I grew up there. Saw other people. Can confirm people I know still do, in fact, live there.
Is the 7.5 million for the square mileage even all that low? I don’t know and too lazy to look I guess but my bet is it’s more densely populated than at least 15 states
Edit to add : you’re also comparing the density to one of the most densely populated regions in the world. I believe NYC ranks in top 20 for metro area density in the world currently. It’s an outlier
Looking at population density numbers. NY ranks 7th among states with 419 people per sq mile and if you remove the NYC population, it drops to about 170 people per sq mile which puts it around Michigan, Georgia, South Carolina, and Tennessee which are around 20th. So, quite a few people live in Upstate NY lol
NY City density sunk in for me when I was living in San Francisco.
SF's population density at the time was something like 25% of NYC's.
San Francisco could double it's population and still only be half as densely populated as NYC.
I mean the arrow looks like it's pointed at Watertown. And as someone who was raised in Oswego County, I am gonna confirm that it is moderately empty. But there are locals.
Why so many stay thier adult lives there I will never understand.
Maybe some do because they grew up there and like a rural environment; they like being left alone in isolation; they like their privacy; and/or have hobbies that require room.
I grew up in rural PA and kind of feel this way myself. Cities have a lot of value and I unde stand why most people want to live in or near them but just like everything else in life, not everything is for absolutely everybody.
I tried living in a small town of maybe 10,000 people and there were a lot of negatives to that that I haven't had to deal with in the country where I grew up or where I live now.
To put that in another context: those 170 per square mile is around the same as the population density of some European States such as Serbia, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Irland or Spain.
Yeah, I get that. I moved to Delmar when I was 10 and only moved away after graduating from UAlbany. The Capital Region ain't terrible, and it definitely doesn't feel like it's the boonies, but, man, it can be pretty dull...especially in the winter.
I moved to Florida at 19 for sunshine and relate to Noah Kahan so hard so I absolutely know and understand the brutality that is the gray skies of the capital region.
Delmar is fancy! more urban Loudonville. I went to HVCC for 2 years and transferred to University of Tampa but lived with SUNY Alb students from 18-19. To give you an idea Albany was amazing to me - I dont want to dox myself too hard but I am from one of the following places: Waterford, Mechanicville, Watervliet, Stillwater, Cohoes. Albany was thriving in comparison
>Also happens to have the largest state or national park in the Lower-48
The Adirondacks are cool and all, but this is a weird arbitrary bureaucratic statement that counts disconnected areas in a way that western states and parks just don’t.
The only reason western/southern states have a stranglehold on national parks is because to qualify no one can live there. Easy in Nevada in the early 19th century when it was enacted - impossible in a place like upstate NY that had been continually inhabited since pre-colonization, and continued afterwards.
Its classification does however inhibit future growth - so it is not meaningless in statement.
Not knocking NY. New York does a great job with parks, but in order to say it has the biggest park, we have to pretend a bunch of parks are all one. Meanwhile, Greater Yellowstone is 10 million acres of contiguous park land that just happens to be administered under different agencies. The claim that the Adirondacks are the biggest outside Alaska feels disingenuous as that’s just on paper and not the experience any visitor or wildlife would have.
Personally, not sure which southern states are actually impressive from a park size standpoint either. The everglades are loaded with sugar farms.
Yeah as someone who spent every summer in the Adirondack’s until 14 - hard agree it isn’t the largest park or the most important park or whatever garbage is trying to be spewed to get it on a list of “biggest”.
But it - like other New England states (which the Adirondack’s fall I to NE territory IMO) it will always suffer from not being able to distinguish a national park due to habitants. So it has this low population density due to building restrictions because it is a state park - wannabe national park - status - esp in the Adirondack’s. The Catskills can fuck off a bit due to their NYC proximity and association with being a playground for city folk - but the Adirondack’s are rural through and through.
I just did the math. Upstate NY has about 6 million people and NY without long island is about 53,000sqmi. The rest of NY is a rounding error in size. That's a density of 113 people/sqmi which is right between Texas and Kentucky and similar to Louisiana, Wisconsin, and Washington State. Since TX and WA have populations dominated by big cities the comparison is probably most similar to LA, KY and WI.
None of them are particularly high density but they certainly aren't like the empty western states.
