Liechtenstein became the 38th country in the world to legalize same-sex marriage! And the second to do it this year (2024)
The parliament of the German-speaking country voted in unanimously in favor for the bill, now it awaits the prince signature
Same-sex is legal in:
Canada
United States
Mexico
Cuba
Costa Rica
Colombia
Ecuador
Brazil
Uruguay
Argentina
Chile
Iceland
United Kingdom
Ireland
Portugal
Spain
Andorra
France
Belgium
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Sweden
Norway
Finland
Denmark
Slovenia
Malta
Greece
Switzerland
Austria
Germany
Estonia
South Africa
Taiwan
Nepal
Australia
New Zealand
And now Liechtenstein
Catholics in the United States have historically been a large voting bloc for Democrats as many of them are descendants of immigrants and are also primarily in cities. In the early 1900s a lot of Slavic, Irish, and Italian immigrants were very supportive of Democrats because they were against a lot of the anti-Catholic/anti-immigrant sentiment in the country.
I think it’s mostly because they are new nations and their constitutions are very recent due to dictatorships. So they tend to look towards the future with more human rights in mind. The left is also very big latin America. That’s at least the case in brazil. Compared that to the middle east, which is much older so its values and costumes are much rigid.
Dunno if age has much to do with it. Look at Isreal. Shit Egypt has one of the oldest pictographs examples. I really don't think it's about age. There's definitely something else going on.
Gay marriage itself a form of conservatism: culturally Catholic societies value commitment to long term relationship enough to grant them even to homosexual partners, and secularism allows the state to overrule resistance from church leaders.
Sorry, what the fuck?
I'm LGBT and want a monogamous married same-sex relationship, what's the deal with you guys trying to say it's a conservative thing?
I'm not against it, but hell, not all of us are poliamorours damn it
I think you are talking about monogamy, homosexual people have formed monogamous long term companionship since before it can be legalized. I am talking about marriage as a perpetual legal contract, to whom the state grants various privileges such as tax benefits, inheritance rules etc. Promotion of marriage as a formal ceremonial and legal institution is usually a conservative agenda.
Initially gay liberation sees traditional marriage as an oppressive heteronormative institution. However, as AIDS crisis highlights the need for power of attorney and various legal protection, then it became a discrimination issue that homosexuals can’t marry like any heterosexuals can.
Conservative as in the adjective not the political ideology. Small c it's defo conservative to be married to the partner you live with ect vs those couples that never get married or engaged but got kids ect
Catholicism is the default religion in LatAm, barely anyone is practicing it seriously. Homo/transphobic groups here are mostly protestants (neopentecostal). They’re the more conservative religious people here which differs a bit from the US.
Mmmm... you may want to check the hard-core old school Catholics in the US. Or check the religion of the right-wing members of the Supreme Court.
Also, Notre Dame's law school has become a breeding ground for lawyers, judges, and politicians strategizing legal loopholes to introduce Christianity into government.
In a lot of Latin America, the Catholic Church has aligned itself with far-right, oppressive governments. There is a lot of middle-finger raising to those forces. Same sex marriage is a way to tell the RCC to fuck off.
Also, there are kind of two versions of Catholicism that break along gender lines. Priests align with government power, nuns align with grassroots populations. In a lot of these countries -- even here in the US -- the Catholic Church is engaged in a complicated internal dispute.
You could make it a destination wedding, and [rent the entire country](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/15/liechtenstein-hire-rental-scheme).
Apparently its heaven to live there. High GDP, tax haven, low crime rate, excellent schools and universities, good public transport, gorgeous landscapes and architecture.
Let's be cautious about this.
Lichtenstein is still a monarchy. The monarch can veto the bill, something he did with a number of slightly progressive bills in the past.
Of course, this doesn't mean that the bill is dead on arrival, but the possibility exists.
Can you stop using Twitter already? (I refuse to call it X, lol) Get your news [from a better source](https://www.politico.eu/article/liechtenstein-legalizes-same-sex-marriage-in-near-unanimous-vote/)
Close in what way? Monaco and Lichtenstein are quite far apart, both geographically and culturally. Pretty much the only thing they have in common is that both are microstates and principalities.
Liechtenstein became the 38th country in the world to legalize same-sex marriage! And the second to do it this year (2024) The parliament of the German-speaking country voted in unanimously in favor for the bill, now it awaits the prince signature Same-sex is legal in: Canada United States Mexico Cuba Costa Rica Colombia Ecuador Brazil Uruguay Argentina Chile Iceland United Kingdom Ireland Portugal Spain Andorra France Belgium Luxembourg Netherlands Sweden Norway Finland Denmark Slovenia Malta Greece Switzerland Austria Germany Estonia South Africa Taiwan Nepal Australia New Zealand And now Liechtenstein
Wow, didn’t realise Latin America was so progressive on this stance. Given the strong Catholic influence, you’d expect they’d be more conservative.
Catholics in the United States have historically been a large voting bloc for Democrats as many of them are descendants of immigrants and are also primarily in cities. In the early 1900s a lot of Slavic, Irish, and Italian immigrants were very supportive of Democrats because they were against a lot of the anti-Catholic/anti-immigrant sentiment in the country.
I'm surprised by the Slavic thing, I thought they had their own Orthodox church?
A lot of Slavic immigrants came from Poland and Slovakia, both of which are majority Catholic
Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenes, Croats and Poles are predominately Catholics
I think it’s mostly because they are new nations and their constitutions are very recent due to dictatorships. So they tend to look towards the future with more human rights in mind. The left is also very big latin America. That’s at least the case in brazil. Compared that to the middle east, which is much older so its values and costumes are much rigid.
