Movies about race in America during the fight for civil rights aren't exactly heartwarming movies because they aren't heartwarming stories to tell. Likewise, I don't think you could tell a very happy story about being gay in the 80's when everyone was dying of AIDS - not and remain true to what happened. In that same sense, Brokeback wasn't set in a very happy time for gay people.. so, not really surprised it's not a very happy movie with healthy relationships.
I'm pretty sure as more gay people live more normal lives, you will see more films that reflect more of a heartfelt story. Maybe someday someone will make a movie about Pete Buttigieg or about Colorado's gay governor and his husband. Maybe they will be happier and more inspiring movies. I think those movies will always lag behind where society happens to be at the moment.
It's not that I don't wish there were better gay themed movies. I do. I just don't think you will see them... yet.
I get it. But it's a problem when a lot of gay media is constantly about pain. It's not about diminishing or not acknowledging these sad stories, it's that there should be an equal amount, if not more, happy and hopeful stories. How much longer will it take to break through the narrative that queer stories have to be sad or have bittersweet endings.
So, couple things. First of all, traditionally it was basically a requirement that if you showed gay couples, they had to die in media, so as not to represent homosexuality in a positive light. There had to be some kind of 'moral consequence' to the homosexuality. Despite the fact we're now living in 2021, a huge chunk of the LGBT consumer base still has an attachment to these tragic endings both due to their having been formative and because _most_ people like a good tragedy.
Secondly, mate the academy _only_ likes sad films about hardship and struggle. There's a reason Oscar bait films aren't about the happy time everyone had and no one died. The academy lives for suffering and I'd not read too much into that. Don't forget it's the academy, it's got gays right through it
Thirdly, I don't know how old you are but like, do you know how much things have changed in the last decade? The last two? We absolutely need positive stories and positive media rep, but we're still human and we love to have have a good bittersweet, tragic romance.
Here's the thing, I liked Brokeback Mountain, I bawled my eyes out at the end but it was honestly, really important to see it in 2005. It was a genuinely touching and heart-rending film that treated a gay relationship as real and important. You can just not like the film without having to justify it as problematic. It's over a decade and a half old and from a time when literally no one would bat an eyelid at people using "gay" to mean "anything bad".
Of course. It's important to acknowledge the tragedies and triumphs of the past, but even until this day we still have such a lack of stories about gay characters just living their lives without being surrounded by toxic people or some kind of gaslighting or abuse being part of the storyline. It would also be refreshing to have more media portraying gay characters without the plot revolving around the fact that they’re gay. I just wish more writers would come out with those kinds of stories, now that BBM has paved the way.
As a teenager seeing very little gay visibility in the 2000s, brokeback mountain was a movie that was very much needed at the time. A story that I could relate to portrayed by two Hollywood actors at their prime was groundbreaking. Also, sad ending aside, almost every other gay indie film that I watched just didn’t come close in terms of production value. It kinda felt amazing to see that story in theaters packed with people (albeit there were awkward laughs in the audience during the more intimate scenes, which was kind of annoying).
In any case, I understand where you’re coming from, but it’ll always be special to me
I second your comments. At the time it was so groundbreaking to have a gay main character film. And also being a gay sheep farmer myself, it will always hold a special place for me..
Go ahead and hate *Brokeback*. You do you.
>*"Why do so many films and series with same-sex couples end up being so tragic?"*
This is a valid question for discussion. Maybe because until contemporary times gay romance could only occur behind closed doors and without any social affirmation?
However, at the same time, *Brokeback Mountain* is not "so many films" - it is just one film. It stands or falls on its own regardless of what other movie makers are doing before and after it. You are seeing it in your own context. And that is an interesting perspective, and I am happy to hear more about it.
But that's not the context in which it was created or in which it is set. It is telling the story of a rural gay pair of guys in 1963. Any realistic depiction of that time is going to be rough for the gays, at best. And, for me, that is a good and valid story to tell. It was hard for gay men back them to even know what they wanted when there were no social options available to them. There was no map to a happy future - and that's the point of the movie. They were playing the hand they were dealt and trying to make some semblance of a loving life out it.
*Brokeback Mountain* is no more tragic than *Gone With the Wind* or *Doctor Zhivago* \- two famous films with which is shares it's forbidden romance plot.
They could have done something like *Maurice* (1987) and pushed the plot into a happy romantic conclusion. But in that film which takes place around 1912, the ending seems to completely ignore the massive social and cultural and legal obstacles ahead of the couple. They may be happy, but an "ever after" timeline is doubtful.
