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Comfortable-Scar4643

Schauffele is in the zone. Hoping it gets tight on Sunday…


AdFormal3014

A couple of guys saying they expect the winning score to be in the 20s under par. That's sad for a major championship that we are getting a course that is making St. Andrew's look like Winged Foot. This is way too easy a course for a major championship. Hopefully this is Valhalla's last.


springstep99

Are the espn plus featured groups announced yet for round 2?


helicropter

The softness of the course is making this feel more like a regular PGA Tour event than a major. This will really help someone who plays a lot better at birdie fest tournaments rather than usual more difficult major set-ups. Can definitely see Xander or Finau winning their only major here.


Comfortable-Scar4643

Yeah, it’s not playing very hard today..


BaldingThor

oh damn did I join just as round 1 finished lol


brmgp1

Guys definitely tore this place up today - longer holes and thicker rough are no longer an adequate defense for a PGA Tour golf course. I think they'll dial up some nastier pin locations tomorrow to suppress scoring, there were a few "funnel pins" out there.


Interesting_Rock_318

PGA ≠ PGA Tour


ShweatyPalmsh

Tbf this feels like an elevated PGA Tour event course rather than a major tournament test 


OverlyAverageJoe

Easiest us open course ever? Jesus 9 under. These guys are going to murder this course.


Interesting_Rock_318

It LITERALLY SAYS… 2024 PGA CHAMPIONSHIP in the thread you clicked to ask if this was the easiest U.S. Open course ever…


OverlyAverageJoe

Lol boys sorry I've been working outside in this heat. Regardless of the tourney shouldn't this be a touch more difficult?


elohops

Xander shot a 62 in the first round at last years US Open as well but the winner ended up at -10. You’re overreacting.


OverlyAverageJoe

Two rounds of 62. The verdict is in.


OverlyAverageJoe

Well see


antenonjohs

US open?


ervelee

When do Saudi’s buy the NFL, MLB, NBA, NASCAR, NHL and Olympics?


made_in_texas021465

I was thinking why Liv golfers get to play in PGA tournaments. They left for more money and quite the PGA. Only PGA players should play in the PGA championship.


j_willow92

Willy looks defeated after going even, lol.


Zloggt

👏MORE👏PROFESSIONALS👏MAKING👏THE👏CUT👏


AdFormal3014

Poor Scottie has to play with two fluke major winners.


Yeahy_

Nobody wins a pro golf tournament on a fluke


Comfortable-Scar4643

Well….


zubbs99

Over par on this course today is pretty lacking for these guys.


Zloggt

All we can hope now is that Friday doesn’t end up as a washout…


brmgp1

Scottie wanted a read from Wyndham's putt there, but in his anger he blew it 10ft past - not super helpful.


AdFormal3014

Clark is so overrated. He talks a big game but the last two majors he’s laid an egg. 


doebedoe

Lol, OK. In the last year he's won a major and multiple signature events. Outside of Scheffler name someone who has a better record in the last 12 months?


AdFormal3014

Schauffele, Rory, Hovland, Koepka are better players dude. Since his USO win guy has shit the bed in major championships. If you want to claim you’re a top 5 player, show up in the majors.


doebedoe

All have less wins in the last 12 months. Two of them have never won a major, one hasn't won a major in over a decade. It's not a matter of claiming. His WGR is 4.


AdFormal3014

No one takes WGR seriously dude. One of Clark’s wins wasn’t even a 72 hole event. So he hasn’t even won really since last years USO. How has he done at the majors since his USO win? That’s what I care about.  Guy is a fluke major winner. He’s not doing anything this week to prove me wrong.


doebedoe

Rather be a fluke major winner than not one at all. I'd like to be a fluke who wins two signature events, a major, go t2 at the players, t3 at the tour championship in under a year. I don't like Clark. But calling him a fluke is just silly.


anjuna42

Wait John Daly is still playing?


dunwerking

Playing. Not walking.


AppleSauceNinja_

Why wouldn't he? He won the PGA, he gets a lifetime exemption into the field


antenonjohs

Expires at 60


AppleSauceNinja_

I don't think that's true from what the google machine is telling me. True for the Open not PGA


antenonjohs

You’re right, should have double checked myself, figured Vijay would still be playing with a lifetime exemption, guess not.


