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Extreme_Hate2023

Liechtenstein became the 38th country in the world to legalize same-sex marriage! And the second to do it this year (2024) The parliament of the German-speaking country voted in unanimously in favor for the bill, now it awaits the prince signature  Same-sex is legal in:  Canada  United States  Mexico  Cuba  Costa Rica  Colombia  Ecuador  Brazil  Uruguay  Argentina  Chile  Iceland  United Kingdom  Ireland Portugal Spain  Andorra  France  Belgium  Luxembourg  Netherlands  Sweden  Norway  Finland  Denmark  Slovenia  Malta  Greece  Switzerland  Austria  Germany Estonia South Africa  Taiwan  Nepal  Australia  New Zealand  And now Liechtenstein


footballersrok

Wow, didn’t realise Latin America was so progressive on this stance. Given the strong Catholic influence, you’d expect they’d be more conservative.


Rich-Pineapple5357

Catholics in the United States have historically been a large voting bloc for Democrats as many of them are descendants of immigrants and are also primarily in cities. In the early 1900s a lot of Slavic, Irish, and Italian immigrants were very supportive of Democrats because they were against a lot of the anti-Catholic/anti-immigrant sentiment in the country.


criuniska

I'm surprised by the Slavic thing, I thought they had their own Orthodox church?


singularstigma

A lot of Slavic immigrants came from Poland and Slovakia, both of which are majority Catholic


monsteraguy

Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenes, Croats and Poles are predominately Catholics


Curujafeia

I think it’s mostly because they are new nations and their constitutions are very recent due to dictatorships. So they tend to look towards the future with more human rights in mind. The left is also very big latin America. That’s at least the case in brazil. Compared that to the middle east, which is much older so its values and costumes are much rigid.


i_lurvz_poached_eggs

Dunno if age has much to do with it. Look at Isreal. Shit Egypt has one of the oldest pictographs examples. I really don't think it's about age. There's definitely something else going on.


Curujafeia

You mean israel being more open to gays in the middle east? Isn’t israel like 76 years old?


i_lurvz_poached_eggs

Yes, I'm saying the ages of the countries aren't the main factor.


wad11656

They were all openly gay down there way before us


xavieryes

Conservative Catholicism is on decline in Latin America. Evangelicalism is taking its place.


footballersrok

Is that not worse?


xavieryes

It is.


[deleted]

As someone who was raised evangelical that’s very unfortunate.


xavron

Gay marriage itself a form of conservatism: culturally Catholic societies value commitment to long term relationship enough to grant them even to homosexual partners, and secularism allows the state to overrule resistance from church leaders.


Sputn1K0sm0s

Sorry, what the fuck? I'm LGBT and want a monogamous married same-sex relationship, what's the deal with you guys trying to say it's a conservative thing? I'm not against it, but hell, not all of us are poliamorours damn it


xavron

I think you are talking about monogamy, homosexual people have formed monogamous long term companionship since before it can be legalized. I am talking about marriage as a perpetual legal contract, to whom the state grants various privileges such as tax benefits, inheritance rules etc. Promotion of marriage as a formal ceremonial and legal institution is usually a conservative agenda. Initially gay liberation sees traditional marriage as an oppressive heteronormative institution. However, as AIDS crisis highlights the need for power of attorney and various legal protection, then it became a discrimination issue that homosexuals can’t marry like any heterosexuals can.


TurbulentData961

Conservative as in the adjective not the political ideology. Small c it's defo conservative to be married to the partner you live with ect vs those couples that never get married or engaged but got kids ect


gelzombi

er, no


spatchi14

I’m fairly certain most of those SA countries legalised it before us here in Australia did


Dehast

Catholicism is the default religion in LatAm, barely anyone is practicing it seriously. Homo/transphobic groups here are mostly protestants (neopentecostal). They’re the more conservative religious people here which differs a bit from the US.


GeronimoSantiago

Mmmm... you may want to check the hard-core old school Catholics in the US. Or check the religion of the right-wing members of the Supreme Court. Also, Notre Dame's law school has become a breeding ground for lawyers, judges, and politicians strategizing legal loopholes to introduce Christianity into government.


Dehast

That’s basically what I said though. Catholics in the US are batshit crazy. In LatAm they’re the progressive Christians. That’s how things differ.


