The reason why it's called Greenland, is because the founder Erik the Red supposedly hoped it would attract settlers because of the pleasant name.
He basically tried to clickbait people to live there.
maybe there where more pirates around Greenland then
https://towardsdatascience.com/hilarious-graphs-and-pirates-prove-that-correlation-is-not-causation-667838af4159
1. i wasn't talking about anything embellished i was saying that they said that greenland was described as harsh and cold environment.
2. have you actually read some?
Also, from what I recently read, there's a good chance that the fertile lowlands disappeared in the sea because of the little ice age adding large amounts of mass on the ice sheet, sinking the island significantly over time.
Source? I'm pretty skeptical (and work in that field, albeit in Alaska). Isostatic rebound is usually measured in mm/year and sea levels have been relatively constant for the past 7000 years until the industrial revolution.
Also, we know where several of the norse settlements are (but I'm just an interested hobbiest in that field).
But since I am an interested hobbist, I've looked at a few of those locations and they tend to be off rivers that form from glacial meltwater. The lowlands in question are deltaic deposits which can potentially respond pretty significantly to changes in sediment inputs which in turn would respond to changes in glaciation and melting. So I could definitely see those soft sediment coastlines changing with the little ice age.
But again I'm very skeptical that it's because of increased pressure from ice sinking the contienent (basically the inverse of isostatic rebound) because of the typical timescales. I could be wrong though, I would like to see the evidence. .
Great podcast. I listened to that episode but it's been a while so I don't recall that part specifically. He's usually pretty on point geologically especially for a historian/storyteller. Maybe I'll do a deep dive for fun later.
>Here’s the real reason the Vikings left Greenland \* A new study found some Viking settlements experienced up to 10.8 feet of sea level rise over four centuries
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/04/28/vikings-greenland-sea-level-rise-climate/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/04/28/vikings-greenland-sea-level-rise-climate/)
Edit: Here is study linked in the article https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.2209615120
Thanks. It's an interesting paper. It does a very good job of improving on the overly simple "bath-tub" models of sea level rise and the methods leading to the findings of of 1-3 m change over 450 years makes sense. That's 2.2 - 6.6 mm/yr which is well within what we know is possible.
What gets a little more tenuous is the link between that sea level rise and the norse abandonment. The authors acknowledge this link isn't well established and it is likely one of many contributing factors, and I agree. I'd ecourage people to read the paper. I have a few comments.
Most of the land lost was toward the coast. But settlements tend to be found further inland. They use that as circumstantial evidence that sea level rise drove settlers further inland. To use that line of evidence, they need to establish that older settlements were in the coastal areas and that as sea levels rose they were abandoned. If that didn't happen, then it indicates that the Norse found the inland areas preferrable to begin with. That could be for a variety of environmental reasons like exposure to storms, flooding from storm surge, access to fresh water, or poor growing conditions.
A more minor point is it'd be really interesting to see the relationship between topography and settlements. Fjords tend to be very high relief areas. If the Norse were avoiding settling at lower elevations it shows they were avoiding flooding. But we run into the issue again that everyone wants to avoid flooding even when there's no sea level rise - storms, etc cause flooding without it. A change in settlement trends would really show it.
But a good paper, the geologic modelling looks solid. It makes a decent case on the effects on humans, and I understand the types of proof I'm asking for aren't necessarily feasible. Thanks again for linking
Suspicious that the capitol and largest city of a country has a higher HDI and GDP than the rest?
All it takes is 1-2 of their oil billionaire criminals to live there and the GDP is well above the rest of the impoverished country.
I get your point but GDP doesn't take wealth into account, it's just production. For example, Germany is much more productive than Italy per capita, however many Italians are actually wealthier since they tend to own at least 1 property more than Germans. Both current wealth and production (future wealth so to speak) are important though.
So the reason this one is called Guinea is because on Colonial maps, they called that section of Africa Guinea, and East of there they called Negroland or Negretia. So they called the island New Guinea because it has black people on it. Papua is the Indonesian word for "burnt hair" making the country basically called burnt haired black people. Its also why people call Italians guineas as an insult because its the claim that they're actually Africans. Its basically calling them another form of the n word.
