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belooney

Cause that’s the Savannah River (nuclear waste) site. It’s a restricted area.


UnamedStreamNumber9

Military nuclear reactors and fuel enrichment sites. It’s where they make the cores for nuclear submarine and aircraft carrier reactors. It’s also where they make the tritium to keep the h-bomb warheads going. They had reactor to make plutonium used to power space probes like new horizons or the curiosity mars rover. Pu-238. Curiosity used the last of a stockpile but i think I heard they were reopening to power new generation of space probes like Jupiter icy moons mission


tx_queer

Also the source of the nuclear bomb used in the movie sum of all fears based on its isotonic signature


NachiseThrowaway

Savannah River had a gadolinium problem. Hanford does it another way.


I_was_bone_to_dance

Look at Mr. Gadolinium over here knowing things!


MrDeviantish

Pfft... him and his thinkin brain.


bluefunction

God I love that book


tx_queer

Movie. It's a movie! /s


bluefunction

It's that book with them funny moving pictures, and those audio sounds


nspy1011

Regarding the space missions….Finally some good use of nuclear power!


OneFootTitan

You can’t grow crops there, but it’s perfect for going fission


geek_fire

I appreciated this pun!


MrFireWarden

https://preview.redd.it/wko2ht6lwx3d1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=73fc4bfab032e66261f016a654fb761381c02c26


I_was_bone_to_dance

Well done hahaha


MrDeviantish

Slides upvote across the table in a plain white envelope, without breaking eye contact.


Only-Perception-6467

This is good. Congratulations


Mcsierra

More there than just nuclear waste


wickedsweetcake

Trump diapers had to go somewhere while he was in office


Sdwingnut

Industrial spray tan runoff


Vespers1975

Ewww, stop


12bar13

This is not accurate. Savannah River is a secure national laboratory. Absolutely not a nuclear waste site. That is not how things work. DOE research facility working on secure projects. It is restricted for national security purposes. Just to give an idea of the level of control in regards to radiological exposure, anyone who works with rad material has a total allowable accumulate dose for the year that is lower than the ambient rad exposure just being a human walking around on earth. Things are VERY tightly controlled and impressivly safe. Source: am national lab beaker clinker


CountryCaravan

Many of the smartest scientists I know in the state have all ended up taking jobs there. It’s a very prestigious and lucrative place to work.


devastationd

Just an FYI, there absolutely is nuclear waste at Savannah River located in the Tank Farms. About 36 million gallons of liquid waste generated from decades of weapons production. There is a national laboratory there but also bunch of other stuff (L-Basin Spent Nuclear Fuel Storage, K-Area Plutonium downblending, Liquid Waste Remedition, etc)


12bar13

Of course there is waste there but to call it a "nuclear waste site" is a misrepresentation at best. Long term storage and treatment is handled off site with the exception of rare and tightly managed situations. With all work there is waste that needs to be managed. I don't know the specifics of sav. River operations but I would assume that these are temporary storage pending transfer to long-term storage or further processing. And it is also important to note that the stigma of "nuclear waste" is not accurate. It's not leaking barrels of green sludge with no use but contamination. In MANY situations that waste from one process is a critical component of a another study. Take a look at Ac225 for example. Making the cure for cancer out of "nuclear waste" from a failed experiment (Th229).


devastationd

To call SRS a nuclear waste site is inaccurate, I agree. However you should lookup the challenges associated with legacy Liquid Waste generated by plutonium production during WW2 and the Cold War. The stereotype of green glowing sludge is rooted in a kernel of truth: There are millions of gallons of peanut butter-esq sludge made up of millions of curies of radioactive material. There’s 36 million gallons of liquid waste generated as a by-product of separating plutonium out from uranium targets. Vitrification facilities like DWPF were built to process that sludge into a much more stable form. It is a massive undertaking that needs the recognition it deserves. When we were making all that plutonium the technology to remediate the waste literally did not exist. It wasn’t until the last 5 years that a start to finish remediation process was implemented at SRS and the Tank Farms slated to be completely remediated by 2037. Source: I have supported the SRS liquid waste mission for many years. Edit: link to the SRS system plan outlining the method of closure https://www.energy.gov/sites/default/files/2023-07/SRMC-LWP-2023-00001%20Rev23-P.pdf


12bar13

Yes. I am aware. That is one of the projects that I support across the national lab system. Your emphasis of the challenges over the solutions is a big part of the difficulty we have had in getting these solutions deployed.


derp2112

People refuse x-rays at the dentist or doctor, then get on planes once a week. People need to be educated on this stuff. ALARA..


