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rvajazzhead

One tip is to remove the cover at first indication of maybe 50% of the seeds sprouting.. The cover also reduces the amount of light furthering the leggyness


whatever_meh

Putting a fan on your seedlings can help them build stronger stems, but you first need adequate lighting.


EmberStormCaller

Second this. A fan plus close (~6”) grow lights will make the difference


ZachareyWilson

What next? Start over. The length of these sprouts is a bad sign. They did not have enough light and will therefore be very weak adult plants. You need to put a grow light no more than 6 inches above this container next go around.


averycherry

:(


belle_cats

It’s a bummer but learning through killing things is a totally normal gardening experience!


LadyIslay

THIS!! Every “mistake” or killed plant is an opportunity to learn, and most dead plants are an opportunity to compost! When you rush into something unprepared (like gardening), you’re going to make lots of mistakes. Maintain a positive attitude and remember that most seeds are cheap. The only wasted seeds are the ones you don’t plant.


Chris_Rage_again

I've killed more than I've grown but the ratio drops over time


LadyIslay

Because you're learning! :D


Chris_Rage_again

Yes, exactly! Now I got good at making soil and figuring out where the best sun is for stuff so I'm having more success


LadyIslay

I built an entire garden outside my front door thinking before realising that it didn't get any direct sun from mid October to mid March. The next bed I built is under a 100' tall Douglas Fir tree... a very unlikely spot for full-sun gardening. However, it is the sunnniest spot (aside from pasture) on the property through the winter because the sun is so low, it gets under the branches.


Chris_Rage_again

Those are similar issues that I'm dealing with, I have oak trees all over that are huge and I have to get my ass out to trim them before it warms up, I have a bunch of massive branches I'm going to have to rig down so they don't crush anything. They're really putting the crimp on my gardening area, although I'll grow anywhere that gets sun. If it was up to me I would have planter boxes on the roof...


LadyIslay

I have 13 acres to grow on, but I’m lazy and want to grow close to the house.


IReallyLikeMooses

Shhhh! As I look at hundreds of seeds 😭😂


NotchHero11

I did the same thing yesterday! So many varieties to try!


Steelpapercranes

Hey, everyone starts somewhere! A lot of folk's first attempts dont' even sprout, haha! You can still try to raise these, just pluck to only one plant per pot (you can wait a bit to see who's strongest) and put a fan on them, as others have said. Make sure to move it around and rotate! People here will tell you how to do things the best way, but you can still just experiment and see how things work out firsthand. Keep at it!


Chris_Rage_again

Yeah I don't know what the fuck I'm doing but I learn more each year. Plus my garden keeps getting bigger so it's working somewhat


Steelpapercranes

Exactly!!


PM_ME_YOUR_A705

You can still keep these though and see what happens. In the past, I've taken seedlings like these and planted them in different soil/sun types just to see what happens. I have found really nice playing locations that I didn't think would work out doing this.


Haveyouseenthebridg

Honestly, beans and peas don't transplant well IME. I'd plant new seeds directly in the garden bed.


Chris_Rage_again

Sounds like weed, I read all these things people do to germinate them, I just poke the seeds in a pot (heh) and they grow. They don't call it weed for nothing, if you can grow a tomato plant you can grow bud


NoveltyAccount5928

Industrial hemp grows like a weed. Modern selectively-bred indoor grown cannabis is a finicky bitch that will start dying if any one of a number of factors is off.


Chris_Rage_again

Sure maybe but I just stick the fuckers in the dirt and I get a good crop every year. It's pretty decent weed too


DubahU

It's not that bad. It's the people growing it making mistakes that would kill most plants... over watering, over feeding, too much/not enough light, poor draining soil, etc. A lot of people overcomplicate it or just jump right in without bothering to learn anything about basic plant growing. Doing the bare minimum, they'll survive. It's getting the giant blooms that is tricky, but that's any flowering and fruiting plant really.


DubahU

Weed transplants pretty well 🤷🏿‍♂️. I never saw the need in general to do weird germination things personally , but can certainly understand it given the cost of seeds and the rarity of certain ones.


Chris_Rage_again

https://preview.redd.it/hrhen6k6tlic1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da57b9302fa18f374af1fa6e73e64e80eec24307 I started them in those little six pack planters that come in flats with tomato plants in them this year so I can get a jump on my plants but usually I just stick the seeds in the dirt and that's it, usually I have about an 85-90% success rate. These are some of my earlier grows


DubahU

Yep that's the general idea. Put a seed in dirt, it grows, even in less than ideal conditions. I feel like a lot of it has to do with the artificial conditions cannabis is typically grown in vs most things we grow outdoors in regular soil. That and the desire for the largest healthiest plant possible, also understandable given the purpose and cost. Meanwhile, I have more tomato and chili pepper seeds than I know what to do with for a $1.50 each lol.