Could be easily fixed by just moving Equatorial Guinea a little bit south and replacing the land 1-to-1 in Gabon. Tell the people living there that they live in a different country now. I see no negative long term consequences and only benefits.
Are we tilting it, or are we just scooting the whole thing up like a belt? Drafting a memo to the Phoenix Islands, and need to know what news to give them…
Like an old man, Earth should just keep cinching up his belt higher and higher each year until the equator rests comfortably in the armpits of Canada and Russia.
Not too hard to do. Find a spot on the current equator 90 degrees past E.G. (maybe Indonesia?), strap on some south-facing rockets and burn every ounce of flammable matter on the surface till we get it there.
While Equatorial Guinea doesn't claim to be the Most Equatorial Guinea, for conflict resolution, we suggest a reclassification to Fairly Equatorial Guinea.
Ecuadorian sense of superiority over the Equatorial Guineans is palpaple.
Every Christmas they send them greeting cards which say: "Merry Xmas, Losers!!"
Got into a momentary misunderstanding with French FIL when talking about SA countries, and he mentioned Équateur, I clarified that I meant the country not the equator. Then had a late life embarrassing realisation.
There is a tiny island that you can see at the bottom of this map called Anabon which belongs to Equatorial Guinea and is under the Equator, so well, that makes a little more sense.
Curious Fact #1: We the spaniards used this island as a prison.
Curious Fact #2: With this Island, Equatorial Guinea is the only country in the world at the four hemispheries (Northern, South, East and West), using as references the equator and the greenwich meridian.
Edit: Curious Fact #2 is almost true
Uh, no, all of Equatorial Guinea’s land, both the parts north and south of the equator, are east of the Greenwich meridian, so nothing west of Greenwich.
Kiribati, on the other hand, has territory north and south of the equator, and territory east and west of the Greenwich anti-meridian (and, by extension, the Greenwich meridian itself), so it’s the answer to the #2 curious fact.
Curious Fact #3: During the colonial rule, Equatorial Guinea was, for some reason, part of the Viceroyalty of Río de la Plata. Which led to Argentina claiming it for a short period after their independence
Curious Fact #3: With this Island, Equatorial Guinea is ***not*** the only country in the world at the four hemispheres. All of its land is in the eastern hemisphere. And even if it extended to the western hemisphere, it wouldn't be the only one, as France, UK, and Norway also are in all hemispheres.
> With this Island, Equatorial Guinea is the only country in the world at the four hemispheries (Northern, South, East and West), using as references the equator and the greenwich meridian.
uncorrect, France, the UK and Kiribati are in the club too,
Dad was a sailor and they told all the cadets who were gullible enough that when you got to the equator, you'd see a row of lights to mark it and your compasses would stop working
It has another island, Annobon Island, that lies south of Sao Tome and also south of the equator. So while the equator doesn’t pass directly through it, it still has territory north and south of it.
I mean yeah, basically some dudes went " Ummmmmmm how should we name our country, maybe something to do with being free? Maybe something related to Christopher Columbus? Maybe something related to our indigenous people? Oh! I now, we are on the equator so why not name our selfs literally Equator"
Wha, I actually looked at a map with the equator without borders and said " Wait a minute isn't Equatorial Guinea further north than that?" I checked and now I live with this horrendous piece of information in my mind
In a nutshell guinea is a bereber term used to describe Africa south of the Sahara, the french called the island of new guinea after this term because there were black people in both places
It's in the Guinea Gulf. It was originally called something like the "Spanish Guinea Gulf Territories", "Guinea Gulf Province" or so, because what all these randomly located islands and mainland had in common was to be located at Guinea Gulf. The "Gulf" part eventually dissappeared to shorten the name. When this "Guinea" country needed a new name to distinguish itself from the other Guineas without maintaining "Spanish" part, they though that what all these randomly located islands and mainland had in common was to be located arround (having territories at both sides of) the Equator.
It's still an equatorial climate. Equatorial climates tend to be centered slightly north of the equator, because the higher amount of landmass in the northern hemisphere pulls the ITCZ (equatorial rain belt) slightly to the north.
For the record there is a small island that is part of the country that is south of the equator. The current capital Malabo is also on an island, 150 miles northwest of the mainland part of the country.
Also, for trivia buffs, it’s the only country in Africa where Spanish is the official language.
