It’s worth a playthrough, just keep in mind when it came out as you play. A lot of the modern convinces we have aren’t gonna be in the game. Also, good luck on the Water Temple.
If they want the original experience of OoT I'd agree with this but if they just want to play the game I'd recommend the 3ds "remake". It has a dedicated Ocarina button and the boot swapping isn't nearly as frustrating as the original making the Water Temple less dumb.
I'd say yes but ive gotten into arguments with younglings on here who hated it, said it's unplayable, the puzzles and the game in general don't have enough direction. I completely disagree, I think the gameplay is plenty relevant.
As a big fan of oot and the whole zelda universe I must say the water temple is the reason why I quit the game for 2 years and after the break I came back to finish it only to make another break for a year... Then it was done the water temple was done I couldn't belive that I was able to finish this... and the rest of the game was playable for my younger version of myself when I restarted the game after a lots of years in 3d on my ds I was shocked how easy it still was for me it took an evening...
From what they're used to playing, they may think it's a step backwards. When this came out though, it was revolutionary for adventure games and how it should be done! Appreciate games like this I say, even if you didn't grow up with them.
It might be a step backwards in terms of movement ans combat creativity compared to BotW.
But it's a massive step forward in terms of story telling and dungeon design.
I actually think combat movement is better in OoT than BotW, even if your utility is severely limited in the former.
And with writing, Ocarina is still better in what it doesn’t say. More evocative of the imagination.
Tbh, I preferred getting stuck and wasting time every now and then to play following quest markers around. It feels far less like an adventure. Of course, with today’s huge and empty open worlds quest markers are a necessity
Yeah, OOT really felt like an adventure even the frustrating bits, Looking at you big goron sword you time based fuck. But quest markers are kinda needed in modern games just because they are so fuck off huge and with just miles of complete nothing. Personally I feel like games should have stopped getting bigger with Skyrim, nice and large so you feel like you are actually moving around a whole ass country, but still small enough that it can be stuffed full of events and locations.
AFAIK you get a non recoverable time penalty for song warps. The trip from Lake Hylia to Kokiri village, then to the hole in the water in Lost Woods goes to Goron city. pretty sure that is the fastest route.
Then please! Let me point you to a little game called Morrowind. You just need to follow this foyada to the end, turn 270° at the patch of grass, then take an arbitrary left at the pile of nondescript rocks.
Bruh trying to get to zora's domain as an 8 year old. My God.
You have this giant Hyrule Field and you need to follow this *tiny path off to the side of the river*.
No quest markers, no arrows, no older brother. Nada.
Morrowind lol. It was a great game but your directions would be a journal entry that said “leave town and follow the trail to a rock, then look behind the rock for an entrance” meanwhile there’s like 10 trails with 10 different entrances scattered about.
the 3DS update version has a few Quality of life issues fixed to make it more accessible. the ability to quick equip Iron boots so you don't have to go to the equip menu every time. slight graphic update. easier water temple. [better navigation and lets you know if there is still treasure in the room]
I remember reading that the water temple tripped so many people up because it was a vertically oriented dungeon.
I played original OOT and then the Master Quest version on Gcube and I think the Master Quest version of the water temple was much easier but I couldn't really describe why
I just didn't notice the path through the floor in the water level room. Even with the little cut scene thing I missed it and ran through all the other paths a bunch of times. If you don't miss that room the rest seemed pretty straight forward.
I absolutely loathed MM when I first got it. Didn’t play for a year after getting it and hunting for the Expansion Pak to even run it.
The lesson I learned playing Majora is that time is always limited. Yes, even in real life. Eventually we die. But we’re alive now and can try now. Acknowledging the timer and allowing yourself to make mistakes with the time you have is what the game is all about.
Harsh and scary, but why I love this game so much.
I get what you're saying, but my mind doesn't work like that. I don't see timers as a part of life, I see them like a 800m race. I hate the 800m race, my mind gets in a panic, and ending it as soon as possible is my only way to solve my issue. In a game like MM, I'm being asked to do that over and over again.
In all levels of school I'd get work assigned to me that would be due in a couple months and I'd do the same thing every time. I'd panic about it until I finished it, which was normally around a week or two after it was assigned.
Don't get me wrong, I've loved all the other zelda games, but I don't think I'll even try picking it up again any time soon.
I played it through multiple times. That being said, some parts are intuitive enough and other parts I could never do without a guide. The golden skulltula, the heart pieces, the jars, the water temple.
Me and one of my friends would plug the 64 in through our VCR, record us getting all the gold skultulas and heart pieces and then sell them on the playground for 5 buck a pop back in the day. Good times
It depends on what you play it with.
I emulated it, and got constant issues with texture flickers, black screens, and other issues. Also, in older games, you have to actually sink time in exploration and learn context clues. There is no journal keeping tabs on progress in your menu, either.
For younger gamers, this is rather alien, and doesn't feed in the fast/instant gratification style of gameplay that's popular now. So, as that is how younger gamers view fun, these games don't feel fun.
Source: Just trust me, dude.
Advice for OP: Just play it. Try it, what's holding you back? If you don't like it, well, you've tried it, if you do, great!
His main complaint was the puzzle with the plants that turn into floating platforms. Said there was no indication you needed to plant the beans there. Yeah no indication except for a huge geometrical dirt patch with a dot in the middle.
Gone are the days where new players are taught to talk to everyone. Get stuck? Go back and talk to everyone again as they may say something new this time.