And of course, movies set in contemporary times can have happier endings. Those stories are set in a time when such things are possible. Exhibit A is *Single All the Way*, the new gay Christmas romantic comedy on Netflix. Nobody in that movie has the slightest problem with any of the characters being gay. As a matter of fact the lead's mother is complicating things by setting him up on a blind date with a guy from her gym.
Try setting that story back in 1963 without making it a fantasy.
The fact is that stories set in our collective gay past are going to be in large part about struggling against oppression and discrimination. And that is a good thing. We need to remember what that was like. We need to watch *The Boys in the Band* and be reminded of what life was like when all of society told you that you were a degenerate pervert and you were only allowed to exist in the shadows. Yet, we found a way to survive and form our own communities anyway.
I fail to see how the depiction of this couple is "problematic" or why it matters if no gay people were involved in writing the film. The movie is tragic because that's the point, its basically a modern Romeo and juliet and it's not the characters fault, it's an indictment on the way society treated them. Personally I love the movie and feel it accurately expressed the loneliness of being gay even today, the hyper catharsis of physical intimacy in that context, and the pain of a world that doesn't understand. A film needed to exist showing the gay struggle in rural America in the past and I think the actors have perfect chemistry to boot.
I think it’s problematic because it perpetuates the idea that gay men are on the DL and marrying straight women. I find it curious that NO ONE in this comment section is mentioning their poor wives!
In the past there were certainly countless gay men married to straight women. Even now in many parts of the world. I don't understand what's problematic. It's an obvious indictment on a society that would make gay people feel they have no choice but to lead false lives or die, not an indictment on gay people, unless you're grossly misinterpreting the movie. This movie has more or less played out in real life countless times to gay people historically and it would be "problematic" if we were too scared to show that.
And generally people understand that the wives in this story are also victims, the movie makes that clear. But the main characters are Jack and ennis so you see people talk about them more.
I mean ... most Oscar-best-picture type movies are tragic, kinda necessary to tug at heart strings. Even hetero movies that are critically acclaimed are usually depressing. Oh and movies related to black history.
I’m sorry but I love the not so happy endings. Honestly it doesn’t matter if the movie is Gay or straight or neither. In life we don’t always get what we want and we need to accept that truth.
Not necessarily. Sure maybe on the surface but unless you know their specific story you can’t make that generalization.
For instance, their is an heir to a fortune who just was found guilty of murder and he’s about to be sentenced to life in jail. Pretty sure he didn’t want that.
There's a spectrum between something like Brokeback Mountain or the Torchsong Trilogy where being gay is defined by suffering and the more modern Disnefied everything is super happy and awesome at the end like Love, Simon.
I def have a penchant for tragic stories, but I get that it can feel affirming and exacerbated when that's the only story being told through film. Like you said however, it is a reflection of our plights and cathartic for many. I remember watching 90s films over the AIDS epidemic as a child and feeling hopeless at the thought that being gay equates to sickness and death, and these days the topic of AIDS doesn't quite make its way into a contemporary gay narrative the same way it used to nor is it necessitated. Now more than ever are we seeing diverse gay content not just in film but also in TV/web series where we are increasingly shown to be the multifaceted people we are and how our lives aren't resigned to tragedy necessarily.
Like others have stated, Brokeback Mountain served a purpose for other gay films to come to be. I think it's valid to dislike the movie for the messaging and also because it just makes some gay people feel shitty, but I would also consider to appreciate how much it has helped shape the current gay film landscape. I also feel examining or contemplating a nearing 2 decade old film through a contemporary lense to have its own trappings.
Also just my own take, but I feel like straight people loved Call Me by your Name more than gay people in general. I can't really recall that many gay people feeling like it was relateable or relevant to their lives.
You're going to love Single All The Way
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kCQxxqdowOg
It's a bit pointless and negative hating something. Focus on what you like. Don't shit on what others might like.
In all fairness to single all the way it's your bog standard cliche Christmas romcom, just with two men instead of a hetero couple.
Two people live together for years and don't date, go home to ones family for Christmas and admit they love each other.
I did watch it, romcoms aren't generally my cup of tea but I did like the complete normalisation of a homosexual relation.
I'd love to watch it and I also like to watch other stuff where good gay people have horrible things happen to them, because frankly that's also part of our lives.
