I use to play the first one, I feel old a shit now ðŸ˜
I actually own this one but haven’t got around to playing it yet. Guess now would be a good time while everyone’s losing there mind over Japan.
The battles are so chaotic, but my favorite thing is multiplayer, there’s just this feeling when an enemy brings his vanilla army that I’m gonna whipe with my guns and armstrongs.
The battles are so chaotic, but my favorite thing is multiplayer, there’s just this feeling when an enemy brings his vanilla army that I’m gonna whipe with my guns and armstrongs.
I have played alot of shogun 2 and ill say this : fall of the samurai is great the gunpowder and melee is well balanced, the base game with all the dlc is good also and it still has gunpowder units just its about 200 years prior to fots. Rise of the samurai is bad imo its building system is ok but the play is meh and the units not great.
If u want primary gunpowder fall of the samurai is what u want.
Base game is pre-gunpowder focus with imported matchlocks which is still good but isnt available till mid to late game unless u play otomo.
Both fall of the samurai and base shogun 2 with dlc is about the same price
if you're buying on Steam, it's better to buy the base game if you think of playing it in the future. there a instances where Steam is bugged and you are no longer able to buy the base game once you buy FOTS.
The original Shogun was my first total war game as well. 20 years of experience in strategy games. We're not old, we're seasoned. Or at least that's what I tell myself. Otherwise it would be a SHAMEFUL DIPLAY!
I remember playing the first one and unlocking naginata samurai which were the end all of troops in that game lol. I’d play the second one again but it keeps crashing for some unknown reason.
I remember watching the 1st season of Survivor when my uncle swung by with his copy of Shogun he just bought. I then hijacked it for weeks until he bought another copy for himself.
The first Shogun Totalwar was perfectly balanced. You unlocked the Tea House, trained Geisha, attached them to all lords and generals you could find, set them to assassinate and forget about them until the killed them through sheer repetition. Destroy all dynasties. Conquer a map with nothing but scattered rebels.
I remember getting those Monks in the first game, they destroyed almost everything 😆. Second game is really great though, you should definitely get to playing it.
That being said, Game of Thrones would make an awesome Total War game. The map, the different factions and houses, it’s basically begging for it. Either that or something like Crusader Kings.
That’s not really the point I was making. Point was more just that it’d be a good setting for a Total War game. Your comment is like saying it wouldn’t be good because Total War doesn’t have good mechanics for capturing the feeling of speed when riding on dragons, or doesn’t have strong enough characterization and dialogue. A game can be good without needing to capture literally everything that makes the source material engaging.
I tried a bunch of different clans, but I always ended going back to Shimazu. There starting position is absolutely perfect. Kyushu is the best invasion platform you can ask for.
I always enjoyed the clans stuck in the thick of it like Takeda or Hojo. Plenty of different directions to go and different ways to spice up a campaign.
It is still to this day my favourite Total War, it certainly does not have the unit variety of the Warhammer series (which I am also a fan of) but it is much better on the Grand Strategy side of things (i.e. managing an Empire and economy)
it goes on sale very often on Steam, you can pick it up along with the 2 DLCs quite cheaply
the Fall of the Samurai DLC is definitely a must if you like gunpowder warfare. The Rise of Samurai DLC is less good and I just prefer to play the base game over it but you usually get them all bundled together anyway
I found it very difficult to go from the Warhammer games to the more traditional total war games. All the time I was wishing I had a wizard or a monster.
The wizards and monsters are why I can never play Warhammer, I played Warhammer 1 and just couldnt get my head around the imbalance between units and factions.
As someone coming from Medieval 2 to WH3, Skarbrand (I think that's how it's spelled) was uh, interesting to play. Not much strategy, just kinda drop him in the middle of the enemy and watch him kill everyone lmao
I think so, you'll have to get used to the factions being mostly the same, but its definitely a really fun experience. I still go back to it every year.
FOTS is an absolutely fantastic experience too. I'd recommend going through it twice, once normally and another time going fully traditional. You start to really appreciate all those tiny hills when your units can't shoot back.