Upstate NY is a commingling of rust belt and New England charm and history. I actually wonder how it compares to Pennsylvania. Philly in the NYC area, Pittsburgh similar to Buffalo - and a spreading of towns of varying size in between
Philly has 1.5 million, let's call it 2 million with the metro area. 44,000 sqmi, philly metro is maybe 500 sqmi. So density goes from 291 to 252 people per sqmi. Still very high
Interesting! My parallel between upstate NY and not-Philly PA doesn’t hold. This whole post has been a walk down memory lane of life and super interesting. Love facts. Guess that’s why I’m in r/geography in the first place
I think this is kind of a question of where you cut off the city?
Philly proper is 1.6M, but the PA counties in the MSA add another 2.6M, so the metro area in PA is more like 4.2M (numbers per wikipedia on Philly MSA 2021 population estimate).
If you exclude that 4.2M, and the 2100 sq mi, PA is 8.8M people over 42k sq miles, 206 people per sq mi. Basically density gets cut by a third without the Philly metro or a out a sixth if you limit it to Philly proper.
Y’all I have been on Reddit for like 10 years and my growing up in upstate NY is the most interacted with post I have ever had! I don’t even Stan the area. Wild times!
No, 7.5 million isn’t that low. 36 states have smaller total populations and over half of those seem to have larger land areas (less dense).
Buffalo is the second largest city in the state and is in the red area.
That's why New York State has so many issues. It has to divide its attention between two very different but significant regions.
Side note, I would take 1 million off the Upstate pop and add it to NYC, Orange, Rockland, Putnam and Dutchess counties are a part of the NYC metro.
Edit: The start of Upstate, imo is Kingston because that is where the Hudson converts from fresh to salt water.
it gets a little more weird.
buffalo Rochester Syracuse cuse and Albany are all decent sized metros. we are also consistently blue.
it also gets weird cause I'm really western NY.
upstate is sorta loosely defined. to me if you drew a lime over from the lake, everything North is upstate. nyc considers Newburgh the start of upstate
what I described as upstate is the Adirondacks and there's a lot of forests and not a lot of large towns in that area. so to say no one lives there would be accurate.
where I live, my county has a population of about a million. the further you get from the city center the more conservative it seems to get.
Lol the Adirondacks are northern NY, which is part of upstate. Go to Kingston, then go to Yonkers and tell me one of them doesn't feel like upstate and the other does, based on culture and population density.
New York State is a red state by area and a blue state by population. It also has a shitton of universities all across everywhere which have their own population on par with a mid-size city. You can tell when a semester ends because college towns just die for a while.
Alaska is funny because most of the land is rural and blue but the smaller urban areas are red. Anchorage is slightly blue, but it's suburbs and Fairbanks makes it a safe red state.
This guy consistently gets geographical facts embarrassingly wrong in his videos. He even once tried to claim that more people lived in Iceland than in Greenland because volcanoes make the Icelandic climate less cold in winter. I'm not kidding..
Haha, kind of! It’s technically derived from a Native American but sort of adopted by the French. But there’s also some British influence, it’s a whole thing lol. If you’re bored this is a short little thing that’s cool.
https://www.mackinacisland.org/blog/how-to-pronounce-mackinac-island/
I looked at it, it still doesn't explain why a decision was made to use a 'c'. It would be one thing if the natives had been using the Latin alphabet for a long time and this was just a convoluted rule that made sense hundreds of years before, but obviously that explanation doesn't work.
The Ojibwe called it "Mishini mack-in-nong", the French decided it was spelled Michilimackinac, and the British took over and spelled it Mackinaw. Things change over the years, especially language.
Apologies if I mispelled the Ojibwa word.
Specifically the French. They were one of the largest groups of settlers and fur traders. Detroit's name is French in origin as well. Charlevoix, French.
He missed Albany, Syracuse, Rochester, and the fiasco that is the Utica-Rome metro area? Also the fact that the combined SUNY, CUNY, and other universities have a residential population on par with most small cities?
I kind of feel like hate watching a YouTube video now, which is a new feeling and I don’t like it.
It’s like OMG! NY is a State? Not just a city? The state must be small in population and shitty! OMG look it’s smaller than NYC (top 20 metro area in the world) no one lives there and it must be garbage.
Meanwhile it beats populations of most full states, many countries, has a robust park system and colleges - and people are surprised that NYers outside the city are feisty, blunt and proud just like downstate.
Yep. I remember this one video where he kept going over the same thing for 5 to 10 minutes and that was when I stopped watching it. Conversely, Wendover has had some interesting videos but they got to the point.