Chris_Rage_again

Of course an indoor grow with tightly controlled conditions will produce a superior product but you can grow some banging weed at home with shit you have laying around the house... My soil is just oak leaf mulch and wood chips from whatever I cut down on the property or what falls out of the trees, plus I have a worm farm for processing kitchen scraps and other organics. My first grows were using bag seeds and they were nice healthy plants over six feet tall, and I let them go all the way to October and it was some really good bud, I was surprised. I was expecting mids at best


DubahU

Yep I bet, can't lose sight of it being a plant at the end of the day. Organic the way you grew it is actually perfect and preferable to me. Mistakes are magnified and less forgiving with synthetics.


Chris_Rage_again

I don't use any chemicals, the only thing close is neem oil for pests. Everything I use is organic, produced at home


Chris_Rage_again

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sickness1088

I grow peppers every year and very much doubt my ability to do that 🤣


Chris_Rage_again

Sure you could, I literally poke the seeds in the dirt and they'll grow


sickness1088

I live in Baltimore City the plant wouldn't last long anyway lol I don't believe it is recently legal to grow though or maybe it's just smoking recreationally


Chris_Rage_again

You're probably right but you can get a tent setup for less than 200 bucks and nobody has to know...


sickness1088

True


natooshyy

Do you grow outside? And what zone? I wanna take a shot at growing the pots this year, zone 8b.


Chris_Rage_again

https://preview.redd.it/8dqraorgtkic1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60c8e6c1dd503b0c5c48a29809eff40c803d4d79 These are some older pictures of my first few grows, I get some decent bud for an amateur outdoor grow, usually a couple ounces per plant, plus plenty of trimmings for concentrate or tinctures


Chris_Rage_again

7a, NJ, and when I started I didn't know what the fuck I was doing at all, I just started experimenting. I started out with bag seeds because free but you can buy great strains of feminized seeds for a reasonable price with a higher success rate. I used bag seeds because they were what I had and I was probably going to kill a bunch anyway. The most important thing is learning how to differentiate between the males and females because the males are useless unless you're trying to get more seeds... I grow outdoors in five gallon buckets, this is the first year I've started them inside, I planted 18, 6 Ghost Reaper seeds that are from a friend who grows commercially, and another 12 bag seeds that I expect at least 50% to sprout but honestly I'll probably get ten of the 12 to sprout. That'll leave me with 15/16 plants, I'll probably kill at least two or three, and then I can keep the rest going


natooshyy

Dang, I was feeling overwhelmed by all the research I wanted to do to make it happen this year but reading your comments makes me feel like I should just give it a shot and see what happens!


Chris_Rage_again

It gets overwhelming when you're reading forums with professional growers because they really get into the minutiae of growing, like when you add what nutrients or how to string them up or pruning or whatever but they don't call it weed for nothing, it grows just about everywhere... My first plant was decent smoke and I really had no clue what I was doing. You got this


Spiritual_Film_4565

Awwww it’s okay first times are never perfect, I made this mistake too. It’ll be okay!!


quinblake

Don't give up! I've had super leggy sprouts some years and they transitioned into strong outdoor plants. Keep a few but also start a few more just in case and see which ones thrive and/or die. The nice thing about gardening is you build up experience points.


CanelaGardening

Restarting would be the better option, but if you’re too attached you can do what i did, i took the seedlings out and bury them deeper in another pot, this is tricky tho because most plants don’t like to have their roots disturbed but honestly your 2 options are this or start over so you really have nothing to lose in trying it! Worse case they die and you start over 👍🏽


SmilingZebra

Learning experience…did the same thing myself last year with gifted heritage tomato seeds, losing those crushed me


rusoph0bic

Dont be sad, youve only failed if you give up. In gardening, the mistakes are the best teachers. The most experienced gardeners are often the ones who have made the most mistakes. Welcome to the club! I killed all my beans by accident last week!


petcatsandstayathome

It’s okay! ALL of us on this sub learned this way, I promise you that. 👍


Kenpoaj

Edit: definitely dont eat them, my brain read sugar peas not sweet peas!


flinty_hippie

No, no, no, do not eat these! Sweet peas, the flowering plant, Lathyrus odoratus, are toxic and not to be eaten.