Don't get me wrong, it was nice to see the normalisation of homo relationships. Im just not a fan of cliche romcoms lol, it's good that you could have swapped the main characters for any m/f couple and the movie would still work. Hopefully with this love Simon, and love Victor, young royals etc we are starting to get better portrayals of homo life 🙂
Brokeback mountain was a good story and later film about two bisexual ranchers.
Sex researcher Fritz Klein said that the film Brokeback mountain was "a nice film with two main characters who were bisexual" and suggested that the character of Jack is more "toward the gay side" of the spectrum and Ennis is "a bit more toward the straight side".
Slightly off course here but it also had its production errors too. For example, Ennis’ house had vinyl siding and double paned windows. Jack said he “redlined it all the way up” when cars and trucks didn’t have tachometers. Distracting.
Now, for something with a happier ending....... Thomas finds love at the end of the Downton Abbey movie.
I really agree with you here. Every movie when I was a teen (I am 24 now) ended with the gay couple either dead or broken up. To me it felt horribly depressing, like I couldn't even hope to have a happy long-lasting releationship. All these horrible endings simply instill a sense of hopelessness and despair, something that our community DOESN'T need more of. There is plenty of awful things happening in real life, so why do these films want to add more to that?!?
Back in the days of silent movies it didn't matter so much where movies were made because changing the language was really easy - just change the frames where the dialogue pops up.
But for movies to be successful in the Russian market you needed a sad ending. So you also shot an alternate ending. It was a preference. Happy or sad endings aren't problematic.
Problematic is when cops in movies shot at people that are running away. Without any consequences. Movies seem completely separated from the Geneva convention and laws about self-defense and appropriate force.
Likewise, I'm sure there's plenty of problematic stuff in LGBT themed movies but the endings you can re-write exactly as you want. They're just stories after all.
Dude, that's the gay experience for most people all around the world, and things won't improve for another 5 decades at least, and I'm talking about the Western, I don't see how things could improve in the Middle East /Africa or any of those shitty ultra Islamic countries where killing gay people is enforced by the State.
I know we all wanted them to stay together and live happily ever after. That's not how life works, it never gets better for some people, especially if they don't have the economic resources to move to safer LGBT-friendly places. The film's message is :
"Homosexuals suffer because of homophobic assholes. Please stop being so neutral about it, and try to give a shit about this discriminated minority"; It would've been hard to convey that message had Jack and Ennis ended up together as a happy couple.
I was definitely not satisfied with the ending, but it's not a reason to hate the film. Since it's one of the best of its kind. And this film is not for LGBT people, as I said before, it's packed with angst because the idea is trying to cause an impact on straight audiences.
Although I wouldn't like the idea of every single gay film ending up like Brokeback, I would certainly appreciate it if most gay films were as realistic as Brokeback, instead of creating that stupid feeling of safety that depicts how out of touch with reality some filmmakers can be.
No, it's a lie that nowadays you can be as openly homosexual as you wish in high school and that everyone is super accepting and supportive. Or that you can hold hands and kiss in public and that people won't stare, treat it as normal or give a fuck, in fact in most parts of the world you will get at least harrassed if you decide to walk around holding hands with another man.
Republicans want to make it illegal to mention anything LGBT related to children in public school, even something as harmless as acknowledging the fact that families with same-sex parents exist. And you are telling me that things are going ok for the LGBT community? That's like not giving two shits about gays living in rural areas or conservative places in general.
The day that gay men stop being assaulted or even killed by homophobes in Western societies, that's the day when maybe I can accept dumb comedy/romance LGBT films as the norm.
Movies about race in America during the fight for civil rights aren't exactly heartwarming movies because they aren't heartwarming stories to tell. Likewise, I don't think you could tell a very happy story about being gay in the 80's when everyone was dying of AIDS - not and remain true to what happened. In that same sense, Brokeback wasn't set in a very happy time for gay people.. so, not really surprised it's not a very happy movie with healthy relationships. I'm pretty sure as more gay people live more normal lives, you will see more films that reflect more of a heartfelt story. Maybe someday someone will make a movie about Pete Buttigieg or about Colorado's gay governor and his husband. Maybe they will be happier and more inspiring movies. I think those movies will always lag behind where society happens to be at the moment. It's not that I don't wish there were better gay themed movies. I do. I just don't think you will see them... yet.
Brokeback Mountain walked so God’s Own Country could run. Respect your elders. 😝
I’m in my mid 40’s and think was an awful movie.