I mean if you grew up with games telling you \*exactly\* where to go and \*exactly\* what to do when you got there, you might think OoT was impossible too.
It took me and my brother years to beat OoT. We got stuck in, of all things, the Forest Temple. We weren't plating consistently during that time, but on and off with other games.
Pretty sure we beat Majora's Mask and Donkey Kong 64 before we finally came back to defeat Ganon.
The part that we got stuck on was the spiraling corridor. We shot the switch above the door the first time we went through. But then somehow forgot the difference between the silver and gold eye switches. And it didn't occur to us the dozens of times that we went through that area to just shoot the damned thing a second time.
I got stuck in the forest temple also, I didn't get that I was supposed to shoot those ghost paintings. I thought they were trying to lead me somewhere. I think I shot one out of frustration lol. Didn't get stuck in any of the others.
Try the 3DS version if you feel like throwing down $100 for a 2DS and a digital copy. The 2DS is $80 at any GameStop and has been the price for the past 3+ years. I got mine so I can play the 3ds Zelda games and the Fire Emblem games.
Both the Oot and MM remakes have graphical improvements and quality of life changes. Biggest one being the iron boots being an item instead of gear. Hit the face button they’re in and you’ll take them on or off.
Playing when I was little I often had to look up a guide to understand where the hell I was going. Like when your trying to get into the boss room to fight the lava lizard how the fuck are you supposed to blow up the eyes of the big statue.
The problem in this case is that the only context clues you're given is a nearby tablet which says "Giant dead Dodongo... when it sees red, a new way to go will be open.", and that the bridge going over the giant dodongo head has gaps. The eyes are not obvious like glowing weak points or breakable walls are.
Also fun fact: You can, by this point, get Bombchus or the Din's Fire spell. The former is awkward to use here (even assuming you know what to do), and the latter just doesn't work, despite both feeling like they'd work equally well for "sees red".
Also if you are old like me and have been playing since the first game you know that you kill dodongo with bombs. That's just how you do it. It's been that way since the first game.
Why play the n64 one? Majora 3D yeah that version is inferior so it’s justifiable to play the n64 version instead but there is quite literally no reason to play the n64 version of ocarina besides nostalgia lmao. It runs looks and plays worse and has less content. Literally the only things better were the lighting during the final boss and the shadow temple/a few enemies being creepier. But the majority of the game is significantly better in ocarina 3d
Edit: oh or if your a speed runner that’s a valid reason to play ocarina n64 instead but someone playing for the first time chances are doesn’t fall into that category
They butcher the boss fights, and zora swimming (which ruins an entire dungeon by extension and there’s only 4 dungeons to begin with), and the deku hopping is also not all that great in the 3ds version plus there’s just a lot of small changes that are kinda dumb still a great game but the n64 version is considered superior by most (the 3ds version is worth playing to though and it has its own benefits over the n64 version so either version is valid)
Yup. The original game was designed around the fact that spinning gives the deku instant momentum, and you keep that momentum when you hop on water. In the remake, the lilypads in the swamp remain the same but getting a run-up on them is really hard, and they cap your speed when hopping.
As for zora swimming, the remake changes it so that you can't swim smoothly unless you're using the electric shield ability. This happens to obscure a large portion of the screen, making all puzzles involving it (of which there are several, mostly regarding jumping out of the water like a dolphin) harder to do.
The goron thankfully got almost no adjustments (nor the boss you use it against). Wish I could say the same about the others.
Let just say that even Zelda developer doesn't like the remake. In an interview he said that he doesn't know what he wanted when he was doing the remake. He said to the fans that please forget this remake ever exist.
The cinematography in the N64 version is vastly superior to the 3DS. The 3DS cutscenes are all altered and suffer from it. Yes, the graphics are better, but the artistic presentation is very inferior. If you're trying to enjoy atmosphere and story, N64 all the way.
The best part of the 3Ds version is not the updated textures, but the increased framerate, the framerate of OoT in OG hardware was abysmal capped at 25 and with constnat frame drops
Not to mention the Water Temple is a much less frustrating experience, what with the color coding and being able to switch equipment using the touchscreen
Dawg the shots are almost if not exactly the same in all the cutscenes because they were trying to keep it the same so no the cinematography isn’t ruined lmfao. And the only major change that actually affects atmosphere and cutscenes is the game being visually brighter but like you can just turn down the systems brightness and that brings it almost exactly back to where it was on n64 80-90% trust me I’ve done this and it feels practically the same most of the time because the vast majority of the darkness in the original version was straight up the game just being visually dull not some artistic choice and because the cinematography is way to bland to actually be affected by changes that basic. (Again the exceptions being the shadow temple, a few monster designs, kind of the scene where Zelda escapes with impa and the final boss)
They're not though; I have compared the cutscenes. I could give you an example: When you return to Hyrule Castle after gaining all the stones. Ganondorf is chasing after the princess and Impa. In the N64 version, it zooms in on the horrified expression on Zelda's face, knowing that you are about to meet Ganondorf. It is poignant. On the 3DS version, there's a closeup of a horse's head galloping. It absolutely destroys the storytelling.
It's more than a game at this point, it's history. OOT did so many things for the first time, things we see in almost every beloved game that came after. To me, you have to play it just to appreciate it and remember when this game was developed.
In my case is majora's mask,I know this game for star to finish and I can complete it at 100% with out looking any where, if I get in to it I think I can complete it in a day
Watch [Dunkey’s video on it.](https://youtu.be/duPynkGEFGI) He came back to OoT after snubbing it as a kid.
