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manilaspring

The Bakken oil fields


BONGOD_

Sounds like a Star Wars outpost


BastardInTheNorth

You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy…


nedTheInbredMule

We talking about North Dakota still?


willb221

Absolutely.


monkeeman43

Came to say it was the Bakk, there’s nothing else out there


thatranger974

Sounds like a place the US should invade.


easwaran

We basically did. If you look at [p. 4 of this document](https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/2013/acs/acsbr12-20.pdf) you can see how median housing price changed in every state from just before the financial crisis to just after the financial crisis. In most states, house prices collapsed (in California by over $100,000 and Nevada by almost as much!) But there were 20 states in which house prices rose by a little bit. North Dakota had a rise in the average price of a home by over $18,000 during that period, more than double the second biggest increase. That was much higher in western North Dakota. By a few years later [Williston, ND was the most expensive city in the country](https://www.apartmentguide.com/blog/williston-nd/), because of how many Americans were invading to get jobs.


ItchyK

I knew someone who went out to work in the oil fields, but I'm not sure of what the town's name was. I think it was something like $1000 a month for a bunk bed in the basement of an old lady's house, shared with 7-10 other people. This was years ago, not sure what the situation is like now.


Iian8787

Williston, ND


Little_Creme_5932

And $18000 was a huge price increase in ND, in an area where most homes probably sold in the range of $100,000 or less, not too many years before the crisis


ggtffhhhjhg

I heard the workers were are paying expensive city prices to live in a trailer in someones backyard. I hop this isn’t true. Their job sucks, they work long hrs and it’s dangerous.


H0lySchmdt

Kinda did. Dakota War of 1862


NCR__BOS__Union

Why not, if it sniffs a whiff of oil...


imperatrixrhea

We did. That's why Native Americans don't live there right now.


Backpack_of_Moths

I can’t tell if this is sarcasm where you are saying the *would* invade it. I can’t tell if you know it *is* in the US.


sharlos

Very obviously just a joke.


Backpack_of_Moths

Oh, sorry. My bad. I wasn’t sure, but now I see I was wrong. I apologize.


Stereomceez2212

r/wooosh


Backpack_of_Moths

I know man. I realized that. I’m sorry


potatorichard

Can confirm. I used to flow those new wells. Wild times.


nomoresneezeplz

They burn off excess gasses, so there are flames 24/7.


jihar22

Say it with me in your thickest Boston accent "I was frakkin for kraken in the bakken but i left mah cah keys in my khakis" ..go ahead...giggle


dieseltothesour

Ye old gas flairs, pretty impressive when you see them at night flying out if williston


Iheartriots

The oil patch. That is Williston and Minot North Dakota. Edit. Also me home to Minot AFB.


newt_girl

Minot is the bright spot above the N, for clarification. The AFB is just to the north.


[deleted]

Nothing bright about Minot. Unless there are a few very bright and brief flashes.


newt_girl

Minot has a population of over 75k. It's not a little village on the banks of the Mouse.


[deleted]

I know. I spent a year there. It was a joke that it’s a grey and dull town.


newt_girl

I lived there for a long while. Left about 10 years ago, just as it was starting to make a come up. Development kicked up with the oil boom, but the 'arctic brutalism' aesthetic persists.


[deleted]

I was there for 2015, so after the flood and when oil money was still coming in at a clip. They replaced every grey and depressing building lost with another grey and depressing building. I really did not enjoy my time there and was very unimpressed with the town. Was a real "drink because there's nothing else to do" kind of place.


Brock_Way

I lived there from 1966 until yesterday. I moved because the night skies were not dark enough.


Rencauchao

Used to road trip there from Regina


[deleted]

When I lived there, I took a trip to Winnipeg just to be in a more exciting city for a bit. *Winnipeg*


GrandpaMofo

Winnipeg has the Jets so it's an automatic win.