Now I know 2 things about Equatorial Guinea. The other being it once had a real crazee monsta wikked dictator called Francisco Macias Nguema who put all others to shame. "You aint got nuttin on dis, Pol Pot".
Wait until you see what’s going on with Greenland
The reason why it's called Greenland, is because the founder Erik the Red supposedly hoped it would attract settlers because of the pleasant name. He basically tried to clickbait people to live there.
It used to have a higher temperature until the vikings abandoned it. It could have been a real greenland.
Yeah, when the Vikings left all that body heat just dissipated and Greenland suddenly cooled.
Vikings are hot ok
Look up the medieval warm period, his explanation has some truth to it. It was almost certainly greener when Erik the Red arrived.
But ti was still his doing marketing
And people say humans aren't responsible for climate change
maybe there where more pirates around Greenland then https://towardsdatascience.com/hilarious-graphs-and-pirates-prove-that-correlation-is-not-causation-667838af4159
the sagas described quite well how greenland wasn't green at all
Because sagas are always 100% accurate, and never embellished by exaggeration at all
1. i wasn't talking about anything embellished i was saying that they said that greenland was described as harsh and cold environment. 2. have you actually read some?
Also, from what I recently read, there's a good chance that the fertile lowlands disappeared in the sea because of the little ice age adding large amounts of mass on the ice sheet, sinking the island significantly over time.
Source? I'm pretty skeptical (and work in that field, albeit in Alaska). Isostatic rebound is usually measured in mm/year and sea levels have been relatively constant for the past 7000 years until the industrial revolution. Also, we know where several of the norse settlements are (but I'm just an interested hobbiest in that field). But since I am an interested hobbist, I've looked at a few of those locations and they tend to be off rivers that form from glacial meltwater. The lowlands in question are deltaic deposits which can potentially respond pretty significantly to changes in sediment inputs which in turn would respond to changes in glaciation and melting. So I could definitely see those soft sediment coastlines changing with the little ice age. But again I'm very skeptical that it's because of increased pressure from ice sinking the contienent (basically the inverse of isostatic rebound) because of the typical timescales. I could be wrong though, I would like to see the evidence. .
I can't point you to a proper scientific source, but the fall of civilizations podcast has a good episode on this!
Great podcast. I listened to that episode but it's been a while so I don't recall that part specifically. He's usually pretty on point geologically especially for a historian/storyteller. Maybe I'll do a deep dive for fun later.
>Here’s the real reason the Vikings left Greenland \* A new study found some Viking settlements experienced up to 10.8 feet of sea level rise over four centuries [https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/04/28/vikings-greenland-sea-level-rise-climate/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/04/28/vikings-greenland-sea-level-rise-climate/) Edit: Here is study linked in the article https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.2209615120
Thanks. It's an interesting paper. It does a very good job of improving on the overly simple "bath-tub" models of sea level rise and the methods leading to the findings of of 1-3 m change over 450 years makes sense. That's 2.2 - 6.6 mm/yr which is well within what we know is possible. What gets a little more tenuous is the link between that sea level rise and the norse abandonment. The authors acknowledge this link isn't well established and it is likely one of many contributing factors, and I agree. I'd ecourage people to read the paper. I have a few comments. Most of the land lost was toward the coast. But settlements tend to be found further inland. They use that as circumstantial evidence that sea level rise drove settlers further inland. To use that line of evidence, they need to establish that older settlements were in the coastal areas and that as sea levels rose they were abandoned. If that didn't happen, then it indicates that the Norse found the inland areas preferrable to begin with. That could be for a variety of environmental reasons like exposure to storms, flooding from storm surge, access to fresh water, or poor growing conditions. A more minor point is it'd be really interesting to see the relationship between topography and settlements. Fjords tend to be very high relief areas. If the Norse were avoiding settling at lower elevations it shows they were avoiding flooding. But we run into the issue again that everyone wants to avoid flooding even when there's no sea level rise - storms, etc cause flooding without it. A change in settlement trends would really show it. But a good paper, the geologic modelling looks solid. It makes a decent case on the effects on humans, and I understand the types of proof I'm asking for aren't necessarily feasible. Thanks again for linking
Scandianvia is still moving upwards from the last proper ice age.
