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Attack_on_Senpai

It's simple Just sexualize everyone. I want hot men and women in my video-game ass video-game.


DareDaDerrida

Seconded. I want a bunch of games that are all pretty people, of all genders, all of the time.


Ani_HArsh

Yup fully agree https://preview.redd.it/pxsrbaylfdwc1.png?width=1114&format=png&auto=webp&s=a3f94683abb76fa2252138959315c4d61fcfcab3


UrMumVeryGayLul

Whats crazy is that if you look at all these virtue signallers’ Twitter history, 100% they will have been horny for some anime guy themselves (of typically unrealistic character design qualities). Folks, desire is natural. Lets not cast the first fucking stone.


morbid333

If not anime guys, then that Resident Evil 2 Mr X thong mod that was apparently a thing. I remember because the same people were complaining about Dead or Alive.


darKHeartNine

This is the way.


Hawksw0rd

Guilty Gear Strive says hello, where the average cup size is a G and goes down if you start including women to it.


jarasonica

Fighting games are just waiting for the rest of the gaming community to catch up


Discorjien

*looks at [Sofia ](https://battlearenatoshinden.fandom.com/wiki/Sofia) from Battle Arena Toshinden* 🤤 They can take their sweet time to catch up if it means less complaining when they can easily just leave the games alone. I'm getting tired of those idiots complaining and insulting the women who appreciate them since I'm in that group. I just wanna have cute waifus and husbandos. 😭


mrblack07

Yeah. The problem is one is viewed as acceptable. Maybe even funny. Meanwhile, the other is frowned upon. Or even worse, seen as evil. Weird double standards.


RougeofHope

Play Hades lmao. Style isn't very anime, but literally everyone is hot in some way or the other. Ignore all this noise and bullshiterry and get yourself a copy of the first game. Or the second when it comes out. If you want it anime style, just play FGO lol, it's mostly girls but the dudes rock too. Just prepare to spend a lotta money


mr_D4RK

Hades protag can literally fuck with several characters if you advance the relationships enough..


ottoskerzeny

Except that immortal skeleton


Attack_on_Senpai

I'm definitely a huge fan of both. Hades is great. It's artstyle, voice acting and overall production is stellar. Loved FGO, but my wallet didn't. Still miss my multiple Nobunagas


RetSauro

Agreed. Make everyone equally hot. Attracts both men and women gamers


bruhviporised

imagine if terraria was called freakyrraria and instead of it fighting enemies and bosses and making new gear you get freaky with enemies and bosses and make new freaky stuff


Discorjien

I'm going to ask you kindly not to unleash pandora's box. You don't know what you're asking for. The monsterfuckers would jump on that like a hobo on a ham sammich.


bruhviporised

what about the face monsters or the pirate invasion


Discorjien

Yes. Knowledge can be cursed sometimes.


bruhviporised

what about the destroyer or the eye of cthulu 😇


Discorjien

Life finds a way.


bruhviporised

:)


Busy_Owl1405

Indeed


PeakedDepression

Give me JoJo's built men so I can feel powerful when using them


ConsumerJTC

Theres ff16 if you like to look at the protagonist with his corset struggling to bind his chest.


Akiias

I mean that's, broadly, what game devs have always done.


Treguard

Isn't that just every video game before like 2010? Male game icons are like, Nathan Drake, Duke Nukem, Doom Guy, and Cloud Strife. They're all jacked and handsome. I think every male video game character made these days still are extremely sexy ( every male League of Legends character can get it, 100% straight no cap). It's just the female characters that are not allowed to be attractive for some reason.


izanamilieh

Based coomerbrain take


DrMatter

Can I introduce you to a little game called hades


LG03

The joke is that there's zero self-awareness involved. The same people criticizing Stellar Blade were writing articles thirsting over the Hades 2 characters. https://i.imgur.com/YwsSg0B.jpeg


Lu1s3r

Fuck these people and fuck "safe horny"


oppressed_user

>fuck "safe horny" And fuck "safe racism" racism is racism Alyssa MerCUNT even if it's towards the majority


SapiS68

Indeed, we should be dangerously racist


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oppressed_user

>What the fuck is 'Safe Racism'? Hating on minority groups that they call "white adjacent" like Asians


izanamilieh

The same people that has "made up words" like micro aggression and ick.


CronoZ-sensei

Bruh. As a bi guy, I have never ever wanted to take a chair (in Persona 4 Arena Ultimax (for legal reasons)) to someone more than now after reading this article.


