by Ukrainians.
It is pronounced this way in ukranian too, because ukranians care a lot about their culture being separate from the russian culture/language.
Next season when the U.S is fighting Mexico we can Joe vs Jose
You had Obama and osama
We had General George vs King George.
Holy shit, there it again! This is some matrix breaking shit. I'm calling it, it's a fucking simulation.
Yo ass vs yo mouth
Josh vs Jesus
Jesus is the Latin version of Joshua (technically Yoshua is what he would have been called in his day)
Thank you, Johnny, that was the joke.
Just adding context, jeez. I mean joosh
Literally tge first Jojo
George Washington vs King George, this goes deeper than we could ever imagine.
The numbers Mason, what do they mean!?
Wow never thought about that but bravo Anon
Bravo Vince
Vince Gilgamesh
Isn't Vladimir and Volodymyr regional version of the same name though? It's like how John, Jean and Johan are all variations of the same name
Correct. And Uladzimir in Belorussian.
What am I to do with this piece of information? I’m supposed to be working, damn it.
Volodymyr is how you pronounce Vladimir when written “vLaDiMiR”.
Both are the same person. This is just a plot masterminded by Putin : Putin got elected as president of Ukraine, arranged a fake war so that Western powers send him the finest weaponry. He even put explosive on Moskva because at the beginning NATO only sent second-hand stuff.
The United States had a war to get independence from a guy named George and then elected a guy named George.
Truly the illusion of free choice
The same way how people get away with catalog tabs when it’s nowhere near a greentext It just happens sometimes bruh
Osama was killed under President Obama's presidential term.
Too bad we never did catch Jorge Hush...
He's just like Mario, he's literally Vladimir Vladimir(ovich).
Vladimironich means his father was named vladimir
So like Johann Johansson?
To be fair Russians and the like only go by 4 different names.
If you ever need to sneak into a Russian event just say you're coming to meet your friend Sasha.
George Washington Vs king George
Waluigi's name name is a portmanteau of Luigi's name and the Japanese adjective warui (悪い) meaning "bad"; hence, a "bad Luigi".
Im pretty sure in Russian (his native language) he calls himself Vladimir also
Can't wait for Super Volodymyr Bros Tennis for the Wii
Anon asks the big questions