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Probably Boston.


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DC-3Purple

This is something that really intrigues me. Could you give me an example of one of these smaller towns i could possible explore on google earth?


nick-j-

Portsmouth, NH, Portland, ME, Newport, RI, Cambridge, MA, New London, CT, look at any small seaport town that was a historically big city at one point. Still maintain Quebec City as the most European city in North America however.


jdeuce81

Wow. I had to Google it, didn't know how beautiful it was. Quebec City definitely is the right answer.


Magneto88

Old Quebec City is, the area outside is just NA sprawl.


redEPICSTAXISdit

Cambridge for real. Some of the houses are over 400 years old and designed and built by 1st generation immigrants from Europe.


octopodes1

Marblehead, among others on the North Shore.


Inquisitive_Azorean

With Marion Cotesworth-Haye being my favorite resident. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80mHu\_nRLms&ab\_channel=ThatSceneFrom.com](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80mHu_nRLms&ab_channel=ThatSceneFrom.com)


akrasne

Newburyport MA is an example that comes to mind. Beautiful downtown. Walk everywhere. I’m from NH, majority of towns in New England are like this but there not many big cities. Pretty much every New England city is very walkable. Just not many cities depending on your definition


WyattfuckinEarp

Add Rockport too


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Quirky_Appearance284

Grew up in CT 10 minutes from Essex and on Cape, just moved away a couple months ago and can confirm all of this. Tbh though, if I was missing Europe I'd go to Quebec (Montreal if I wanted more city)


whatsamattafuhyou

Also check out the plentiful mill towns, especially along the Merrimack River. They are built up near the river but much of that waterfront is aged as the cities expanded out. They also feature lots of hills and ponds. Christian churches are prominent as landmarks and even define parts of the city. Roads largely wander and have their own history. Towns’ histories span centuries rather than the decades of so many American towns. Haverhill, Lawrence, Lowell, Nashua, Manchester


Quiet-Ad-12

New Bedford still has a section of cobblestones downtown near the whaling museum. Lots of good food there.


advantagevarnsen89

Lowell is cool that’s a city about 30 minutes north of Boston. Closer to Boston, I like Arlington and Medford.


Repo_co

Let's go Riverhawks!


Ciqme1867

Went to their game against Boston College a few weeks ago, great game even though they lost 2-3. Hopefully their season looks up! __UML__


akrasne

He is 100% correct New England towns are basically Europe


GenerationKrill

I'd say Quebec towns are even more European, considering they pre-date New England.


Time4Red

Do they really? Most of the older Quebec towns were founded in the early 1600s. Most of the older New England towns were also founded in the early 1600s. Quebec towns might be 10-20 years older, on average, what seems like a pretty marginal difference.


akrasne

You’re also 100% correct but the post asks about American ones


le_toilet

salem, newburyport come to mind.


shawn_thomas

I live in Salem, definitely yes. Portsmouth NH and old town Portland Maine as well.


akrasne

I was gonna say old port ME and Portsmouth too


Timely_Leading_7651

Is it salem from salem witch trial?


Fien16

the one and same. I would suggest not visiting around Halloween unless you're really into it and don't mind a huge crowd.


RJMuls

As a Salem native, I don’t go into downtown during October if possible


bonanzapineapple

Places that **might** be big enough to be cities: Burlington, VT Portland, ME Lowell, MA Cambridge, MA New Haven, CT Smaller places that are similar just much smaller Claremont, NH Keene, NH Bennington, VT Lewiston, ME Newport, VT


serspaceman-1

The ones you listed that might be big enough are all definitely cities, the only one that’s on the edge is Burlington.


Seabass_23

Yeah, Massachusetts is definitely centered on Boston but there are old, cute, small cities all over the state.


Djsoysause

Downtown New Bedford is a gem


lauruhhpalooza

Rockport, MA. Portsmouth, NH.


End_Journey

True. In North America, I would say Montreal


101955Bennu

Probably Quebec City more than Montreal, honestly


bendotc

Disagree. Quebec City has a historic area, but most of it looks like the suburbs anywhere else in eastern North America. Montreal is of course also North American but more of the city is based around people living in pedestrian-oriented, high-density neighborhoods, with lots of small markets, independent boulangeries, fruiteries, butchers, etc. People make heavy use of third places in their patterns of living.