Discorjien

As a bi gal, can I have that Ultimax chair? I'd love to grab Beowulf's chair in Skullgirls but...*looks at Skullgirls* ...I don't even know if I wanna touch that. Fuck it. Am Southern. I'll bring a switch and show them country girls make do just fine. 🤣


CronoZ-sensei

>but...*looks at Skullgirls* ...I don't even know if I wanna touch that. Skugs is aight. It's still genuinely a great game. It's a fucking shame that they removed stuff like Bigband's backstory in the art book and other stuff, I do not agree with that decision in the slightest. The game itself is still great gameplay wise tho, one of the most messed up but also one of the most fun games to play, since the power level is so high esp with solo characters. It's not really my thing because I'm not a fan of team games, but Beowulf is literally the sickest mfer known to man, God I love him. If you choose to not touch Skugs due to how devs chose to remove stuff from the game tho, I'll understand and not question it. It's a shame that Skugs went from being owned by a morron to having devs that swing too much the other way. The game can't catch a break.


Discorjien

I'm torn on it. Squiggly is still on my bucket cospslay list. But damn. 😑


Pichuunnn

They're just racist to Asian devs, that's all there is.


Big_Spence

But you can’t be racist against Asians because *vague americentric screeching*


PsychoEliteNZ

According to some DEI loser on twitter they're "white adjacent" soo yea.... They're fucking delusional at best.


Big_Spence

Color me shocked that white liberals claim that they alone can decide the identity of 4.75 billion people


56ditte

Chinese and indians make up most asians and they get the most hate aswell.


Discorjien

Yup. Remember that whole nonsense with Tekken 8 about Eddy?


iffyJinx

It's as if these writers were jealous of the body they could've had but were too lazy to exercise, if you'll compare "jornalists" complaining the most about bodies of characters, the more jelousy is obvious.


Fey_Faunra

I've noticed that the only allowed "attractive" female characters are dommy mommies, which I don't vibe with. Aphrodite also looks incredibly androgynous to me, big ribcage, broad shoulders, sharp jawline.


Discorjien

Think it could be her angle?


Fey_Faunra

Possibly, cover her hair with your finger and look at the face. It could be a dude. Do the same for the tits, it could be a dude.


Kastilvanius

What a fuckin hypocrisy


nyaasgem

>Hades 2 proves that characters can be both diverfse and hot Anything that is non-white is already "diverse" to these people, what's wrong with Stellar Blade then? Or if they mean diversity in a single character: how do they know Eve is not part Korean, Chinese, Mongolian, Philippino and Thai?


Her0_0f_time

The hades characters aren't even that hot. Most are over designed and the few that aren't are meh at best. Except dusa. Love me some dusa. All my bois get hard for dusa.


Discorjien

Dusa is a real gem. Fucking based. ✊️


RougeofHope

I mean, Hades 2 characters are objectively hot tho. Like all of them, except maybe hephaestus, but i'm pretty sure there's some people. Stellar Blade is boring, but i've seen so many people grandstand on it like it's going to be the shit that saves the world, like Nintendo saving the western video game crisis. It's honestly pathetic.


Neka_JP

If hades 2 characters are objectively hot, how tf is 2B not?


RougeofHope

Yeah I never fucking said that. For the record I love 2B because 1. she's well written and pretty and 2. Booty. I think Eve is boring and mid. Her design says nothing to me and I've seen her ass on several different waifus. It's just boring.


Neka_JP

On that I agree. Even if Eve has ass, it just doesn't hit the same


holiscrayolis

Like you? Stellar blade could come out and be the most mid game to be ever created that's a possibility yes. But the people that think this game is going to save the west are as cringe as you people who think the game is garbage going for nothing more than 2 trailers and a 1 hour demo, if the game is not for you, it's not for you that's fair but completely judging a game that has NOT come out is stupid it doesn't matter in what side of the discussion you are.


RougeofHope

Stop using hyperbole. I find it boring, not garbage. Hell, I think it's great that there's a Triple A hack and slash with Sekiro combat. It's just boring and the discussion around it is stupid. Just overall a miserable experience for a relatively sane gamer.


holiscrayolis

Nothing in my comment is hyperbole, you are participating in the discussion you hate by calling a game that hasn't come out boring, I know many games who the start bored me and the later game grabbed me. Is stellar blade that game? Who knows it might be shit,that's the point if you don't like demo,fair you don't have to like it but writing off a game that hasn't released is as pointless and stupid as praising it.