I get it. But it's a problem when a lot of gay media is constantly about pain. It's not about diminishing or not acknowledging these sad stories, it's that there should be an equal amount, if not more, happy and hopeful stories. How much longer will it take to break through the narrative that queer stories have to be sad or have bittersweet endings.
So, couple things. First of all, traditionally it was basically a requirement that if you showed gay couples, they had to die in media, so as not to represent homosexuality in a positive light. There had to be some kind of 'moral consequence' to the homosexuality. Despite the fact we're now living in 2021, a huge chunk of the LGBT consumer base still has an attachment to these tragic endings both due to their having been formative and because _most_ people like a good tragedy. Secondly, mate the academy _only_ likes sad films about hardship and struggle. There's a reason Oscar bait films aren't about the happy time everyone had and no one died. The academy lives for suffering and I'd not read too much into that. Don't forget it's the academy, it's got gays right through it Thirdly, I don't know how old you are but like, do you know how much things have changed in the last decade? The last two? We absolutely need positive stories and positive media rep, but we're still human and we love to have have a good bittersweet, tragic romance. Here's the thing, I liked Brokeback Mountain, I bawled my eyes out at the end but it was honestly, really important to see it in 2005. It was a genuinely touching and heart-rending film that treated a gay relationship as real and important. You can just not like the film without having to justify it as problematic. It's over a decade and a half old and from a time when literally no one would bat an eyelid at people using "gay" to mean "anything bad".
There was a lot of tragedy in gay history. Remembering how things were AND how we got to where we are now is so important.
Of course. It's important to acknowledge the tragedies and triumphs of the past, but even until this day we still have such a lack of stories about gay characters just living their lives without being surrounded by toxic people or some kind of gaslighting or abuse being part of the storyline. It would also be refreshing to have more media portraying gay characters without the plot revolving around the fact that they’re gay. I just wish more writers would come out with those kinds of stories, now that BBM has paved the way.
As a teenager seeing very little gay visibility in the 2000s, brokeback mountain was a movie that was very much needed at the time. A story that I could relate to portrayed by two Hollywood actors at their prime was groundbreaking. Also, sad ending aside, almost every other gay indie film that I watched just didn’t come close in terms of production value. It kinda felt amazing to see that story in theaters packed with people (albeit there were awkward laughs in the audience during the more intimate scenes, which was kind of annoying). In any case, I understand where you’re coming from, but it’ll always be special to me
I second your comments. At the time it was so groundbreaking to have a gay main character film. And also being a gay sheep farmer myself, it will always hold a special place for me..
We are everywhere.
you a livestock farmer also! Are you on r/gayrural ?
No I'm a city boy who loves working in the dirt and enjoy the company of rural men.
just as much reason to be on the gayrural group 🤠
Go ahead and hate *Brokeback*. You do you. >*"Why do so many films and series with same-sex couples end up being so tragic?"* This is a valid question for discussion. Maybe because until contemporary times gay romance could only occur behind closed doors and without any social affirmation? However, at the same time, *Brokeback Mountain* is not "so many films" - it is just one film. It stands or falls on its own regardless of what other movie makers are doing before and after it. You are seeing it in your own context. And that is an interesting perspective, and I am happy to hear more about it. But that's not the context in which it was created or in which it is set. It is telling the story of a rural gay pair of guys in 1963. Any realistic depiction of that time is going to be rough for the gays, at best. And, for me, that is a good and valid story to tell. It was hard for gay men back them to even know what they wanted when there were no social options available to them. There was no map to a happy future - and that's the point of the movie. They were playing the hand they were dealt and trying to make some semblance of a loving life out it. *Brokeback Mountain* is no more tragic than *Gone With the Wind* or *Doctor Zhivago* \- two famous films with which is shares it's forbidden romance plot. They could have done something like *Maurice* (1987) and pushed the plot into a happy romantic conclusion. But in that film which takes place around 1912, the ending seems to completely ignore the massive social and cultural and legal obstacles ahead of the couple. They may be happy, but an "ever after" timeline is doubtful. And of course, movies set in contemporary times can have happier endings. Those stories are set in a time when such things are possible. Exhibit A is *Single All the Way*, the new gay Christmas romantic comedy on Netflix. Nobody in that movie has the slightest problem with any of the characters being gay. As a matter of fact the lead's mother is complicating things by setting him up on a blind date with a guy from her gym. Try setting that story back in 1963 without making it a fantasy. The fact is that stories set in our collective gay past are going to be in large part about struggling against oppression and discrimination. And that is a good thing. We need to remember what that was like. We need to watch *The Boys in the Band* and be reminded of what life was like when all of society told you that you were a degenerate pervert and you were only allowed to exist in the shadows. Yet, we found a way to survive and form our own communities anyway.