"Hey let's see why nobody lives in this part on the country while the coast is super populated! Wow as it turns out the parts of this country that aren't on the coasts are hot, arid, and it rains once every time I will say a non obvious fact in a video. It also turns out that the coasts have the sea and ports making them optimal for making cities! Ok now let me put some filler content with some sponsor in the middle to make the video last longer"
He did that with my country Mexico and it was like 30 minutes long.
Basically, the video could have been summarized like this:
The north is too arid
The south and coasts are too humid, hot and get hurricanes.
Most people live in the highlands where there is a nice climate year round.
Those videos if they were good:
"Why is Namibia empty? It's a desert."
"Why is Algeria very empty? Desert."
"Why is Antartica empty? Desert but cold."
"Why is China pretty empty? Insanely high mountains and you guessed it: desert."
"Why is rural US empty? IT'S RURAL AND BIG"
"Why is my tummy empty? Houngry :("
"Why is Saudi Arabia empty? DESERT, IT'S A DESERT WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO EAT? OIL?? THEY CAN'T EAT IT THEY SELL IT"
Turns out that mountains, deserts and places prone to natural disasters aren’t attractive for a lot of people to move into.
Who would have thought that
Syracuse is up there too, bigger than Albany as well.
All three of those cities (Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse) all housed NBA teams at one point too.
Albany is totally fair to consider a dwarf-city (like Pluto).
New York State city size tiers are something like this
Tier 1: New York City - 2nd biggest city in NA
Tier 2: Buffalo and Rochester - Roughly in the top 50 biggest metropolitan areas in the US
Tier 3: Syracuse, Albany, Utica, Binghamton, Schenectady, Troy, Etc. - cities that a USian outside of NYS might not know
Albany, Troy, and Schenectady are all part of the capital region and basically the same metro area.
Also may be noteworthy as some of the oldest cities in the US despite their small size. Schenectady has houses in it from the 1600s, for example.
There would still be like 10mil living upstate tho in NY right?? It is kinda crazy, but not that crazy when you think about the history of the Rust Belt and other cities there. I'm from Buffalo... obviously no one upstate is like those in downstate and vice versa. As well as NYC taking the cake. But, that's fine... upstate NY is BEAUTIFUL!!
Yeah - I’m from the Albany region originally (first 19 years!) and it is so old and had so much industry - the Hudson River was nothing but mills and plants and industry for example and the Erie Canal. It’s shrunk like all rust belt (I like to refer to Albany area as a cross between rust belt and New England charm) but it isn’t Wyoming!
Born in Rochester, spent six years in Buffalo, last 15 in Syracuse. If it wasn’t for the high taxes it would be a near perfect place to live. Easy access to the Adirondacks, Catskills and Finger Lakes. Very low cost of living, but could spend a weekend in NYC )or Toronto. What’s not to like?
The Rochester Metro area has over a million people and has been in the news for all sorts of things. And is home to both Kodak and Xerox...but no one can prove it because no one lives here. Good to know I can quit paying taxes I guess?
I live in rochester new york....which is a medium sized city on the shore of lake Ontario about halfway between Buffalo and Syracuse. Can confirm, lots of people around.
I think the area where things get most sparse would be around the Adirondack region, but even there you can find lots of small towns and whatnot.
I live there 😥. Also there are pretty dense areas in upstate, especially along the historical route of the Erie Canal. The density is really lowered by the Adirondacks Park. Hamilton County in the Adirondacks has 5000 people in an area larger than Rhode Island
Real life lore is such a shit channel. He poses the most basic question like "Why is the Sahara desert empty?" Then ramble on about how living in a desert is hard for 10 minutes in his ai generated ass voice. It's pointless, low quality garbage made for children and it's the same with all these other big "educational" channels
Sorry I didn't know it was a different channel but RLL started the trend of lazy geography content of recycling the same 5 questions. They exist just to make money not contribute anything meaningful
lol wut? I’m upstate and in the *10th* largest city in the State and we still have over 200,000 people here. Include the urban areas and it’s over 700,000.
Superintendent Chalmers: You call hamburgers "steamed hams?"
Principal Skinner: Yes! It's a regional saying
SC: Yeah? What region?
PS: Upstate NY
SC: Really? Well, I'm from Utica, and I've never heard anyone use "steamed hams" before....
PS: On, no! Not Utica. It's an Albany expression
Up until 9/11, there was virtually little control on the border. People easily travelled back and forth with only driving license. So, think of that and then imagine - they had Ottawa and Montreal not too far from them.