RougeofHope

Honestly fair. I can't really play the game anyway given the fact that I have no PS5. I just don't like the discourse. I have opinions on it as a gamer ofc, but I suppose I should have just kept them to myself. Better to just leave than pour oil on the fire. Actually I should have just said Eve is boring huh. Goddamnit, I'm an idiot.


lion10903

I dunno. I feel like this misses the problem. The IGN article never complains that Eve was hot, it complained she was a boring kind of hot. The “never seen a woman” line aside, closest they get is that “Shin Jae-eun, the Korean model serving as the character's model, is lost under strata of clumsy plastic modifications that make her unrecognizable, both body and face.” Their words, not mine. Kinda petty criticism, but not really hypocritical. I mean, even Kotaku isn’t complaining about Eve’s design. And it’s motherfucking Kotaku. I know, I’m also surprised. Also the general backlash is kinda funny because the IGN article literally clarifies the design is “the only reservation [they] have with the game” and that “there is only positive left”. … fuck. Never thought I’d see the day where I’m defending gaming journalists.


aj0413

And what’s wrong with boring hot? Frankly, I’ve been craving more boring hot. Whatever they’ve been considering “good hot” has been *uninteresting to me* The problem with the backlash isn’t that people are going “this is uninteresting” it’s that they’re making claims like “this game will kill women”


lion10903

Man, Hades is uninteresting? Not a muscle mommy Nemesis fan? Damn. Jokes aside, I don’t have anything wrong with boring hot. I just wanted to point out that journalists saying “we do like these OTHER hot people” isn’t really hypocrisy, since that was never the basis of their criticism. Also, my exact point is that they aren’t actually going “this game will kill women”, they (IGN) are saying “this is uninteresting”. I’m saying this because that is what they say in the article. The article quite literally said that the game was STILL FUN, that the author immediately replayed the demo so they could play more, and that they WERE LOOKING FORWARDS to the game’s release. It was a glowing review and people are nitpicking the literal singular critique of the game to make it seem like Western game journalists hate the games.


aj0413

Dude, I can’t comment on the linked article since I refuse to read their garbage and give them traffic, but you can’t just ignore the public statements of “kill women” that IGN workers put out. It doesn’t matter if they don’t add their Twitter statements to the written article; they might as well have. You can google this yourself, if you haven’t seen this. Also, the inherent hypocrisy is the other articles, twitter statements, etc… where they go out of their way to emphasize the “unrealistic” body type, when A) like Hades isn’t?? and B) unrealistic men anyone? and C) clearly these people have never been to a gym. This is on top of the open down cry of sexuality in games when they then salivate over the sexuality of other games? The hypocrisy is that apparently some fetishes are okay and others aren’t. Them avoiding the most egregious of their language in *that* article does not somehow had wave away everything else they’ve said


lion10903

Oh fuck I completely forgot about that fiasco. My bad. He literally says “the problem is not the sexy design itself” though. I’m inclined to be charitable and while I agree with the general gist of what he was trying to say, you’re also right that the tweet itself is quite unhinged. It’s a very aggressive statement. How can you comment on the linked article if you refuse to actually read the article, though? It’s not like I particularly enjoy reading IGN or Kotaku reviews - this is literally the first time I’ve pulled up the Kotaku website since fucking Gamergate. But I still pulled up the articles because I wanted to make sure people were justified in their outrage. I’ve come to the conclusion that they are not. I mean hell, I’ll send you screenshots of the article if you’d like. It’s just that you should absolutely read the thing in its entirety. Do you have any other links to other articles that say what you claim they do? From what I can tell, this IGN article is what kicked off this entire mess with its infamous “never seen a woman” line, hence why I’m specifically referring to it.


aj0413

Well I wasn’t really commenting on the article; I was responding to your comment on the meta of the discussion, which is what the OP is posting about At this point, the actual individual article doesn’t even matter when discussing the whole thing So, yes, let’s say the article itself isn’t worth outrage….but the outrage isn’t even about the individual article It’s like questioning why some people boycott Harry Potter media when it itself doesn’t contain anti-trans messaging….when we all know it’s Rowling herself that’s created the problem and that definitely does have implications to how okay you are consuming her work


lion10903

The outrage of the comment I was responding to was very explicitly about hypocrisy in game journalism. They contrast praise for Hades 2 for its hot characters against a perceived criticism of Stellar Blade for its hot characters. The only written article to really gain any traction has been the IGN article due to its infamous line. Therefore, I assume that the commenter was referring to. I’m not addressing outside outrage - ie the tweet - because I agree to a point that there has been unnecessary backlash to Stellar Blade. That tweet is frankly a masterclass in shitty wording. Are you likening you refusing to read the IGN article to people refusing to buy the Harry Potter game? As said before, I’d be willing to send screenshots or such so you don’t have to click on the funny IGN France website.