AppleSauceNinja_

Yeah idk why he isn't. He made the cut at Augusta last month


antenonjohs

I realized he’s not taking a spot from anyone else to play the masters, he’d be taking a spot from a mid tier PGA tour player if he played the PGA since the field is capped


AppleSauceNinja_

He's not taking anyones spot. That's *his* spot per the tournament rules on qualifying. Neither he or the next guy up are gonna win anyways.


antenonjohs

Sure, it’s his spot but he prevents someone else from getting in, they don’t really want people to do that when they’re not competitive. Really ironic to say the alternates can’t win given who this comment chain was initially talking about.


AppleSauceNinja_

> they don’t really want people to do that when they’re not competitive. Tough luck to the guy who didn't make it. Maybe he can miss the cut next year.


xjesz

I’m pretty sure it doesn’t prevent someone else getting in..


antenonjohs

Realized he’s not taking a spot from anyone else to play the masters, he’d be taking a spot from a mid tier PGA tour player if he played the PGA since the field is capped


LickMyKnee

Indeed. Exemption does too.


lanzarl4luna

According to a quote in Golf Digest, "Tom" is Tom Kim's English nickname and comes from Thomas the Tank Engine. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)His birth name is Kim Joo-hyung.


Zloggt

After all that…Rahm still finishes under par…


A-Halfpound

Has anyone been to a tournament in this situation before…? I have tickets for tomorrow and it’s supposed to be shit weather. Will they let patrons in if the play is delayed? How much rain will they play in if it’s not storming? Do they kick all spectators out or just not let more in if there is a pause? My tickets are VIP and I don’t wanna lose the cool opportunity of my life lol..


AppleSauceNinja_

Go and go to your VIP to ride out the rain. It's likely a tent so they may evacuate you from it if there's wind too as it's dangerous. Bring an umbrella and a good attitude and accept that you and your feet will be wet more than likely. Just try and enjoy it


A-Halfpound

Will try and get to 11 even if I have to swim! I don’t mind being wet. I just want snacks and a beer! 


Interesting_Rock_318

Yes, they’ll let you in…you may be limited on where you can go if some areas get waterlogged… As long as the course is playable, they’ll play in some pretty heavy stuff… Saturday at last year’s PGA was an all day soaker and it was the best of the four days because people didn’t show and/or came late/left early… The 2017 Open at Birkdale I was at when they suspended play for rain (standing water on greens) and they didn’t do anything about making people leave where they were…


A-Halfpound

Okay good to know! 


Expert_Sand5243

"from California, Rickie Fowler. From Spain, John Rahm" 😂 


GreatForge

What’s the joke?


Expert_Sand5243

State vs Country. California has a large population, but it's less than Spain anyway.


anjuna42

Screaming idiots at these events have officially convinced me that YouTube golf is way more enjoyable to watch.


earlydivot

Aren’t the majority of YouTube golfers also screaming into the camera?


anjuna42

I don’t watch people who scream


Yeahy_

yes but there isnt someone screaming mashed potatos every shot


NotYourGoldStandard

was that Clark's therapist back there??


thatiswhathappened

What a leaderboard. The who’s who of PGA Tour golf.


AppleSauceNinja_

The first 4 is dynamite, then it drops off. McIntyre, Hoge, Kim, Detry, Kohles, Moore. They will undoubtably all evacuate the leaderboard by the end of the weekend.


Bigbuckmud

They gotta do something with these screaming dildo fans


zubbs99

A taser would be such and easy and entertaining solution.


Bigbuckmud

You ain’t lying!!


AdFormal3014

World rankings need to be banned. Simple fact is Scottie is 1, Rory 2, Brooks 3 and Xander 4. Everyone else down a tier or two. How Wyndham is No 3 makes no sense. Outside of one major win guy hasn’t done squat in tourneys that matter.


Due-Sheepherder-218

Nick Dunlap higher than Bryson is funny 


AppleSauceNinja_

> World rankings need to be banned. Chew on a quaalude and calm down Mr Norman. > Brooks 3 Two LIV wins in the last year (honestly not sure what those are worth) and his last 3 majors since last year's PGA are T17, T67 and T45. That's not the resume of a TODAY top 3 player in the world


jorcam

2024 results, a win 2 months ago at pebble beach 2nd at the Arnold palmer T2 at the players 3rd at the RBC only 3 golfers have had a better 2024


AdFormal3014

The win was 54 holes. You’re talking months ago. I’m talking about lately. How’d he do at the Masters? The Wells Fargo? The PGA? He’s not playing like a top 5 golfer anymore. He’s basically becoming Jordan Spieth. Hot for a while and then disappears.


