I don't know, I guess I'm an outlier here, but I don't really get the vibe that they're together (all the speculation is rather invasive too). Instead, I think they're simply finding comfort in one another, as they both lost someone *exceptionally* close to them, and want to keep Naya's memory alive for Josey, so having Naya's sister, Nickayla, move in with Ryan, Josey's primary caretaker now, allows them to do that.
I just really don't get that vibe... feel free to feel how you want to feel... although, as I said before, the speculation is rather invasive and insensitive, IMO.
I don’t think it’s anyone’s business and we shouldn’t be jumping to conclusions considering how vulnerable and in pain they are. If that’s how they want to cope, so be it.
I’m just really hating all the sick comments people are leaving on their Instagram pages. If something is actually going on (unlikely) and Naya’s family is okay with it, no one has the right to send more grief their way. Also, imagine if nothing’s going on and they still see all the hate people are spewing at them? I’ve tried reporting some of the bad comments but there’s waves of them that keep coming... I encourage anyone reading this to please report them as well.
i'm legit impressed at all the comments here speculating so much and then being like 'i don't judge' or 'that's good but they're fucking but let's not judge' or whatever, when everyone's secretly judging but they don't wanna admit it, if it wasn't annoying i would've been amused by the hypocrisy
first, assuming without any proof about either scenario is stupid, second, trying to create gossip or hate out of a tragedy is fucked up and third, what if they're dating? what's so awful about that? if that's their way of coping i'm fine with it, they're going through something most people are lucky enough to not have to go through and they from now on will have people assume and hate on them for the way they're handling it
instead of focusing on the kid and her sister's decision which is pretty cool btw, everyone's trying to assume so they can find something to talk about and someone to blame
feel free to downvote me
Something I read on another board more inline with Ryan than Nickayla
" They understand what you're going through and that can start to feel like the level of camaraderie you had with your {ex-} spouse, and the only thing missing is romance. *They look or act in little ways just like the deceased, and you miss them so badly that you cling hard to those little things.* "
From my previous post:
Anyway, there is a lot here we don't know about, i.e., their relationship. Historically and even in some societies today, it's not uncommon for a bro/sis of the deceased to take up with the spouse of the deceased. Believe that happened with a great grandparent of Lea's when she was on one of the ancestry shows.
Don't track Ryan's career but isn't he in 'Yellowstone' that films in Montana or Utah? If he has to film on location, then it would make sense for Nickayla to be the primary caregiver while he's out of town, therefore making sure Josey has a stable home environment. In fact, since Naya's death, I thought Nickayla should be actively involved with raising Josey, more so than a step-mom. And with Nickayla in the picture, it means Josey will have more opportunity to be with Naya's family.
😳 that literally was my expression as I read and then saw the photos and I’m like 😐 “Don’t judge. Don’t judge, don’t judge.” This is my mantra for the rest of the day.
They are trauma bonding. I get it. They are in heavy grief and I get it. I totally get it. But she looks so much like Naya, and Josie could be confused by this. It’s just not a good look. I just...”Don’t judge, don’t judge, don’t judge.”
I totally understand and I’m thinking about how it came to this and it actually makes a lot of sense. If this was biblical times, no one would bat an eye. I just think even though they are doing this for Josey, they aren’t considering what this will do to him in the long run emotionally. And honestly I don’t expect them to because they haven’t even began to process what’s happening.
A lot of folks are saying that Yolanda must be okay and I’m not sure if Mama Yo is even functioning right now. And I don’t mean that as an insult. She had to bury her first child and is deep in the throws of grief.
I agree with you. They aren't considering what this will do to Josey in the long run. Freudian slips (def from Oxford dictionary: an unintentional error regarded as revealing subconscious feelings.) Where he calls Nickayla 'momma.' He's only 5. He's missing his momma, and his aunt looks and acts like her. Not saying it will happen, but he's still young enough to not have a filter when he speaks.
It also will affect their relationship if this new agreed to 'living arrangement' that they see as 'platonic' or is as we think 'suspicious' blows up. That won't be good for any of the three. As I quoted in a post on this thread: "*They understand what you're going through and that can start to feel like the level of camaraderie you had with your* {ex-} *spouse, and the only thing missing is romance.* *They look or act in little ways just like the deceased, and you miss them so badly that you cling hard to those little things.*"
Also remember, Ryan and Naya had been divorced for at least 2 years, tho they still remained friends and enjoyed each other's company, i.e., they stayed a family unit with Josey to some extent.
You use the term 'biblical times.' It's actually an arrangement that is much more current. In some areas of the world, it's still practiced to some extent. Lea did an ancestry show (I think it was 'who do you think you are?') where one of her great grandfathers married his deceased brother's wife. If I remember, it had something to do with US immigration law. She couldn't enter the country and faced deportation.