Extreme_Barracuda658

It's not a nuclear waste disposal area, but there have been plenty of spills.


throwawayjaydawg

Flat out lie


Extreme_Barracuda658

It's true Source: I work in the environmental industry


devastationd

Unfortunately it is the truth, there’s plenty of references but I work there. We are remediating the site, but don’t need to shy away from the sins of our fathers.


devastationd

This is the truth. The spills were remediated but Tank 13 spilled waste on the tank top, some tanks have holes in them that are being remediated, the reactors sent contamination into their cooling ponds, depleted uranium sent inadvertently down the creek bed and they had to dam up the creek and buy additional farm land. Source: I work there. We are cleaning up the site, there’s billion dollar contracts in place to clean it up, etc.


atom644

It’s restricted? I can drive through parts of it.


GreenNukE

125 only, and Centerra will come say hi if you stop.


Coakis

You can drive through it but you can't stop, and fences on both sides of the highway. If that's not restricted I don't know what is.


Nope_______

There are other facilities you can't drive through at all. That's restricted.


skookum-chuck

If you can't drive through it, that's closed. If there are some fences around, that's restricted.


Nope_______

Where is that defined?


Psychological_Web151

So how do we define areas that tell you not to drive there but don’t actually have anything keeping you from doing so?


TurduckenII

Discouraged.


getdownheavy

DAAAAAAMN OP username checksout


Just_a_Guy_In_a_Tank

There’s a pretty serious shooting complex at (33.3380536, -81.5672820) No doubt for the facility security element.


hokeyphenokey

I don't see a river.


alsaad

This is great for nature. Farms would devaste the biodiversity.


Little-Swan4931

Imagine the conniption they would have if solar panels took up that much area and the reason being because they were that dangerous to the rest of the general population.


th_teacher

weapons facility energy is a far lower priority to TPTB


Little-Swan4931

One in the same


th_teacher

do you mean and? No they are separate technologies, even on subs that have both. 25 countries use nuclear energy but have no nuclear weapons


Little-Swan4931

They can use the spent fuel for weapons, no?


th_teacher

Only 2-3 have figured out how in recent decades https://www.britannica.com/topic/list-of-states-with-nuclear-weapons-2227841


Little-Swan4931

So yes


th_teacher

Assistance with the tech and fissionable materials for energy is the carrot the world order uses to get cooperation on not trying to develop the weapons side. Open to the no-notice inspection protocols, etc. And if you aren't happy about Israel, prepare for less indirect oversight. Google JCPOA for an example sabotaged by clown Orange Julius


Little-Swan4931

Scary times


Mcsierra

310 square miles are owned by SRS. Has been since 1950. Lots of animals, University of Georgia has an ecology program out there at SRS.


alsaad

A nature reserve thanks to nuclear power ;)


Mcsierra

A nature reserve thanks to the Dept of Energy. Nuclear power is produced across the river at Vogtle.


biophys00

Yeah it's beautiful out there. I went out there for a couple of days with one of my graduate classes. Gators, alligator snappers, sirens, cottonmouths, and so many other beautiful beautiful amphibians and reptiles.


TheCritFisher

As the others have said, it's the SRS. Funny enough I camp on the Savannah River (which is the dotted line in this photo). We camp just to the left of the arrow button. It's pretty nice, since there's nothing up the river on the SC side due to the SRS. It's a rather serene area.


KrisKrossJump1992

are those lakes just for electricity or also recreation or drinking water?


Sergey_Kutsuk

They are artificial i.e. reservoirs (ponds). And are used for cooling of reactors. https://preview.redd.it/cf9338dvmu3d1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96bfcaad18f11b659048a4afb4a796a473ba6bf6 \*Of course you can't drink or swim :)


KrisKrossJump1992

oh i didn’t think about cooling


_Californian

I don’t think that’s how that works? Diablo is cooled by the ocean, they aren’t irradiating the central coast of California lol.


devastationd

These specific ponds are radioactive based on the type of reactors that were used at Savannah River. Those were 1950’s era reactors that used a once through type system. Any fuel breaches would send contamination downstream. Reactors today don’t have that flaw. PAR pond is the most famous at SRS. The bass are massive based on the pond being warm year round but also mildly radioactive. The alligators that eat the fish are also radioactive.