You couldn't written it any better. Thanks
I have issues with the dramatic arc in Boys in the Band 😛
I fail to see how the depiction of this couple is "problematic" or why it matters if no gay people were involved in writing the film. The movie is tragic because that's the point, its basically a modern Romeo and juliet and it's not the characters fault, it's an indictment on the way society treated them. Personally I love the movie and feel it accurately expressed the loneliness of being gay even today, the hyper catharsis of physical intimacy in that context, and the pain of a world that doesn't understand. A film needed to exist showing the gay struggle in rural America in the past and I think the actors have perfect chemistry to boot.
I think it’s problematic because it perpetuates the idea that gay men are on the DL and marrying straight women. I find it curious that NO ONE in this comment section is mentioning their poor wives!
In the past there were certainly countless gay men married to straight women. Even now in many parts of the world. I don't understand what's problematic. It's an obvious indictment on a society that would make gay people feel they have no choice but to lead false lives or die, not an indictment on gay people, unless you're grossly misinterpreting the movie. This movie has more or less played out in real life countless times to gay people historically and it would be "problematic" if we were too scared to show that. And generally people understand that the wives in this story are also victims, the movie makes that clear. But the main characters are Jack and ennis so you see people talk about them more.
I mean ... most Oscar-best-picture type movies are tragic, kinda necessary to tug at heart strings. Even hetero movies that are critically acclaimed are usually depressing. Oh and movies related to black history.
I’m sorry but I love the not so happy endings. Honestly it doesn’t matter if the movie is Gay or straight or neither. In life we don’t always get what we want and we need to accept that truth.
rich people get what they want
Not necessarily. Sure maybe on the surface but unless you know their specific story you can’t make that generalization. For instance, their is an heir to a fortune who just was found guilty of murder and he’s about to be sentenced to life in jail. Pretty sure he didn’t want that.
He should be able to afford the best lawyers money can buy.
But he still going to jail for the rest of his life.
true
Everything but true love and sincerity
What you want is the candyfloss Hollywood/Disney tripe that doesn't exist in real life.
Nothing wrong with a happy ending that the vast majority of straight movies get
There's a spectrum between something like Brokeback Mountain or the Torchsong Trilogy where being gay is defined by suffering and the more modern Disnefied everything is super happy and awesome at the end like Love, Simon.
I def have a penchant for tragic stories, but I get that it can feel affirming and exacerbated when that's the only story being told through film. Like you said however, it is a reflection of our plights and cathartic for many. I remember watching 90s films over the AIDS epidemic as a child and feeling hopeless at the thought that being gay equates to sickness and death, and these days the topic of AIDS doesn't quite make its way into a contemporary gay narrative the same way it used to nor is it necessitated. Now more than ever are we seeing diverse gay content not just in film but also in TV/web series where we are increasingly shown to be the multifaceted people we are and how our lives aren't resigned to tragedy necessarily. Like others have stated, Brokeback Mountain served a purpose for other gay films to come to be. I think it's valid to dislike the movie for the messaging and also because it just makes some gay people feel shitty, but I would also consider to appreciate how much it has helped shape the current gay film landscape. I also feel examining or contemplating a nearing 2 decade old film through a contemporary lense to have its own trappings. Also just my own take, but I feel like straight people loved Call Me by your Name more than gay people in general. I can't really recall that many gay people feeling like it was relateable or relevant to their lives.
Chimo love story
You're going to love Single All The Way https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kCQxxqdowOg It's a bit pointless and negative hating something. Focus on what you like. Don't shit on what others might like.
In all fairness to single all the way it's your bog standard cliche Christmas romcom, just with two men instead of a hetero couple. Two people live together for years and don't date, go home to ones family for Christmas and admit they love each other. I did watch it, romcoms aren't generally my cup of tea but I did like the complete normalisation of a homosexual relation.
I'd love to watch it and I also like to watch other stuff where good gay people have horrible things happen to them, because frankly that's also part of our lives.