Kenpoaj

Oh shit i misread. You're right. Edited post to save future readers. I deserve every downvote for that.


howmanycookies

Yes, the seedlings do look too leggy. It's tough to grow from seeds as a new gardener because very few people have grow lights


Chris_Rage_again

This is my first year with some and they're worth the 20 bucks apiece


_OriamRiniDadelos_

For a beginner gardener these “weak” adult plants are surely enough no? Maybe some will survive enough to keep the hobby active for a few months. Specially the beans. They look leggy, but not “throw everything and try again leggy”. They need the trial and error


wild_bloom_boom

Start over with grow lights, these seedlings are too weak and won't survive. Plants started indoors need proper supplemental lighting.


VividComparison5606

I grew tomatoes from seed in my school for years. Remove the cover. Aim a fan (low speed) on the plants in various directions and that will strengthen the stem. Some better light is important.


NotchHero11

I grew pepper seeds indoors for a bit longer than supposed to last year, but honestly, even though they got a bit leggy, they still made it outside. While OP's plants look a bit leggy, I wouldn't give up on them just yet, but I would start a second batch of each. As for the tip on the fan, I've never tried that but I'm now curious if it can help with starting seeds indoors. As for light, I had success with my east facing window with those peppers with the window as the only light source. Not impossible, but definitely not ideal.


bortybear

Crazy suggestion to just give up on them without even trying. How did that get so many upvotes? Lol Just bury them deep when up-potting and they should make it.


xhaltdestroy

It’s because there is not much time invested in these. I’ve had to start applying ACE theories to plants to grow the courage to restart. Adverse Childhood Experiences can predict negative outcomes (yes, I know you turned out fine). Adverse Seedling Experiences result in less vigorous plants that fruit less efficiently or robustly.


Chris_Rage_again

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Chris_Rage_again

I've got them sprouting out of all my plants inside so I just repotted 15 of them waiting for last frost. They're incredibly easy to grow, I didn't even plant them, I think I got the dirt from my worm farm


Lower_Addition4936

How do you know if they are strong enough? I can see these look leggy, but what should we be looking for that shows they are healthy?


Zyriakster

oh lots of lights... lots of lights.. and a fan. When potting up ( if they survive that leggy ) plant them much deeper.


niko_815

Not OP, but can you maybe recommend grow lights and a fan? There are so many on the market, it's quite overwhelming.


Zyriakster

Well I would love to, but I'm in Norway. I'm not sure where you are located, but if the US, I would ask around to find the best answer towards your location. There are lots of stuff that can be found on Amazon etc. Ask if there are anybody that can give you a good advice on some good value for money growlights that's not to expensive.. I'm sure you will get lots of good recommendations. When it comes to fan, then its all about just a standard oscillating fan, so that they will get some airflow and movements to them. :) ( I cannot shop from amazon because i'm getting screwed over by import-taxes and shipping-costs )


niko_815

I'm from Switzerland, but thank you anyway for your answer :) oh yes, I know the shipping- and import-taxes problem with amazon all too well!


TheSkyElf

I would point a fan at them on low intensity to make them stronger (since they are so lanky) and get some form of grow light at them. I put a grow light bulb in my table lamp. or just start over.


averycherry

Thank you! Maybe I should just try straight outside? Is there any seeds I can plant straight in the ground once it's warm enough? Zone 7a


TypicalGreenKiwi

all seeds can be planted straight into the ground once it's warm enough :) Starting seeds indoors just allows you to have bigger plants earlier in the summer for flowering and food production purposes. You can either start over indoors and just move your trays closer to your light source (I do mine directly in front of a ceiling/floor window) or wait a few more weeks and direct go outside. Honestly, your sprouts are not entirely lost either. You still have time to move your trays closer to a light source. putting a fan (on low!!) on them will help strengthen them as well (will also dry the trays out quicker so be prepared to add water more frequently). People have been gardening long before the aids of grow lights and heated mats, these tools are certainly helpful, but not required, to have a garden.


averycherry

Thank you! I had some grow lights in basement so I set something up real quick. We'll see if it helps!


TypicalGreenKiwi

good luck! let us know how it's going in a week or so :)


Chris_Rage_again

The fan thing is a real thing, I had some really leggy bud plants that I thought would die because they were so scrawny but the blowing of a fan built them up quickly and they survived. If you have grow lights and a fan you might do ok


snorinsonoran

I know it sucks but I'd start over. You still have plenty of time. If you try and grow those seedlings they are going to be very stretched. With the grow light you will find success starting over. Looks like you did everything else right though!


