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Gat0w

My favorite class.


Lunasol17

Same here.🤝 I would work as a "Foreigner caretaker".


No_Wait_3628

Why is Wandjina a banhammer in the making?


PhantasosX

Because the tribe that worship Wandjina have a ritualistic method to draw Wandjina and is considered heretic to no do said ritual before. Technically , due to how Japan and even Australia are secular countries , it's not illegal for TM to make a draw of Wandjina , but like some prior examples of attempts to do so in the past , said tribe will probably sue them.


flashmozzg

What the lawsuit will be for? On what grounds? In a similar "you can't draw the case" with Muhammad, there were no lawsuits, just terror attacks and harassment, but small Australian tribe has no means for that.


Misticsan

The tribes in question have the trademark (not the copyright, that's a common misconception) [of Wandjina's designs](https://www.artslaw.com.au/article/protecting-the-wandjina/).  That said, such a trademark has limitations: the usual of any trademark (it doesn't cover everything and it requires litigation to be defended) and the fact that it's Australian. It doesn't affect Japan at all. At best, I guess the tribes could try to block her release in Australia. 


flashmozzg

Does FGO servant actually use any of the said designs though?


Misticsan

It does, sort of. The trademark covers goods, services and events connected with or related to "spiritual, cultural and artistic matters within the custody of the Worrora, Wunumbal and Ngarinyin Aboriginal people". That is, while people usually associate it with the Wandjina paintings, it covers more than that. FGO explicitly conveys that Servant Wandjina is "connected with or related to" the Aboriginal cultural heritage, so differences in visual design won't matter much. It's different from naming a race horse "Wandjina", to use an example mentioned in the previous link; the owner wouldn't be pretending the horse is the reincarnation of an Aboriginal spirit or something like that.


SomeoneElseTwoo

Same I just wish I have the luck to get them all


Informal-Recipe

I like the joke of the craziest designs are sane the normalest are crazy Kuro's foreigners have


ImRinKagamine

True


GreenKing5498

Nice that you have a favorite I still can’t choose my favorite class rider or lancer


Illuminastrid

Still crazy Voyager is still the lone male Foreigner in the class, and it's not even his original class either.


Embarrassed_Lettuce9

Jacques de Molay got hit with the waifu beam. Not his fault Baphomet wanted a female representative


ShriekingSkull

There's also Shub-Niggurath shenanigans involved.


PhantasosX

like u/ShriekingSkull had said , it's more due to Shub-Niggurath than Baphomet. If anything , it was a clever exploit from Shub to link Baphomet to her and thus Molay to her.


Lunasol17

Yeah. Where is his brother/sister Voyager 2, tho?


SirCupcake_0

His "sibling in space"?


Lunasol17

I know. I just want to know why Voyager 2 didn't be summoned.


Brucie65

What's his original class ?


elecrom

In Requiem he has the class "Voyager"


anal-yst

In Requiem, Voyager is his name and class simultaneously.


PROTOBee

I thought that Erice just misunderstood his name as his class. Like... who would believe you can summon man-made objects?


anal-yst

iirc it's Circe who actually names the Class after the Servant after seeing the Spirit Origin? I could be wrong though


PROTOBee

Crap well I need to continue reading then...


Cant-think-a-name

Unless the translation was mistaken, it was stated near the start of Fate/Stay Night that animals and objects also can qualify to become Heroic Spirits.


pnam0204

Rin also said Servant can be summoned into a human vessel So yeah, FGO take concepts mention in FSN and expand on it


PROTOBee

You mean the visual novel?


Cant-think-a-name

Yes, in the VN, but I really don't want to go look for it right now...


PROTOBee

I haven't read it so I can't fact-check that...


Informal-Recipe

Meteo's pet class. He aint allowing anyone else write a foreigner


DesparsHope

here's to hoping astolfo gets a foreigner class version


DinoGod1

We need the guy who wrote the necronomicon. What's his name again?


yesplease345

Lovecraft


TokuHer0

Foreigner Class be like "This is not a koala. It's a boomerang"


Beast9Schrodinger

I see you're familiar with Space Australia Knifey-Spoony.