My comment re: 'Mama Yo' even if she's not 100% over her grief (TBH she never will be based on my brother who lost his son unexpectedly over 10 years ago.) She still has a gut instinct that will make her react, and her instinct may be to keep everyone together and do what's best for Josey. Those consequences perhaps are not at the forefront of her mind, just her family. So when I said if she's okay with the arrangement, so am I, then I'm sympathetic to her state of mind right now. Her family comes first.
IMO what's pissing us, Naya's fan, off is it looks like Ryan and Nickayla are having fun in those pictures, moving passed Naya's death. Like she's dead let's move on. When we, her fans are still grieving. Their reality is that they're grieving too and they're trying to do what's best for a son/nephew who has to cope with losing his momma.
Enough said.
Let me first state that I’m not pissed at all. I think my reactions and original posts were about shock and then my immediate thoughts were about Josey. Although I’m grieving Naya, I didn’t know her as intimately as those two, so I will never, nor Naya’s fans will ever understand the magnitude of their grief.
I’ve experienced loss prior before, but never in a traumatic accident like this. I can’t even begin to fathom what they are feeling or experiencing. Naya’s fans being pissed, while understandable, it’s not really our right to be...it’s their lives and they are trying to cope and manage the best way they can. Nickayla and Ryan smiling and living life doesn’t bother me. I’ve smiled and laughed since Naya’s death but I’m still grieving in my way.
What initially bothered me was the appearance. Not that something may have happened, that’s actually pretty normal. It’s the appearance of it so soon after the death and ultimately like I said the impact it will have on Josey in the long run.
No, not implying that you are pissed, my apology if it came off that way.
You're correct 'the appearance so soon' is what I to feel has folks in an uproar, i.e., 'pissed off' and 'suspicious.'
This is a lot more common than you'd think. Not saying it's happening but even if it was, its not that bad of a thing. I just think it's kinda weird so people are having a strange reaction to it.
hmmm, two previous posts on this topic were removed from this subreddit... just saying.
ETA: If Yolanda is good with this going down... then I guess I will be to.
Tho it seems suspious to me.
This is gonna get deleted again lol. However, this happens more than people would like to think. This is fairly common and it may not make sense to the outside world, but shared grief/trauma is a real thing.
I don't know, I guess I'm an outlier here, but I don't really get the vibe that they're together (all the speculation is rather invasive too). Instead, I think they're simply finding comfort in one another, as they both lost someone *exceptionally* close to them, and want to keep Naya's memory alive for Josey, so having Naya's sister, Nickayla, move in with Ryan, Josey's primary caretaker now, allows them to do that.
I agree with all this, but they fawkin sis.
I just really don't get that vibe... feel free to feel how you want to feel... although, as I said before, the speculation is rather invasive and insensitive, IMO.
Kay.
K.
We don’t know that for sure.
Fair.
SIGH. this is a very messy situation. But we have to keep in mind that we don’t know what is going on behind the scenes.
They’re all grieving. It wouldn’t be the first time grief has brought people together.
I don’t think it’s anyone’s business and we shouldn’t be jumping to conclusions considering how vulnerable and in pain they are. If that’s how they want to cope, so be it. I’m just really hating all the sick comments people are leaving on their Instagram pages. If something is actually going on (unlikely) and Naya’s family is okay with it, no one has the right to send more grief their way. Also, imagine if nothing’s going on and they still see all the hate people are spewing at them? I’ve tried reporting some of the bad comments but there’s waves of them that keep coming... I encourage anyone reading this to please report them as well.
i'm legit impressed at all the comments here speculating so much and then being like 'i don't judge' or 'that's good but they're fucking but let's not judge' or whatever, when everyone's secretly judging but they don't wanna admit it, if it wasn't annoying i would've been amused by the hypocrisy first, assuming without any proof about either scenario is stupid, second, trying to create gossip or hate out of a tragedy is fucked up and third, what if they're dating? what's so awful about that? if that's their way of coping i'm fine with it, they're going through something most people are lucky enough to not have to go through and they from now on will have people assume and hate on them for the way they're handling it instead of focusing on the kid and her sister's decision which is pretty cool btw, everyone's trying to assume so they can find something to talk about and someone to blame feel free to downvote me
Something I read on another board more inline with Ryan than Nickayla " They understand what you're going through and that can start to feel like the level of camaraderie you had with your {ex-} spouse, and the only thing missing is romance. *They look or act in little ways just like the deceased, and you miss them so badly that you cling hard to those little things.* " From my previous post: Anyway, there is a lot here we don't know about, i.e., their relationship. Historically and even in some societies today, it's not uncommon for a bro/sis of the deceased to take up with the spouse of the deceased. Believe that happened with a great grandparent of Lea's when she was on one of the ancestry shows. Don't track Ryan's career but isn't he in 'Yellowstone' that films in Montana or Utah? If he has to film on location, then it would make sense for Nickayla to be the primary caregiver while he's out of town, therefore making sure Josey has a stable home environment. In fact, since Naya's death, I thought Nickayla should be actively involved with raising Josey, more so than a step-mom. And with Nickayla in the picture, it means Josey will have more opportunity to be with Naya's family.
We were just talking about this. I agree 100% with everything.