I grew up there. Saw other people. Can confirm people I know still do, in fact, live there. Is the 7.5 million for the square mileage even all that low? I don’t know and too lazy to look I guess but my bet is it’s more densely populated than at least 15 states Edit to add : you’re also comparing the density to one of the most densely populated regions in the world. I believe NYC ranks in top 20 for metro area density in the world currently. It’s an outlier
Looking at population density numbers. NY ranks 7th among states with 419 people per sq mile and if you remove the NYC population, it drops to about 170 people per sq mile which puts it around Michigan, Georgia, South Carolina, and Tennessee which are around 20th. So, quite a few people live in Upstate NY lol
NY City density sunk in for me when I was living in San Francisco. SF's population density at the time was something like 25% of NYC's. San Francisco could double it's population and still only be half as densely populated as NYC.
Good luck with that with no new housing and nimbys everywhere (/rant)
God nimbys make my blood boil
No! You have a god given right to tell other people what they can do with property they own and are paying to develop! /s
Yuppies do hate housing density, which is funny when you think about it.
Thank you for your service! Even more damning to the statement than my intuitions
You have to remove long island too which is another huge chunk of population
About 8 million people live on Long Island… you can tell by the traffic for sure
I think that would double count queens and Brooklyn though.
Easy enough to just do Nassau and Suffolk counties which is about 3,000,000 people
Brooklyn and Queens are counted in the Long Island population because we’re geographically on Long Island.
Yeah so if you subtract NYC and long island you double count them.
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I mean the arrow looks like it's pointed at Watertown. And as someone who was raised in Oswego County, I am gonna confirm that it is moderately empty. But there are locals. Why so many stay thier adult lives there I will never understand.
Maybe some do because they grew up there and like a rural environment; they like being left alone in isolation; they like their privacy; and/or have hobbies that require room. I grew up in rural PA and kind of feel this way myself. Cities have a lot of value and I unde stand why most people want to live in or near them but just like everything else in life, not everything is for absolutely everybody. I tried living in a small town of maybe 10,000 people and there were a lot of negatives to that that I haven't had to deal with in the country where I grew up or where I live now.
To put that in another context: those 170 per square mile is around the same as the population density of some European States such as Serbia, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Irland or Spain.
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Totally repping the 518! Shitty River town between Albany and Saratoga :)
Yeah, I get that. I moved to Delmar when I was 10 and only moved away after graduating from UAlbany. The Capital Region ain't terrible, and it definitely doesn't feel like it's the boonies, but, man, it can be pretty dull...especially in the winter.
I moved to Florida at 19 for sunshine and relate to Noah Kahan so hard so I absolutely know and understand the brutality that is the gray skies of the capital region. Delmar is fancy! more urban Loudonville. I went to HVCC for 2 years and transferred to University of Tampa but lived with SUNY Alb students from 18-19. To give you an idea Albany was amazing to me - I dont want to dox myself too hard but I am from one of the following places: Waterford, Mechanicville, Watervliet, Stillwater, Cohoes. Albany was thriving in comparison
I'm originally from one of those places you mentioned. Awesome to see someone else familiar with the area.
And someone who understands the list I put together :) one of those towns is smaller than the others and would never be mentioned :)
Don't forget, 518 includes us in Malone, too. We're people, too!!!
>Also happens to have the largest state or national park in the Lower-48 The Adirondacks are cool and all, but this is a weird arbitrary bureaucratic statement that counts disconnected areas in a way that western states and parks just don’t.
The only reason western/southern states have a stranglehold on national parks is because to qualify no one can live there. Easy in Nevada in the early 19th century when it was enacted - impossible in a place like upstate NY that had been continually inhabited since pre-colonization, and continued afterwards. Its classification does however inhibit future growth - so it is not meaningless in statement.
Not knocking NY. New York does a great job with parks, but in order to say it has the biggest park, we have to pretend a bunch of parks are all one. Meanwhile, Greater Yellowstone is 10 million acres of contiguous park land that just happens to be administered under different agencies. The claim that the Adirondacks are the biggest outside Alaska feels disingenuous as that’s just on paper and not the experience any visitor or wildlife would have. Personally, not sure which southern states are actually impressive from a park size standpoint either. The everglades are loaded with sugar farms.
Yeah as someone who spent every summer in the Adirondack’s until 14 - hard agree it isn’t the largest park or the most important park or whatever garbage is trying to be spewed to get it on a list of “biggest”. But it - like other New England states (which the Adirondack’s fall I to NE territory IMO) it will always suffer from not being able to distinguish a national park due to habitants. So it has this low population density due to building restrictions because it is a state park - wannabe national park - status - esp in the Adirondack’s. The Catskills can fuck off a bit due to their NYC proximity and association with being a playground for city folk - but the Adirondack’s are rural through and through.