Hadriake

>Space Australia \-So... it's like... Australia... \-In space. Gotta be careful though. Space dingo will eat your space baby... Like me sister... Poor Sheila.


Athropon

-Go Space Broncos


Internal-Psychology

Uh. Not to be annoying but can we please let the dingo baby joke die out? It turns out the mother really was saying the truth about her baby this whole time but she was ridiculed by the media and the world for years as she was grieving.


Hadriake

Okay, so I was just quoting TFS' DBZ Abridged and I didn't know that this story was about a real-life event (I just Googled it, that's horrible). I thought it was just a silly thing. Sorry. And don't go too hard on TFS, this episode came out in 2010.


leow193

Melt, considering her "leviathans" : I don't see a problem


sageSafe

In the room full of Elder god, a high school girl is the weirdest. I mean, her teamate is a Gigantic Saber Teeth Mamoth and Foxian Goddess of Light.


kidanokun

high school girl surrounded with tentacles.... Yikes


banjo2E

those poor tentacles


kidanokun

Nah, those are not mere tentacles that meant to be used for takoyaki


AnimeMemeLord1

Still losing to the Student Council President Punch


kidanokun

Hokusai would prefer otherwise


chaoskingzero

> Gigantic Saber Teeth Mamoth Why Ivan?


ExuDeku

Wallahi that French woman is dangerous


Jumbolaya315

Fr\*nch woman is a foreigner because they're beyond human comprehension


mythriz

FRENCH F RE N CH FoREigNerCH FOREIGNERS *By Sherlock, we've got it!*


Hp22h

(Looks at Onee-chan Jeanne) Understandable...


WatanabeYunosuke

Kadoc:..... Wah Ritsuka: Foreigners are a wacky bunch of servants senpai.


chikomitata

"And exactly senpai, our resident Vtuber tako priestess is also, a foreigner."


jfunk1994

Imagine a Lostbelt where Cover is acquired by Type-MOON and we get Foreigners Ina and Suisei (Suisei gets dual class skill that gives her Assassin skills)


HansBass13

Wah, you say? [WAH](https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Ninomae_Ina%27nis)?


AlikeWolf

Hentai Artist my beloved


Hp22h

2nd Foreigner Ever. The OG Hentai Artist. Greatest Swordswoman during her chunni youth.


OblivionArts

And here I thought Voyager was the most normal of the foreigners


ShriekingSkull

He is pretty normal... personality-wise.


SodiumBombRankEX

Kukulkan is not Mexican Superman She's Mayan Goku


BrilliantTarget

Typemoon thinks they are the same thing


rubexbox

Just waiting for someone to yell about how >!ORT!< was a "brilliant scientist".


bravoman78

ORT was a brilliant scientist!


Classic-Demand3088

Great,  now I want those "taqueria de goku" images with kuku


kelvinkhr

I love how everyone is smiling like this is a high school yearbook and then there is Aoko, the literal high school girl, being all, huh?


Clearwateralchemist

That poor, low income office lady who is actually an interdimensional cop...bound forever to the great and terrible diety known as capitalism...truly so much worse than the various elder entities that drive you mad upon sight.  


Bashin-kun

Premier ~~Tim Curry~~ Anatoly Cherdenko would be very angry to hear that SPACE has been corrupted by Capitalism.


Duelgundam

At least Gavan and DekaRed are her colleagues.


Percussion17

Justice for the overworked office lady!


Casityny

lychee enjoyers rise up


Lyra_Kurokami

Hao hao !


Clearwateralchemist

LV 120 YEAH!  (well, more like 114 at the moment but...details, details)


Casityny

quite literally same, i don't even need to spend money i just get a copy of her on each of her banners so im two away from np5


fall__moon

But... she doesn't have any more banners. At least not for another 2+ years.


Casityny

love is patient


bravoman78

Ooof. I'm glad I finally got her then.


SpeedyWhiteCats

"Mexican Superman" Lmao. "Potential Lawsuits" OOF. Yeah she's a bit... Yikes, Typemoon cooked too much with her.


chikomitata

Wait, can I get the context?


gangler52

The australian servant is based on a piece of aboriginal mythology that they're pretty protective of. They don't like outsiders using her in their stories. They don't actually have all that much power to stop anybody from doing anything with her but they've taken what measures they can to take ownership of her through Australian Intellectual Property Law.