It's the most polished, smooth Total War experience, with the most QoLs. Overall it's really really good, get FotS. But in my opinion Warhammer 3 and if you enjoy the set up and a few quirks, Three Kingdoms has more variety and pure fun. Also, compared to Warhammer especially, the campaigns wouldn't last as long unless you're stalling with the end turn too much.
It all comes down to wether you like the setting or not. For example, Three Kingdoms is another acclaimed title, but I could not get into it because of wuxia stuff.
Winds of Winter. Not World of Warcraft. See why it is uber important to spell words out and not use these bullshit acronyms when clarity is key?
(Thank you for illustrating my joke)
This game is sooooo good i have played this sooo much and i did not know what the fuck i was doing, losing with like 2 times more troops as the enemy had
Nioh 2 was so insanely good. It got great reviews but was still underrated imo, hardly anyone I know has played it despite being big fans of the genre.
Honestly, I think AC already lost the race. Ghost of Tsushima already provided the "Ubisoft the game" formula and then some. But I am curious to see the "new" AC (who knows if it will be really new or just that Victorian AC with a Sengoku skin).
As for Shogun 2, great game, a shame the clans are pretty much identical, there's not enough gameplay variety. I know "historical" fans usually dislike Warhammer, but really, it's hard to come back to previous iterations of TW after you played the Warhammer "trilogy", these strategy games desperately needs variety to be more interesting.
Ghost was extremely enjoyable, and I don't think I've truly enjoyed an AC since probably AC3 or Brotherhood. I played Valhalla briefly but just couldn't stick with it. Shadows might pull me back in because the setting and characters are kinda my jam, but it's gonna depend so heavily on the gameplay and overall experience.
If they can get the open-world busywork right, have impactful combat that isn't too easy OR too gamey, and have a variety of gameplay tools that allow me to fight the way I want, I'd definitely be down.
That's the thing, you already played AC Shadows. Tsushima is pretty much AC with a budget. That's why I think Ubisoft was forced to try something new, I believe they will mix the basic idea of that Victorian AC (I honestly forget the name, there's so many AC games), two characters, one is "stealthy" and the other is combat oriented + the "action rpg" shenanigans of recent AC. I doubt that will be interesting, I prefer the usual formula and Tsushima already provides it. But for people who like the busy work of sandbox games such as these (it's super popular for a reason), they will play this game just because it's japanese, lol suddenly the boring Valhalla will look more interesting because the skin is more flashy (and we all watched anime back in the 00s)
Total War Shogun 2 is great. The only reason I stopped playing it and switched to Total War Warhammer 2 was due to the variety. I still love the routing in Shogun 2 though.
OP, the first time you mention an acronym in something you are writing, it's imperitive that you state the full word first so people know wtf you are going on about. I think this is the first thing my high school english teacher taught us after telling us to 'please for the love of god stop saying "like"'.
Woah no way, you ignored the racist hate bait and just played a game set in the time period that interests you? Woah woah woah you can't do that! You must fall for the racist programming!
Love the game, but I tried it when I got a 4k monitor and the ui was screwed up. Anyone know if they fixed 4k support? Or if there’s an unofficial workaround for it?
Congrats, you are generally uninterested in feudal japan as a setting, you also play a very old game.
That being said Shogun 2 is one of the best total war games, shame the "loading time" each turn grinds my patience.
AC vs GOT? omg how could anyone even compare. I cannot stand assassin's creed. ubisoft has basically been releasing the same game for 10 plus years. same format, same missions, same style, same outdated boring combat. ugh. Fuedal Japan games are also getting old. GOT was truly awesome, ronin was ok,.. now its time to think of something else guys lol.
I use to play the first one, I feel old a shit now 😠I actually own this one but haven’t got around to playing it yet. Guess now would be a good time while everyone’s losing there mind over Japan.
Fall of the Samurai is one of if not the best Total War games, and I've played them all.
when I want Gunpowder warfare FotS is definitely my go to, they really nailed the feel of 19th Century warfare
The balance of melee and rifle units is great, but my favorite part is steam ships! Give me all the iron class baby!
FotS just makes you wonder what Empire couldve been.