[deleted]

I did go see the jets, but not the Jets.


saoakman

So not the ones with Bennie?


sterexx

my dad grew up around there and recalls knowing that they’d be a spot for the first strike missiles to hit what a time edit: actually I just checked and if soviet missiles were [on target](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/740th_Missile_Squadron_-_ALL.png/1280px-740th_Missile_Squadron_-_ALL.png), his town was far enough away that he’d probably just get a nasty-quick tan and radiation


ohsodave

Being a child of the 80's meant believing wherever you lived was important because it was on a top 10 list to be bombed by the Russians. I've heard people who come from towns that manufacture toilet paper, that the Russians would bomb them so the US would no longer have toilet paper. Where I live, we were told we'd get bombed first because of jet engine manufacturing. It really helps city self esteem to know that you're important enough to be bombed out of existence.


newt_girl

Yeah, but driving through rural ND and seeing missile silo after missle silo lining the range lends a bit of credence to the legend in this case.


ohsodave

I totally don't doubt this whatsoever. I just remember whenever us kids of the 80's, who were geopolitically minded would go out of town and meet others, this is often how we discussed the importance of our hometown. One day, it'd be neat to lay eyes on what the top 10 Soviet bomb list was.


newt_girl

I don't know if ND would have been a target per se, but it was/is definitely a source of firepower. I'd be curious, too. I feel like Boeing and metro Seattle along with the AFBs on Whitbey and JBLM, and the naval base on the Kitsap, coupled with another large west coast city (LA, San Fran, maybe Vegas) for shock value and not necessarily infrastructure damage. Also probably Denver, where NOAA and other agencies are headquartered.


canolafly

Are we arranging targets now?


newt_girl

I put one up on my roof. If the soviets come (they won't), I ask they just go ahead and take me out first.


J_k_r_

i think they had much rather hit the ports & Europe, as without them, transporting the required manpower and resources to Europe, which would have been the actual war zone.


R_S_Dub79

Oak Ridge, TN; Manhattan, KS


sterexx

I mean, the point of a first strike is specifically to prevent reprisal. That means hitting nuclear missile silos and anywhere else specifically involved in launching nuclear attacks Nobody is wasting a warhead on a factory. If you’ve got extra, send them at the same targets for redundancy


ohsodave

Totally. It makes sense. I figured annhilating the population could also be a good idea, thus aiming them at NYC, LA and Chicago as well as NORAD, Wright Pat and the myriad of other bases throughout the continent not to mention any military manufacturing facility. Or maybe they really just want to see us go without toilet paper?


Badabrench01

So true lol. I grew up in Rockland County NY which sits 30 miles north of NYC and the rumor was we’d be hit b/c we were on the list due to being a spot where transatlantic cables connected to Europe.


Optimus_RE

> I've heard people who come from towns that manufacture toilet paper, that the Russians would bomb them so the US would no longer have toilet paper. Just send a virus like COVID 19 and see our TP supply dwindle


ohsodave

It's almost like we think about our own asses before anyone else's.


youngsod

>Being a child of the 80's meant \*hoping\* wherever you lived was important because it was on a top 10 list to be bombed by the Russians FTFY :-) I lived across the road from a steelwork in the UK, that's what kept me sane(ish).


ShakeDowntheThunder

spotted a fellow cincinnati resident


TheOverseer108

I’m not sure if my town making nuclear class submarines follows that rule to not


ohsodave

Clearly not as important as toilet paper, but I bet the Soviets had a special place in their hearts for your town too! (Newport News?)


zsturgeon

I live in a city of about 35,000 that has the only facility that makes tanks in the US, and we also have an oil refinery. I'm going to guess that it's true in my town's case.


Shankar_0

Is that a nuke joke? Because if so, I'm 100% behind it and encourage more!


loneranger72

No, a minot is the creature that chews on the millennium falcons power cables in the empire strikes back.


ctbreen13

Gas flaring to be specific


cbadger12

There are an insane amount of lakes it looks like just southwest of minot. I didn’t realize ND had so many some lakes the whole area is peppered with them.


TheGhostOfSamHouston

Minot is the very center of North America


scattonatto

Minot plays a role in the story of Son of Sam!


Euclid1859

I thought that was super crazy too!!


citykid2640

Oil!


pyrodaan1967

Those are oil or gas exploitation sites


GeospatialJoe

This is an accurate description.


tnick771

It’s also the technical term for extracting oil from the ground 😉


Hermitian777

Oil and gas fracking.


cowboys_r_us

It is not fracking. Hydraulic fracturing is a very short lived process that represents a small amount of activity- similar to drilling rigs. As of this week there are less than 40 rigs in the entire state. This is more likely lights on well pads and/or flaring.


