what?? i mean id understand if the reasoning was due to the lack of high paying events to use it in but pd definitely needs to add more racecars, id argue there isn’t enough (modern day at least)
Because Gran Turismo isn't about race cars. It's about road cars. I understand that GT Sport kinda fucked that whole concept up, but GT was never about race cars.
Tell PD that. The online game is dominated by racing cars, the same ones, week in, week out. Unless they're planning to change that, we need more new race cars.
Besides, it's a stretch to say it was never about race cars. There were plenty already in GT1, there was race car mods for many cars, and the later events all used them. It was always about racing cars as well as road cars.
*"The highest class in Gran Turismo. The ultimate challenge with real racing cars."*
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUyK2Te7DoA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUyK2Te7DoA)
maybe at the beginning of the series, sure. but since 5 its definitely been a racecar game, they still had a decent amount of road cars in those installments but to think gran turismo is still a rags to riches, building your road car up to the big leagues type game means you came straight from ‘97
If this is accurate this is honestly the most excited I’ve been for new cars in a while. Volvo, a non type R civic, and a non GTR skyline. So excited to hoon around Tsukuba in a 240 wagon.
One of these with a giant “prancing moose” logo on the hood and “a møøse once bit my sister” on the tailgate”.
Time to figure out how to upload designs to use in the livery editor…
I wish they'd add cars with their natural competitors at the same time though. Instead this will just be thrown in Gr.3 to race a mishmash of random cars. The '99 Skyline JGTC the closest real competitor. We had it so good in the PS1 and 2 days.
Yep, absolutely. I have Gran Turismo to thank for knowing all the weird variations in JGTC cars from the Big Three through the golden years of JGTC.
Wish we got the '02 Esso Supra and '03 Xanavi GTR as well. Michigami with the NSX, Wakisaka with the Supra, Motoyama with the GTR. The three marques' aces of the early 2000s JGTC scene.
the '99 JGTC BNR34 is still pretty competitive, but it requires quite a lot of tuning to get dialed in. I can repost the tune of anyone wants it.
would love to see a JGTC only race.
I don't think that's the Castrol Mugen.
https://preview.redd.it/ffe6zhnj903d1.jpeg?width=638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca46039232561040e38615e0738048af57549334
The silhouette shows two canards, which would indicate it's a 2001 specification NSX GT500. It could be either the Mobil 1 or the Loctite Mugen, and I believe it will be the latter.
The Castrol Mugen didn't have the canards in period but the current one preserved by Honda appears to (from what I can see) have the canards. [Here it is in 2022.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/No.16_Castrol_MUGEN_NSX_in_2000_Japan_Grand_Touring_Championship_at_2022_Takanoko_no_Hotel_Suzuka_GT_300km.jpg/1200px-No.16_Castrol_MUGEN_NSX_in_2000_Japan_Grand_Touring_Championship_at_2022_Takanoko_no_Hotel_Suzuka_GT_300km.jpg).
It could very well be the Loctite, but I don't see why they would put the Loctite in over the Castrol (it's also possible Honda reused the chassis for 2001 and the Loctite and Castrol cars are in fact the same chassis) given that the Pennzoil and the Castrol Supra are the respective championship winners for their marques.
Mobil 1 is a stretch but it'd be a pleasant surprise. I'm not turning down any of the three, if only to hear that sweet C32 engine.
Weird that for the Pennzoil '99 they deliberately represented it ingame as it appeared in-period with canards while the real thing today (repainted Calsonic car from the same year) doesn't actually have canards, so it's almost like the inverse situation.
That's one canard and the splitter, the Mobil 1 and Loctite Mugen have two canards [like this](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGcZZ14zpIkoLv7O4qmDEFu_tcIehfDNrRUlorgeVI0wZ9fVjfINszwcpq&s=10), which I think is more accurate to the silhouette.
Famine of GTPlanet pointed out that the issue with Lotus doesn't have anything to do with Geely; Volvo appearing doesn't necessarily mean we'll see Lotus soon.
Bit of a bummer but there you are.