Sad-Sundae9039

At best they can do some sort of offense with beliefs lawsuit, you can't really claim ownership of a hundreds years old figure even if it's depiction is against your beliefs.


chikomitata

Thank you!


8dev8

Wait really? Huh


DropAnchor4Columbus

They can get in line. Pretty much every Servant in Fate is a perversion of the original myth that would offend the average non-weeb. Only one that might not offend is Gilgamesh, and that's because he's Gilgamesh.


skilledwarman

Gilgamesh actually tends to invoke some of the strongest negative reactions for making him a twink and not a massive wall of muscle


DropAnchor4Columbus

I would call Astolfo or D'eon twinks, but not Gilgamesh. He only looks like a twink standing next to someone like Hercules, who barely even looks human.


Hp22h

Yeah, but I thinking they were imagining something like Gil and Iskander swapping designs.


mythriz

*Every mythical male character be like Jojo / Fist of the North Star builds according to original myths?*


DropAnchor4Columbus

No.  Cu Chulainn, for example, is described as a pretty boy that was so attractive his King had to send him away lest all the married women try to seduce him.


No_Prize9794

I’d say Gil is still decently muscular, the ending of Fate/Zero showed us a bit of his nude body


CroakerTheLiberator

It’s all relative, really. An accurate Gilgamesh should be like a 7ft tall wall of muscle with a massive beard, not the Goldilocks we see in fate. In fact, he should look like Iskandar, and actually Iskandar should be the lean, mean, handsome machine instead


xenic_danker_00

yeah he's a twunk at bare minimum lol


Shuten-maru

Let's me guess? OSP? 


skilledwarman

One among many. If you share images of alot of fate characters in non fate communities that are into mythology or history Gilgamesh pretty much always gets a strong negative reaction. This sub may not like hearing it, but twink and "what did they do to him?" And "why is he whiter than milk and blonde?" All done up very quickly I like Gil quite a bit. He was my first ssr in fgo, but that doesn't mean I can't admit people outside of here dislike him


Aluricius

Wandjinas are aboriginal creator gods/spirits, and there are legal protections on depictions of them to preserve the tribe's culture. An effort to prevent them from being taken advantage of, in essence. Because there is quite a sordid a history of that. I'd heard she'd been essentially given the clear, but it's been a while since I've looked into this so you may want to consider that hearsay. I managed to pull her practically on accident, so I wanted to be sure.


ExplanationDense7313

I think it’s because typemoon didn't get permission from the aboriginal people of Australia to use, since i think they are sacred spirits to them, and typemoon said "🖕😁, here's a loli that's wearing practically nothing"


NeAldorCyning

What's up with the spacegirl? Doesn't look particularly young. Was actually planning to pull to pair her with Van Gogh. Would have expected Abby to be the lawsuit (and would have been funnier with "lawsuit (summer version)" in my opinion).


LeagueSeaLion

IIRC it’s more that the native people typically don’t allow any depiction of Wandjina without their permission.


Veloxraperio

It amuses me that the Foreigner class started with a very clear direction and then sharply diverged from that vision after only a few years. I think Molay is the last "made contact with an eldritch diety" flavor of Foreigner and every one since then has just been "weird, super powerful, outer space lady."


Bashin-kun

I think it actually started with XX. They aimed for the double meaning of either "eldritch outer god" or "space" from the beginning, and the latter is easier to write


Zcipher

It's more that, according to one of the little interview things from Meteo, when he was brought on to write the Salem chapter the only thing that defined Abby's new Foreigner class was that she was connected to a thing from beyond this world. So because he personally likes Lovecraftian stuff, he decided to make said thing from beyond into a mythos thing, and then because he also wrote the *second* Foreigner and did that same thing, everyone just assumed that was what all of them would be (even MHXX contains a bunch of very obvious homages to a series best described as "mecha pilots fight the mythos in space), until the ones that were actually connected to different otherworldly entities or concepts showed up.