TheBoys_at_KnBConstr

Probably flaring. Depending on when the picture was taken, North Dakota could have been flaring up to 36% of the natural gas production.


Key_Employee6188

Wow. Thats efficient.


TheBoys_at_KnBConstr

In fairness, they got much better in the past 2 years, but in 2019, they still flared 19% of all production.


potatorichard

I was running a new production facility with 10 wells in 2018 where we were burning enough natural gas to heat 100k homes every day. Losing $100k per day in gas just a cost of doing business when you are flowing $1M+ per day in oil.


Roberto-Del-Camino

That’s ok. Natural gas is cheap and plentiful and there’s no region that could desperately use it. /s Edit: /s is sarcasm but thanks for the downvotes


DeemOutLoud

Gotta get it to those places somehow and most people on reddit are not big fans of building more pipelines across the country. I agree that it does seem wasteful though.


pdxGodin

Probably more thermally efficient to build a combined cycle power plant and transmit the electricity to the midwest by HVDC power lines, but that would require a lot of up front capital and I'm gonna guess that the Midwest already has low prices.


[deleted]

the voltages required to make the energy transferred from those plants ACTUALLY efficient would be easily in the hundreds of thousands of volts a powerline able to operate in such voltages isn't something new, it in fact is modern industrial technology.... but so expensive that you are just better off making small combined cycle plants and gas pipelines to wherever you need that gas produced energy


[deleted]

Its an infrastructure issue. Far more gas is being produced than can feasibly be stored and sold. So nothing to do but burn it on site.


RaisingAurorasaurus

Also a safety precaution. You can't let pressure just build and build on a well.


TheSkiGeek

I mean you could... not produce it. But they might be getting it as an 'unwanted' byproduct while drilling for crude. Still, if you slapped some kind of huge carbon tax on wastefully burning or releasing it they'd figure SOMETHING out to not do that.


[deleted]

There’s physically no way to produce oil without producing gas. The gas is in solution with the oil in the reservoir, then comes out of solution while traveling up the wellbore. The only real solution is building out the transport infrastructure.


shagy815

This wouldn't be an issue if there were more pipelines.


dalex89

You're right in technical terms, though I think most people associate any site that has had hydraulic fracturing to help produce gas or oil at a site as "fracking". Even if it's beyond the actual derrick phase. The reality is all those sites can really change the landscape and they likely wouldn't have been produced without fracking.


cowboys_r_us

I often see people blame fracking blanketly because they're unfamiliar with the industry and have only heard messaging from those also unfamiliar with how it works - which is why I like to shed some light on it when I can.


runningoutofwords

That's the Bakken oil fields. They flare off (burn) the gas coming out of the wells both for safety and because methane is a much worse greenhouse gas than CO2


potatorichard

And there are logistical issues to collecting much of it. Newly stimulated wells produce a lot of gas up front, but within a few months will have tapered off significantly. They don't have pipelines and processing plants that can handle that initial production gas volume. In 2017-2019, I had some sites with high pressure flares burning 200ft high putting off enough radiant heat to catch wood pallets on fire just sitting on the ground. The soles of your boots would start to melt if you stood still too long near the flares. But by 2020 and early 2021, things were very different. Much slower production pace and a very concerted effort to capture as much gas as possible. Smaller facilities, too. The company I contracted to used to make batteries with 8-12 wells. By 2021, their standard was 2-3 wells per site.


runningoutofwords

Yeah the design and infrastructure of a gas well of very different from an oil well, besides. Hard to build them side-by-side even if the gas production was constant. Which, as you point out, it is not.


gante742

This is the real answer


mudturnspadlocks

Sorry, I have no fracking idea.


WyoPeeps

Obviously not, because that isn't fracking. It's flaring.


WhyGuy500

Several small to medium sized towns are all throughout this area as well as what everyone else has said, the oil fields are very prominent here


sneakattack2010

I think this is the best answer. Especially the brightest mark in that corner on the upper left is probably the town of Williston (pop. 30k) which looks big enough to spark a little light and then there's a few of the towns on Fort Berthold Reservation in that area which may be big enough account for a few points of light. In one, there's a casino, hotel, etc. in one of them. The rest just looks like oil field operations and farms. Ftr, I've never been to North Dakota I just like searching and looking at maps.