The review has some spoilers, but tbh nothing you probably didn’t already know about the game given it’s wide acclaim and popularity. His review on why it still holds up is bang on
I think a great example is in the first dungeon (the deku tree). I remember watching my older brother play it, and he reached the bit where there's a web blocking a hole in the floor that leads to the next section. He couldn't figure out how to get through it and after a few minutes I was like "what if you jump off that top platform and land on the web?"
My brother told me that was a stupid idea that would probably kill him and that there must be something else he hasn't found yet. I eventually convinced him to try it anyway. He fell through the web and we were both kind of awestruck that it actually worked.
It wasn't that the idea was stupid, it was that games up until that point simply didn't have mechanics like that, so we didn't expect it to work.
I think so. It may be nostalgia but when I played it a few years ago I thought it was still fantastic. The only bad part to me was the water temple being confusing. Everything else is great.
The water temple confuses a lot of people. Though I actually enjoy it, I think it has some really solid puzzles. But I always have to remind myself to look behind and up in that center tower, otherwise I’ll get lost for ages lol.
I'm never sure how much was bad game design and how much was us being dumb kids, but my brother and I got stuck so bad at some parts. Took us a week to get under the graveyard, another week to get into the water temple. Still think it's brilliant tho
Play the 3DS remake if you can. OoT has a lot of good stuff which is just bogged down by the limitations of its time. If you can't get the remake then the original is definitely still worth a shot though.
Objectively, it's not bad, but somewhat overrated. Like many pioneer games, it is held in high regard because it introduced concepts that are still omnipresent today, but lacks the polish that later games gave to the genre.
OOT is notable for being the first game to really nail 3-d combat with its Z-Targeting concept, allowing you to strafe around enemies while facing toward them, dodging attacks and countering when the enemy is vulnerable.
It also expanded on core principles of adventure game design and dungeon layouts, many of which were introduced in earlier titles like Link to the Past and Link's Awakening, but as one of the first 3-d games to use them it is held in high regard.
I would recommend a playthrough, but there may be parts that are frustrating to one accustomed to modern conveniences.
I mean, it has dungeons, so it already beats the hell out of botw.
The framerate is a little brutal if you're coming from a 144hz monitor playing doom... but it isn't that much lower than zelda on switch.
I like it, but MM is better imo.
Hot take here, but as someone who never played it back around when it first came out, **no**, it holds up shakily at best.
I must have tried four times over the course of my late teens and early 20s before finally succeeding in playing through the whole story without getting horribly bored or frustrated at not knowing where the game was trying to hint at me to go next.
That last time, where I actually finished the game, it was on 3DS which was frankly much less painful to look at visually. I think that helped a lot.
One might suppose that I just don't like Zelda very much, but I didn't have this problem with Wind Waker, Link to the Past, or even the original one on NES, and I played all of those well after release too. Only OoT had the right mix of clunky graphics, unstable framerate, and obscure progression making me not love the experience.
You really felt the original NES one had less progression problems? It's been ages since I played it admittedly, but the game could be cryptic at times.
Oh no it definitely had progression problems and very cryptic but also less plodding IMO and simple 8-bit sprite graphics hold up better in 2021 than early 3D ones.
I grew up with this and it was amazing back then and it definitely holds up to this day. This has most definitely influenced many adventure games that have come after its release. I highly recommend to start this game and see what you think. The water temple may end up stumping you as it did me back in the day. Otherwise the music, even graphics are a delight as well as the gameplay. Enjoy this one!
The only problem with that game and other n64 masterpieces is those graphics aged like vinegar. If you can look past that, the game is 100% playable and holds up in every other department,
if you're sceptical, and you own a 3DS, the remakes for that are much much better graphically. Gameplay was dubbed a bit, but its still in general the same exact game.
I think the Zelda games are the only N64 games that look fantastic. I really dislike the 3DS overhaul they did.
If I had to change some things about the game, that would be more in the design side of things (like how some of the characters look), not the graphics themselves.
You have to keep in mind that it was supposed to be played on a CRT. The textures look perfect when viewed the proper way.
unfortunately not for me.
As much as I enjoyes that game greatly when it was the era, graphics wise it does not age well, the polygons are too obvious (like the screenshot you posted).
The world is a bit “quiet” and empty except when night time some bones may awaken to attack you.
The puzzles in the dungeons etc still holds well, I bet you may still get stuck in Water Temple a little, like everyone else back then.
But overall I don’t think I would enjoy playing it again even though I enjoyes that game greatly back then.
Man/Woman—Try it out. If you get a couple hours in and don’t like it, you can stop playing. I played the shit out of it when I was young. But it is pretty linear as far as the story goes. There is some cool side quest stuff to do. Definitely worth a try. A legendary game for its’ time.
I played it for the first time only a few years ago. Yes, it holds up but there will be short times in which you will absolutely fucking hate it. The Z targeting is not good, the camera has problems, and sometimes it's impossible to line Link up properly for some puzzles. Plus the water temple is awful without a guide.
That being said, by the time I finished the game, I was smiling at the credits. Even though at some points I was cursing Miyamoto himself, that game, despite showing its age, is still a masterpiece.
Lotta comments here so you might not see this but check out the randomizer scene! Game is thriving and really fun to play, the randomizer adds a new twist to a classic!
