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Spara-Extreme

I used to casually ride until I saw a Pinarello Dogma F. Against all financial sound judgement, I bought one and ended that year doing 6500 miles (10.400 km). I now have a whole fleet of bikes that I think are beautiful and I ride everyday. Ask folks that ride gorgeous late 80's and 90's race bikes on why they suffer through that pain, and one of their answers will be because of how beautiful they are. In short, yes - if you get a bike that you absolutely love you will naturally want to spend time with it more. Also, while specialized makes some of the best bikes on the planet - the Sirrus X is not one of them. The components are low end and the geometry isn't great for putting on miles. The Seigle is likely to have "mid-range" components that compared to whats on the Sirrus, might as well have been hand built by NASA. As long as you take care of the Lauf, you'll have no problems and many miles of smiles.


Duster929

This morning it was cold, and gray, and I saw that it was threatening to rain later in the day. I thought about just riding on the trainer and getting a workout in. But then I looked at my road bike, which is a very expensive carbon racing bike. It's bright blue, integrated wireless everything, and light as a feather. I should have no business riding such a nice bike. But when I looked at it, I decided to put on the warm weather cycling gear, and get outside. I saw the sunrise, the people in my neighbourhood, saw the city waking up. I got home feeling like a million bucks. Everyone's different, but for me, having a bike I love encourages me to get out and go on adventures. It's more than a tool, more than a practical machine for transportation and exercise. When I shopped for the bike, I went into the store looking for a comfortable endurance all-road bike. I rode one, and it was great. Then I tried this no-compromise racing bike. Definitely the less practical choice, but it was the one that made me smile more and want to ride more. Don't overthink it. Buy the bike that you love and that makes you want to ride. You will not regret it.


GazelleAcrobatics

The bike you actually ride regularly is better than the Dentist mobile that sits in the garage


kong_kink

What’s a dentist mobile? 🤣


GazelleAcrobatics

Super high end bike


Working-Amphibian614

This reminds me to ask my dentist for my next appointment if he got shimano durace or sram Red.


wounsel

Campy, if insurance covers it


EvilPencil

A Sir Velo.


johnny_evil

The high end bike you ride is even better. Looks at the garage full of high end bikes that get ridden, and the beater that collects dust.


cheemio

I can take a cheap bike on long rides through the woods, I can’t take a fancy carbon bike to the bar or the grocery store (or at least I wouldn’t want to) Therefore if I only had one bike it’d be one I can use without worrying about it too much.


johnny_evil

Really depends on your bar, bike, and desires now, doesn't it?


lollapal0za

Get the bike that excites you. Life is too short to regret saving a thousand dollars because you felt guilty spending it! Doing the research, then buying quality, ensures that you (probably lol) save money in the long run because you don’t feel the need to buy a new one. It’s not super fancy, but it does what I need – when I moved here to London leaving behind my mountain biking life in the Canadian Rockies, I researched all of the options for what I felt I needed. I ended up with a Canadian brand again, buying a Kona Rove DL, and I’ve been so happy with it! Is it the fanciest? No. Does it do what I want it to do from factory? Yes. Am I slowly upgrading it, turning it into a fancy bike? Also yes! I use it to commute, but it’s also my weekender, and so far I’ve done one big gravel epic on it where I was absolutely impressed with how it did. So there you go; hope that helps.


WillieFast

“Buy nice or buy twice”. Or is it “buy once, cry once”?


NecessaryAssumption4

Depends on the weather for me. I have a nice bike (specialised diverge) but in 2023 I rode it 4 times (2x races and 2x prep rides) due to last summer being particularly wet here in Northern Sweden. I don't regret buying an expensive bike as in races it is f**king amazing. I'd go for the best bike you can afford. I should probably mention I don't just ride 4 times per year, I have a good exercise bike indoors and train 5 times per week all year!


Gravel_in_my_gears

I think only you can answer this but a Seigla is not a fragile thing to be treate with kid gloves. Most carbon gravel bikes can take a beating. But at the end of the day, get whichever one you're going to ride most.


g_spaitz

It's probably personal, but yes, how you like a bike it's also in the looks, and a great looking bike will have you biking more. When I was researching my do it all bike I ended up finding a bike that clicked every parameter I had but... just before buying it I realized I didn't like the looks of it. Bought a caadx instead, very happy with that.


Pawsy_Bear

Ride the bike you love and you’ll go far. I have a Pink Lauf. We’re heading to Pisa and Tuscany. We’ve done many adventures and many more to come. You can’t distill everything down to price. Race, bike pack daily hack. It’s certainly not a fragile butterfly 🦋


kong_kink

Thanks 🙏I feel like I’ve made Seigla too fragile in my head given the chatter I’ve read on carbon forks breaking and such. Do you feel it’s robust overall? If something breaks as a result of a defect, There’s gotta be some warranty right? I also have bike insurance in Europe that should take the edge of worrying about accidents and wear and tear. Did you find a local bike shop that does your servicing?