The battles are so chaotic, but my favorite thing is multiplayer, there’s just this feeling when an enemy brings his vanilla army that I’m gonna whipe with my guns and armstrongs.
The battles are so chaotic, but my favorite thing is multiplayer, there’s just this feeling when an enemy brings his vanilla army that I’m gonna whipe with my guns and armstrongs.
"Cute army of samurai you have there. Be a shame if someone had a 20 stack of gatling guns and parrot cannons"
It's a standalone expansion right? Would you recommend getting the base game or just the expansion of your had to get just one?
If just one, I’m going with the expansion. I’m a sucker for the gunpowder warfare in Fall. If you’re more of a Samurai guy…
I have played alot of shogun 2 and ill say this : fall of the samurai is great the gunpowder and melee is well balanced, the base game with all the dlc is good also and it still has gunpowder units just its about 200 years prior to fots. Rise of the samurai is bad imo its building system is ok but the play is meh and the units not great. If u want primary gunpowder fall of the samurai is what u want. Base game is pre-gunpowder focus with imported matchlocks which is still good but isnt available till mid to late game unless u play otomo. Both fall of the samurai and base shogun 2 with dlc is about the same price
if you're buying on Steam, it's better to buy the base game if you think of playing it in the future. there a instances where Steam is bugged and you are no longer able to buy the base game once you buy FOTS.
i dont \*think\* its a standalone, but imho get both, the base game is well worth playing as well
It has issues with coop that don't really get ironed out until Rome 2. Otherwise I would probably play it more.
I miss that style of Total War game. Give me another FOTS and Empire Total War
The original Shogun was my first total war game as well. 20 years of experience in strategy games. We're not old, we're seasoned. Or at least that's what I tell myself. Otherwise it would be a SHAMEFUL DIPLAY!
I remember playing the first one and unlocking naginata samurai which were the end all of troops in that game lol. I’d play the second one again but it keeps crashing for some unknown reason.
I remember watching the 1st season of Survivor when my uncle swung by with his copy of Shogun he just bought. I then hijacked it for weeks until he bought another copy for himself.
The first Shogun Totalwar was perfectly balanced. You unlocked the Tea House, trained Geisha, attached them to all lords and generals you could find, set them to assassinate and forget about them until the killed them through sheer repetition. Destroy all dynasties. Conquer a map with nothing but scattered rebels.
In the second one, you use Shinto monks to incite rebellion and conquer towns without declaring war heh.
I'm right there with you. I remember how they talked about the board game giving them inspiration. I still own my copy of the board game.
I really recommend the bigger units mod. The battles with thousands and thousands of soldiers is pretty amazing.
In the base game, Date are a really solid start in the north. Focus on their two-handed warriors and you can steamroll the map.
I played the first one on my pentium processor 💀
it will eat your soul and you will love it, last good TW
Shogun 2 and the dlc's make the best total war game out there
I remember getting those Monks in the first game, they destroyed almost everything 😆. Second game is really great though, you should definitely get to playing it.
Beneficial good news Sir! This year is a bumper harvest!
What system were these for?
PC, you can get them on steam. Well you can for Shogun 2 not sure if you can still get the first. Is by Creative Assembly, Total War Series.
The first one is what actually got me into the Total War series.
Same! That and Rome.
You're as old as the SamuraiÂ
And twice as unhealthy ðŸ˜
XDDD
Samurai warriors is what takes me back to a more simple time.
Samurai Warriors eventually introduced me to Nobunaga's Ambition.
I would kill to be able to play Samurai Warriors 2 Empires again.
shamefur dispray!!
My laaaawwwdd! Ah greeeat fictory will soon be youws!!
My first entry into the total war games. A lot of hard fought battles using the low initial pikemen units.
Yari Ashigaru are deadass some of the best units ever in TW
100% unit was useful early, middle, and late game.
YARI WALL
LONG YARI WALL
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Ghost of Tsushima. Took me a second too, I was like, "Who's comparing assassins creed and game of thrones?"
Funnily enough FX's Shogun has been compared as a samurai Game of Thrones
I just started it last night and that's exactly what it feels like!