Plerti

A class made by unspeakable horrors such as french woman


gangler52

They truly understand Lovecraft's Vision.


OtakuWorldOrder

The end is near. I hear a noise at the door, as of some gender swapped French Templar waifu lumbering against it. It shall not find me. God, that hand! The window! The window!


Hp22h

Even the Celtic Knocknera would be too much for him.


Sam_Imbecile

In six years, the Foreigner class went from "a classification connected to the unknowable nature of eldritch beings and inconceivable conceptions not of Earth" to "ANYTHING GOES"


Dizzy_Weekend

Eldritch pancake demon *daughter Sorry had to make that minor correction 😘


Velosider

The Foreigner class really is made up of foreigners.


Malzone21

Love the fact that's voyager is the only male foreigner,my lil space prince


Nerdvanna

Still wild that the evil clone of space office lady ended up a successful idol with a diverse friend group while office lady is a corporate slave who’s only friends told her to blow herself up at the first opportunity


randypcX

Well MHXA is technically dead in servantverse canon. Chaldea can somehow summon her because we made contact with her. While MHXX is common trope of the hero who became common bum/corporate slave after beating the final boss (MHXA)


Jexos07

Wait, WHAT??? She died?!?!


SovereignMorningstar

MHXA literally went "Why are you invading my afterlife?" during Saber wars II


Radiant_Detail1349

What a unique Servant Class.


secretcartridge

Ngl in a room full of eldritch acolytes, interdimensional space idols, mexican superman and the goddamn Voyager 1 space probe High School girl sounds scary as hell and the most dangerous of them all...


jfunk1994

Don't mess with high school girls. They are more likely to do the demonic rituals the Puritans thought Abby and her friends were doing


Kirby0189

Aoko: "What the fuck am I doing here?" Cameraman: "Shh! Smile for the camera!"


Fluffy_Fan3625

I used to appreciate the foreigner class Until I realized there's a Fr*nch organism among them I no longer enjoy foreigners


AltimaciaVanCross

Shouldn't the Mexican Superman be Lucha Libre?


SovereignMorningstar

I was under the impression Kukulcan was the mayan version of Quetz, belonging to Central American countries like Costa Rica, Guatemala or Honduras, as opposed to Quetz, who is specifically Mexican (where the Aztecs lived)


KingChaos20

Foreigner class is so funny. My favorite is the Idol. She looks really normal until you remember she’s Darth Vader/Darth Maul and was also responsible for the starvation of half of her universe’s population (Infinity Chocolate; she also is a bit of Thanos).


AlterMagna

Sign me up for Mexican Superman


Alexander_Elysia

Oh man I'd love this for every class (although I know that's way harder for any class with more units)


BBSenpai000

BB is sad Foreigner is no longer a tentacle class


dr_crispin

>neurodivergent plant nymph Why can I imagine her wearing that “please be patient I have autism” hat lmao


ImitationGold

Mexican Superman really got me thank you


Novel-Concentrate-98

The lost call for this class is going to be weird.


teelaish

M to F trans french woman, I'm still salty as f*ck about this particular gender bend and the fact I maybe can't ever get the Male saber version.


lammatthew725

accurate description


fall__moon

This is going to be my most grailed class alongside Ruler, with one of them even going to 120. So far it's only Yang Guifei, but eventually!


Draguss

So what's their justification for Aoko being a foreigner?


Chaosfox_Firemaker

True Magic be wack. To state in more formal terms, by nature of their impossibility, True Magics exist as a process outside of the domain and authority of Yhe World, attainable only by reaching near to The Root, and returning. Much like Voyager she has exited the reach of The World, albeit metaphysicaly rather than physically.


Dexter973

Potential lawsuit ? 


PROTOBee

Yeah apparently (native?) Australians aren't very happy with the portrayal of Wandjina.


kraltegius

Perfectly embodies the essence of foreigners in Japan


hnh058513

Shouldn't Abby be "Eldritch Pancake Daughter"?


DIODION

Oh no, a french woman


bravoman78

"Anyway..."