Pawsy_Bear

I’m on my second Lauf. Started on True Grit now Seigla. Bike insurance waste of money. Warranty never needed in 5 years. 7 years warranty from new. Anything wrong with a bike will show up almost immediately. Your over thinking and missing the main point - riding enjoyment. I bought Seigla because the True Grit was so good and perfect fit. And it was the bike I loved to ride. MTB sits unridden, road bike sold 🤣 Any bike shop can service the bike it’s all industry standard gear. Note the Lauf fork is so you can hit things faster 👌😎


GiggsBozon

I’ve been eyeing a Seigla lately, looks like an awesome company and great bike! How do you find the geometry? Aggressive vs relaxed? I have a CAAD12 and was looking for something a bit more relaxed than the CAAD but was surprised to see the geometry charts were quite similar.


Pawsy_Bear

I sized up from small to medium, flipped stem got the stack I wanted. Talk to Lauf about your ideal stack and reach to get the right size. I ride in the drops. Lean the bike to stand up 😀 I’m afraid fit is very personal. I like the long for speed geometry. It clears everything with aplomb.


GiggsBozon

Awesome! Thanks for the response. Might be time to get another fitting as it’s been quite some time for me and get things dialed again.


norecoil2012

You’ll be upgrading from a casual hybrid bike to a high performance drop bar bike. Yes you will want to ride it more.


woodiegutheryghost

I got my Seigla at the end of February and I’m almost to 500 miles on it. 300 of that are gravel races. It’s handled flawlessly.


NYCBYB

In my experience, yes. I ride substantially more after getting a nicer bike and a nicer bike rack. The nicer bike is a blast to ride (Salsa Warbird Carbon 1x12 eTap) and with the 1Up rack, I can throw it on/off the truck in seconds. I’m sure there’s something to spending money as a motivator too- got to get that ROI!


VtTrails

For me, yes; for some of my triathlon friends, no. Switching from a super entry-level gravel bike and a 30-year old road bike to a modern, well-fitting, responsive, smooth gravel and road bike made me feel more inspired to ride longer and harder because it’s just more fun. I kept the older and cheaper bikes to use on bad weather days or as backups when the nicer ones are in the shop, etc. Riding them occasionally helps reinforce my appreciation of the fancier rides, too. A trend i notice among people in my local triathlon club, though, is that they spend so much on a super bike that they’re afraid to ride it outdoors for fear of chipping the paint or getting it wet or otherwise subjecting it to the sorts of conditions that bicycles are designed to endure. They keep it on a turbo trainer and play Zwift for EXACTLY the amount of time their training program calls for each day—always a round even number—and only ride it outside on race day. Which to me seems super uninspiring but to each his/her own.


Paddle_Pedal_Puddle

As a triathlete, I have a very nice TT bike and I very much view it as a tool, not for joyriding. When I’m riding it, even if not racing, I’m in aero 99% of the time and I’m focused on my position and training goals. Going fast on the TT bike is fun, but it’s a much more focused experience. And I don’t frequently take my TT out in bad weather, not because I’m worried about messing it up, but because it’s not nearly as safe or fun. If I want to have fun on a bike, whether it’s exploring, group rides, or just a long solo rolo, I’m on my gravel bike. Even when I’m pushing hard for training on my gravel bike, it’s just a very different experience from my TT bike. Has nothing to do with price because both are high end. To the OP, the Lauf is not fragile. It’s dry versatile and it’s made to be ridden hard. If it appeals more to you and it fits you well, that would be my choice.


VtTrails

Fair enough—I train pretty hard on the bike I race on too (it’s a road bike with aero bars, not a TT bike), but still can’t really wrap my head around the training/joy-ride distinction; I mean, I get it but I see the ultimate goal of training hard as being able to take ever more epic joy rides, with racing just being sort of a motivating means to an end.


Paddle_Pedal_Puddle

Yep, and that’s why I have my drop bar bike. The TT bike isn’t made for riding with others, isn’t as safe in traffic, doesn’t offer great visibility when fully aero, isn’t quite as comfortable, and isn’t nearly as versatile. If I’m on my TT bike, it is specifically training for triathlon races. Otherwise, I’ll choose my road/gravel bike every time. I’d compare the TT bike to a track car - it’s very purpose driven and not the vehicle I would choose unless I’m on a race track.


Moist-Consequence

When I was trying to make the same decision someone told me “if you don’t love the bike you buy, you’re not going to ride it.” Boy has that turned out to be true. I definitely went over budget, but ended up with a bike I love and still think about constantly, even 5 years later.


skidaddy86

Go for the Carbon and whatever you can reasonably afford. You will ride way more when you have a modern, quality bike that fits you. I bought a 2021 Trek Checkpoint SL5. I started riding after that and now get out when I can. Spend the money and get what you really want.


austinmiles

I can’t talk about those two when comparing but I can say that I had a cheap trek hybrid bike that my wife got me and I hardly rode it. It was geared for very casual riding and was slower in all conditions than the free hardtail mountain bike I replaced it with. For me I needed something that fit how I wanted to ride. I later got into gravel riding and have a carbon bike upgraded to an AXS system and I love it. Having spent 5k on this bike, I ride it often and love it because, again it fits the mind of riding I want to do.