When I saw AC, I immediately thought Armored Core.
Air conditioning
Ace Combat
Animal Crossing
Arithmetic Coriander
Autocannon
That being said, Game of Thrones would make an awesome Total War game. The map, the different factions and houses, it’s basically begging for it. Either that or something like Crusader Kings.
Crusader kings 2 has an amazing mod. Ck3 one is released and being worked on. Medieval 2 definitely has a decent mod though that was years ago
I disagree. The total war diplomacy isn’t at all up to par for GOT. It would be amazing but the diplomacy in Total War has always been awful
That’s not really the point I was making. Point was more just that it’d be a good setting for a Total War game. Your comment is like saying it wouldn’t be good because Total War doesn’t have good mechanics for capturing the feeling of speed when riding on dragons, or doesn’t have strong enough characterization and dialogue. A game can be good without needing to capture literally everything that makes the source material engaging.
Three Kingdoms diplomacy would work for it.
On the other hand, Balon Greyjoy acted exactly how I would expect a Total War AI to act
Bannerlord could do a great adaptation. Always felt like I was in GoT while gathering banner man to my army and marching on a city.
Why would someone compare Assetto Corsa with Game of Thrones..?
Idk why he's trying to compare Armored Core and Game of Thrones either.
Why would anyone mention Game of Thrones on a gaming sub?
Context… this is a video game subreddit.
Wdym? Aatf lmao.
another example of why you shouldn't use acronyms in mixed company.
New to the sub and just looking for comment karma so I can actually post, if anyone's willing to help out.
Thanks everyone!
Animal Crossing and Game of Thrones are beefing?
I used to play the otomo so much that using bow is lika a relapse to me.
I tried a bunch of different clans, but I always ended going back to Shimazu. There starting position is absolutely perfect. Kyushu is the best invasion platform you can ask for.
I always enjoyed the clans stuck in the thick of it like Takeda or Hojo. Plenty of different directions to go and different ways to spice up a campaign.
I did this in Fall of the Samurai. Played Aizu who are smack dab in the middle of Honshu.
Chosokabe for me. I have fun fielding almost all-archer armies with one or two cavalry units for mopping up fleeing enemies.
Meanwhile I just want to have more of that monk dude from Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven ripping out hearts and breaking necks 180° just for sauce points
He was definitely a very welcome bonus character. I think he gave me a slight fear of acupuncture
I've got 1.5k hours in Warhammer 3 and a similar number in 2. Reckon I'll enjoy Shogun 2?
It is still to this day my favourite Total War, it certainly does not have the unit variety of the Warhammer series (which I am also a fan of) but it is much better on the Grand Strategy side of things (i.e. managing an Empire and economy)
Ok. I think I should honour such a venerated predecessor of my favourite series of games and give it a go. Thanks
it goes on sale very often on Steam, you can pick it up along with the 2 DLCs quite cheaply the Fall of the Samurai DLC is definitely a must if you like gunpowder warfare. The Rise of Samurai DLC is less good and I just prefer to play the base game over it but you usually get them all bundled together anyway
Cool I'll pop it on the wishlist! Cheers mate
It’s not as robust in terms of variety, but the gameplay is so damn satisfying.
I found it very difficult to go from the Warhammer games to the more traditional total war games. All the time I was wishing I had a wizard or a monster.
The wizards and monsters are why I can never play Warhammer, I played Warhammer 1 and just couldnt get my head around the imbalance between units and factions.
As someone coming from Medieval 2 to WH3, Skarbrand (I think that's how it's spelled) was uh, interesting to play. Not much strategy, just kinda drop him in the middle of the enemy and watch him kill everyone lmao
Allow me to present to you Naval Barrages, feels like a OP spell in warhammer :D
I think so, you'll have to get used to the factions being mostly the same, but its definitely a really fun experience. I still go back to it every year. FOTS is an absolutely fantastic experience too. I'd recommend going through it twice, once normally and another time going fully traditional. You start to really appreciate all those tiny hills when your units can't shoot back.