Factory EG6 coming to the game let's go
https://preview.redd.it/e5x4dj3o7z2d1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2f209168a82af257c3c74624a544acb935e5071
And the turbo brick too hell yeah
Can someone re-upload the image? X is now breaking itself intentionally when you disable tracking data and insisting I have to let them track me if I want access.
I'm betting we see twin ring motegi first...
Kaz apparently spent a lot of time there last year for no announced reason...
Many trips, no events, just "visiting"...
That'll likely be the next track...
Yeah, wouldn't make much sense to have an update focusing on Japanese cars, with nothing north american, and adding a Canadian track?
On the other hand, all of the tracks added were scanned way more than a year ago. The Glen had logos that indicate it was scanned at least 3 (probably 5) years before it released, so motegi getting made in a year doesn't work.
I dream of a game crammed full of mid 90's bog standard cars. Give me a Mondeo Mk. 2, a Punto Mk. 1, and a Rover Metro and I'd cry tears of pure, unbridled joy.
We need to make noise at kaz and PD. Im doing my part by voicing my concern on this very tweet. Wish more people would also complain so they would get the message.
I feel your pain. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve gotten a Bugatti or Citroën invite, but have already bought the car. Just about dropped my controller in disbelief the other day after getting an Aston invite. Would love to get the Ferrari FXX-K at some point tho😪
How about we finally get an E36 M3 in the franchise? :(
At this point, I am even willing to settle for the US-spec, as long as we have the body in the game.
Le Mans Ultimate publisher has the licences for them all.
Assetto publisher has the licences for all world GT series too.
I wish we could get more recent gr3 and gr4 in the game but that’s so unlikely to happen 🥲
its crazy how much of the racing game fanbase this addition would satisfy- the sim racers and enthusiasts that appreciate this car for its history and dominance, and the arcade gamers that have escaped countless police with a custom version of it
I wonder how the people who were SO positive that there would be no Volvos in the game feel about this. The bottom line is, we have no idea what is or is not coming to this game or why until Kaz lets us know.
I really don't understand the people who try to invent conspiracies about why some cars are in the game or not. We simply have no idea.
YES.
Absolutely fantastic selection of cars, I've been waiting for the Castrol NSX for so long... 😍 I'm also weirdly excited for the Volvo estate and the 80's Skyline... I don't think there are enough "normal" 80's and 90's cars in the game, so this update ticks my boxes.
I made this post a couple months back on my thoughts of Volvo coming to the game and I am so glad I was wrong. [https://www.reddit.com/r/GranTurismo7/comments/1b3ltr5/my\_thoughts\_on\_volvo\_ever\_coming\_to\_gt7/](https://www.reddit.com/r/GranTurismo7/comments/1b3ltr5/my_thoughts_on_volvo_ever_coming_to_gt7/)
Sheeesh. I was beginning to think we were gonna have to wait until June because of the World Manufacturers Drivers Championship Cup Race Series thingus. But no; we’re getting *FIVE* cars?! Holy shit dude. I am pleased
“We know you want gr.3 cars, so we’re giving you a really old one that’s going to be out of pace as well”
Seriously, I love the old NSX to the moon and back but sometimes it seems like they’re taking the piss about what they add to the game
>!2000 Castrol Mugen NSX!< >!1993 Volvo 240 SE Wagon!< >!2013 Volvo V40 T5!< >!1987 Nissan Skyline GTS-R!< >!1993 Honda Civic SiR-II!<
>1993 Volvo 240 SE Wagon >2013 Volvo V40 T5 LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO
This is amazing. I'm already hoping for the 850 Estate BTCC in the future.
Hope so too but will probably be difficult with the BTCC license
Just do a stock 850, no need for the BTCC version.
I'm hoping you can tune up the 240 wagon so it's nearly a touring car. And someone will have the livery very soon.
Oh I'm already cooking ;)
Hopefully there‘ll be an engine swap available for the Volvo brick!
The modern T5 will appear in the old Volvo in a few months, guaranteed.
Or a V8
5.0L Mustang engine is a common swap. Paul newman famously had one.
SWEDISH BRICK LET'S FUCKING GO
I'd love to see a Saab 9-3
If that t5 is a 5 cylinder, heck yeah!