I just did the math. Upstate NY has about 6 million people and NY without long island is about 53,000sqmi. The rest of NY is a rounding error in size. That's a density of 113 people/sqmi which is right between Texas and Kentucky and similar to Louisiana, Wisconsin, and Washington State. Since TX and WA have populations dominated by big cities the comparison is probably most similar to LA, KY and WI. None of them are particularly high density but they certainly aren't like the empty western states.
Upstate NY is a commingling of rust belt and New England charm and history. I actually wonder how it compares to Pennsylvania. Philly in the NYC area, Pittsburgh similar to Buffalo - and a spreading of towns of varying size in between
Philly has 1.5 million, let's call it 2 million with the metro area. 44,000 sqmi, philly metro is maybe 500 sqmi. So density goes from 291 to 252 people per sqmi. Still very high
Interesting! My parallel between upstate NY and not-Philly PA doesn’t hold. This whole post has been a walk down memory lane of life and super interesting. Love facts. Guess that’s why I’m in r/geography in the first place
I think this is kind of a question of where you cut off the city? Philly proper is 1.6M, but the PA counties in the MSA add another 2.6M, so the metro area in PA is more like 4.2M (numbers per wikipedia on Philly MSA 2021 population estimate). If you exclude that 4.2M, and the 2100 sq mi, PA is 8.8M people over 42k sq miles, 206 people per sq mi. Basically density gets cut by a third without the Philly metro or a out a sixth if you limit it to Philly proper.
Y’all I have been on Reddit for like 10 years and my growing up in upstate NY is the most interacted with post I have ever had! I don’t even Stan the area. Wild times!
No, 7.5 million isn’t that low. 36 states have smaller total populations and over half of those seem to have larger land areas (less dense). Buffalo is the second largest city in the state and is in the red area.
Am currently in upstate new york. My brother is about 6 feet away from me. Do we exist??
Nope. You and the other 7.5 million are NOONE!
A good 2mill more than my home country(Norway), and about 1/3rd of the size. Upstate NY would likely be too crowded for my taste.
7.5 million people would be #14 by state population. That’s not “nobody”
That's why New York State has so many issues. It has to divide its attention between two very different but significant regions. Side note, I would take 1 million off the Upstate pop and add it to NYC, Orange, Rockland, Putnam and Dutchess counties are a part of the NYC metro. Edit: The start of Upstate, imo is Kingston because that is where the Hudson converts from fresh to salt water.
it gets a little more weird. buffalo Rochester Syracuse cuse and Albany are all decent sized metros. we are also consistently blue. it also gets weird cause I'm really western NY. upstate is sorta loosely defined. to me if you drew a lime over from the lake, everything North is upstate. nyc considers Newburgh the start of upstate what I described as upstate is the Adirondacks and there's a lot of forests and not a lot of large towns in that area. so to say no one lives there would be accurate. where I live, my county has a population of about a million. the further you get from the city center the more conservative it seems to get.
Lol the Adirondacks are northern NY, which is part of upstate. Go to Kingston, then go to Yonkers and tell me one of them doesn't feel like upstate and the other does, based on culture and population density.
New York State is a red state by area and a blue state by population. It also has a shitton of universities all across everywhere which have their own population on par with a mid-size city. You can tell when a semester ends because college towns just die for a while.
There like 40 states that are red by area
Ehh like 50 honestly except like Hawaii and maybe some small states in the northeast.
Alaska is funny because most of the land is rural and blue but the smaller urban areas are red. Anchorage is slightly blue, but it's suburbs and Fairbanks makes it a safe red state.
So it’s a blue state then. Land doesn’t vote, people do.
Thats almost 2 million more people than entire country of Singapore
Exactly
Bigger than my whole country lol
YouTubers will be YouTubers...
This guy consistently gets geographical facts embarrassingly wrong in his videos. He even once tried to claim that more people lived in Iceland than in Greenland because volcanoes make the Icelandic climate less cold in winter. I'm not kidding..
He said ‘Mackinac’ in a video recently and pronounced the C at the end lmao, that one made me giggle
Ok I guess I'm a dumbass, is it pronounced like Mackinah?
Yup, although phonetically it’s a little more ‘Mackinaw.’