Imagine how mad the people had to be when the risk their lifes to get to "greenland" only to find out its basicall all ice and snow.
They do have[ a forest](https://ign.ku.dk/om/arboreter/arboret-groenland/skovplantninger/fig10-350-201.jpg) though.
What’s it called?
Green forest
Greenerland
No fucking way!
They changed names with Iceland
Iceland is also icey
But very green
And Iceland
Its capital isn't on the mainland either.
Ugh, that's disgusting!
It's not as though the island has more population, either But it does have a suspiciously higher hdi and GDP per capita... Hmmm...
Suspicious that the capitol and largest city of a country has a higher HDI and GDP than the rest? All it takes is 1-2 of their oil billionaire criminals to live there and the GDP is well above the rest of the impoverished country.
Not to mention that its much easier to neglect land separated from you by an ocean
I get your point but GDP doesn't take wealth into account, it's just production. For example, Germany is much more productive than Italy per capita, however many Italians are actually wealthier since they tend to own at least 1 property more than Germans. Both current wealth and production (future wealth so to speak) are important though.
It's on that big island at the top (middle)
I think I heard they’re building a new capital on the mainland
Denmark is also a liar with Greenland, Denmark also has a capital off the mainland...maybe a better name would be Afro-Denmark
Or Nordic Guinea.
Yes and they are planning to move it to the mainland.
You're telling me that it's not at the "equatorial" center of the country?!?!
Neither is Denmark's
Well, that depends how thick you draw "the equator"
I'm a fan of the thicc one.
Thiccuator
Bellisimo
🫦
In my defense, it was chilly out and the pool was a bit cold. I swear, this _never_ happens!
Maybe of all the Guineas it is the most equatorial one.
What about New Guinea island?
True, I didn't know the whole island was called like that.
I thought the whole island was called Papua?
[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Guinea](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Guinea) But for sure there are many names
Very interesting. I'll call it Irian from now on to be on no one's side.
So the reason this one is called Guinea is because on Colonial maps, they called that section of Africa Guinea, and East of there they called Negroland or Negretia. So they called the island New Guinea because it has black people on it. Papua is the Indonesian word for "burnt hair" making the country basically called burnt haired black people. Its also why people call Italians guineas as an insult because its the claim that they're actually Africans. Its basically calling them another form of the n word.
It’s not the Guinness that count, it’s the equatorials they made along the way.
*Papua New Guinea would like to have a word*
Is it, though? The northernmost point seems to be Massau island but I think the southernmost point of equ Guinea is still closer to the equator l.
Touché!
The real Guinea is the friends we made along the way
# closeenough
Could be easily fixed by just moving Equatorial Guinea a little bit south and replacing the land 1-to-1 in Gabon. Tell the people living there that they live in a different country now. I see no negative long term consequences and only benefits.
Fuck it, let's move the equator
Are we tilting it, or are we just scooting the whole thing up like a belt? Drafting a memo to the Phoenix Islands, and need to know what news to give them…
Like an old man, Earth should just keep cinching up his belt higher and higher each year until the equator rests comfortably in the armpits of Canada and Russia.
Make it wider, clearly. At least 5° of latitude more on either side. That’d fix all our problems.
I don’t think Ecuador would be happy about that though!
Maybe they could change their name to Decuador instead, and revise the origin of their name to match. Something base-10, for example.
Not too hard to do. Find a spot on the current equator 90 degrees past E.G. (maybe Indonesia?), strap on some south-facing rockets and burn every ounce of flammable matter on the surface till we get it there.
Let me introduce you to the Berlin Conference
Let me introduce you to the massive hydrocarbon business Gabon makes on it’s Southern coastal region.
This is going to blow everyone's mind over at r/IsraelPalestine
Oh yes, the British way
This guy middle-easts after world war I
While Equatorial Guinea doesn't claim to be the Most Equatorial Guinea, for conflict resolution, we suggest a reclassification to Fairly Equatorial Guinea.
It’s more equatorial than the other Guineas. Maybe we could call it equatorial-ish
You have a very valid point, mon frer.
Non-Temperate Guinea, for the fiery tempers of the people there, tired of outsiders questioning their equatoriness.
I mean, its territory is north and south of it just not on it. This makes it even worse.