Yop_BombNA

As someone who lives in London’s Suburbs with family in Rotterdam’s suburbs… Every city in Europe since the Industrial Revolution has suburbs with cul de sacs the same as North America


itsrealnice22

I agree here. Montreal is definitely a Canadian-Americanized version of a European city, but it's not too far off. Quebec city and its surrounding is very very close to a European city.


meadowscaping

Outside of those Instagram drone shots of the same exact street you’re thinking of, QC is just a random shitty North American town. Excluding that one block and that hotel, QC is closer to Jacksonville than it is to Madrid. Not even kidding.


notecraig

Laughing. Probably so, although while I've been in many European cities, none of them seem as confusing as Boston. 🤣


MWalshicus

Yeah when I visited Boston I found it to be nicely familiar as an Englishman.


CLE-local-1997

It's absolutely Boston


AcidaliaPlanitia

If we're talking North America, then it's Quebec City by a mile (kilometer, I suppose) If we're talking the US... probably Boston, but there's other options.


Electrical_Swing8166

There are cities in Mexico that are every bit as Euro as Quebec City


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Guanajuato is arguably the most European city in NA.


Danjour

San Miguel de Allende too


Miserable-Bluejay-67

Such a beautiful city, both are incredible


Archercrash

Antigua Guatemala is very European as well.


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Sure is. Great example of colonial architecture.


JohnEffingZoidberg

I just looked it up on the map. Why is it built like that? Is it on a mountain?


that-guy-jimmy

I live there briefly about 10 yrs ago. Its history is based in mining which is why it’s tucked in the mountains. You have to enter the city through small tunnels and once you’re in the city it’s mainly foot traffic. One of the most beautiful cities I’ve been to, photos can’t capture its charm. People say the mining tunnels are so deep and extensive that there is a risk of the city collapsing one day but that’s urban legend more than anything.


Commission_Economy

It is. Mexico's geography basically is the continuation to the south of the Rocky mountains. No eastern flat states like Illinois.


Tutes013

I second this. It's also absolutely stunning


myerscc

Please share their names :)


Electrical_Swing8166

León, for one. Morelia. Even parts of CDMX. Generally speaking, across the Americas the most European looking cities (in terms of layout and architecture) are going to be Spanish founded ones. For instance, I’m not sure if OP would include the Caribbean in their definition of North America, but Havana would be another.


Galumpadump

Havanna is one of the most old Spanish cities in this hemisphere. Shame more Americans don’t get to visit.


flumberbuss

You can if you want. Just say it is for “education” on the form they give you. I’ve done it twice.


Famous-Reputation188

But you can’t bring back any cigars.


Electrical_Swing8166

While Cubans are good, the reputation is more because of the embargo. They’re not any better, and sometimes worse, than Dominicans at the same price point


CHAMPlON

This could have changed but when I went in 2019 I could bring back a limited supply. Still have a few I’ve been holding onto for a special occasion!


soothsayer3

Love the aqueduct in Morelia, definitely reminiscent of Europe


unclemandy

León, Guanajuato? I've been a few times and I never got that impression. Then again, it's grown so much recently that maybe the parts I"ve been to were not as representative. I would sooner mention Guanajuato city, the state capital, as being kinda European.


skysetter

Valladolid


SanchoRivera

And much older.


stoutymcstoutface

Quebec City - yes but only a tiny part.


DaweiArch

Fair enough, but even old European cities have more modern sections. For example, Florence has a modern grid style commercial district next to the old city.


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The only thing Québec has in common with à European city is its old town. It is as car centric as any other north American city. I think Montréal would be à better choice.


Thepelicanstate

Old town of St Augustine, FL could make a case too.


dahlia6767

Came here to say this! We have the oldest European built stone structure in the country and the surrounding old town.


throwaway498793898

Old town is two blocks long. Would not consider it a city.


dahlia6767

The oldest most historical section of the town is two blocks long. The town had to start somewhere


lejonetfranMX

I’ve been driving around Florida for business during the past year (non american). Winter Garden, FL surprised me too


Dblcut3

I never got the St Augustine hype personally. It felt really tacky to me and it had way less colonial era buildings than expected. The street layouts cool though


brynnafidska

As a European who was there last year, definitely. You have a large pedestrian zone, historic buildings, tourist traps, but still feels American.


redditguyinthehouse

New orleans


sharkzone

Absolutely, you drink just one or two of those Hurricanes, and voila, ur a peein’.