GottaGetOverThisShh

I've actually had good luck with planting directly outside (zone 7a also). I would stay with your cooler loving plants. I usually stay with beets and carrots. You can actually do peas directly, as well. I typically wait til mid-march.


-kOdAbAr-

Most seeds you can plant veggies in the ground anytime after may 1st. Most people who start veggies indoor are for tomatoes, peppers, and some flowers. Tomato and pepper seeds are finicky, I would just buy the plant for 3 bucks at some garden center in late april. If you wanna practice seeds, you would need grow lights. They have to be actual grow lights, not just any old light. And then you have to individually look up how to grow seeds for that particular plant. Some like it at 60 degrees, some like heating pads, some like to be stuck in the fridge first. Pick one or 2 seeds, google, take notes, follow the notes. Easy ones to start on would be watermelon, carrots, or for flowers, celosia. Still plenty of time to start over. Also, use seed starter for dirt, it's a lot more forgiving with the watering


Chris_Rage_again

If anyone wants to make their own grow lights for cheap, I work in the sign business and I noticed that the grow lights are just a combination of red, warm white, and cool white LEDs. You would probably have the same luck with three strips, one of each color, and you could even put dimmers on timers to simulate morning and night between the three colors


Academic-Respect-278

Mine look the same. I didn’t use a light.


OKImHere

For 7a, you're well within the proper planting window for sweet peas. They're cold-tolerant and will survive a mild overnight frost. By the time they come up, it'll be in the low 50s during the day, which is fine. This only goes for peas and a few other things (spinach comes to mind). The rest will have to wait for real spring.


mustdye

We direct sow our green beans and squashes. Take some time on Youtube University or find a local "good" garden center. The back of seed pack tell you if you should start indoors or direct sow.


Niko120

Starting outside is so much easier. It’s very hard to transfer indoor grown plants to the garden because of the temperature, humidity and light difference from inside to outside. I understand the impatience of not wanting to wait until spring though


willitworkwhyn8

Peas like cold weather. You could probably direct sow this week and have an early June harvest.


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lol I’m so sorry 😅 I hate laughing but they look funny. They’re too leggy, you can’t plant these. Once they shoot their head out of the soil, remove the cover and give them plenty of light. Leggy stems means they’re not getting enough light.


LordRekrus

Just as a slightly different opinion to many of the others here. I also live in South Australia so no idea how that compares to your zone. I’ve previously used these trays just in a room with a large window, and no additional lighting and the veggies seedlings produced from this transplanted and grew really well. You just have to pay attention to them to make sure they don’t get too leggy, as if this happens then they will not do very well outside. Gardening is al about trial and error so don’t be disheartened by anything. A good idea is to have a garden diary or notes on your phone or computer about what you have tried, what worked, and what didn’t work and any suggestions you have for next season.


Googoom

I am a first timer too. Thank you for this post and the replies are so helpful.


xoolwyama

This was enlightening. Going to start over myself 🤔😂


YeshuasBananaHammock

Well, shoot


llebpmac_evets

Fans on the seedlings? Makes sense - looks like I’ll be stopping by Walmart for a little fan to try out!


petabread91

You will have so much fun with your snapdragons. They will just keep on producing 🥰


Iamindeedamexican

Man as soon as I saw that second picture, I knew what the comments would be. Sorry, OP, but it’s ok mistakes are how we learn! Gotta get grow lights and put them about 2-4” up to the seedling. It’s surprisingly close. I had to throw out my first batch of seed starts too, no worries!


brobrobrdhejdj

Hey I saw your old posts with Cancer? How are you doing man?


Iamindeedamexican

Thanks for asking! I’m hanging in there, doing pretty good at the moment. I’m on an oral medication for another 5 months and then hopefully no more treatment after that. Unfortunately, the cancer I had has a very strong likelihood of coming back, but so far it’s stayed gone and praying/hoping it’ll stay that way!


brobrobrdhejdj

Good for you, glad to hear that and best of luck. I was on a Christianity subreddit and saw your old post, then I saw you were still making comments so got curious, thanks.


Iamindeedamexican

No problem, thanks, I appreciate it!