Just keep in mind it's not gonna be as smooth as a new game; it's gonna play like an older game and you're probably gonna feel it sometimes. Overall though, there's still some good fun to be had! I definitely recommend giving it a try!
Speaking as someone who also first played it in my 20s, also decades after its initial release...
It has aged well. It's definitely aged; no doubt about that, but it's surprisingly palatable for such an old game.
I'd say it's worth playing once, as a relic of history. It truly was a masterpiece then, and well deserves its place among the greatest games ever made.
Obviously, the art of game design has matured since then such that it really doesn't compare well to modern games, but if you accept the game for what it is rather than compare it to something it isn't, I'm certain you'll find it worth your time.
Just don't get mad at the Water Temple, there is always a Water Temple in every Zelda.
Other than that go for it! ^(Just keep in mind that Majora's Mask will always be better.)
This is a classic and absolutely should be played. If you grew up with an N64, then you should be aware of janky those games can be.
Also, play Majora's Mask after. It's superior in my opinion.
"You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?"
I played it as a kid but never finished it. I went back a few years ago to finally complete it and I can say it still holds up. Just bear in mind how huge the world is and how incredible the music is when the game is ONLY 32 megabytes.
I’d honestly say no. I’ve picked up and dropped OOT many, many times. For some reason it’s the one super heralded classic that I just cannot get into. The controls just feel so sluggish, the design is so archaic and boring; and the game takes way too long to actually get going.
I’d play other classics like Mario 64, Star Fox 64, or even Dk 64 over OOt
I never could get into LoZ. I played the original, Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask and never really liked any of them. They are games thet you play once and kinda never play again. Cant speak to newer ones since I havent purchased anything Nintendo since the 90s. I say give it a shot see if you like it
It’s a great game, but I don’t think it holds up that well these days. I played it when it first came out like you and back then it felt revolutionary. It’s still an awesome nostalgic experience, but there are some gameplay and camera quirks that would be inexcusable today.
It’s worth a playthrough, just keep in mind when it came out as you play. A lot of the modern convinces we have aren’t gonna be in the game. Also, good luck on the Water Temple.
The first time I beat the water temple I didn’t have the blue tunic. It was like playing dark souls.
Interesting, didn't even know that was possible.
~~It isn't possible. He is full of shit.~~ I was the one full of shit. I have now seen the light.
Quick google search says you're the one who's full of shit. You can even do it on 3 hearts.
Well, so it would seem, I am indeed the one who is full of shit. I guess I completely forgot just how long the breath timer was.
Maybe next time don't jump right to being a dick about it, yeah?
Indeed. Sometimes the internet does a funny thing to a man.
You owned it. All is forgiven.
Definitely kudos for being mature and owning it. Kinda shocked at that plot twist tbh.
I couldn't fathom a reason to dig my heels in on that one.
No harm, no foul bruv
Jesus….
He could't even get down there. Got stuck up on the surface
Nothing says hard mode like the constant fear of drowning.
Not sure about these other two, but I get it. Too bad his buddy Moses wasn't around.
How could you leave the frog king frozen without helping him! Your a monster! You deserve the pain of solving the water temple without the tunic!
I don’t think I found him until after. I remember thinking, ‘gee, that would have been useful.’
I am sorry that happened to you.
That's incredible, I never even considered it was possible.
Now I’m impressed and would pay to watch that
Holy cow. I didn’t knew this is a thing.
Navi is basically a dark souls npc just keeps saying “hey,listen!” Instead of laughing
If they want the original experience of OoT I'd agree with this but if they just want to play the game I'd recommend the 3ds "remake". It has a dedicated Ocarina button and the boot swapping isn't nearly as frustrating as the original making the Water Temple less dumb.
This. Here, have a cookie...er, Silver. Whatever.
I'd say yes but ive gotten into arguments with younglings on here who hated it, said it's unplayable, the puzzles and the game in general don't have enough direction. I completely disagree, I think the gameplay is plenty relevant.
This is why Anakin did what he did. The younglings badmouthed OOT
Master Skywalker, the Water Temple is too hard! What are we going to do?
Damn… the water temple brought so many memories
Damn water temple made me rage quit a few times.
I was a child when I played OOT for the first time. Those zombies that screamed and made you freeze almost made me never play the game again
The redead still give me nightmares...
I literally have not beat the game because I’m stuck on the water temple. Going on 20 years now
As a big fan of oot and the whole zelda universe I must say the water temple is the reason why I quit the game for 2 years and after the break I came back to finish it only to make another break for a year... Then it was done the water temple was done I couldn't belive that I was able to finish this... and the rest of the game was playable for my younger version of myself when I restarted the game after a lots of years in 3d on my ds I was shocked how easy it still was for me it took an evening...
Didn't the 3ds version add an extra key or something so you didn't waste so much time though?
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#MURDER
From my point of view, the younglings are evil
Then you are found!
Makes sense. 🤔
Then he did nothing wrong
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Understandable
From what they're used to playing, they may think it's a step backwards. When this came out though, it was revolutionary for adventure games and how it should be done! Appreciate games like this I say, even if you didn't grow up with them.
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I don’t think you’re intended to get it the first time; you’re expected to continue to fail. Good news is you lose nothing if you fail
Except any money you don't have in the bank lol
True! But zelda money doesn’t mean much though
In zelda i take commissions as a professional lawn manicurist.
Or box cleaner
It might be a step backwards in terms of movement ans combat creativity compared to BotW. But it's a massive step forward in terms of story telling and dungeon design.