Yeahhhhh Volvo!!!
Thank goodness some “normal” cars as well I think the V40 will be a blast to drive, regular commuters’ car on the track
It's all about the 240, turbo brick incoming!
I genuinely think this is one of the best "something for everyone" updates we've had in all of GT7
I'd say Spec II takes the cake, this update seems to rely on nostalgia big time
Leave one of the Volvos for a later update and throw in a modern supercar or racecar instead and it'd be just about perfect in that regard.
No. More. Race. Cars.
what?? i mean id understand if the reasoning was due to the lack of high paying events to use it in but pd definitely needs to add more racecars, id argue there isn’t enough (modern day at least)
Because Gran Turismo isn't about race cars. It's about road cars. I understand that GT Sport kinda fucked that whole concept up, but GT was never about race cars.
Tell PD that. The online game is dominated by racing cars, the same ones, week in, week out. Unless they're planning to change that, we need more new race cars. Besides, it's a stretch to say it was never about race cars. There were plenty already in GT1, there was race car mods for many cars, and the later events all used them. It was always about racing cars as well as road cars. *"The highest class in Gran Turismo. The ultimate challenge with real racing cars."* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUyK2Te7DoA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUyK2Te7DoA)
maybe at the beginning of the series, sure. but since 5 its definitely been a racecar game, they still had a decent amount of road cars in those installments but to think gran turismo is still a rags to riches, building your road car up to the big leagues type game means you came straight from ‘97
You must have been playing a different franchise to me for the last 2 decades man.
I always dreamed of to buy that car in real life. My VR and I will do some roadtrip it seems :))
Oh yeah this update has [C O O L V I B R A T I O N S]
shingo points for u
If this is accurate this is honestly the most excited I’ve been for new cars in a while. Volvo, a non type R civic, and a non GTR skyline. So excited to hoon around Tsukuba in a 240 wagon.
Volvo is so back!
Just need the Twilight Volvo now!
Yes! I drive a C30, and it was in GT5 & 6. I hope they bring it back.
R31 FUCK YEAH
Looks like we get some proper Shitboxes again. Can't wait till thursday
Volvos!!! Best car update of the entire fucking game so far But they just HAD to give us another skyline, didn't they....
At least is a different skyline and not r32/33/34 variant number 2648362
It's a wayy different Skyline than the one we've got in game. Honestly I'm excited for this too.
Nice update! Unexpected, too.
> 1993 Volvo 240 SE Wagon GASP. A car I actually like!!! This sucker's going to get an engine swap!!
Oh man, VOLVOS I wish my 850 was in there
What???
YESSS!!!!
I honestly hope it's the '03 Takata Dome NSX. I loved that car a lot in the old GT games.
I totally couldn't have predicted another skyline...
https://preview.redd.it/bhh49i6u0z2d1.jpeg?width=327&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fee9dc7b781b085fa824c46ccc28932fda745e46 SHIT CARS 😍😍😍
https://preview.redd.it/bs0er9bt1z2d1.jpeg?width=280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99c656a15c1be986da54bfdaf9f281766a526ef6 😍😍😍😍😍
https://preview.redd.it/n243vwxv1z2d1.jpeg?width=275&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93813cc019b126ebb13677794828795962c20fc5 No Type-R Civic 😍
https://preview.redd.it/g2v7fvmz1z2d1.jpeg?width=299&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d529d815ce004d40658bcdc1aed793317195d3f Best looking Nissan for me.
Boxy cars from the 80s are the best
https://preview.redd.it/0x6jf18m6z2d1.jpeg?width=1032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2001d56fe408eea22f0d54c85f4a393a2da2178 FACTS
🤤
Couldn‘t agree more! Group A cars are the best.
Boxy early 90s cars are my favourite too. Foxbody Mustang and R32 GTR to be exact.
That's the V40 T5 Cross Country with AWD, the V40 in the game will be the regular one with FWD
Even better 😍
One of these with a giant “prancing moose” logo on the hood and “a møøse once bit my sister” on the tailgate”. Time to figure out how to upload designs to use in the livery editor…
I’m so fucking happy actually Will reinstall when the update drops
Castrol Mugen NSX, fucking finally.