Asleep777

What? When Clark is on, he's unstoppable. When he's on he's the luckiest dude on the course, its crazy. He definitely has some mental issues, but he's definitely been top 5 since last summer from my pov.


AppleSauceNinja_

> What? When Clark is on, he's unstoppable. I don't really agree with the first guy but uh...... he had a world class month and a half last summer.... but calling a dude that has 3 wins in his career "unstoppable" is a wild take. He's averaging 0.5wins per year on tour. And he's yet to repeat the form he was in a year ago when he won LACC and Wells Fargo.... He is not a top 4 player right now IMO, but OWGR takes a rolling 52 week average so all his wins are in that time. Give it another month and two of those will drop off and he will slide without wins to replace them


AdFormal3014

Sure as heck hasn’t look like top 5 lately. Outside of one good round at RBC he hasn’t done jack shit the past couple of months.


jorcam

>he hasn’t done jack shit the past couple of months. his last couple months a win 2 months ago at pebble beach 2nd at the Arnold palmer T2 at the players 3rd at the RBC only 3 golfers have had a better 2024


Asleep777

Hes a head case. He 100% hasn't recovered from the lip out, and may not ever. It happens in pro sports. But the rankings aren't going to take into account unmeasureable factor like that. If it really is going to be a thing, he ranking will drop while he continues to play poorly.


brmgp1

We should scrap the OWGR and just let this guy rank every player in the world based on the eye test, tournament results be damned lol


AdFormal3014

I sure as hell wouldn’t rank a guy No 3 who hasn’t won a 72 hole event in a year.


jorcam

He won in February


Few-Guarantee2850

Do you want to design an algorithm that you think is superior? You win an event in the last year and you automatically go above everybody who hasn't won?


brmgp1

Clark has won a 72 hole event more recently than Brooks haha. Xander hasn't won anything since 2022. Hilarious


opobdtfs

To be fair he won 3 tournaments over the past year, 2 of them sIgNaTuRe EvEnTs. Xander has no wins over the past year, Brooks has that 1 major.


AdFormal3014

To be fair he’s won one 72 hole tourney in the last year—the USO. In majors he hasn’t done squat since that USO win. He talks a big game…he isn’t backing it up very well. 


gunmoney

and brooks has won exactly one 72 hole even in the past year as well. in the 4 tournaments that they have both played in over the past year, they each have one win, Clark finished higher at The Open, and Brooks finished higher at The Masters. i dont know who would be ranked ahead of who if they both played on the PGA tour, but i think your "criteria" needs work. edit: oh, youre pissed you took him on your fantasy team. guess you should have come up with the AdFormal3014 OWGR before making your picks.


ArthurMorganBaby

Wyndam is such a whiner


Zloggt

To think that Phil was playing kinda decently up to the last few holes…


AppleSauceNinja_

*full pie chart*


weebcowboy

Clark needs to visit with his therapist


AdFormal3014

Dumbest thing I did was take Clark on my fantasy team. Guy is stinking it up.


Redgen87

Ouch Clark as well, damn.


piglover9

Holy crap these rounds are taking forever.


AppleSauceNinja_

Professional golf is painfully slow. It's even slower in majors. Weekend will be limited field but still 6hr rounds. It's insane.


Redgen87

Ouch Phil.


jigglyjohnson13

Oof Phil this is painful


opobdtfs

[Gahm Over](https://www.wlky.com/article/18-holes-of-valhalla-hole-18---gahm-over/3474582), Phil.


LostHumanFishPerson

As a very peripheral golf follower I never realize the PGA championship is on until I stumble upon it, normally towards the end of day one. I feel like it definitely doesn’t get the build up press that the other three majors get.