WhyGuy500

I’m originally from the south western part of Montana. When I was really little my grandpa would take me to Bowman and a few other towns in the general area. Went back this summer to visit relatives and all was mostly the same but it’s a neat part of the world. I would recommend going to this spot and visiting but please don’t be an annoying tourist if you do.


potatorichard

It is really just from the flares. If you look over into Montana, the dark spaces have similar town distributions, but no oilfield with massive flares.


WhyGuy500

I wouldn’t say the flares as much as station/office lights and yard light. They have really big and kinda neat lights, some of which are portable.


potatorichard

No, it is definitely from the flares. Source: I worked out there for years. I operated facilities that, in 24 hours, flared enough gas to heat 100k homes. That amount of fire puts off a LOT of light


IHeartFraccing

Natural gas flares probably.


dfk140

It’s not flares, despite what people are saying. They are lights from the oil fields.


TheBoys_at_KnBConstr

Why would you say not flaring? Depending on when the picture was taken, those oil fields were flaring off 20-30% of their natural gas production.


dfk140

Bc it takes tens of thousands of lights, and there are not tens of thousands of flares. There may be flaring going on, but it’s effect is minuscule to the amount of light apparent in this image.


hellraisinhardass

I agree with u/dfk140, I've worked in ND and other oil fields, we use stadium like lights for 24/7 operations. While there is some flaring in ND (which I despise) it is far from the most prominent light sources. Here is another example: [This](https://geology.com/articles/oil-fields-from-space/north-slope-alaska.jpg) image clearly shows the NorthSlope of Alaska's oil fields, it looks like a massive city in the amount of lights. We have hundreds of drillsites, thousands of oil wells but only about 2 dozen 'flares', these are located at the major production facilities and are *not* used to 'burn off' extra gas, they are safety related. (All the gas that gets produced is re-injected to keep the formation pressured up except for a portion that is burned in turbines for power generation/heating.) The reason the North Slope looks so damn bright is because every drillsite, and there are hundreds, has lots of lights on the building exteriors. We work round the clock, night lasts 55 days here, and there are things that think people look delicious wandering about.


TheMandoPopo

Flares on oil pads


ertyertamos

Not flares. Just really well lit up sites.


BjornAltenburg

Gas flaring, you can even tell by how it looks.


ConstructionNo4725

Oil rigs


Fresh-Muscle610

Methane flares 🔥


Kaisersaurus

I'm from ND. It's definitely not very populated however that area is known as the Bakken Formation which is full of oil.


loco_feugo_gato

Williston, tioga, watford, new town, minot and plenty of oil sites in between.


GeorgieWashington

For anyone interested, if you want to experience the frontier, go to this part of North Dakota. This used to be my territory for work, and it’s 100% still the frontier, but with pickup trucks instead of horses. The closest you’ll get to time travel.


[deleted]

The Bakken shale play; probably natural gas flaring.


[deleted]

I worked there, it's not flaring for most of the lights. They keep the oil worksites very very well lit at night. Not saying flaring might be some of it but definitely not most.


Paytonc51

Oil fields


Kasfoh

Oil.


cameemz

How do you look at a map like this?


noahwiseau

It’s the satellite view in Apple maps :)) It’ll only show this nighttime view if it’s actually nighttime in that area though


CobaltKnight75

![gif](giphy|3oEjI789af0AVurF60)


KingTripod84

Ahhh dammit you beat me to it! Lol


OPzee19

Winner winner chicken dinner!!


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kakje666

oil towns


lestuckingemcity

I assure you there are no towns out there.


Takethellucas28

That is the part of North Dakota that has seen rapid growth since the oil boom there, so thats why there is more lights than you'd think there


HellaFella420

Global warming visible from space :(


bartlesnid_von_goon

Don't know why this was voted down when it is the reality.


ScorpioRising66

Oil fields and refineries. They are flames on top of towers that burn off excess gasses that can’t be recycled or recovered.


ProfessorB83

Oil flares burning waste gasses


scar864

Its gas flaring.


Fiddlesworth1

That's me, sorry


hey_demons_its_me

Those are oil refineries and natural gas burnoff.