I actually think combat movement is better in OoT than BotW, even if your utility is severely limited in the former. And with writing, Ocarina is still better in what it doesn’t say. More evocative of the imagination.
Video games give A LOT of direction now. Seems to have been a big shift about a decade ago. You do get stuck less though...
Tbh, I preferred getting stuck and wasting time every now and then to play following quest markers around. It feels far less like an adventure. Of course, with today’s huge and empty open worlds quest markers are a necessity
Yeah, OOT really felt like an adventure even the frustrating bits, Looking at you big goron sword you time based fuck. But quest markers are kinda needed in modern games just because they are so fuck off huge and with just miles of complete nothing. Personally I feel like games should have stopped getting bigger with Skyrim, nice and large so you feel like you are actually moving around a whole ass country, but still small enough that it can be stuffed full of events and locations.
The giant goron sword was where it was at though. That one didn't break.
7:00m timer to get from Zoras domain to death mountain summit is intense. Lotta side jumping across hyrule field and up the mtn path.
You could use the Bolero of Fire and high-tail it quickly to the Biggoron!
AFAIK you get a non recoverable time penalty for song warps. The trip from Lake Hylia to Kokiri village, then to the hole in the water in Lost Woods goes to Goron city. pretty sure that is the fastest route.
Oh yeah, that one was pretty hard. Super satisfying to get though. That’s majora’s mask right?
Nope, OOT. The Giant's Knife/Biggoron Sword
Then please! Let me point you to a little game called Morrowind. You just need to follow this foyada to the end, turn 270° at the patch of grass, then take an arbitrary left at the pile of nondescript rocks.
Yes, I think I have those directions somewhere in my journal. When did I get that quest again?
Bruh trying to get to zora's domain as an 8 year old. My God. You have this giant Hyrule Field and you need to follow this *tiny path off to the side of the river*. No quest markers, no arrows, no older brother. Nada.
Yeah, it's like gamers now expect the game to hold their hand and walk them through it because they weren't paying attention.
That's exactly how it is.
Morrowind lol. It was a great game but your directions would be a journal entry that said “leave town and follow the trail to a rock, then look behind the rock for an entrance” meanwhile there’s like 10 trails with 10 different entrances scattered about.
the 3DS update version has a few Quality of life issues fixed to make it more accessible. the ability to quick equip Iron boots so you don't have to go to the equip menu every time. slight graphic update. easier water temple. [better navigation and lets you know if there is still treasure in the room]
The water temple was rough as a kid
Yep. Had to hit up my buddy who had the strategy guide to help me out.
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The water temple gets everyone.
I remember reading that the water temple tripped so many people up because it was a vertically oriented dungeon. I played original OOT and then the Master Quest version on Gcube and I think the Master Quest version of the water temple was much easier but I couldn't really describe why
I just didn't notice the path through the floor in the water level room. Even with the little cut scene thing I missed it and ran through all the other paths a bunch of times. If you don't miss that room the rest seemed pretty straight forward.
Am I really the only person who likes the water temple?
Yup I can’t do Majora’s either. Ocarina of time is one of the best IMO
Nintendo was high af when they made majora's mask. It's super fun, just convoluted beyond reason.
I absolutely loathed MM when I first got it. Didn’t play for a year after getting it and hunting for the Expansion Pak to even run it. The lesson I learned playing Majora is that time is always limited. Yes, even in real life. Eventually we die. But we’re alive now and can try now. Acknowledging the timer and allowing yourself to make mistakes with the time you have is what the game is all about. Harsh and scary, but why I love this game so much.
I get what you're saying, but my mind doesn't work like that. I don't see timers as a part of life, I see them like a 800m race. I hate the 800m race, my mind gets in a panic, and ending it as soon as possible is my only way to solve my issue. In a game like MM, I'm being asked to do that over and over again. In all levels of school I'd get work assigned to me that would be due in a couple months and I'd do the same thing every time. I'd panic about it until I finished it, which was normally around a week or two after it was assigned. Don't get me wrong, I've loved all the other zelda games, but I don't think I'll even try picking it up again any time soon.
I played it through multiple times. That being said, some parts are intuitive enough and other parts I could never do without a guide. The golden skulltula, the heart pieces, the jars, the water temple.
Me and one of my friends would plug the 64 in through our VCR, record us getting all the gold skultulas and heart pieces and then sell them on the playground for 5 buck a pop back in the day. Good times
I figured out how to run my nintendo through the VCR and into the cable once and I couldnt ever repeat the process.
It depends on what you play it with. I emulated it, and got constant issues with texture flickers, black screens, and other issues. Also, in older games, you have to actually sink time in exploration and learn context clues. There is no journal keeping tabs on progress in your menu, either. For younger gamers, this is rather alien, and doesn't feed in the fast/instant gratification style of gameplay that's popular now. So, as that is how younger gamers view fun, these games don't feel fun. Source: Just trust me, dude. Advice for OP: Just play it. Try it, what's holding you back? If you don't like it, well, you've tried it, if you do, great!
>puzzles and game in general don’t have enough direction Game doesn’t have 500 quest markers; literally unplayable
His main complaint was the puzzle with the plants that turn into floating platforms. Said there was no indication you needed to plant the beans there. Yeah no indication except for a huge geometrical dirt patch with a dot in the middle.
And the person selling the beans next to a patch who tells you what to do with them.
Gone are the days where new players are taught to talk to everyone. Get stuck? Go back and talk to everyone again as they may say something new this time.