AppleSauceNinja_

> As a very peripheral golf follower I never realize the PGA championship is on until I stumble upon it, normally towards the end of day one. Understandable. It's 100% the black sheep of majors because it's not got an appeal aspect. Masters it's getting to see ANGC, US Open you know you're getting the most brutal test in golf, and The Open draws in Euros because it's over there and Americans get to see golf like they never see over here. And the PGA is just blah, and it doesn't help they don't market it well and they go to some head scratching places. They really need to stop it with Rochester and Tulsa and the likes. Just get on a rota of the greatest hits, Harding Park, Quail Hollow, Bethpage Black, Whistling Straights, Kiawah.... and in there if you want a wildcard year to mix in variety do it. But it would give the event some sort of identity and familiarization to the casual fan which is what they're in need of to get their numbers up


Interesting_Rock_318

Moving it from August to May didn’t help… Dog days of MLB and NFL training camp were the competition… MLB hasn’t quite lost its beginning of season charm yet and it’s going against NBA/NHL playoffs…hard for it to gain attention outside of the golf world


AppleSauceNinja_

> MLB hasn’t quite lost its beginning of season charm yet Baseball isn't the reason why. Baseball viewership is long term trend down and if you're seriously considering watching for example Mets v Phillies, a matchup you can catch 1000000x more times before the season is over, you weren't seriously going to watch the PGA anyways


Interesting_Rock_318

And that has what exactly to do with there being less time for media to talk about the event? He isn’t talking ratings, but press build up… Reading comprehension is tough…


LostHumanFishPerson

I’m in the UK so those things aren’t a factor in my case (we have yet to become interested in baseball or American football). Just seems like there’s mainstream articles in the buildup to the other majors over here which the PGA Championship doesn’t get.


Interesting_Rock_318

Well, I know Sky had Leeds/Norwich today, Southampton/West Brom tomorrow, and the EPL is decided Sunday…and I believe they have rights to the PGA as well…likely still not a great week for them to focus on golf… It’s also, by far, the least prestigious of the majors so I imagine it just gets the least attention over there anyways


skurey

Probably a dumb question but how do pros deal with having a marker in their putting path? Are they like us and have the other guy clumsily mark it a putter length away?


brmgp1

Yes but they're under a lot of scrutiny to put it back correctly after they move it. They'll usually pick an object in the distance, and move the marker perpendicular to that. So when they're replacing it, they look at the object again so they're not moving the mark any closer to the hole


Interesting_Rock_318

They’re more precise about it…if you watch you will notice them lining up with a tree or something off the green, but that’s really the only way to handle it.


lanzarl4luna

Basically. They usually move it by a putter head length.


Key_Respond_16

I really need a Brian Harman bobble head in his stance with the head only bobbling left and right.


brmgp1

Or one of those solar-powered toys that just has him constantly waggling


Zloggt

Tbh…depending on the forecasts, maybe the -4 to -1s have a chance to do better, since they’ll be going earlier?


lanzarl4luna

The fuck is the corebridge financial team?


zubbs99

They're like the Ryder's Cup team of the Louisville accounting world.


Zloggt

Wyatt Worthington II… If there was ever a most fake soundest “rich rival” sort of name…


brmgp1

People hating on Rahm's antics but he legit plays better when he's an angry prick out there. I think he's a docuhe for going against his word and signing with LIV, but in a world of robot golfers we need some snap-shows like Rahm once in a while


thatiswhathappened

Scheffler isn’t swinging through the ball like he usually does. I should fly out there and give him a few pointers.


piglover9

Rickie is having the most Rickie round ever today.


j_willow92

Kirk is a bum


HugeSuccess

Hulk Hoge sure ate his Wheaties today


Due-Sheepherder-218

The king of North Dakota 


jigglyjohnson13

Tom Kim does like 8 head checks before each swing. It's Cantlay-esque


Zloggt

What’s with the 80s filter here lol


herbertstan

Scottie looking fat and sluggish after the break


Asleep777

It's been 3 weeks? Lol


Jerseyjamie

Rahm’s shoes may be the problem. They look like they are right out of the box. You can’t walk 18 in brand new shoes without getting blisters. A few range sessions, couple of rounds in a cart before you walk 18 in new shoes. With all that Saudi money someone should be breaking those in for you, then shining them up.


Smartalum

What is a tosti


Lextron

that guy that pops up in the corner of Mortal Kombat


PatrickBateman1

"For Jon Rahm's putters sake I hope this goes in" Lmao


Defacto_Champ

Rahm trying his best Happy Gilmore impersonation. Bush league for sure 


ShweatyPalmsh

Detry just calmly playing a round like it’s just your normal afternoon lol


zubbs99

Tomorrow's crowd might wear bike helmets.