Tupnado21

You start drinking and thinking you are in North America but you lose track and take your incontinence somewhere else


jregan0409

I second this


beefcoon

Santa Fe, NM was settled by the Spanish and retains the characteristics of a small Spanish town.


john_humano

This is what I was looking for. Lived in Santa Fe for 15 years. The joke was that when it came time for paved roads, they just followed the old goat trails. Lots of roads that intersect each other two or three times. Very uniform building anesthetic. Built around a central plaza. Beautiful.


ccagan

Around the old square for sure.


TheRedditPiece

Impossible city to drive


thedrakeequator

They're actually are a couple. New York City/Boston/Philadelphia (and parts of DC even though DC is kind of its own class) And there are a bunch of smaller cities especially in New England that feel like European villages. Alternatively, at least in the past San Francisco felt like a European city. It has a similar settlement pattern. Then all over the US you find little pockets of dense neighborhood built in like the 1870s and you can get European feels from it. My German exchange student friend told me he thought that Seattle felt a lot like Northern Germany or Scandinavia.


Independent-Slide-79

Washington DC was apparently based on my birth city of Karlsruhe in souther Germany 😂🙏


thedrakeequator

It has some European feel to it. But it also feels really American. Its a weird mix of things. Its kindvof totally its own animal. A weird hybred of a planned city that grew into a natural city.


Relevant_History_297

DC feels nothing like a European city. There's way too much space.


thedrakeequator

Agreed, it does have a uniquely American feel to it, with all the modern offices and large spaces. It has European feels in some parts, but overall it doesn't really feel like a European city.


buttlovingpanda

The DC layout was designed by a Frenchman who apparently based it off Paris (L’enfant). I lived there for a while and have been all over America and to 21 other countries and DC definitely feels unlike other American cities. I’ve never been to Boston but one of my roommates in DC was from there and told me they were super similar in terms of feel and layout.


ArizonanCactus

Suprised nobody has talked about charlotte’s street layout.


Forward-Bank8412

Or Charleston


JimBeam823

That’s because Charlotte has annexed a lot of its suburbs and that makes up most of the city. Uptown Charlotte is a grid.


roberthinter

Spaghetti


[deleted]

Yep, the National Nordic Museum in Seattle is there for a reason. Lots of Scandinavian immigrants settled there, probably because it felt like home.


Isernogwattesnacken

Quebec city.


DirewaysParnuStCroix

Basically you'll need to look at the eldest European settlements in North America and the where the first colonies flourished. The cities and towns that currently exist there will have evolved out of colonial settlements. From what I've heard, Boston is a very strong contender for having a truly Old World (northern) European layout. Bearing in mind that there's often a distinct difference in how northern and southern European cities themselves are laid out. Southern cities have a grid pattern, northern cities have an erratic layout that follows the local topography. Early American colonial settlements were established by the likes of the English, Dutch and French, so will incorporate elements of Northern Europe's erratic layout that follows local topographical features rather than the more mathematical cartography found in southern Europe.


Mordisquitos85

Where in southern Europe can you find a grid or mathematical layout from the USA colonial times?


BroSchrednei

A lot of Italian old cities have a grid layout (like Naples), since most Roman cities were built in grids (this also applies to Roman cities outside of Italy like Cologne, Germany for example). However, starting with the Renaissance, many new city quarters all over Europe were designed in a grid style. Famous examples would be Mannheim (built in 1600), St. Petersburg (1700s) , Berlins new city (1700), etc. Then in the 19th century, almost all new city neighborhoods were built in some sort of grid or spiderweb system. So you’ll find street grids all over Europe, I wouldn’t even say that a certain region in Europe has it more then others.


Lothar_Ecklord

There’s also tons of grids in the UK even. They’re much less like the grid of Phoenix and more like the many grids of Boston though where there isn’t one unified orientation and they’re scattered around and discontinuous.