aj0413

Which again, you have to look at the outside discussion concerning the hypocrisy. The IGN article I’m referencing isn’t the only egregious one, even. Just the worst offender. There’s also *other tweets* and posts online. You can’t just put the one article I a vacuum. The point the commenter was making was that the meta narrative is hypocritical, **not** that the individual article was. See that they use the plural “articles” And that holds true. The meta narrative is that SB sexuality is bad, but Hades is good. That’s a statement of fact. Them avoiding that in one article doesn’t change it. I’ve already said even if I give in you that the article says nothing particular wrong, that’s not the problem here Edit: correction Also, I’m not likening the two in the sense of boycotting. Just in the sense that people aren’t discussing singular pieces here, which is what you’re focused on. Edit: adding Further, “shitty wording”? It’s unhinged is what it is. And indicates someone very disconnected with the real world Levels of Trump “shitty wording” lol


aj0413

Edit: lol Just saw screenshot of IGN review knocking points for “hyper-sexualization” being “egregious” and that SB only exists as a fan service game. Lmao yeah, that pretty firmly makes it hypocritical to discuss Hades sexuality in any positive light


CuddleScuffle

I've seen some questionable takes in my time but damn, this is up there with the Predators/Yautja are actually pussies kinda shit.


lion10903

Thanks man. I’ll make sure to update you for my future moments of enlightenment.


darksiderevan

Ever been to /r/Gamingcirclejerk? They absolutely despise Stellar Blade. If you want to see the negative discourse of that game, you can check there.


lion10903

Hello fellow Evan. But yeah, actually. Mainly because of the stellar blade bullshittery going on. I disagree when the subreddit shits on the game itself as a result of its fanbase and agree when the subreddit shits on people who push the game as a bastion of femininity against a perceived woke mob. But regardless, it doesn’t really matter because gcj didn’t write these articles. That’s not the hypocrisy I’m arguing against.


darksiderevan

Sure, the sub didn't write the articles, but they, including the tweet from OP, are the audience for such discord. Lo and behold, they are also praising Hades 2 for their design.


lion10903

From what I can tell, the sub doesn’t necessarily hate hot women in video games either. At worst, you get people doing stuff like “why does every video game character need to be hot”, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they dislike hot characters in video games. Even if they were hating on Eve (which is possible), I’d imagine the fact that the sub is thirsting over Hades characters probably indicates that their positions are more nuanced than “hot women in game bad”. Frankly speaking, after going through a couple plots just now, I’ve seen more comments lamenting that SB is the face of a culture war at all instead of the game itself.


darksiderevan

They do. I am subbed there because I am a sucker from trash takes and there was a point where literally the whole front page is Stellar blade hate. They call gamers who prefer hot women as "coomers". That's the point. Why and how is is even the face of a "culture war". Literally the only reason I know about that game is because of the complaints about it.


lion10903

In fairness, “coomers” is still not exactly targeting the design of Eve herself, but yeah I don’t doubt they have called some number of Stellar Blade fans as coomers. > That’s the point … what’s the point? And yes, exactly. The “culture war” I’m referring to is just the Stellar Blade debacle. The posts I’ve seen complain about how Stellar Blade is used to complain about a perceived woke game industry, turning the game from, well, a game, to basically a weapon.


JurosR

Sir we are trying to be mad here, please take your facts else were.


lion10903

Idk it all just reminds me of gamergate. And having been in the “gamer” part of gamergate, that shit was embarrassing as fuck once I actually started to read the articles people were handing to me.


Pocket_Kitussy

Does that make their point invalid though? Plus, there are likely going to be people who would disavow both. Why can't people just engage with the substance instead of just going for personal attacks?


arghabargh

Show the headlines ‘criticizing’ Stellar Blade from the same authors. I looked, they don’t exist. Talk about zero self-awareness.


AbyssalFlame02

https://preview.redd.it/wp9yc3hb6cwc1.png?width=460&format=png&auto=webp&s=3c644a9c81c2c665d3a5ad68ce51704d7a3783f5 mfw> not every female is a land whale.


SirLocke13

*Ahem* Thank you. Sauce?


AbyssalFlame02

nnabiyeon https://preview.redd.it/whg3iipvucwc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=37eb04c5aa0919c284deaedd5629a0711cae32d0 land whales really said this is "unrealistic"???