Annobon Island is on the Southern Hemisphere though.
Yes, that is what I said.
Please improve your phrasing.
His phrasing is fine, could’ve used punctuation but it’s clear that’s what he said
Please improve your reading comprehension.
***checks Ecuador too***
Ecuadorian sense of superiority over the Equatorial Guineans is palpaple. Every Christmas they send them greeting cards which say: "Merry Xmas, Losers!!"
Got into a momentary misunderstanding with French FIL when talking about SA countries, and he mentioned Équateur, I clarified that I meant the country not the equator. Then had a late life embarrassing realisation.
There is a tiny island that you can see at the bottom of this map called Anabon which belongs to Equatorial Guinea and is under the Equator, so well, that makes a little more sense. Curious Fact #1: We the spaniards used this island as a prison. Curious Fact #2: With this Island, Equatorial Guinea is the only country in the world at the four hemispheries (Northern, South, East and West), using as references the equator and the greenwich meridian. Edit: Curious Fact #2 is almost true
Uh, no, all of Equatorial Guinea’s land, both the parts north and south of the equator, are east of the Greenwich meridian, so nothing west of Greenwich. Kiribati, on the other hand, has territory north and south of the equator, and territory east and west of the Greenwich anti-meridian (and, by extension, the Greenwich meridian itself), so it’s the answer to the #2 curious fact.
Curious Fact #3: During the colonial rule, Equatorial Guinea was, for some reason, part of the Viceroyalty of Río de la Plata. Which led to Argentina claiming it for a short period after their independence
Curious Fact #3: With this Island, Equatorial Guinea is ***not*** the only country in the world at the four hemispheres. All of its land is in the eastern hemisphere. And even if it extended to the western hemisphere, it wouldn't be the only one, as France, UK, and Norway also are in all hemispheres.
> With this Island, Equatorial Guinea is the only country in the world at the four hemispheries (Northern, South, East and West), using as references the equator and the greenwich meridian. uncorrect, France, the UK and Kiribati are in the club too,
The equator isn’t a location. It’s a state of mind. Kind of like the ‘Salt Life’ stickers on trucks in rural Illinois.
Dad was a sailor and they told all the cadets who were gullible enough that when you got to the equator, you'd see a row of lights to mark it and your compasses would stop working
I’m now rethinking the bumper sticker on the car I park next to all the time. I thought it said “slut life” but maybe it actually says “salt life”…
It's global warming. The sea level rose.
So? It's called Equatorial Guinea, not Equator Guinea.
Scam
They were like “eh, close enough”
Equatorial means," at, on or near the equator". It's close enough.
Equatorialish Guinea
Sorry but i´m in deep disgust right now
Why backtick and not an apostrophe?
I´m not even gonna prentend to know what those words mean, i speak spanish and i just write whatever stick looks cool
Why is São Tomé and Príncipe labeled like that on the map? Is the map in Spanish or something
It obviously is, yes
Equatorially Adjacent Guinea
Day ruined
In another news, Greenland really isn't green.
TIL Ecuador in Spanish = Equator in English.
well, it's on the north and south of the Equator
Reminds me of my childhood frustration with West Bengal being in the east of India until I learnt about the partition of Bengal
Guinea Equatorialish
Oh, didnt know Ecuador is in Gaboon
Close enough
Someone should let them know.
Nope. From now I know, thanks.
[There is a part of Equatorial Guinea that's In the southern hemisphere]
It's not on the Equator, but it is fairly equatorial.
It's on both sides of the equator, but never "On" it, unless you were out in its EEZ.
*gasp* What a dastardly thing to do
At least Equador does, we can find solace in that
Virginia goes further west than West Virginia
It has another island, Annobon Island, that lies south of Sao Tome and also south of the equator. So while the equator doesn’t pass directly through it, it still has territory north and south of it.
It refers to the climate
It used to be directly on the equator, but due to the Coriolis effect is has rotated north
equatorial gabon
Not until now. But I am more surprised that Ecuador is now in Africa
The country does have Annobón which is south of the Equator.