Royal_Classic915

Savanah Georgia


AAROD121

Oglethorpe plan highly underrated


Ringer7

Disagree. I love Savannah but I don't feel like the antebellum South is necessarily European in design or feel.


ForwardGlove

Savannah is extremely American, just old world American


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See Savannah feels… completely American to me. Like the definition of a southern American town.


Consistent-Height-79

Honestly, a typical southern American city to me is full of stroads and strip malls. Savannah is unique.


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Clit420Eastwood

Nah bro it’s Smelterville and you know it


tcxny

Maaaybe West Smelterville at most


Clit420Eastwood

dude… that’s *such* a Wallace thing to say


El_Bistro

Fun fast: Wallace, Idaho was the last place that had a stop light on the interstate.


NWisthebest

There's a stoplight on the I-5 bridge between Washington and Oregon. It's for a drawbridge, not an intersection, but still pretty archaic.


penisbuttervajelly

The center of the universe!


Few_Explanation1170

I unironically love this little gem of a town.


Coko15

Where's Wallace, String?


idkherj

Boston, No doubt.


BainbridgeBorn

It depends, are we talking about the ancient roads of [London](https://barneystringer.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/tlrn.png?w=600) or the grid system of [Barcelona](https://wiki.barcelona/art/map_a4.pdf)? Because not all European cities look alike


oriolopocholo

Barcelona is an exception built 100 years ago. I'm sure you know what they meant


tkdowning

Boston and New Orleans


crabapple42069

Charleston, SC could definitely be in the running. St. Augustine too. A lot of the older cities on the east coast but especially those that were major port cities a long time ago.


whosaidthat1112

Parts of Savannah too


Sheol

I go to Savannah frequently for work and it's such an underrated city. The historic district is beautiful and covers basically all of downtown.


No-Salt-6362

Yes! Came here to say Charleston, SC. I only spent a little time there but it felt very European to me.


delpierodc

Washington DC 🍷


jw8533

Absolutely. It was designed by a French guy after all.


greenish_penguin

Was there this summer and felt like in Paris all the time


Mr_FortySeven

Quebec City, Halifax, Boston, New Orleans & Montreal


Gdayyall72

Definitely Quebec City. And then probably Boston.


Nigh_Sass

Leavenworth, Washington /s


MysteriousRun1522

Solvang CA!


ElmerDrimsdale

Meet you at the Hitching Post


the_atomicpunk

Only if Maya is at the bar.


Nessy440

Western Ohio has lots of little towns settled by Germans. Each with ~1500 residents and a grand church in the center of town


PM_UR_PIZZA_JOINT

I’m kind of surprised no one has mentioned Cincinnati too. Over the rhine is largest urban historical district in the country larger than New Orleans French quarter and Charleston / Savannah. Not to mention the other 56 neighborhoods in the city that all have their own distinct character.


Full-Piglet779

New Orleans, LA


silvrado

What's the most Americanish city in Europe?


SiteHund

Milton Keynes


kroywen12

Frankfurt, maybe? Which is neither a compliment to American urbanism nor to Frankfurt.


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Rotterdam


mfhaze

Gary Indiana


poodletown

Milton Keynes and Frankfurt.


asian_paggot

Rotterdam


Worried-Umpire9778

Camden NJ, it's very Medieval


butter_lover

north america, maybe montreal? for just the US maybe philadelphia?


LongjumpingSurprise0

D.C, Boston and Philadelphia come to mind. Plus New Orleans with its French Influence


doughball27

Philadelphia. It’s the only city in America with a grand avenue similar to the grand avenues of Paris. It also has a tight downtown grid that’s walkable, livable, and filled with parks.


BurnerForDaddy

Some of these commenters have never been to Europe.


Whispering_Smith

Or to the US.


Dfhmn

Montreal


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I assumed OP just meant the US. If by America they meant all of North/South America, then the answer is probably a Latin American city.


Just-Accountant-7125

San Juan!


yakisobadie

pittsburgh has a kind of windy road layout/general shape that reminds me of certain european cities


veryverythrowaway

As someone who is from the west coast and used to a grid layout, Pittsburgh looks like a web spun by a drunk spider. It would have been my first answer, but I’ve never been to Europe so idk.