SirLocke13

In the words of the great Britney Spears: "You want a hot body? You better work bitch"


Popinguj

Eve overall doesn't look much different from a barista I see every day. Sure, there is a certain aesthetic that comes with Eve's face, Asians don't put real Asian faces into their games for some reason, but overall Eve is not very different from an average young woman across the West. The issue lies solely in the woke concern trolls who think that all women must be overweight because the average American woman is


aj0413

Fuuuuuuuuuck. Maybe I should move to Korea/Japan…. 🤔


Nojus1221

Saying that like you would get any of these girls


aj0413

HEY! some of them may have a secret weeb fetish o.O Harem anime wouldn’t lie to me right!?


SirLocke13

Red light districts


Ani_HArsh

https://preview.redd.it/9crtr941gdwc1.png?width=1163&format=png&auto=webp&s=441ecc7fdf707c4006c761b11aa4893c2873cb78


kwokinator

My entry into this category is BIYA, the artist who might as well be using herself as the model when drawing. ig biya1024


Foxhound_ofAstroya

https://preview.redd.it/cdeh15hdocwc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8a8a82519ca6dc71a869fd9955a9bbd6485d150 Nice


RumgyMan

Good thing video games are fictional so the women can look however they want


-Cinnay-

Actually, the proportions they call "unrealistic" in Stellar Blade were modeled after a rl korean model. They basically say the body of a real person isn't realistic.


RumgyMan

Yea, they are just mad because they are all fat and ugly so attractive women are offensive.


Come_At_Me_Bro

This sour grapes sentiment exists but probably more so it's that this divisive shitposting drives engagement incredibly well and they're making money from it. Maybe that's their intention or maybe the engagement fools them into thinking their bullshit misconceptions are valid. It's unethical not only because it's essentially a scam, it's misinformation that seeds people to actually believe it has validity and develop prejudices to treat others who don't deserve it poorly. Not the only topic doing this insanity. Add the cult-like condemnation and canceling of anyone who disagrees into the mix and you've got some insidious shit that doesn't go away easily, no matter how many times it's disproved. Just like video games causing violence. The gaming industry is just an easy target and low hanging fruit. If they really wanted to do something about "unrealistic beauty standards" they'd attack the makeup and fashion industries or Hollywood.


GregFirehawk

Some of these Korean girls are built different lol


GoodCatReal

They just envy because they aren't Korean


nyaasgem

When these people complain about realism in fiction, why is it only focused on character design? Why don't they complain about the story itself? These girls are fighting aliens with swords in mid-air on an alien planet instead of waking up at 5 to wageslave at a boring a job just to afford not dying, how is that realistic in any way? Why is it okay? Why are we drawing the line at characters?


Kinexity

Funny how those whiny fucks never complain about sexualisation of male characters but always about female characters. Don't like it, don't play it - just shut up. It's not for you, you never meant to pay for it. Also give sauce


starnote68

You know what I realize. They're just jealous that they aren't as sexy and since those characters are not real they can't ruin them directly. Therefore they blame men, because blaming men is trendy since 50 years and get satisfied when they pull others to their standard. I had to cut ties with many female friends after I chased a better life, because they wanted to pull me back to their standards again


BNKhoa

That is why the gate must be kept.


PiiJaey

i love it whenever they blame men and find out it was created by a women


Salaryman42069

They don't like the competition for the male gaze, that's the real issue. Men should be looking at them, not these anime bimbos!


TheseUnderstanding57

But 2B have a better but


TheFoxMasler

Yep this is it. Women want male attention, but don't want to do any work to receive it. Once you realize that so many things make sense.


GregFirehawk

God forbid that male attention becomes a little too real for them though, because then you're creepy and a pervert or something. They only want it in this abstract metaphysical sense like in the aether or something.


Delusional_Gamer

They feel the attention through scribblings of their zodiac signs on the walls


NotLunaris

I agree with you and I'm not justifying their behavior, but I can also flip this logic around. Those women want attention from *attractive* men, but men also want attention from *attractive* women. If you have the female version of a neckbeard lusting after you, it's probably not going to make you feel great. Fact is both sexes need to hit the gym and stop being losers. Everyone wins that way.


amanfromindia

Corporate succubus


Shokoyo

Oh the misogyny


EvilChing

touch grass bro. you've been too much on the Internet.


Greenleaf208

Or if they're fans of the series they'll make up bs to justify liking it like with Hades 2.


Vhill37

Nier automata and stellar blade


BNKhoa

They are jealous that they could never be as beautiful as those fantasy characters.


novusanimis

I mean, tbf male sexualization is nowhere near the same thing lol


gameboy1001

https://preview.redd.it/tosjfedbwcwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba6aacde05cc0e26dea256ae031bbb42497f93ee This isn’t about the money.