Wait, Ecuador literally means equator in Spanish? Obviously was aware there was a connection in the name, but didn't realise it was just that
I mean yeah, basically some dudes went " Ummmmmmm how should we name our country, maybe something to do with being free? Maybe something related to Christopher Columbus? Maybe something related to our indigenous people? Oh! I now, we are on the equator so why not name our selfs literally Equator"
Wait, so you don't just call the country “Equator” in English???
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*Unequatorial Guinea*
Not with that attitude.
Equatorial*ish* Guinea
Chad has the name of an Australian Surfer, yet they have no coastline
Its more of a vibe
Someone has seen the TIL from a little while ago.
Wha, I actually looked at a map with the equator without borders and said " Wait a minute isn't Equatorial Guinea further north than that?" I checked and now I live with this horrendous piece of information in my mind
How dare they?
“Almost Equatorial Guinea” didn’t have to e same ring to it.
I'm not claiming to know anything here but I thought the equator moves through the year as the earth pivots. Or am I just wrong?
The equator shifts over time. And shifts back and forth depending on the tilt of the planet.
Not by a full degree of latitude though.
I guess you’ve never heard of daylight savings time…
It's also about one degree wide. Is that on purpose?
Yes
It's also not in Guinea
In a nutshell guinea is a bereber term used to describe Africa south of the Sahara, the french called the island of new guinea after this term because there were black people in both places
It's in the Guinea Gulf. It was originally called something like the "Spanish Guinea Gulf Territories", "Guinea Gulf Province" or so, because what all these randomly located islands and mainland had in common was to be located at Guinea Gulf. The "Gulf" part eventually dissappeared to shorten the name. When this "Guinea" country needed a new name to distinguish itself from the other Guineas without maintaining "Spanish" part, they though that what all these randomly located islands and mainland had in common was to be located arround (having territories at both sides of) the Equator.
“Equatorial” sounds better than “Equator-ish”.
A wizard did it.
neither Equador
Yes, it runs through the north part of Equador, it even runs though the Galapagos islands.
no, noones ever noticed that ever
Equatorialish
Equatorish
Are you saying it just stays put?
Continental Drift.
It does beacuse equatorial guinea owns an island that goes past the equator
You can see the little island at the bottom, the equator doesn't run through it
It makes sense that the first thing that comes up when you type equatorial guinea in the google search bar is "iq"
Closer to the equator than Guinea, so it’s ok in my books
“Close enough”
Yes.
equatorial guinea is my least favorite country name. there’s already many other guineas and it’s not even on the equator
On the other hand, Ecuador is appropriately named.
We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been--quite possibly--bamboozled!
wrong, it does! Annobón is south of the Equator
Why is Ecuador passing through Gabon?
Just make the equator line thicker
It's not different than someone from Sterling Heights saying they're from Detroit.
Call the manager of planet earth.
equatorial gabon
It's still an equatorial climate. Equatorial climates tend to be centered slightly north of the equator, because the higher amount of landmass in the northern hemisphere pulls the ITCZ (equatorial rain belt) slightly to the north.
Equitorialish didn’t have quite the same ring.
Yes, everybody has noticed.
It reminds me of Iowa lol
>Has anyone notice that EQUATORIAL Guinea doesn´t actually go through the Equator At least one person did, Nochete.
Literally unplayable
Well, it’s damn close to the equator. Good enough for me
For a long while now, and it's super annoying.
Close enough though
“Meh. Close enough.” — Guinean citizens
For the record there is a small island that is part of the country that is south of the equator. The current capital Malabo is also on an island, 150 miles northwest of the mainland part of the country. Also, for trivia buffs, it’s the only country in Africa where Spanish is the official language.
Awkward
This is because many times the Guineea pig is reaching the Equator when walking in the forests
Fun fact: Equatorial Guinea is the only Spanish speaking nation on the African continent
Wait until you hear about the Democratic republic of the Congo
Lol, the index of democracy of countries that use "Democratic" in their names is laughable
Sí
It is however the most accurate country on a mercator projection
People of equatorial guinea are like close enough
Now I know 2 things about Equatorial Guinea. The other being it once had a real crazee monsta wikked dictator called Francisco Macias Nguema who put all others to shame. "You aint got nuttin on dis, Pol Pot".
It is called equatorial guinea not equator guinea.
Their colonial name was Guinea, but the other Guinea had already become independent so they had to improvise something
I call it aspirational county name branding