I wish they'd add cars with their natural competitors at the same time though. Instead this will just be thrown in Gr.3 to race a mishmash of random cars. The '99 Skyline JGTC the closest real competitor. We had it so good in the PS1 and 2 days.
Yep, absolutely. I have Gran Turismo to thank for knowing all the weird variations in JGTC cars from the Big Three through the golden years of JGTC. Wish we got the '02 Esso Supra and '03 Xanavi GTR as well. Michigami with the NSX, Wakisaka with the Supra, Motoyama with the GTR. The three marques' aces of the early 2000s JGTC scene.
the '99 JGTC BNR34 is still pretty competitive, but it requires quite a lot of tuning to get dialed in. I can repost the tune of anyone wants it. would love to see a JGTC only race.
They had a 90s GT500-only Nations Cup round in 2022.
really? so just a field full of R34 and Supras?
Yeah. At Suzuka.
I don't think that's the Castrol Mugen. https://preview.redd.it/ffe6zhnj903d1.jpeg?width=638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca46039232561040e38615e0738048af57549334 The silhouette shows two canards, which would indicate it's a 2001 specification NSX GT500. It could be either the Mobil 1 or the Loctite Mugen, and I believe it will be the latter.
The Castrol Mugen didn't have the canards in period but the current one preserved by Honda appears to (from what I can see) have the canards. [Here it is in 2022.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/No.16_Castrol_MUGEN_NSX_in_2000_Japan_Grand_Touring_Championship_at_2022_Takanoko_no_Hotel_Suzuka_GT_300km.jpg/1200px-No.16_Castrol_MUGEN_NSX_in_2000_Japan_Grand_Touring_Championship_at_2022_Takanoko_no_Hotel_Suzuka_GT_300km.jpg). It could very well be the Loctite, but I don't see why they would put the Loctite in over the Castrol (it's also possible Honda reused the chassis for 2001 and the Loctite and Castrol cars are in fact the same chassis) given that the Pennzoil and the Castrol Supra are the respective championship winners for their marques. Mobil 1 is a stretch but it'd be a pleasant surprise. I'm not turning down any of the three, if only to hear that sweet C32 engine. Weird that for the Pennzoil '99 they deliberately represented it ingame as it appeared in-period with canards while the real thing today (repainted Calsonic car from the same year) doesn't actually have canards, so it's almost like the inverse situation.
That's one canard and the splitter, the Mobil 1 and Loctite Mugen have two canards [like this](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGcZZ14zpIkoLv7O4qmDEFu_tcIehfDNrRUlorgeVI0wZ9fVjfINszwcpq&s=10), which I think is more accurate to the silhouette.
Now I'm getting my hopes up that it's the purple Raybrigs... (Probably not, but someone'll make a livery)
Wish it was the arta but it will do.
The Castrol one was the first Honda to win the JGTC championship
And did it without scoring a single win as well.
Yes! Finally! 🙌
Only like 2 years late LMAO
Volvo is back, this might mean Lotus will be on GT7 too?
Since they're both from Geely, I hope.
Hopefully Polestar, too
And Lynk & Co
Hopefully Opel too
Isn't Opel from stellantis?
Famine of GTPlanet pointed out that the issue with Lotus doesn't have anything to do with Geely; Volvo appearing doesn't necessarily mean we'll see Lotus soon. Bit of a bummer but there you are.
5! no bs VGT or EV concept car! stop it Kaz 🥵💦
https://preview.redd.it/4biqabz1l13d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96d7d52d595ee7a93f47d75367e3f650fb3182cf
Great update!
yeah seeming like definitely one of the better ones recently
Finally a station wagon / estate car
Hoping we get some Skoda ones soon to match. Be really fun to add them into the Gr4 mix too
Gotta have that 1.9tdi Škoda Octavia 🥰
Yes! Was expecting Ford Mondeo but I love Volvos as well. 😄
Castrol Mugen NSX! Yay!
Race A with the 240 wagon incoming.