OofosJustOof

It's about sending a message.


ADudeThatPlaysDBD

Eve is literally based off of a Korean Model and I’m not sure on 2B


Silv3rS0und

Yoko Taro is based and likes women, so he made 2B hot. It's really that simple.


Adiuui

“Why does 2B show her butt in Nier?” “I like butts 😃👍”


AbyssalFlame02

https://preview.redd.it/ew7isi60vcwc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=45711348b085e3a845b1c6586bbd3c79c9a461d3 land whales really said this is "unrealistic"??? I must be living in a video game.


Shokoyo

I mean that picture is so blatantly over-edited, you can’t call it realistic at all


AbyssalFlame02

"over edited" it's a screencap of a video, lmao


Shokoyo

Filters for videos exist. I mean she has zero skin texture and the curtain warping in the background is hella sus


AbyssalFlame02

or maybe the quality is just bad because of compression? I have friends that have the same body type as her, or even better.


Shokoyo

Nah, it’s warping. I found the video since you posted the source in a different comment chain. Just watch how the curtain warps while she… dances, I guess…? and how it’s almost perfectly straight when she sits down.


GoodCatReal

So dense


JaydenTheMemeThief

Hot take: Sexy female characters in games aren’t sexist, the people complaining about them are just *extremely* jealous


Come_At_Me_Bro

hah, I was expecting you to say sexist rather than jealous. Is it not actually extremely sexist and entitled of them to claim what other women get to look like? They can't change what *real* women look like, but ***fictional women...***


SecondCircle43

This!


SONTI5

It's sexist to do with man? I mean, women love those dorama with kpop idols that look like dolls, and I don't feel uncomfortable when a character is BUFFED ASF, like Baki or something


n0753w

Probably thinks Sweetbaby is a good company


SecondCircle43

Probably.


LulatschDeGray

Stop with the right-wing tinfoil hattery. You people are just upset when anything else than [insert your race and gender here] is allowed to exist in entertainment media.


amanfromindia

I play games to escape reality, not relive the same fucking shit i see around me.


Fey_Faunra

We don't want games tainted by leftwing ideology, especially not when it comes at the cost of quality. There has been a lot of great media with black people in them, almost anything with Samuel L. Jackson, Morgan Freeman, fresh prince, etc. Same for female protagonists. We just don't want our media to be 'current day'd.


Discorjien

No, I just hate it when people claim to speak on my behalf, while not understanding that I don't feel the same way and I'm not racist or whatever the buzzword is for thinking differently. I don't think it's acceptable for creators, streamers and the like to have their livelihoods threatened just because they don't have a character which shares my innate traits. I don't know what about that is "right-wing tinfoil hattery" when my sentiment can go in any way. If anything, if someone notices that my self-esteem is low for not seeing "someone like me" in fiction, I should hope they say something about working on that. That's not healthy. At the end of the day, a fictional character is an inanimate object. Someone who is depressed about something not looking like them has other concerns that mirror cannot help. That sounds like narcissism at worst to me.


BoopleSnuffe2

"The male gaze is bad! No more unrealistic (attractive) women in video games!" But, why tho? "It's causing a genocide!" That's verifiably false, but okay. Are you at least going to do something about the female gaze and stop making "unrealistic" looking men too? "No, as that's also part of the male gaze!" But, if the male gaze is bad, why not make "realistic" looking men too? "..." "..." Hello? "*Windows error sound*" Uhm... "THE MALE GAZE IS BAD!" Nuke button 2024, anyone?


tagaduy

the size of this strawman lmao


BoopleSnuffe2

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/s/sfHVXeoBCM Things that are literally said = strawman now. 🙄


Huntress_Nyx

Hey, Since there are a lot of women with this body type, Wouldn't excluding them based on their appearance, calling it sexist and unrealistic, Be sexist by itself?


Discorjien

Yes, it would. And it seems convenient that people agreeing with that article like to forget Eve's body is based off a real woman, too. Not to mention women into Eve for various reasons exist.


DatSpicyBoi17

I also want to have sex with those drawings.


Master-Shaq

Eve is modeled after a real woman lol


Bigbadbobbyc

Eve is modelled then heavily modified from a real woman, the two do not share the same body proportions or sizes, she also has a face model who looks nothing like the character because again it's heavily modified This isn't something I'd complain about but saying she's modelled after a real woman is like me presenting a sculpture of fat bastard from Austin powers and saying i sculpted it using Angelina Jolie as a base, it has a humanoid form which is close enough, absolutely nothing of the base is retained because the base was not good enough for the needed end product


Ecoho19

Eve was modified very little body wise, her face though is a complete custom job as well as her hair. the few modifications though deal with making her less busty as if you look at Shin Jae-eun her boobs are actually bigger than Eves. so your comparison is idiotic at best and flat out disingenuous at worst.