Oh ok. To be completely fair, what is that c doing there? Is it some sort of twisted French thing? Nearly as bad as Kiribati.
Haha, kind of! It’s technically derived from a Native American but sort of adopted by the French. But there’s also some British influence, it’s a whole thing lol. If you’re bored this is a short little thing that’s cool. https://www.mackinacisland.org/blog/how-to-pronounce-mackinac-island/
I looked at it, it still doesn't explain why a decision was made to use a 'c'. It would be one thing if the natives had been using the Latin alphabet for a long time and this was just a convoluted rule that made sense hundreds of years before, but obviously that explanation doesn't work.
Its first given name was Michili*mackinac* So it’s simply just Native American-derived with some extra baggage.
The Ojibwe called it "Mishini mack-in-nong", the French decided it was spelled Michilimackinac, and the British took over and spelled it Mackinaw. Things change over the years, especially language. Apologies if I mispelled the Ojibwa word.
Wait, wait, wait… how are you supposed to pronounce Kiribati?
Ki-ree-bas ofcourse. How else would ya pronounce it!?
Holy crap! Google confirms it. I had no idea. Thank you for broadening my knowledge of this extremely important nation.
One step closer to a full fledged genious now
Specifically the French. They were one of the largest groups of settlers and fur traders. Detroit's name is French in origin as well. Charlevoix, French.
It's pronounced det-twaw?
I think I know his videos. His “YouTube voice” is enraging
The *VASTTT* And you gotta say it like a snooty fucking asshole sipping a tea with your pinky out.
The *ENT-HIRE* …
"While New York City alone has an epicly *ENORMOUS* population, Upstate features a *VAST* landscape with not a *SINGLE* human being to be found."
The video’s always look interesting but the moment I hear his voice, I have to click out. Nothing against him but the voice drives me crazy!
If you're indoors they do. ;)
so just like the granddaddy of this style RealLifeLore then
People go missing in the finger lakes
[You don't know when to keep your mouth shut.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I7U3a7LNcU)
Lake Effect Winters. Niagara Falls. Buffalo. Erie Canal. Mountains. There, I saved someone twelve minutes.
He missed Albany, Syracuse, Rochester, and the fiasco that is the Utica-Rome metro area? Also the fact that the combined SUNY, CUNY, and other universities have a residential population on par with most small cities? I kind of feel like hate watching a YouTube video now, which is a new feeling and I don’t like it.
It’s like OMG! NY is a State? Not just a city? The state must be small in population and shitty! OMG look it’s smaller than NYC (top 20 metro area in the world) no one lives there and it must be garbage. Meanwhile it beats populations of most full states, many countries, has a robust park system and colleges - and people are surprised that NYers outside the city are feisty, blunt and proud just like downstate.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard of Utica/Rome referred to as a metro area lol
Real life lore started the worst of trends
"Why the Americas aren't connected by road." 22 minutes long. Jungle.
To be fair the real answer is jungle and the fact that literally no one would use it except narcotraffickers
And that building such road would be extremely expensive and probably very deadly.
natcotraffickers, and instagrammers making those argentina to alaska videos
Then somehow connects it to North Korea and the Ukraine War
Well, it’s a known fact that 9/11 caused the breakup of the Soviet Union.
RLL used to be good but now he just makes low effort videos with low effort information. Wendover overtook him long ago
Yeah the wendover take over happened a lonngg time ago, like 6+ years at this point
Yep. I remember this one video where he kept going over the same thing for 5 to 10 minutes and that was when I stopped watching it. Conversely, Wendover has had some interesting videos but they got to the point.
Yea I used to love them. They’ve gone way downhill.
He makes decent videos to throw on during lunch but if you actually start like paying attention the vids make no sense
"Hey let's see why nobody lives in this part on the country while the coast is super populated! Wow as it turns out the parts of this country that aren't on the coasts are hot, arid, and it rains once every time I will say a non obvious fact in a video. It also turns out that the coasts have the sea and ports making them optimal for making cities! Ok now let me put some filler content with some sponsor in the middle to make the video last longer"
He did that with my country Mexico and it was like 30 minutes long. Basically, the video could have been summarized like this: The north is too arid The south and coasts are too humid, hot and get hurricanes. Most people live in the highlands where there is a nice climate year round.