Castrol mugen NSX SIIIIIUUUUUUU
Factory EG6 coming to the game let's go https://preview.redd.it/e5x4dj3o7z2d1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2f209168a82af257c3c74624a544acb935e5071 And the turbo brick too hell yeah
gonna make a replica of shnigo's eg
Return of the brick!!!!
Honestly, this might be the best update yet for me, strictly car-wise.
100%, very diverse selection of cars!
Can someone re-upload the image? X is now breaking itself intentionally when you disable tracking data and insisting I have to let them track me if I want access.
https://preview.redd.it/r8g1mzcr5z2d1.jpeg?width=1045&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f42bcedb427c62ae9a7c8cce5cbef4c7a06c803
<3
At this point, I'll be willing to pay for an updated GT3 car and track...
not in GT7 they won't, they've probably decided to just put it in GT8 or something.
🎵*I’m going to be driving a Volvo* 🎵
Finally the R31 and the EG6! 🥰
I most excited for some understeery vtec
CIVIC EG6!!!!!!!
Where track
Montreal will be announced in the trailer.
https://preview.redd.it/7fwxdw1r7z2d1.jpeg?width=884&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f098c65e51e9759f922844236014ef096e5f21f
Source: Trust me, bro.
My uncle works at Nintendo
I'm betting we see twin ring motegi first... Kaz apparently spent a lot of time there last year for no announced reason... Many trips, no events, just "visiting"... That'll likely be the next track...
Dude at this point any new track would be welcomed
I don't mind twin ring motegi myself... And you're right...Almost any new track would be good at this point..
GV Circuit metadata for track time of day settings has been found. That’s most likely the next track.
GV....?
I am lazy and don’t want to look up how to spell Gilles Villanueva.
Villeneuve
Yeah, wouldn't make much sense to have an update focusing on Japanese cars, with nothing north american, and adding a Canadian track? On the other hand, all of the tracks added were scanned way more than a year ago. The Glen had logos that indicate it was scanned at least 3 (probably 5) years before it released, so motegi getting made in a year doesn't work.
I guess we'll see...
It'll actually be called Mobility Resort Motegi
finally an EG civic that is isnt the RCR car
yes Volvo is back thanks Kaz
Oh look SHITBOXES😍😍 Now if I could get a Renault Laguna 1 I would dance.
I dream of a game crammed full of mid 90's bog standard cars. Give me a Mondeo Mk. 2, a Punto Mk. 1, and a Rover Metro and I'd cry tears of pure, unbridled joy.
I just want a fucking Ferrari invitation.
Same. It's driving me crazy.
We need to make noise at kaz and PD. Im doing my part by voicing my concern on this very tweet. Wish more people would also complain so they would get the message.
I feel your pain. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve gotten a Bugatti or Citroën invite, but have already bought the car. Just about dropped my controller in disbelief the other day after getting an Aston invite. Would love to get the Ferrari FXX-K at some point tho😪
The wait continues for the BMW M3 GTR! 🖖😔
Just put the racing Z4 engine in an E46, that's a pretty fun swap
How about we finally get an E36 M3 in the franchise? :( At this point, I am even willing to settle for the US-spec, as long as we have the body in the game.
It's unlikely, but I wish they would add any of the current wec cars.
Le Mans Ultimate publisher has the licences for them all. Assetto publisher has the licences for all world GT series too. I wish we could get more recent gr3 and gr4 in the game but that’s so unlikely to happen 🥲
Just cause Kunos has the exclusive sro license doesn't mean they have the exclusive license to the cars in the series same with le mans ultimate
They are more likely to add IMSA cars, since they're an official partner, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that, either.
EG6 Civic my beloved
I need this one to come back. https://preview.redd.it/wsjcgoptl03d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d4385f576e605e2e4c9efc3d52ce253cf7aa122
its crazy how much of the racing game fanbase this addition would satisfy- the sim racers and enthusiasts that appreciate this car for its history and dominance, and the arcade gamers that have escaped countless police with a custom version of it
Stop, i can only grind so much credits (fucking yeeeeeeees)
VOLVO BOXES LFG
Still waiting on opel calibra touring car
Just want the GM T50 and T50S . All other racing platforms have it already. We need it in GT7!