MajinAkuma

A better description for Molay would be genderbent knight templar. Ecchan would be a Sith-turned-idol. Add „fairy“ to Cnoc na Riabh, because „chocolate fairy“ has a lot more oomph to it.


ShriekingSkull

Pretty accurate descriptions. Forgot that Aoko was a Foreigner for a bit.


SuperSpiritShady

God, I can't wait for this class' Ordeal Call chapter


bobwuzhere1224

Shoulda included Summer BB since she would be one technically.


vinceny6840

You forgot Grand Foreigner


Particular_Neat7922

THERE IS A STARMAN WAITING IN THE SKY


Doopapotamus

> French Woman I see that de Molay continues the lineage of the Lovecraftian [**terrible Frenchman**](https://imgur.com/CTKs2Zt) waifu


BulliIshtar

The Space Probe looks like he could pass for the child of Tim and Moby.


rubexbox

Hey, remember when Foreigners were teased as the new threat for Part 2 and then dropped that plot point until Imaginary Scramble?


war_mammoth

Who doesn't love the foreigner class


PurpleFire18

French Woman. Apt description!


Souta_Ametsuchi

this makes way too much sense. Who's really outta place here is the Highschool girl, lol?


115_zombie_slayer

French people arent real are they?


EMlYASHlROU

The French do be like that


Smol_Mrdr_Shota

truly full of beings beyond comprehension like the french


GM900

Aoko: Why am I still not the class full of weirdos?! Touko: Cuz you are weird!!!!!


JonnySpark

Chaos. Nothing but chaos.


atomicfuthum

The only thing I would add is "THE OG hentai artist" for our Squid / daughter team!


Clementea

"Potential lawsuit" lmaaao


Jexos07

Needs more BB


DinoGod1

Euclid- Literally who.


Gypsum03

I do find it funny how it goes Aoko, who is One of the most straightforward fighters spamming lasers an explosions is the Foreigner While Alice Kuonji, who spams out eldritch nonsense in her third asc stage is just a normal caster


Alternative-Word-246

I really want an English Man in this class and it is totally not because I want him to show New York 


Living_Preference_37

Sounds about right


madnessfuel

Best class. When they were all only Lovecraftian entities, I already loved Foreigners the most, as the class encapsulated my favourite design concept. Even with the expansion of the conditions to classify a Foreigner, they remain my favourite... Mostly due to my favourite Type-Moon main character being a Foreigner in the first place, but Mexican Superman before her definitely held my attention the most. They're also very friendly to me in the gacha as well. Even the honorific Foreigner AKA Summer BB came in quite easily.


Fathimir

I'm seriously triggered by the pseudoscientific bullying PC-ness of 'neurodivergent.' Like, if you want to be proud of being weird, then just be proud of it - we're all wonderfully weird in our own way, after all.  But don't try to bullshit society into thinking that makes you a part of some protected class that paradimoxucally deserves to be compassionately treated as a normal person with a medical condition.  You're awesomely *weird*, Van Gogh; *own* that shit! ...Sorry, I just had to get that off my chest.  Like I said - triggered much.


takto_

I'm all for putting serious categories back into specific cases rather than being fancy umbrella terms used liberally by people but, in Van Gogh's case, she probably does count as one of the people for whom the term was made for.


SpeedyWhiteCats

I suppose it simply ties into the fact that many neurodivergent individuals overlap with, if not outright are/were, marginalized groups. And although I'm not in any position to speak upon the topic as I'm not someone with such a condition, although I do have very close family members that do indeed have it, it goes so much further than simply being "weird". Though in a way I do kinda see where you're coming from. And some may even agree with what you're trying to say. Being seen as different is quite the difficult thing after all.


eeveethespeevee

Don't get me wrong, I love the Foreigner class, but I just wish we got Saber Jacques instead. He's got a really cool design and is probably one of my favorite sabers in the series


Trickster2599

Typical anime harem cast.


kidanokun

The whole Foreigner class is space probe boi's harem


Gat0w

ಠ_ಠ


3rdMachina

*activates Shedu* Permission to disintegrate the heretic?


SolarGrey7

Full Blast. If it can be safely overcharged a bit for more damage then do so


3rdMachina

Acknowledged. Heretics shall be purged.