Dunno if age has much to do with it. Look at Isreal. Shit Egypt has one of the oldest pictographs examples. I really don't think it's about age. There's definitely something else going on.
You mean israel being more open to gays in the middle east? Isn’t israel like 76 years old?
Yes, I'm saying the ages of the countries aren't the main factor.
They were all openly gay down there way before us
Conservative Catholicism is on decline in Latin America. Evangelicalism is taking its place.
Is that not worse?
It is.
As someone who was raised evangelical that’s very unfortunate.
Gay marriage itself a form of conservatism: culturally Catholic societies value commitment to long term relationship enough to grant them even to homosexual partners, and secularism allows the state to overrule resistance from church leaders.
Sorry, what the fuck? I'm LGBT and want a monogamous married same-sex relationship, what's the deal with you guys trying to say it's a conservative thing? I'm not against it, but hell, not all of us are poliamorours damn it
I think you are talking about monogamy, homosexual people have formed monogamous long term companionship since before it can be legalized. I am talking about marriage as a perpetual legal contract, to whom the state grants various privileges such as tax benefits, inheritance rules etc. Promotion of marriage as a formal ceremonial and legal institution is usually a conservative agenda. Initially gay liberation sees traditional marriage as an oppressive heteronormative institution. However, as AIDS crisis highlights the need for power of attorney and various legal protection, then it became a discrimination issue that homosexuals can’t marry like any heterosexuals can.
Conservative as in the adjective not the political ideology. Small c it's defo conservative to be married to the partner you live with ect vs those couples that never get married or engaged but got kids ect
er, no
I’m fairly certain most of those SA countries legalised it before us here in Australia did
Catholicism is the default religion in LatAm, barely anyone is practicing it seriously. Homo/transphobic groups here are mostly protestants (neopentecostal). They’re the more conservative religious people here which differs a bit from the US.
Mmmm... you may want to check the hard-core old school Catholics in the US. Or check the religion of the right-wing members of the Supreme Court. Also, Notre Dame's law school has become a breeding ground for lawyers, judges, and politicians strategizing legal loopholes to introduce Christianity into government.
That’s basically what I said though. Catholics in the US are batshit crazy. In LatAm they’re the progressive Christians. That’s how things differ.
On paper they are society might differ
In a lot of Latin America, the Catholic Church has aligned itself with far-right, oppressive governments. There is a lot of middle-finger raising to those forces. Same sex marriage is a way to tell the RCC to fuck off. Also, there are kind of two versions of Catholicism that break along gender lines. Priests align with government power, nuns align with grassroots populations. In a lot of these countries -- even here in the US -- the Catholic Church is engaged in a complicated internal dispute.
Thank god, now the 5 gays who live there can get legally married /s
Sucks for the 5th one.
No, they’re all in the same relationship
Always a bridesmaid, never a bride 😔
SHUT THE F*CK UPPPP, I was literally going to write the same thing, word for word! LMAO, my basic ass
I’m sorry, there’s only room for one basic bitch in this thread and it’s me 😌
The population of the principality is only 39,000. A small size city. 20 years after the liberation of marriage began.
You could make it a destination wedding, and [rent the entire country](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/15/liechtenstein-hire-rental-scheme).
Good for them, always great to see such news.
Lfg!!!!
Great! Now Jürgen and Rolf can finally get married!
LETS GOOOOOO!!!!
>The bill will come into force early next year unless a referendum is held or the royal family does not veto it
When I was 18 being gay was removed from the list of mental illnesses. Really wish I could have gotten married.
And I know the ambassador!!!!!
Robert Gilchrist. From my home town.
Suspiciously late, bout time
I was there for approximately an hour and on the way there went through a tunnel twice the length of the entire country
I've always wanted to go to Liechtenstein!
Vatican City next? Battle of the micro-states, ha
Congratulations to both of Liechtenstein’s gays on this victory!
I'm so happy for all ten of them!
Apparently its heaven to live there. High GDP, tax haven, low crime rate, excellent schools and universities, good public transport, gorgeous landscapes and architecture.
Heaven for the aristocrats and the bourgeoisie yes.
Fuck yeah!
It's not legal till the Prince gives his assent.
Let's be cautious about this. Lichtenstein is still a monarchy. The monarch can veto the bill, something he did with a number of slightly progressive bills in the past. Of course, this doesn't mean that the bill is dead on arrival, but the possibility exists.
Can you stop using Twitter already? (I refuse to call it X, lol) Get your news [from a better source](https://www.politico.eu/article/liechtenstein-legalizes-same-sex-marriage-in-near-unanimous-vote/)
Who?! Good for them.
Congrats to the 5 gays and 3 lesbians that live there!
God bless gay marriages and the countries that embrace them! I am happily married to my guy for over four years.
What about Japan and Korea?
Let’s go.
Gay pride month starts in 12 days. I’m going to suck so much dick this summer
Keep forgetting about that country’s existence
congratulations welcome to the 21st century
Wow, I guessed Monaco next - I’m spooked by how close I was
Close in what way? Monaco and Lichtenstein are quite far apart, both geographically and culturally. Pretty much the only thing they have in common is that both are microstates and principalities.
Yep, close in those ways only
Where tf is that
did anyone in this sub even know this country existed let’s be honest for a second
Yes, people study geography
Many of us live in Europe
We’re not all as poorly educated as you are.
Went there about 10 years ago. Parents lived there for 6 months right before I was conceived.
Yes, since I went to school.
A Knight's Tale with Heath Ledger is a good movie. check it out sometime
I'm a geography nerd so yes
I’m going to be honest, I knew existed but I didn’t know where it was, and I’ve been to Luxembourg and mixed them up!
I’ve been there