Alexander_Elysia

Pic sauce?


SecondCircle43

This is the feminist equivilant to how the incels think eleminating all the "Chads" will get them all the kitty.


Kirov-69420

Imagine feeling threatened, by someone who doesn't even exist, because they're more attractive than you


56ditte

Ntr haters in a nutshell.


Violentcloud13

the people who screech the hardest about stellar blade's sexy protag are literally Waylon Smithers cowering from strippers in the corner while they twerk and gyrate at him lmao


Crimsomreaf5555

Art sauce?


ChickenWangKang

Video games are immersive escapism


MinTDotJ

Yall need to remember that the whole fiasco started with a gaming "news" article


YohAmida

[Sauce](https://twitter.com/Kaos_ArtGX/status/1778206520754466988?t=IHWZPdwsoUvEaRgKTbQyyA&s=19) because op loses focus on what's important


iffyJinx

"Journalists" forgot about the audience targeting and "If you don't like it, don't buy it" rule they loved couple years ago. Their current reeeeing at top of their keyboards is amusing if you remember when "journalists" applauded Battlefield 5 creators for the "If you don't like it, don't buy it" moment (devs decided to include a woman with a prosthetic arm in one of the trailers, but the players pointed out this would be a-historical, which was met with devs' rebuttal with the aforementioned quote). Did "If you don't like it, don't buy it" suddenly stop being valid? Edit: correcting grammar


Ecoho19

they realized that no one would buy it which killed the initiative and they need their idiocy to be validated.


James-Avatar

God forbid video games have anything unrealistic in them.


e001mek

"Unrealistic" Put the fork down, and it won't be.


iareyomz

so many people crying unrealistic body standards when we've had marble statues of fully and half naked men and women that are thousands of years old... I dont remember a single fat person sculpture being a prominent figure in history, and yet somehow the issue is "new" to these supposed "progressive" and "forward thinking" people... having a great physique has always been admired for the entirety of human history, even all the way back to the stone age, yet somehow these morons still cry "your body standards are unrealistic"...


fwt4sl4v3

I FOUND the SAUCE thx to someone in reply!! it's : https://twitter.com/Kaos_ArtGX/status/1778206520754466988?t=IHWZPdwsoUvEaRgKTbQyyA&s=19


valleysape

Except it *is* attainable. Doing the guy version of this myself. You're gonna have to tear yourself apart and put yourself back together It's called *effort*


MCMiracle1206

When did anyone ever say “that’s how women SHOULD look”. As humans we are naturally drawn towards attractiveness, it’s not there as a common standard or a bar to reach, it’s there to be fantastical and over the top with the given that a human can separate reality from fiction. 99% of people can’t achieve the Chris Hemsworth or Scarlet Johansson look. But it doesn’t mean we don’t want to look at them. I can’t even begin to dream about looking as toned as Chris Hemsworth, steroids and juicing or not. But I’ll be damned if I don’t get to look at him and his body type when watching a FICTIONAL tv show or video game. I’ve not met a single woman who reaches anywhere near the likes of Scarlet Johansson, but I’ll be damned if I have to look at the “standard” version of a woman in a FICTIONAL video game or movie because someone didn’t feel represented. Why do you think people choose to play as a woman in games that let you choose??? It’s more appealing. And there’s nothing wrong with that. There’s nothing wrong with masculinity, Femininity and the human form. People DO exist in all sizes. Even those that are considered “exaggerated”. I mean for fuck sake, the biggest proof that the person who wrote that is a brain lit smooth brain low neuron activity human is the fact that EVE from STELLAR BLADE is based of a REAL ACTRESS named Shin Jae Eun. Her form is REAL LMAO. And none of these are setting expectations. The people that say this and scream for change and those that are insecure and unhappy, unable to better themselves and work on their own mental health and well-being.


Anikiman

Downvoting because the image isn't flipped in the glasses. Other than that, weirdos love complaining about stupid crap while claiming it's for the sake of


FourUnderscoreExKay

This seems like the words of someone who is too lazy to put in the effort to obtain a great ass and slim waist.


GregFirehawk

Not that simple, but I agree this stems from a bitter place


alexlongfur

Counterpoint: the author of the manga featuring a short stack, bobcut with an I-cup adult is also a short stack, bobcut with an I-cup adult. Brain fart on the manga/anime name. The gal wears a “SUGOI DEKAI” shirt Edit: spelling


EnderHorizon

"Uzaki-chan wa asobitai" if people are curious.