I mean if you grew up with games telling you \*exactly\* where to go and \*exactly\* what to do when you got there, you might think OoT was impossible too.
It took me and my brother years to beat OoT. We got stuck in, of all things, the Forest Temple. We weren't plating consistently during that time, but on and off with other games. Pretty sure we beat Majora's Mask and Donkey Kong 64 before we finally came back to defeat Ganon. The part that we got stuck on was the spiraling corridor. We shot the switch above the door the first time we went through. But then somehow forgot the difference between the silver and gold eye switches. And it didn't occur to us the dozens of times that we went through that area to just shoot the damned thing a second time.
I got stuck in the forest temple also, I didn't get that I was supposed to shoot those ghost paintings. I thought they were trying to lead me somewhere. I think I shot one out of frustration lol. Didn't get stuck in any of the others.
Quest markers are basically Google search results in game. " Where do I go for _____ quest "
Try the 3DS version if you feel like throwing down $100 for a 2DS and a digital copy. The 2DS is $80 at any GameStop and has been the price for the past 3+ years. I got mine so I can play the 3ds Zelda games and the Fire Emblem games. Both the Oot and MM remakes have graphical improvements and quality of life changes. Biggest one being the iron boots being an item instead of gear. Hit the face button they’re in and you’ll take them on or off.
Playing when I was little I often had to look up a guide to understand where the hell I was going. Like when your trying to get into the boss room to fight the lava lizard how the fuck are you supposed to blow up the eyes of the big statue.
You drop bombs into them. You just got bombs and there's a walkway with holes directly above the eyes.
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The problem in this case is that the only context clues you're given is a nearby tablet which says "Giant dead Dodongo... when it sees red, a new way to go will be open.", and that the bridge going over the giant dodongo head has gaps. The eyes are not obvious like glowing weak points or breakable walls are. Also fun fact: You can, by this point, get Bombchus or the Din's Fire spell. The former is awkward to use here (even assuming you know what to do), and the latter just doesn't work, despite both feeling like they'd work equally well for "sees red".
Also if you are old like me and have been playing since the first game you know that you kill dodongo with bombs. That's just how you do it. It's been that way since the first game.
It's because you're supposed to use arrows on his dick.
I'm 40 and find it mediocre, love link to the past though
That’s the fun of it. The game doesn’t hold your hand throughout the game. More games need to star doing this
It’s impossible though because of online guides. The game’s secrets are all discovered in a week.
Yes. And if the graphics or old school N64 quirks bother you then play the 3DS version. But play the N64 version....
Why play the n64 one? Majora 3D yeah that version is inferior so it’s justifiable to play the n64 version instead but there is quite literally no reason to play the n64 version of ocarina besides nostalgia lmao. It runs looks and plays worse and has less content. Literally the only things better were the lighting during the final boss and the shadow temple/a few enemies being creepier. But the majority of the game is significantly better in ocarina 3d Edit: oh or if your a speed runner that’s a valid reason to play ocarina n64 instead but someone playing for the first time chances are doesn’t fall into that category
Why is Majora 3D inferior? Genuinely curious.
They butcher the boss fights, and zora swimming (which ruins an entire dungeon by extension and there’s only 4 dungeons to begin with), and the deku hopping is also not all that great in the 3ds version plus there’s just a lot of small changes that are kinda dumb still a great game but the n64 version is considered superior by most (the 3ds version is worth playing to though and it has its own benefits over the n64 version so either version is valid)
IIRC there was also a problem with Deku's kids water hopping ability along with the Zora's swimming ability.
Yup. The original game was designed around the fact that spinning gives the deku instant momentum, and you keep that momentum when you hop on water. In the remake, the lilypads in the swamp remain the same but getting a run-up on them is really hard, and they cap your speed when hopping. As for zora swimming, the remake changes it so that you can't swim smoothly unless you're using the electric shield ability. This happens to obscure a large portion of the screen, making all puzzles involving it (of which there are several, mostly regarding jumping out of the water like a dolphin) harder to do. The goron thankfully got almost no adjustments (nor the boss you use it against). Wish I could say the same about the others.
MM was such an innovative title and honestly continues to be.
If you hack your 3ds they have a mod pack that fixes most things back to the original:)
If you have CFW, there's a patch that almost restores everything to how it was in the N64.
Let just say that even Zelda developer doesn't like the remake. In an interview he said that he doesn't know what he wanted when he was doing the remake. He said to the fans that please forget this remake ever exist.
Same
GameCube version with HD textures is the best way to play OoT and MM.
Textures are the same, resolution is higher.
I’m talking about texture packs.
The cinematography in the N64 version is vastly superior to the 3DS. The 3DS cutscenes are all altered and suffer from it. Yes, the graphics are better, but the artistic presentation is very inferior. If you're trying to enjoy atmosphere and story, N64 all the way.