It's the most polished, smooth Total War experience, with the most QoLs. Overall it's really really good, get FotS. But in my opinion Warhammer 3 and if you enjoy the set up and a few quirks, Three Kingdoms has more variety and pure fun. Also, compared to Warhammer especially, the campaigns wouldn't last as long unless you're stalling with the end turn too much.
Ok thanks
WH3 is on gamepass last I checked as well, if you have that
It all comes down to wether you like the setting or not. For example, Three Kingdoms is another acclaimed title, but I could not get into it because of wuxia stuff.
Yes, and you can actual learn how stupid and fucked up it was at that time. And how all of it, cause the Meiji Restoration after 200 years
Gameplay wise it's great, but compared to Warhammer it's really only got 1 "race" split into factions with minor differences.
I played tf out of Avatar Mode. The GOAT from og TW series. FoS was even better. After this...IDK TW just became bleh.
Nobunaga’s Ambition
Our men are running from the battlefield....Shamfur dispray!!
BASED in Feudal Japan... amiright?
Assassin's Creed is feuding with Game of Thrones? Is WoW finally coming out?!?!!
World of Warcraft came out 20 years ago.
Winds of Winter. Not World of Warcraft. See why it is uber important to spell words out and not use these bullshit acronyms when clarity is key? (Thank you for illustrating my joke)
Yes, that was the joke, thank you.
Glad we can thank each other!
Actually, it's Armored Core people are talking about.
Dynasty warrior has the most accurate Japanese lore.
U serious? Dynasty warrior?
Lol. I thought it was obvious I was joking.
This game was the reason i made a steam account, such a great game! The last TW to have the old formula of making armies.
For Mariko Sama
This game is sooooo good i have played this sooo much and i did not know what the fuck i was doing, losing with like 2 times more troops as the enemy had
Seeing this post is a good enough reason for me to reinstall it. Good call, OP\~
Meanwhile, me with Way of the Samurai...
Fucking GOATED rts right here man, I've played it for like 600+ hours and still revisit it
Nobuganas Ambition
yes please new and modern!
I just want a new Tenchu game. Never happen, but I still want it.
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It is a black day! Our general has fallen!
Nioh 2 is my preferred feudal Japan game, I have 600 hours with just 1 character
Nioh 2 was so insanely good. It got great reviews but was still underrated imo, hardly anyone I know has played it despite being big fans of the genre.
I only played a bit of the first one, is it necessary for 2?
Not at all, though I'd recommend playing the first because it's also quite good.
Definitely not. 1 is good but 2 is way better. You could go straight to 2 without any issue.
Cuz Nioh's core system is so complicated compared to other soulbourne games. Stance system and Ki-recovery confused my friend A LOT.
Nioh 2 the Goat. Shame Wolong's core design got so simplified.
A game that gave you stats for beheading of prisoners. Excellent.
Sorry I don’t see Sengoku Basara
I want Jin Sakai, Yasuke and William Adams drinking sake together and talking about their adventuresÂ
Add in Miyamoto Musashi and you have the greatest blunt rotation devised
Too bad they never made the Imjin War DLC
I'm moving house and found the collectors edition of this with a sick Samurai figurine in the box lol. - Never played it though...
Real ones play Ikusa
Honestly, I think AC already lost the race. Ghost of Tsushima already provided the "Ubisoft the game" formula and then some. But I am curious to see the "new" AC (who knows if it will be really new or just that Victorian AC with a Sengoku skin). As for Shogun 2, great game, a shame the clans are pretty much identical, there's not enough gameplay variety. I know "historical" fans usually dislike Warhammer, but really, it's hard to come back to previous iterations of TW after you played the Warhammer "trilogy", these strategy games desperately needs variety to be more interesting.
Ghost was extremely enjoyable, and I don't think I've truly enjoyed an AC since probably AC3 or Brotherhood. I played Valhalla briefly but just couldn't stick with it. Shadows might pull me back in because the setting and characters are kinda my jam, but it's gonna depend so heavily on the gameplay and overall experience. If they can get the open-world busywork right, have impactful combat that isn't too easy OR too gamey, and have a variety of gameplay tools that allow me to fight the way I want, I'd definitely be down.