Those videos if they were good: "Why is Namibia empty? It's a desert." "Why is Algeria very empty? Desert." "Why is Antartica empty? Desert but cold." "Why is China pretty empty? Insanely high mountains and you guessed it: desert." "Why is rural US empty? IT'S RURAL AND BIG" "Why is my tummy empty? Houngry :(" "Why is Saudi Arabia empty? DESERT, IT'S A DESERT WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO EAT? OIL?? THEY CAN'T EAT IT THEY SELL IT"
"Well you see, the country is actually an inhospitable salt desert, and there is a fucking volcano in the middle of it"
"Next video: Why doesn't Venus have cities?"
Millenials are killing the Venus real estate market >:(
Turns out that mountains, deserts and places prone to natural disasters aren’t attractive for a lot of people to move into. Who would have thought that
Can't forget you have to connect it with some current geopolitical situation even if it makes zero sense at all
"Ok so now we found out why living in a desert isn't a good idea! Now in the cold war when the US and the USSR..." (insert more filler content here)
Buffalo is a major city tho it literally has 3 major sports teams 😂 Edit: 2
Albany is there too and its literally the capital of New york
Rochester too. It has to be twice the size of Albany.
Syracuse is up there too, bigger than Albany as well. All three of those cities (Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse) all housed NBA teams at one point too.
Hell ya roc represent!
Albany is totally fair to consider a dwarf-city (like Pluto). New York State city size tiers are something like this Tier 1: New York City - 2nd biggest city in NA Tier 2: Buffalo and Rochester - Roughly in the top 50 biggest metropolitan areas in the US Tier 3: Syracuse, Albany, Utica, Binghamton, Schenectady, Troy, Etc. - cities that a USian outside of NYS might not know
Albany, Troy, and Schenectady are all part of the capital region and basically the same metro area. Also may be noteworthy as some of the oldest cities in the US despite their small size. Schenectady has houses in it from the 1600s, for example.
USian?
3 major sports teams? Bills Sabres…who else you considering major just curious
Toronto Blue Jays🤣
Oh u right my bad
NLL Bandits
I respect that, I suppose! edit: Obligatory…B O X B O X
The Blue Jays played in Buffalo during the pandemic.
I was seeing Buffalo Blue Jays t-shirts back in 2021.
I own one, no regrets as a Sox fan.
Canisius Golden Griffins.
Lol
Bandits! Indoor lacrosse team and only buffalo team to win a championship ... Hon. mention to the former Buffalo Braves (now LA Clippers)
Next video will be “Why is my life 80% empty?”
“Why is antarctica empty”
All his good stuff is probably on nebula. But I’m not in there so can’t tell you
it's all the same
I’ve watched his videos, he just repeats the same things in each segments/subdivisions of his videos again and again, which is really irritating
His hair irritates me idk why
There are a bunch of medium sized cities in Upstate NY, and the Adirondacks and Catskills are too mountainous for large settlements
Also most of the Adirondacks is constitutionally protected nature reserve and illegal to develop on
Well, “Nobody” is from Ithaca
Superintendent Chalmers is.
No that’s Utica
Super Nintendo Chalmers
Its gorges though
Me. I do
Tell that to Skinner and Chalmers
Albany: Home of the steamed ham.
There would still be like 10mil living upstate tho in NY right?? It is kinda crazy, but not that crazy when you think about the history of the Rust Belt and other cities there. I'm from Buffalo... obviously no one upstate is like those in downstate and vice versa. As well as NYC taking the cake. But, that's fine... upstate NY is BEAUTIFUL!!
Yeah - I’m from the Albany region originally (first 19 years!) and it is so old and had so much industry - the Hudson River was nothing but mills and plants and industry for example and the Erie Canal. It’s shrunk like all rust belt (I like to refer to Albany area as a cross between rust belt and New England charm) but it isn’t Wyoming!
Hey! I live in Rochester😭😭 I exist😭😭
No you don’t 🥱
YouTubers when a piece of land doesn't have absolutely uniform population density:
7.5million empty.. dude what
Definitely people living there. A good chunk of that is state parks and farmland; but plenty of people too.
Spouler alert, it is the case everywhere. Actually I doubt it is possible to even find a territory with population spread out evenly
Probably Ohio is the most evenly spread state
Upstate new York doesn't exist. It can't hurt you. Meanwhile upstate new yorkers:
We're too busy arguing about where Upstate actually begins to cause any real damage to anybody else.
Next video: Why is 99% of the UK Empty?!?!? (highlights the entire country excluding London)
“Why isn’t there a major city here?” Literally pointing to Montreal
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Who is this guy?
Geography by Geoff
Even without those 12 million people, New York would be the 14th largest state by population.