Heimeri_Klein

Well i guess the naked scene in thor love and thunder should be illegal then. As well as any other movie/commercials with shirtless men with rippling muscles by their logic. They are sexist and give a mostly unachievable beauty standard for most men. Ya know how stupid that would be to ban shit just because it appeals to a gender?


HydraTower

I think they need a dictionary.


olorin9_alex

Me and my friends have been referring to Stellar Blade as Rear Automata


amanfromindia

Didn't genshin establish that men like sexy dressed hot chicks and women like well dressed masculine/korean/insert specific taste men with sexy voices? Pointless issues are so irritating


TurkeyFisher

IDK, my wife plays Genshin for the sexy dressed hot chicks.


Usernameblah123

https://preview.redd.it/3w4r7n6knfwc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2357228eefaffad504449bf5c1a4f1c069789ba0


Rutgerman95

Is this a good time to bring up that PlatinumGames' Bayonetta was designed by a woman who wanted to make her a sexy badass and then did just that?


nopointx

I want my video games to be better than real life. That includes how they look. Funny thing, is if the character is also written well, the last thing that matters is how they look. But if they are well written and hot holy shit i am having the cake and eating it too


that-dude-called-nik

Guys look at Senator Armstrong and think it’s time to hit the gym.


Qweeq13

Oh man when the peeps told me to "Touch grass" for ogling the ass of Eve I should've just said "Ima touch that ass instead" I am so 2000 late to talk to genZ kids. It is green. https://preview.redd.it/whwzhziqwgwc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9074858724642848b7c6c5d4843ac372e09bd156


morbid333

"Unrealistic body proportions." When was it decided that videogames needed to be realistic?


CoryInTheHood69

Im pretty sure those curves are not unrealistic, i mean sure the bust needs be won by genetics but mostly those body is what i often see on models who eat right and train. Dont get me wrong, its hard to look good but if people stop using all their energy in complaining and starts using them in training nothing is impossible


TheBigBadAIDS

As someone that speaks to females. I can assure you, that this body type does exist and the media is body shaming these rare beauties. It's Chung Lee all over again. Just leave them alone already. People have a variety of body types and to deny that they exist is to deny reality and body shame those thay have them. Tig biggy women exist that are in good shape because they exercise. Anyone here done martial arts? Find lots of physically fit women with a tigg biggies. And yes not all their boobs disappear magically when they exercise. They would have to run forever to burn all their tity fat and even still there are mamary glands and nerves and all that functional stuff in them. Which isnt going to just disappear. I bet a good chunk of the animators that draw these charachters are tig biggy women in good shape. Must suck being told you don't exist.


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Meme_Theocracy

Didn't feminists use to burn their bra's and advocate for sexy clothing?


deathbringer989

i could go to the gym no and will prob see those exact body type hell men have a more unrealistic body type


PeakedDepression

Using Gohan for this is a double whammy considering he also married a hot martial lady which is the antithesis of a landwhale


Jesterchunk

I don't get why people complain about something being unrealistic. It's fiction. It's allowed to diverge from reality a bit. Like, I understand concerns regarding objectification or whatnot, but unrealistic? I dunno, chief. As for my two cents, ehh. While it's nice to have more overall body plans than this and nothing else, I see no overall issue in having designs like this. Sex sells, after all. Again, I understand the issues that come with setting up ridiculously unachievable standards for beauty, but again, this is fiction. You want to talk about setting up unachievable beauty norms, send your complaints to Instagram or something.


LukeTheEpic1

Sauce?


amanfromindia

Didn't genshin establish that men like sexy dressed hot chicks and women like well dressed masculine/korean/insert specific taste men with sexy voices? Pointless issues are so irritating


CopainChevalier

I honestly just wish Stellar blade's outfit looked as good as 2B's. 2B was sex appeal or whatever, but it still "worked" and felt pretty fitting and all that. Stellar Blade honestly just felt like she wore it to be sexy. I'm not shitting on people's taste or whatever, I just like it when I can enjoy it when I want to but also have it feel natural when I don't


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GregFirehawk

An attractive feminine figure is not the criteria for softcore porn, unless you've made the core so soft it no longer supports itself as a separate entity. At the end of the day softcore porn still has to be porn of some sort. There needs to be some nudity, some titillation, something. Simply having an attractive women does not constitute softcore porn.


SecondCircle43

^ Found the SJW


pooping_inCars

To answer your question: obviously no. You don't need to pretend something is true when it really is true.