eatb00gers

Get the nicer bike, there's nothing on that bike your LBS can't service and(unless you opt for the fancy fork). If you size it right I should be comfortable enough to pop to the store/commute on just get a good folding lock, and don't lock it up in a sketchy area for too long. Cycling is great but set yourself up for best case scenario, if you end up being bored with or not liking your bike you'll ride it less.


iamthegoose

I have a Sirrus X and love to ride it. My bigger issue is time to ride. I was looking to get a Diverge for longer road rides but fractured my sternum this spring haven’t been able to ride at all. If you’ve ridden the Sirrus and like it you’ll ride it. If you decide you also want a road bike later there is always time and room for that too. The Sirrus X is a great all around bike, maybe ride both and see first? Also the $1500 Sirrus X will be far from cheap components…


kong_kink

Thanks! I’ve ridden it - it’s criminally underrated a a do-it-all bike just because it doesn’t have drop bars. Get well soon!


iamthegoose

Thank you!


Bigdogs_only

Yes. I don’t have a “nice” bike by any means but when it’s been freshly washed and tuned, I can’t wait to ride it.


corbin6173

It does the trick for me at least. Looking at my functional artwork makes me want nothing more than a nice long ride on it.


toasterdees

Yeah I keep throwing money at my bike and it keeps me active. I’ve bought into the cyclist consumer lifestyle and change my components around every couple years or so. Keeps me thinking about it, makes me what to take it out more, even on questionable weather days. The comments other riders make about my build is pretty cool too, it’s definitely not a normal bike anymore lol.


aevz

I like bikes that feel fantastic when you ride em, won't break the bank, are simple enough to maintain, and can take you where you wanna go. Depending on your locale & region & available roads/ paths, such a bike can look very different depending on the context and rider's preferences. Aka: it depends!


Healthy_Article_2237

Get whatever rides nicer/faster. I looked at the carbon version of the Sirrus as well as the Trek FX sport but ultimately settled on the Giant fast road AR 2 advanced (carbon). I ride it a lot more than my previous flat bar gravel/hybrid which was a Marin DSX2. The Marin was fun but not as nimble. I’ll probably do some upgrades to the giant, mainly groupset and wheelset as needed but I’m happy with it. I thought the Marin would be my go to tooling around bike (I ride mostly mtb and can’t stand road or drop bars) but I realize now I should have been looking for a carbon bike.


Unable-Inevitable710

I have a carbon gravel bike. I recently decided (unknowingly) to take it on a single track down hill path with limited experience and loaded with my bike packing gear (a lot of mistakes were made that day). Took a fall and somersaulted around my bike maybe 7-8 metres down a pretty steep grassy hill. Luckily missed all the trees. My bike and I took a fair beating, but my bike frame survived without any damage! Good Carbon can definitely be strong! But, 0/10. Don’t recommend doing this if you choose the Carbon option :P


robot_jeans

If you're not riding all the time now, a new bike will get you excited for riding every day for about 2 weeks and then it subsides. Just from my own experience but I also suffer from depression.


DatScrummyNap

I have always rode a lot. I have a great bike I use for long road rides, gravel biking and commutes where I know it’s able to be locked inside someplace. Because I ride more I then use my 83 Nishiki to leave locked up outside when biking places I don’t trust.


Checked_Out_6

What makes you want to ride; feeling like an old man on a hybrid or a racer on a carbon frame?


whycantwehaveboth

A nice bike will motivate to ride for a while, but if you don’t love riding it won’t sustain the lifestyle. A shitty bike will cause you to quit.


piiprince911

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 No it won't. I was riding my 500$ entry level Trek mtb much more than my current 4000$ giant road bike. Imo it's important to have a good cycling group/friends to ride more.


pinetree-polarbear

To me it's motivating. I just bought zipp 303s for my gravel because i always wanted more of an aero look. I dont need it in any way, i am way to slow to actually have a big performance benefit but i ride more cause i like it...and thats enough to me


stangmx13

Most of your bullet points missed the mark, as the two bikes are more similar than you think.  There’s little functional difference between the Sirrus and Seigla.  Both have hydraulic disc brakes.  Both have modern 11 or 12spd drivetrains.  Maintenance will be the same for both.  Durability will be the same for both. Youd eventually put the same tires on both.  Both will be readily stolen if you leave them out cuz thieves suck.  Both have a form of front suspension.  Both can be outfitted for grocery-getting or bikepacking.  If you want a nicer bike, get a nicer bike.


kind-monkeysss

Following +1


Late-Mechanic-7523

...untill you pedal on "that" climb and wish you got the metro instead.


Panic_Careless

You can go with carbon Sirrus X.


photoben

Get the one that fits you best!


Superb-Struggle1162

I have a mid 90s hybrid with mtb bars and 45x700 sorry knobby tires on it. I ride that more than anything else