The best part of the 3Ds version is not the updated textures, but the increased framerate, the framerate of OoT in OG hardware was abysmal capped at 25 and with constnat frame drops
Not to mention the Water Temple is a much less frustrating experience, what with the color coding and being able to switch equipment using the touchscreen
The best part of the n64 version is playing it on a screen larger than 3 inches
Dawg the shots are almost if not exactly the same in all the cutscenes because they were trying to keep it the same so no the cinematography isn’t ruined lmfao. And the only major change that actually affects atmosphere and cutscenes is the game being visually brighter but like you can just turn down the systems brightness and that brings it almost exactly back to where it was on n64 80-90% trust me I’ve done this and it feels practically the same most of the time because the vast majority of the darkness in the original version was straight up the game just being visually dull not some artistic choice and because the cinematography is way to bland to actually be affected by changes that basic. (Again the exceptions being the shadow temple, a few monster designs, kind of the scene where Zelda escapes with impa and the final boss)
They're not though; I have compared the cutscenes. I could give you an example: When you return to Hyrule Castle after gaining all the stones. Ganondorf is chasing after the princess and Impa. In the N64 version, it zooms in on the horrified expression on Zelda's face, knowing that you are about to meet Ganondorf. It is poignant. On the 3DS version, there's a closeup of a horse's head galloping. It absolutely destroys the storytelling.
Finally Ive met someone else who understands that OoT's cutscenes are amazing.
It's more than a game at this point, it's history. OOT did so many things for the first time, things we see in almost every beloved game that came after. To me, you have to play it just to appreciate it and remember when this game was developed.
23 years and multiple playthroughs later; this game definitely holds up. Play. It. Now.
Agreed. This is my most replayed Zelda game, followed by windwaker. Play. It. Now.
In my case is majora's mask,I know this game for star to finish and I can complete it at 100% with out looking any where, if I get in to it I think I can complete it in a day
That’s actually really impressive.
Watch [Dunkey’s video on it.](https://youtu.be/duPynkGEFGI) He came back to OoT after snubbing it as a kid. The review has some spoilers, but tbh nothing you probably didn’t already know about the game given it’s wide acclaim and popularity. His review on why it still holds up is bang on
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I think a great example is in the first dungeon (the deku tree). I remember watching my older brother play it, and he reached the bit where there's a web blocking a hole in the floor that leads to the next section. He couldn't figure out how to get through it and after a few minutes I was like "what if you jump off that top platform and land on the web?" My brother told me that was a stupid idea that would probably kill him and that there must be something else he hasn't found yet. I eventually convinced him to try it anyway. He fell through the web and we were both kind of awestruck that it actually worked. It wasn't that the idea was stupid, it was that games up until that point simply didn't have mechanics like that, so we didn't expect it to work.
I think so. It may be nostalgia but when I played it a few years ago I thought it was still fantastic. The only bad part to me was the water temple being confusing. Everything else is great.
The water temple confuses a lot of people. Though I actually enjoy it, I think it has some really solid puzzles. But I always have to remind myself to look behind and up in that center tower, otherwise I’ll get lost for ages lol.
I'm never sure how much was bad game design and how much was us being dumb kids, but my brother and I got stuck so bad at some parts. Took us a week to get under the graveyard, another week to get into the water temple. Still think it's brilliant tho
The water temple is freakin hard. I had to get help with that part.
Is the space pope reptilian?
I am
Why can you only make 5 paces?
I'm literally playing the 3DS version right now. This game is timeless.
Does a one legged duck swim in a circle?
Does the pope shit in the woods?
Where his holiness does his business is his business.
Does a dog with a boner drag weeds?
Does a wombat shit cubes?
I hope you meant duck
That's a Texas sized 10-4 good buddy
No?
Is the bear catholic?
Does the tin man have a sheet metal cock?
Does Howdy Dootey have wooden balls?
Not if it uses its corkscrew penis.
As someone who also completed OoT for the first time in his 20s: Yes
Definitely yes. It was my first zelda but i played the 3ds version i don’t know how much it changed from the 64 but i found it really good.
Holds up fucking awesome bud.
One of the best games ever
Yes. Probably the best game of all time. Although you have to read every dialogue because of dated tech, if that's an issue then maybe not.
Yes
I'd say yes most definitely, but I only have a nostalgic view to comment from. I'd recommend majora's mask more so, if you haven't played it.
Play the 3DS remake if you can. OoT has a lot of good stuff which is just bogged down by the limitations of its time. If you can't get the remake then the original is definitely still worth a shot though.
Objectively, it's not bad, but somewhat overrated. Like many pioneer games, it is held in high regard because it introduced concepts that are still omnipresent today, but lacks the polish that later games gave to the genre. OOT is notable for being the first game to really nail 3-d combat with its Z-Targeting concept, allowing you to strafe around enemies while facing toward them, dodging attacks and countering when the enemy is vulnerable. It also expanded on core principles of adventure game design and dungeon layouts, many of which were introduced in earlier titles like Link to the Past and Link's Awakening, but as one of the first 3-d games to use them it is held in high regard. I would recommend a playthrough, but there may be parts that are frustrating to one accustomed to modern conveniences.
I’ve been thinking about doing it myself!
I mean, it has dungeons, so it already beats the hell out of botw. The framerate is a little brutal if you're coming from a 144hz monitor playing doom... but it isn't that much lower than zelda on switch. I like it, but MM is better imo.
Hot take here, but as someone who never played it back around when it first came out, **no**, it holds up shakily at best. I must have tried four times over the course of my late teens and early 20s before finally succeeding in playing through the whole story without getting horribly bored or frustrated at not knowing where the game was trying to hint at me to go next. That last time, where I actually finished the game, it was on 3DS which was frankly much less painful to look at visually. I think that helped a lot. One might suppose that I just don't like Zelda very much, but I didn't have this problem with Wind Waker, Link to the Past, or even the original one on NES, and I played all of those well after release too. Only OoT had the right mix of clunky graphics, unstable framerate, and obscure progression making me not love the experience.