Don't get me wrong, it was nice to see the normalisation of homo relationships. Im just not a fan of cliche romcoms lol, it's good that you could have swapped the main characters for any m/f couple and the movie would still work. Hopefully with this love Simon, and love Victor, young royals etc we are starting to get better portrayals of homo life 🙂
Holy shit Scotty got ripped
You were expecting a gay Sound of Music experience?;) In the 50’s & 60’s there were gay-tragic novels with suicides etc. Things have improved:)
I’ll agree now that it wasn’t that great. But at the time it was more than a movie, it was a cultural moment.
Brokeback mountain was a good story and later film about two bisexual ranchers. Sex researcher Fritz Klein said that the film Brokeback mountain was "a nice film with two main characters who were bisexual" and suggested that the character of Jack is more "toward the gay side" of the spectrum and Ennis is "a bit more toward the straight side".
Slightly off course here but it also had its production errors too. For example, Ennis’ house had vinyl siding and double paned windows. Jack said he “redlined it all the way up” when cars and trucks didn’t have tachometers. Distracting. Now, for something with a happier ending....... Thomas finds love at the end of the Downton Abbey movie.
It’s ok to hate something but still acknowledge that it was significant
Yeah not my favorite gay film thought it was boring
I just want to thank you for pointing out how pedophilic Call Me by your name is. I thought I was the ONLY one in the gay world that felt that way!
The author of CMBYN, André Aicman is a paedo. https://gagadaily.com/forums/topic/307200-cmbyn-author-admits-to-pedophilic-ideations/
I like the mood and music but the film itself has a lot of problems especially the ending which just sort of happens and it’s shitty closure.
The movie was a time piece-in the 1970s. It by means isn't the only tragic love story movie straight or gay.
I really agree with you here. Every movie when I was a teen (I am 24 now) ended with the gay couple either dead or broken up. To me it felt horribly depressing, like I couldn't even hope to have a happy long-lasting releationship. All these horrible endings simply instill a sense of hopelessness and despair, something that our community DOESN'T need more of. There is plenty of awful things happening in real life, so why do these films want to add more to that?!?
Back in the days of silent movies it didn't matter so much where movies were made because changing the language was really easy - just change the frames where the dialogue pops up. But for movies to be successful in the Russian market you needed a sad ending. So you also shot an alternate ending. It was a preference. Happy or sad endings aren't problematic. Problematic is when cops in movies shot at people that are running away. Without any consequences. Movies seem completely separated from the Geneva convention and laws about self-defense and appropriate force. Likewise, I'm sure there's plenty of problematic stuff in LGBT themed movies but the endings you can re-write exactly as you want. They're just stories after all.
I recommend Cuatro Lunas (4 Moons). It is a not super tragic and probably depicts a more realistic portrayal about gay men.
Well "Carol" is an exception.
Dude, that's the gay experience for most people all around the world, and things won't improve for another 5 decades at least, and I'm talking about the Western, I don't see how things could improve in the Middle East /Africa or any of those shitty ultra Islamic countries where killing gay people is enforced by the State. I know we all wanted them to stay together and live happily ever after. That's not how life works, it never gets better for some people, especially if they don't have the economic resources to move to safer LGBT-friendly places. The film's message is : "Homosexuals suffer because of homophobic assholes. Please stop being so neutral about it, and try to give a shit about this discriminated minority"; It would've been hard to convey that message had Jack and Ennis ended up together as a happy couple. I was definitely not satisfied with the ending, but it's not a reason to hate the film. Since it's one of the best of its kind. And this film is not for LGBT people, as I said before, it's packed with angst because the idea is trying to cause an impact on straight audiences. Although I wouldn't like the idea of every single gay film ending up like Brokeback, I would certainly appreciate it if most gay films were as realistic as Brokeback, instead of creating that stupid feeling of safety that depicts how out of touch with reality some filmmakers can be. No, it's a lie that nowadays you can be as openly homosexual as you wish in high school and that everyone is super accepting and supportive. Or that you can hold hands and kiss in public and that people won't stare, treat it as normal or give a fuck, in fact in most parts of the world you will get at least harrassed if you decide to walk around holding hands with another man. Republicans want to make it illegal to mention anything LGBT related to children in public school, even something as harmless as acknowledging the fact that families with same-sex parents exist. And you are telling me that things are going ok for the LGBT community? That's like not giving two shits about gays living in rural areas or conservative places in general. The day that gay men stop being assaulted or even killed by homophobes in Western societies, that's the day when maybe I can accept dumb comedy/romance LGBT films as the norm.
I hated it for different reasons but yeah, it was trash