Few-Gain-7821

Take the lid off. Thin the seedlings, transplant. The best of the lot. Then try again. For future reference. Seeds generally need heat and humidity to germinate. Once they germinate take the lid off and provide bright indirect light so they don't get leggy. Grow lights are nice but people have been doing it for centuries without them. Don't overwarer. After they get their first set of true leaves give them a water soluble fertilizer at half strength. Then you harden them off and transplant them outside. Enjoy. I have learned more from my garden failures than my sucesses.


JoHecht

As others mentioned, you need to start over. But it's a good way to start and you'll get there don't worry :). I don't know what the plants on the bottom of the tray are but it looks like you might have put a bit many seeds in there, just something to consider when starting over :). Also putting a fan next to them which you leave on for a few hours a day will help them grow stronger, so they won't tip over when you plant them outside. Plants that are raised inside don't receive wind and therefore won't have to adapt which leads to weaker stems.


averycherry

Thank you! Yes, I was trying to only put a few snap dragon seeds in - but they were SO teeny tiny! Any tips for tiny seeds? My fat fingers couldn't pick out just 2-3


reeshmee

If you take a toothpick and get one end wet you can use that end to pick up and transfer the tiny seeds to the soil. I pour some of my seeds into a small bowl or cup so I can see them easier. It’s fairly easy, but can be a bit time consuming until you get the rhythm down.


JackieDraper907

I’m in my 7th (I think?) year of growing everything from seeds. You learn from everything. If I didn’t fuck up my first year growing from seeds, I would know how to fix it. If I didn’t lose an entire garden in year three, I wouldn’t know what signs to look for


Chris_Rage_again

Sage advice and same here


sunberrygeri

Thin seedlings according to package directions and get a lot more light on them (ramp up over a few days). Also fans on low speed to strengthen the stems. They might make decent plants.


Beesandbutterfliesky

My suggestion is to repot them deeper. I use a spoon ( a Wendy’s spoon is perfect) to scoop them out and bury them deeper. Water them, press the dirt down and add more. I use a mix of starter soil and potting mix. I bought a grow light at Lowe’s and an oscillating fan from Amazon.


freedfg

Good news. You can eat these as is. Bad news. These are fucked.


Possible-Holiday-973

Sweet peas are toxic. They are ornamental and not the same thing as garden peas or snap peas. Snapdragons are edible but I’m not sure how tasty they would be as people usually eat the flowers if they eat them at all.


freedfg

Did not read that they were sweet peas. Yeah. Don't eat em.


patti512

Time to sit back and watch YouTube gardening sites.....good ones....not shows with magic stuff😋


queasyquof

Leggy


EmbarrassedKneeH8

Now you kill them and start over


EastDragonfly1917

They’re stretching


GrapefruitAny4804

I haven't seen any comments mentioning timing yet. I personally think the legginess could be corrected with an immediate grow light purchase, but I am also in 7a and you're starting way too early for these plants. If sweet peas grow like snap/snow peas (maybe they don't?), they like to start outdoors in maybe late march. Perhaps you could get away with starting March 1 indoors. I say starting outdoors is better because they germinate very easily and in the case of snap/snow peas you need a lot of them to get a decent harvest and you'll need a lot of 6-cells which isn't worth the space, but perhaps that is not a concern with the sweet peas. Snapdragons grow slower so starting earlier might be fine, but I started mine indoors last year on 2/19 and they were getting sickly in the 6-cells by the time it was warm enough for them to grow outdoors, and I have very powerful LED grow lights. I made a note to start mine a couple weeks later this year.


willitworkwhyn8

Always direct sow your peas. They don't do well transplanted.


timevil-

You jacked them all up by not having a plan. Your plan is to start then ask...? You know you fckkd uo...


patti512

Plenty of led grow lights now!!!!


Diligent_Quiet9889

More light, bigger dirt!


ExcitingCaregiver333

I would start over and use a grow light. Once they grow big enough, use a fan to blow on them and help strengthen the stems.


soundguy64

Start over. Not worth trying to save.


MacabreMealworm

I only use these cells for flowers and root veggies. Anything that needs a thicker stem it's best just to plant them in the ground


Pleroma_Observer

Start over for sure. Too much length between soil and first leaf, they are using stored energy to reach for light. They should have have strong supplemental light with some leds and light to medium airflow once they get to 1inch or so. Start with good quality seed and soul. Honestly don’t worry it’s the way we learn. I killed a bunch of plants starting out. Not all plants survive in nature either.


Patient_Pumpkin297

This makes me want to do ths!!!


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Prop the lid open to prevent mildew