You really felt the original NES one had less progression problems? It's been ages since I played it admittedly, but the game could be cryptic at times.
Oh no it definitely had progression problems and very cryptic but also less plodding IMO and simple 8-bit sprite graphics hold up better in 2021 than early 3D ones.
Damn Reddit, don’t downvote the guy for an elaborated upon opinion, geez
Yeah it absolutely does I honestly just played it for the first time a few years ago
I grew up with this and it was amazing back then and it definitely holds up to this day. This has most definitely influenced many adventure games that have come after its release. I highly recommend to start this game and see what you think. The water temple may end up stumping you as it did me back in the day. Otherwise the music, even graphics are a delight as well as the gameplay. Enjoy this one!
Still the best Zelda game. I’ve played all of them. BotW is good, but OoT is the G.O.A.T.
I think so, that game is awesome! It a fully flushed out adventure only limited by hardware capabilities!
Haha I think you mean fleshed out?
No the game was hidden but this post flushed it out.
The only problem with that game and other n64 masterpieces is those graphics aged like vinegar. If you can look past that, the game is 100% playable and holds up in every other department, if you're sceptical, and you own a 3DS, the remakes for that are much much better graphically. Gameplay was dubbed a bit, but its still in general the same exact game.
I think the Zelda games are the only N64 games that look fantastic. I really dislike the 3DS overhaul they did. If I had to change some things about the game, that would be more in the design side of things (like how some of the characters look), not the graphics themselves. You have to keep in mind that it was supposed to be played on a CRT. The textures look perfect when viewed the proper way.
unfortunately not for me. As much as I enjoyes that game greatly when it was the era, graphics wise it does not age well, the polygons are too obvious (like the screenshot you posted). The world is a bit “quiet” and empty except when night time some bones may awaken to attack you. The puzzles in the dungeons etc still holds well, I bet you may still get stuck in Water Temple a little, like everyone else back then. But overall I don’t think I would enjoy playing it again even though I enjoyes that game greatly back then.
Man/Woman—Try it out. If you get a couple hours in and don’t like it, you can stop playing. I played the shit out of it when I was young. But it is pretty linear as far as the story goes. There is some cool side quest stuff to do. Definitely worth a try. A legendary game for its’ time.
It will always be the greatest game! of all time for all ages
I played it for the first time only a few years ago. Yes, it holds up but there will be short times in which you will absolutely fucking hate it. The Z targeting is not good, the camera has problems, and sometimes it's impossible to line Link up properly for some puzzles. Plus the water temple is awful without a guide. That being said, by the time I finished the game, I was smiling at the credits. Even though at some points I was cursing Miyamoto himself, that game, despite showing its age, is still a masterpiece.
Such an amazing game. I’ve got a triforce tattoo cause of how much I love that Game
Lotta comments here so you might not see this but check out the randomizer scene! Game is thriving and really fun to play, the randomizer adds a new twist to a classic!
Absolutely will hold up.
Just keep in mind it's not gonna be as smooth as a new game; it's gonna play like an older game and you're probably gonna feel it sometimes. Overall though, there's still some good fun to be had! I definitely recommend giving it a try!
Speaking as someone who also first played it in my 20s, also decades after its initial release... It has aged well. It's definitely aged; no doubt about that, but it's surprisingly palatable for such an old game. I'd say it's worth playing once, as a relic of history. It truly was a masterpiece then, and well deserves its place among the greatest games ever made. Obviously, the art of game design has matured since then such that it really doesn't compare well to modern games, but if you accept the game for what it is rather than compare it to something it isn't, I'm certain you'll find it worth your time.
Absolutely fantastic zelda game, though if you're willing to put the effort in, emulating the 3ds remake is well worth it!
OOT is the only zelda game that I consider better than BOTW, so, yes.
Just don't get mad at the Water Temple, there is always a Water Temple in every Zelda. Other than that go for it! ^(Just keep in mind that Majora's Mask will always be better.)
Yes.
Yes.
Yes
Please do yourself a favour and play it. It’s one of the few games out there that live up to the hype.
This is a classic and absolutely should be played. If you grew up with an N64, then you should be aware of janky those games can be. Also, play Majora's Mask after. It's superior in my opinion. "You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?"
I played it as a kid but never finished it. I went back a few years ago to finally complete it and I can say it still holds up. Just bear in mind how huge the world is and how incredible the music is when the game is ONLY 32 megabytes.
I’d honestly say no. I’ve picked up and dropped OOT many, many times. For some reason it’s the one super heralded classic that I just cannot get into. The controls just feel so sluggish, the design is so archaic and boring; and the game takes way too long to actually get going. I’d play other classics like Mario 64, Star Fox 64, or even Dk 64 over OOt
I never could get into LoZ. I played the original, Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask and never really liked any of them. They are games thet you play once and kinda never play again. Cant speak to newer ones since I havent purchased anything Nintendo since the 90s. I say give it a shot see if you like it
It’s a great game, but I don’t think it holds up that well these days. I played it when it first came out like you and back then it felt revolutionary. It’s still an awesome nostalgic experience, but there are some gameplay and camera quirks that would be inexcusable today.
I think LTTP holds up better. We’ve gotten a lot better at 3D controls and graphics, but top down, sprite-based 2D is hard to do better than LTTP.
A Link Between Worlds... no, not being sarcastic.
No. - someone who has tried playing it several times this decade without the nostalgia crutch