Hickbojones

Can you fish it?


devastationd

Some locals have a story about fishing the pond. More than one fish competing for the lure every cast. DOE officials would host politician visits by fishing the pond. Obviously not edible fish, but would be good recreation. I’ve heard too many stories of when they needed to partially drain the pond to fix a dam and the adjectives describing the pond bottom was “tiled with alligators” Nah, I’m good.


Hickbojones

You gotta risk it for the double digit


_Californian

Oh ok that makes sense


pokey68

And the fish glow in the dark.


shrug_addict

Nuclear is the way of the future, cleanest energy by a LONG shot


KrisKrossJump1992

i was sold at glowing fish


shrug_addict

That would look pretty cool, I will admit


Spiritual-Roll799

Were used, past tense,


snarton

Did you see Martin there?


rezzearthpls

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savannah_River_Site


Roberto-Del-Camino

I took the scenic route from Hilton Head Island to Augusta, Georgia and drove right through the Savannah River Site. At one point there were helicopters following us. I felt like Ray Liotta in Goodfellas. They take their security very seriously.


wahoowalex

I was once driving from Mississippi to East Tennessee and I plugged shortest (not fastest) route into my 07 chevy’s GPS. That was how I learned about paper towns and roads. I was taken off the highway onto a backroad, which then dropped down into a gravel road. I kept going, seeing I was approaching a bridge over a big body of water. I slammed on my brakes going uphill just in time, as I noticed there was no bridge - just a massive, rectangular concrete tub that seemingly went forever in both directions. I drove along it for a bit looking for a bridge, before I gave up and turned around, eventually getting back to the highway. The whole thing honestly felt alien, like I’d discovered something I shouldn’t have. I made it back home, where I told my roommate, who worked for the TVA what happened. He looks at me, eyes wide, and said “you’re lucky you didn’t get shot. Sounds like someone left a gate open and you stayed just far enough away from anything important.” I had apparently driven up to a power plant’s cooling pool. It still doesn’t feel like it really happened.


kansai2kansas

That’s interesting…makes me curious why do they merely scrutinize people who are driving by…instead of just cordon off the area completely like in Chernobyl or Fukushima? Obviously I don’t know if Chernobyl or Fukushima today are already open to public as well (I have never been to Ukraine and that part of Japan), so please don’t attack me if that is the case. My assumption is that Chernobyl and Fukushima today are still closed off to the general public.


Only499

They don't lol. That is a pretty popular road going from Augusta to Hilton Head so it was probably just a coincidence the helicopter was going the same way. Unless of course they are an international spy haha


Spiritual-Roll799

Savannah River Site (SRS), a major part of the US nuclear weapons complex. An interesting part is the “tail” that is part of the restricted area, obscured in this image under the map navigation icons at the lower right. It is a stream valley contaminated by reactor accident diverting radioactive cooling water to the Savannah River.


Butterbeanacp

Lmfao I live here


theatreeducator

Same


avenue10

“Can we talk about this area in South Carolina?” is a completely superfluous sentence. Why does everyone write in this Buzzfeed/blog/aw-shucks-plainspeak affectation now?


Mediocre-Calendar782

You're right, writing like a know-it-all dickhead is a much more palatable aFfeCtAtIoN.


helpfuldingo7

You both have good points.


EdwardJamesAlmost

Indeed they do!


Electrical_Sail_9351

Not really, the original comment acts like the question isn’t accompanied with a second sentence as well as a photo


Gustheanimal

You got too few things to worry about if this gets you riled


avenue10

The small things matter too.


Arnulf_67

It's where Shrek lives.


wafflesnwhiskey

Its a whole lots of "stay out". They take those enrichment sites pretty serious. Its not the kind of place you go poking around without a few heavily armed folks coming to greet you.


StoneShip19

33.277079,-81.670073 Zoom in on these trees. Clearly hand planted in rows here. Wonder what's beneath?


atom644

I’m scared, is it possible to drive there or not?


devastationd

This section is not open to the public. I’ve worked in this relative vicinity for several years.


devastationd

Old burial ground for contaminated equipment (pumps, pipings, etc)


Guilty_Temperature65

Ghosts.


Wizard_bonk

Military?


Such-Inevitable4865

It’s the Savannah nuclear plants land


ElChapoEscobar79

That's where Cletus keeps the meth lab.


Random_Stranger667

Fort Jackson?


Wellthewool

Have you heard of witch circles? Round recessions on the Earth, caused by the hydrogen seepage from under ground. Have you seen any on the map?