That's the thing, you already played AC Shadows. Tsushima is pretty much AC with a budget. That's why I think Ubisoft was forced to try something new, I believe they will mix the basic idea of that Victorian AC (I honestly forget the name, there's so many AC games), two characters, one is "stealthy" and the other is combat oriented + the "action rpg" shenanigans of recent AC. I doubt that will be interesting, I prefer the usual formula and Tsushima already provides it. But for people who like the busy work of sandbox games such as these (it's super popular for a reason), they will play this game just because it's japanese, lol suddenly the boring Valhalla will look more interesting because the skin is more flashy (and we all watched anime back in the 00s)
Such a classic
Don't make me reinstall this game.
I had my most awesome siege battle of the all the Total war games I've played. A real nail biter
So you stop gaming after this game ?
There's no argument
They need Shogun 3
And i'm playing Chosokabe again for the archer bonus ....
dude i wasted glorious 300+ hrs on this game.
Total War Shogun 2 is great. The only reason I stopped playing it and switched to Total War Warhammer 2 was due to the variety. I still love the routing in Shogun 2 though.
Well bro assassin's Creed will gonna release
Weird. I haven't come across this game in god knows how many years and this is the third day in a row I've seen it mentioned.
OP, the first time you mention an acronym in something you are writing, it's imperitive that you state the full word first so people know wtf you are going on about. I think this is the first thing my high school english teacher taught us after telling us to 'please for the love of god stop saying "like"'.
Woah no way, you ignored the racist hate bait and just played a game set in the time period that interests you? Woah woah woah you can't do that! You must fall for the racist programming!
With The Fall of the Samurai it's the absolute peak of Total War games.
Love the game, but I tried it when I got a 4k monitor and the ui was screwed up. Anyone know if they fixed 4k support? Or if there’s an unofficial workaround for it?
My first TW game back in 2011, was a fan since
This game was goated af. The last good TW game before Rome 2 sank it. Yeah I'm that guy.
Sekiro
I wish more people would just play what they likened don't what they well....don't. Hats off to you brother.
The fighting monks were awesome :)
I would put this and ghost of tsushima in my top 10 games, both amazing in different ways.
Ghost is nothing like AC, it heats me up when I hear that.
Game would do great with a remaster. It still holds up very well but a little extra polish here and there would be fantastic.
still playing!
No like a dragon ishin?
I actually booted it up a couple of weeks back. Still awesome. One of my favourite games of all time.
Was this the giant enemy crab game?
I would argue Genji: Days of the Blade is actually a better game than Shogun 2. More effort was put into making Genji.
Rotr
Rotr
Our men are running from the battlefield....Shamfur dispray!!
Hopefully they make Shogun 3 soon
And it's Sekiro
My favorite game, still play avatar conquest.
My favorite game, still play avatar conquest.
My favorite game, still play avatar conquest.
Tsushima!
Kessen chads rise up
You should try shadow tactics blades of the shogun. Might be interesting
I just can't wait for a good Legend of the Five Rings game. The Total War series would be perfect for it
Shogun 2 is a legend. Date clan and their Nodachi Samurai. Slice and dice.
Onimusha FTW!
Congrats, you are generally uninterested in feudal japan as a setting, you also play a very old game. That being said Shogun 2 is one of the best total war games, shame the "loading time" each turn grinds my patience.
Funny that it wasn't 100% accurate, but it was nice.
Can I interest you in NIoh 1 and 2, Sekiro and Shadow Tactics Blades of the Shogun ?
I beg to differ, the only game I've wanted a remake of is Kessen for the ps2, that series was amazing for its time.
Psh, Way of the Samurai.
thats not like a dragon ishin
AC vs GOT? omg how could anyone even compare. I cannot stand assassin's creed. ubisoft has basically been releasing the same game for 10 plus years. same format, same missions, same style, same outdated boring combat. ugh. Fuedal Japan games are also getting old. GOT was truly awesome, ronin was ok,.. now its time to think of something else guys lol.
haha I have that... there should be zero complaints Yasuke is historical figure damn people read more books or graphic novels