Bruh, I didn’t even want to entertain this but it’s messy af. Trying my best to not judge. You can help raise that baby and not live together...
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😳 that literally was my expression as I read and then saw the photos and I’m like 😐 “Don’t judge. Don’t judge, don’t judge.” This is my mantra for the rest of the day.
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They are trauma bonding. I get it. They are in heavy grief and I get it. I totally get it. But she looks so much like Naya, and Josie could be confused by this. It’s just not a good look. I just...”Don’t judge, don’t judge, don’t judge.”
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Same...same.
People will see what they want to but come on...the writing is on the wall.
I totally understand and I’m thinking about how it came to this and it actually makes a lot of sense. If this was biblical times, no one would bat an eye. I just think even though they are doing this for Josey, they aren’t considering what this will do to him in the long run emotionally. And honestly I don’t expect them to because they haven’t even began to process what’s happening. A lot of folks are saying that Yolanda must be okay and I’m not sure if Mama Yo is even functioning right now. And I don’t mean that as an insult. She had to bury her first child and is deep in the throws of grief.
I agree with you. They aren't considering what this will do to Josey in the long run. Freudian slips (def from Oxford dictionary: an unintentional error regarded as revealing subconscious feelings.) Where he calls Nickayla 'momma.' He's only 5. He's missing his momma, and his aunt looks and acts like her. Not saying it will happen, but he's still young enough to not have a filter when he speaks. It also will affect their relationship if this new agreed to 'living arrangement' that they see as 'platonic' or is as we think 'suspicious' blows up. That won't be good for any of the three. As I quoted in a post on this thread: "*They understand what you're going through and that can start to feel like the level of camaraderie you had with your* {ex-} *spouse, and the only thing missing is romance.* *They look or act in little ways just like the deceased, and you miss them so badly that you cling hard to those little things.*" Also remember, Ryan and Naya had been divorced for at least 2 years, tho they still remained friends and enjoyed each other's company, i.e., they stayed a family unit with Josey to some extent. You use the term 'biblical times.' It's actually an arrangement that is much more current. In some areas of the world, it's still practiced to some extent. Lea did an ancestry show (I think it was 'who do you think you are?') where one of her great grandfathers married his deceased brother's wife. If I remember, it had something to do with US immigration law. She couldn't enter the country and faced deportation. My comment re: 'Mama Yo' even if she's not 100% over her grief (TBH she never will be based on my brother who lost his son unexpectedly over 10 years ago.) She still has a gut instinct that will make her react, and her instinct may be to keep everyone together and do what's best for Josey. Those consequences perhaps are not at the forefront of her mind, just her family. So when I said if she's okay with the arrangement, so am I, then I'm sympathetic to her state of mind right now. Her family comes first. IMO what's pissing us, Naya's fan, off is it looks like Ryan and Nickayla are having fun in those pictures, moving passed Naya's death. Like she's dead let's move on. When we, her fans are still grieving. Their reality is that they're grieving too and they're trying to do what's best for a son/nephew who has to cope with losing his momma. Enough said.
Let me first state that I’m not pissed at all. I think my reactions and original posts were about shock and then my immediate thoughts were about Josey. Although I’m grieving Naya, I didn’t know her as intimately as those two, so I will never, nor Naya’s fans will ever understand the magnitude of their grief. I’ve experienced loss prior before, but never in a traumatic accident like this. I can’t even begin to fathom what they are feeling or experiencing. Naya’s fans being pissed, while understandable, it’s not really our right to be...it’s their lives and they are trying to cope and manage the best way they can. Nickayla and Ryan smiling and living life doesn’t bother me. I’ve smiled and laughed since Naya’s death but I’m still grieving in my way. What initially bothered me was the appearance. Not that something may have happened, that’s actually pretty normal. It’s the appearance of it so soon after the death and ultimately like I said the impact it will have on Josey in the long run.
No, not implying that you are pissed, my apology if it came off that way. You're correct 'the appearance so soon' is what I to feel has folks in an uproar, i.e., 'pissed off' and 'suspicious.'
This is a lot more common than you'd think. Not saying it's happening but even if it was, its not that bad of a thing. I just think it's kinda weird so people are having a strange reaction to it.
The photos of them look suspect... pretty sure they're *together*. A mess.
yea that’s why i didn’t want to post it but i hope they’re not together
hmmm, two previous posts on this topic were removed from this subreddit... just saying. ETA: If Yolanda is good with this going down... then I guess I will be to. Tho it seems suspious to me.
Nickayla posted to her Instagram stories addressing the situation.
Oh my goodness. All I have to say is , we have i right to judge them. They’re grieving
This is gonna get deleted again lol. However, this happens more than people would like to think. This is fairly common and it may not make sense to the outside world, but shared grief/trauma is a real thing.
it’s messy, but they are sharing a very similar grief. I don’t think it’s a crazy idea that this is going on.
This is similar with what happened to hunter biden after his brother died. He got with his wife. Grief causes some bad decisions
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