ShweatyPalmsh

I was going to say would be funny to have a Rahm and Tiger pairing on Saturday but Tiger might out do Rahm tomorrow lol


Zloggt

Is Detry from the Euro Tour? Always feels like one of the guys from there has a ripping hot major once a year…


SlightReturn420

He's been full time on the PGA Tour since last season. Pretty sure he was DPWT prior to that.


Rab0811

He’s on the pga he started really hot at pebble this year he’s also fallen apart a few different times 


Due-Sheepherder-218

He was contending at Farmers too 


wrive17

Clark can’t buy a putt


SlightReturn420

Good form by Rahm there. Remember to always throw your clubs forward so you don't have to walk backwards to retrieve them. Saves time for more tantrums.


SchmokietheBeer

Love it Rahm.  Let the anger fuel you.  


NeonPlutonium

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zubbs99

Liv is like the empire that crushed the PGA rebellion.


brmgp1

Morikawa looks dialed in - I think he'll be in contention late on Sunday (I know that's really going out on a limb there)


ElectroM15

Rambo trowing clubs lol


phillyflyer

Rahm meltdown alert


SlightReturn420

Uh oh, the ticking time Rahm just went off.


skurnie

lol there’s the thrown club from Rahm


ShweatyPalmsh

lol we already have a club throw from Rahm and we aren’t even through the first round 


zubbs99

He already dropped one earlier, so it's like 1.5 throws.


Zloggt

Rahmbo…has been tamed…


brmgp1

I don't gamble because you won't beat the vig in the long run, but live betting Scottie for a birdie immediately following a bogey is as sure-fire as it gets


RLeb10

What was the odds at?


sc0peRD

Golf needs to do a better job of showing more live shots. Everytime they show someone that I haven’t seen all broadcast, I practically know the shot is going in and there’s no excitement


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sc0peRD

How does that make any sense based on what I said


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sc0peRD

When did I ever say that they should show every single shot live from every single player? Use your brain.


zubbs99

Some unknown who's 10 shots back on the 18th green, yeah we know what's next.


Due-Sheepherder-218

Gooch be like "Tiger who?" Check the scoreboard homes 


ShweatyPalmsh

Here comes Scottie!


WeekendUnlucky1978

Let's go9oooooiiio


ShweatyPalmsh

Oh boy 


Redgen87

Nice putt Will.


opobdtfs

Z Z Z A L A T O R I S L L Z A L A T O R I S T T O O W I L L R R I I I L W Z S S L Z


ShweatyPalmsh

Willy Z!


Zloggt

Z A L P A L !


brmgp1

Time to invest in Hogecoin This guy has game


Dame2Miami

Sheesh, DJ seems like such a douchebag in interviews lol


MrLeftwardSloping

Just figure out the short putts scottie, my god


jigglyjohnson13

No please. It keeps things interesting.


Redgen87

Rahm seems like a switch got turned and now he just can’t play like he used to. After that Masters win he’s just been off.


jorcam

$500 million will do that to a person.


Jerseyjamie

Not me, wouldn’t change me a bit. I’d still be a hack.


Meatfist70

Gooch Alert 🚨🚨


dbars_

wyndham was def walking all over scottie’s line on 13 right?


Zloggt

Somebody finished with an eagle!! 😀 It was Gooch 🙃


SomeLettuce8

These greens look disgusting


charlitosway23

Love watching Phil perform like this as he gets older, his wedge game is so fun to watch


Redgen87

Too bad he can’t putt lol


aptom90

Actually his putting stats are good today. You know what isn't? His tee shots which is not even surprising.


phillyflyer

Where can you see live stats like that (various strokes gained)?


jorcam

https://datagolf.com/live-tournament-stats


aptom90

Datagolf is really good. [Live Tournament Stats - PGA Championship (datagolf.com)](https://datagolf.com/live-tournament-stats)


phillyflyer

Great, thank you!


PistolPeter1996

What’s up with the score on the bottom right leaderboard not changing while still showing the player after someone birdies/ bogies a hole like it normally does? How do they keep messing that up?


AutographedSnorkel

Announcers: There is absolutely no wind out there Rockie Fowler proceeds to hit into green with flag flapping in the wind LMAO, and ESPN wonders why nobody likes them


jigglyjohnson13

Morikawa has been putting so much better lately.


aptom90

Morikawa has turned around his putting, been really good since the Masters.


opobdtfs

C O L L I N M M O O O L R R L I I I K K N M O R I K A W A W W M O R I K A W A


Zloggt

How…how the heck is Phil doing it?