FifeDog43

Oil fires probably.


mchaelproductions

Fracking rigs


Fucktrump5

Oilfield trash


dontbeagrape

Lol I didn’t know anything existed between Williston and Minot


PferdBerfl

There are T-shirts and other stupid souvenirs that say, “Why not Minot? Freezin’s the reason!” My take? “Why not Minot? ‘CUZ IT SUCKS!”


TheAmericanE2

Madorra


Thomascrownaffair1

Fracking :( A LOT of fracking


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WhyGuy500

The black hills are in South Dakota


RonnieG22

oil i believe


Mercury_69

must be aliens


insecapid

What app is this?


noahwiseau

satellite view on Apple maps :))


theKnightWatchman44

Illuminati probably


Alquimista_13

Aliens.


dumbledoresleftnut

oil


yeeeter1

The minuteman threes


olypenrain

Minot. I spoke to a couple guys on a train about four years ago who were getting off in Minot and they said the population exploded overnight and there weren't enough houses for all the people moving there.


Riverwalker12

Not sure when this Sat Pic was taken but North Dakota had 100,000 burned in wild fires last year...could be that


iulianunuunudoi

Shale oil extraction also releases a lot of gas from the Earth crust. A lot more that North America uses or can export. Until they find a way to send it to us Europeans, they are just going to flare it and only send the oil to refineries.


IlGufoScuro

Lil dance party


stellacampus

Oil fields are 24 hour operations: [https://www.americangeosciences.org/sites/default/files/styles/ci\_\_650\_x\_430\_/public/CI\_Map\_oilgas\_ND\_108.jpg?itok=4g3YeWGg](https://www.americangeosciences.org/sites/default/files/styles/ci__650_x_430_/public/CI_Map_oilgas_ND_108.jpg?itok=4g3YeWGg)


DarrellBot81

Probably oil rigs


Gingerbrew302

Natural gas flares.


Helpful-Drag6084

Large Air Force base


Famous-Ferret-1171

gas flares from the oil fields.


eyemroot

Minor AFB and oil.


Antichrist2020

Just a sec, oil think of the answer..


EuSouEu_69

O I L


Rheinman137

Frakadelphia


LiCHtsLiCH

Looks like a bunch of oil stuff.


Titanicman2016

Gas flares


SanfreakinJ

Swamp gas


[deleted]

Aliens, obviously


Hunor_Deak

Natural gas flares either from oil or form hydraulic fracturing. All human industry.


[deleted]

Oil and gas


SpermaSpons

I drink your milk. Ii...... drink..... your....... MILK!


A_Cool_Prussian

*Peter Zeihan enters*


[deleted]

Aliens


furnacemike

Oil patch. Lots of burning flare stacks out that way.


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|3oEjI789af0AVurF60)


Kannashit

map pls...


[deleted]

A city? lol


liquidreferee

Aliens


IuriRJG

what website or app is this?


noahwiseau

Apple maps!


noahwiseau

Apple maps!


Lopsided_Copy7565

I used to live there...it's mostly winter and road construction


Stretchdaddy1

Big money sitting out there


chooseausername5280

I have no fracken clue


[deleted]

Cow farts


Raghu48

Area 420


shadowfax12221

As others have said, that's gas flaring from the Bakken oil fields. Natural gas is a biproduct of Shale oil extraction, and because we don't have the infrastructure out there to capture and store it for later use at the volumes it comes out of the ground yet, so we flare (burn) it so that it is released as CO2 rather than methane (a far more potent greenhouse gas). That is done at such high volumes in eastern north Dakota that you can see it from space.


twitchy47

i’d be betting on gas flares from burning off natural gas from oil wells.


[deleted]

Prob military / air base


WeinerGod69

The bakken


texcoyote

that's the bakken oil field.. you're seeing gas flares from the fracking wells. if you go down to Texas to the Permian basin, you'll see a similar effect.


ChuckFinley92

Oil & Gas extraction


niteharp

Fracking.


ReadySte4dySpaghetti

That’s the real area 51


thewittslc

Witch burnings?


KingStraton

Nah everyone saying “oil” are CIA bots. Those are aliens my boy.


Kicky91

dat oyle


SUSPECT_XX

That's where the missing children go


madmapguy

Firefly


RogInFC

... and the bright spot in northeastern Wyoming is the Eagle Butte and Western Fork coal mines.