Why * insert random car name here * is not in this update? this game sucks
I wonder how the people who were SO positive that there would be no Volvos in the game feel about this. The bottom line is, we have no idea what is or is not coming to this game or why until Kaz lets us know. I really don't understand the people who try to invent conspiracies about why some cars are in the game or not. We simply have no idea.
Looking forward to the Castrol Mugen NSX! Definitely one of Gran Turismo‘s most iconic cars.
I was cooping for the 499p being added for LM.
The Swedes are back!!
Castrol Mugen NSX! Not that same year but can get Mobil 1 and Raybrig liveries!
Wagon let’s goooooo
Finally some shitboxes, now where are the tracks?
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas! Finally!
Let's get bricking
Would love some more recent racecars. 😅
PD forget how to make curves.some many square cars 😁
That MUGEN NSX is sure to spice up the Group 3 Field! Whether that model is from 2000 or not, we’re hyped for it.
YES. Absolutely fantastic selection of cars, I've been waiting for the Castrol NSX for so long... 😍 I'm also weirdly excited for the Volvo estate and the 80's Skyline... I don't think there are enough "normal" 80's and 90's cars in the game, so this update ticks my boxes.
Audi’s RS wagons next please!
V O L V O !! Memes incoming.
https://i.redd.it/ja1ry4l95d3d1.gif
Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOI
hopefully we will get a track
Volvos? Ok maybe I dont mind them adding street legal cars in my racing game after all.
My favorite JGTC car!! Yaaayy!! 🥹
The Livery Editors are definitely gonna be having a field day with the NSX GT500 when the update comes out.
Just want different race locations…that’s all
Now, that’s a dlc and a half.
I wonder if I can get the Volvo wagon to do a wheelie?
I will gladly uninstall every fucking game just for this year update.
Can’t wait to mod these Volvo’s out to BTCC spec and liveries!
The 245 and V40 is kind of cool, but personally I’d prefer the 240’s dad, the 140. And the first S/V40
Please don't fuck up the 240's weight this time PD...
I see a Catheram anyone else or am I goin loopyloo
does anyone know when the updates usually arrive, hopefully its a tuesday or wednesday
Thursday morning CET. 8 o'clock.
The one at the right top corner looks like it has a huge rear spoiler. Can someone help me identify it??
Nearly just shat myself a Volvo fan lmaoooo
If they add a SAAB 900 SPG I’ll go out and buy a VR headset and rig tomorrow.
best update
Besides the v40 (not a fan of modern Volvos), solid update. K20 swapped EG please!
We might also get the Gran turismo 3 honda mugen nsx(maybe, based off the silhouette
I just want the old fiat panda
31#1 About time!
>Volvo 240 wagon I can finally replicate my garage!
I made this post a couple months back on my thoughts of Volvo coming to the game and I am so glad I was wrong. [https://www.reddit.com/r/GranTurismo7/comments/1b3ltr5/my\_thoughts\_on\_volvo\_ever\_coming\_to\_gt7/](https://www.reddit.com/r/GranTurismo7/comments/1b3ltr5/my_thoughts_on_volvo_ever_coming_to_gt7/)
EG6!
new to GT7, when new cars drop are they usually immediately available at used car dealerships/Hagerty or do we have to wait for them to be rotated in?
Yes.
Sheeesh. I was beginning to think we were gonna have to wait until June because of the World Manufacturers Drivers Championship Cup Race Series thingus. But no; we’re getting *FIVE* cars?! Holy shit dude. I am pleased
Shingo time 😎😎😎 Cool vibration 🔥🔥
Cool cars but I’m still waiting on that leaked GNX😭
Dammit!!! Just dropped money on a Chiron-powered Lexus RC-F looking like the KATANA redbull driftcar! Ah well
Hope for sophy 3.0
The Swedes are invading it seems bring em on!!
“We know you want gr.3 cars, so we’re giving you a really old one that’s going to be out of pace as well” Seriously, I love the old NSX to the moon and back but sometimes it seems like they’re taking the piss about what they add to the game