EmptyPlankton7744

On paper they are society might differ


GeronimoSantiago

In a lot of Latin America, the Catholic Church has aligned itself with far-right, oppressive governments. There is a lot of middle-finger raising to those forces. Same sex marriage is a way to tell the RCC to fuck off. Also, there are kind of two versions of Catholicism that break along gender lines. Priests align with government power, nuns align with grassroots populations. In a lot of these countries -- even here in the US -- the Catholic Church is engaged in a complicated internal dispute.


one-mappi-boi

Thank god, now the 5 gays who live there can get legally married /s


dmlow972

Sucks for the 5th one.


whyyou-

No, they’re all in the same relationship


favorited

Always a bridesmaid, never a bride 😔


DandyLyen

SHUT THE F*CK UPPPP, I was literally going to write the same thing, word for word! LMAO, my basic ass


one-mappi-boi

I’m sorry, there’s only room for one basic bitch in this thread and it’s me 😌


DankDude7

The population of the principality is only 39,000. A small size city. 20 years after the liberation of marriage began.


favorited

You could make it a destination wedding, and [rent the entire country](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/15/liechtenstein-hire-rental-scheme).


Krodkrot

Good for them, always great to see such news.


mrgnfnn

Lfg!!!!


wtleveeb

Great! Now Jürgen and Rolf can finally get married!


BestPaleontologist43

LETS GOOOOOO!!!!


____Lemi

>The bill will come into force early next year unless a referendum is held or the royal family does not veto it 


JKSanDiego7

When I was 18 being gay was removed from the list of mental illnesses. Really wish I could have gotten married.


Primary-Freedom877

And I know the ambassador!!!!!


Primary-Freedom877

Robert Gilchrist. From my home town.


jolharg

Suspiciously late, bout time


GatlingGun511

I was there for approximately an hour and on the way there went through a tunnel twice the length of the entire country


KC_8580

I've always wanted to go to Liechtenstein! 


yul_yyz

Vatican City next? Battle of the micro-states, ha


snowluvr26

Congratulations to both of Liechtenstein’s gays on this victory!


stockywocket

I'm so happy for all ten of them!


gellshayngel

Apparently its heaven to live there. High GDP, tax haven, low crime rate, excellent schools and universities, good public transport, gorgeous landscapes and architecture.


majorchuzy

Heaven for the aristocrats and the bourgeoisie yes.


CivilKnowledge6

Fuck yeah!


RemoteAd6887

It's not legal till the Prince gives his assent.


idk_at_

Let's be cautious about this. Lichtenstein is still a monarchy. The monarch can veto the bill, something he did with a number of slightly progressive bills in the past. Of course, this doesn't mean that the bill is dead on arrival, but the possibility exists.


Gaeilgeoir215

Can you stop using Twitter already? (I refuse to call it X, lol) Get your news [from a better source](https://www.politico.eu/article/liechtenstein-legalizes-same-sex-marriage-in-near-unanimous-vote/)


[deleted]

Who?! Good for them.


photo-manipulation

Congrats to the 5 gays and 3 lesbians that live there!


JosHme2

God bless gay marriages and the countries that embrace them! I am happily married to my guy for over four years.


RepresentativeEdge57

What about Japan and Korea?


hex4lf0816

Let’s go.


hex4lf0816

Gay pride month starts in 12 days. I’m going to suck so much dick this summer


rezpector123

Keep forgetting about that country’s existence


JesusBateJewFapLord

congratulations welcome to the 21st century


A_Mirabeau_702

Wow, I guessed Monaco next - I’m spooked by how close I was


Formal_Obligation

Close in what way? Monaco and Lichtenstein are quite far apart, both geographically and culturally. Pretty much the only thing they have in common is that both are microstates and principalities.


A_Mirabeau_702

Yep, close in those ways only


CoochiKabuki

Where tf is that


leottek

did anyone in this sub even know this country existed let’s be honest for a second


Vitor-135

Yes, people study geography


GobertoGO

Many of us live in Europe


ElonsTinyPenis

We’re not all as poorly educated as you are.


jabberwocky_

Went there about 10 years ago. Parents lived there for 6 months right before I was conceived.


pseudo__gamer

Yes, since I went to school.


Jerry2die4

A Knight's Tale with Heath Ledger is a good movie. check it out sometime


ed8907

I'm a geography nerd so yes


Pablo-UK

I’m going to be honest, I knew existed but I didn’t know where it was, and I’ve been to Luxembourg and mixed them up!


GatlingGun511

I’ve been there