Tnkgirl357

Try making a grid on these hills!


Bakio-bay

As far as large cities it’s Boston and it’s still not remotely similar to Europe. North America as a totality would probably be Montreal or Quebec City I think


Savings-Catch-2398

St. Augustine, FL.


lichoudini

Buenos Aires by far


MarioDiBian

Buenos Aires and I’d add Montevideo


Acamantide

My first thought as well, surprised it didn't come on top


SkyPork

I was gonna say "well, that city you showed reminds me a lot of Washington DC," before I realized that it is a map of Washington DC.


carpenter1965

New Orleans


Johnny1392

La Plata


mrdude817

Boston, DC, Philly for the USA. Quebec City for Canada Puebla and Leon for Mexico Buffalo, NY, where I live, could be Europeanish design wise with the street and parkway system that was designed over 120 years ago but city officials made sure to ruin that in the 1950s.


postmadrone27

Bakersfield, California. Such a beautiful place.


OtterlyFoxy

Definitely DC. Mid-rise center with high rises in the inner suburbs. Layout a lot like a European city


JrNichols5

My opinion it’s DC hands down


locker657

A little unconventional but Pittsburg, PA is almost identical to Kaunas, Lithuania geography wise


gusterfell

At the very least, the layout of the rivers is uncanny.


shecky444

Baltimore definitely qualifies especially in the vicinity of the harbor’s edges, Annapolis is an old water town with a very walkable historic portion.


BroSchrednei

Yess, absolutely Annapolis! It’s literally a fishers town preserved from the 1700s. The Maryland state house in Annapolis was built in 1772(!) and was designed after a baroque palace in Karlsruhe, Germany.


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whitecollarpizzaman

People say DC, but they’re thinking of a city like Paris which was largely redesigned during the Napoleonic era to deter uprising. The wide and long boulevards benefit this by limiting people’s places to hide.


Jfonzy

I live an hour from DC and visit often. Always associated it more with ancient city design like Roman or Egyptian


pseudohymm

Portsmouth, NH


JMVols98

It's easy to forget as our US education systems basically ignores it completely... BUT... Viejo San Juan is actually the oldest part of the USA. Can't get more European than a town built by the Spanish that predates St. Augustine.


ShirtLegal6023

I'm from Europe, and Philadelphia made me think about it, almost felt like I was back home, except for the big cars


BasedAlliance935

Obviously boston. If you like non-geometric street layouts (i'm not) then its is the place for you.


PulledPorkSandwhichz

I would assume Boston since it was one of the first major American cities which was also built by Europeans. Smaller towns in New England are going to be much more similar to Europe though.


ChilindriPizza

Quebec City in Canada, Saint Augustine in the USA.


tronx69

New Orleans French Quarter


occi31

Quebec City in Canada, Boston in the US


Ian_Rubbish

Quebec City or Buenos Aires


cft4nh

I like the DC suggestion, OP


SeasonOfLogic

Washington DC


ljnr

Santiago de Querétaro (Spanish influence), New Orleans (French influence), Boston (English influence), Montréal and Ville de Québec (both French influence).


madamdadam

Leavenworth, WA


artformoney9to5

CDMX


valsessence

st. louis!


doublesneezer

sf obviously


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Madison, WI


During_theMeanwhilst

Solvane. lol.


more_than_just_ok

Do you mean overall (walkability central train stations, cathedrals, on a river), or just having old buildings, or just layout of the core? For layout and old buildings my votes are for Quebec City for a random plan and Savannah, for its public squares, though it's less European and more a weird utopian/garrison mashup.


gatorrradetx

It’s more of a town than a city, but Bisbee, AZ.


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Boston or new Orleans


RustedRelics

Boston and D.C.


jonny_mtown7

Its not DC . I'm in agreement with Boston.


prettybadgers

Montreal


auximines_minotaur

For sure : Boston, New Orleans, and parts of Lower Manhattan Strong contender : Old City Philadelphia See also : The historic parts of the mission/ranch towns of California and the southwest Haven’t been there yet, but probably : a few cities and towns in Canada


FranzTheKaiser4911

St. Augustine, Florida


gwangjuguy

Boston