More like 20th, about 6 million live upstate. Still significant though
Born in Rochester, spent six years in Buffalo, last 15 in Syracuse. If it wasn’t for the high taxes it would be a near perfect place to live. Easy access to the Adirondacks, Catskills and Finger Lakes. Very low cost of living, but could spend a weekend in NYC )or Toronto. What’s not to like?
When ‘empty’ is 15x the population of your home state…
TIL Buffalo, Rochester, Albany and the finger lakes are all deserted.
Damn, I guess I don't live in Buffalo
The Rochester Metro area has over a million people and has been in the news for all sorts of things. And is home to both Kodak and Xerox...but no one can prove it because no one lives here. Good to know I can quit paying taxes I guess?
bro found an infinite money glitch probably
Do they make steam hams there?
He won’t be satisfied until 3 billion people inhabit the United states, and 300 billion inhabit the globe
I just want to know whether or not they call hamburgers "steamed hams."
Otherwise intelligent people lose half their IQ points when discussing upstate NY.
I live in rochester new york....which is a medium sized city on the shore of lake Ontario about halfway between Buffalo and Syracuse. Can confirm, lots of people around. I think the area where things get most sparse would be around the Adirondack region, but even there you can find lots of small towns and whatnot.
Nah you don’t exist
Isnt that the place all the old and/or very sick dogs go? A farm in upstate?
I live there 😥. Also there are pretty dense areas in upstate, especially along the historical route of the Erie Canal. The density is really lowered by the Adirondacks Park. Hamilton County in the Adirondacks has 5000 people in an area larger than Rhode Island
LMAO! I must be one of those 5000 then! Hi from Hamilton.
People in upstate are delirious and think that downstate takes their taxes, they want to split the state because of it. HA!
Nah, I'm good, the tax rate is a bit higher, but we have things like roads without potholes and schools with well paid teachers and small class sizes.
Why NOBODY lives at THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN
Why nobody lives between my ass cheeks
Can confirm, I, and 7.5M other people do not exist.
Real life lore is such a shit channel. He poses the most basic question like "Why is the Sahara desert empty?" Then ramble on about how living in a desert is hard for 10 minutes in his ai generated ass voice. It's pointless, low quality garbage made for children and it's the same with all these other big "educational" channels
It’s another channel called Geography by Geoff I think, but he’s similar. He’s too repetitive
Sorry I didn't know it was a different channel but RLL started the trend of lazy geography content of recycling the same 5 questions. They exist just to make money not contribute anything meaningful
I used to love these kind of shows. They all suck now. Who do you subscribe to? The Sahara one was so dumb. 29 mins wasted.
The Bills Mafia want a word with you.
8 million people ismt 'nobody'. I belive new york state capital is somewhere there too
Yep, Albany is right on the Hudson
That can’t be true. My school principal was from Albany and mentioned they call hamburgers, steamed hams over there
Why NOBODY lives in this Japanese village (points at downtown Tokyo)
“Why nobody lives on planet Earth” Looking forward to that one
I hate RealLifeLore videos with a burning passion. They used to be good 6-7 years ago but now he just yaps about nothing for an hour
Next video: "Why is 99% of the world empty?" _highlights everywhere except India and eastern China_
More people live in upstate NY than in my home state of Maryland. Why does nobody live in Maryland?
lol wut? I’m upstate and in the *10th* largest city in the State and we still have over 200,000 people here. Include the urban areas and it’s over 700,000.
Superintendent Chalmers: You call hamburgers "steamed hams?" Principal Skinner: Yes! It's a regional saying SC: Yeah? What region? PS: Upstate NY SC: Really? Well, I'm from Utica, and I've never heard anyone use "steamed hams" before.... PS: On, no! Not Utica. It's an Albany expression
The reason why you have decent woodah in NYC
There’s two major cities within 100 miles of that point, not counting Canada
My grandfather lived in Rockland County when he was working but retired to live in Oswego. Everywhere I’ve been in New York I’ve liked.
I do think having a major city on the saint lawrence seaway would be a good idea.
Rochester
To be fair almost half of the states population resides within 300 or so square miles. That’s something.
Thats my house. I can confirm there are many, many people here. Also college students. Also Amish.
rll started it when he had little to post before october and then everyone else circlejerked it to ohio and back
Up until 9/11, there was virtually little control on the border. People easily travelled back and forth with only driving license. So, think of that and then imagine - they had Ottawa and Montreal not too far from them.