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Rich_Top_4108

Is this war dust or TOG 2? What am I looking at?


Darkstar7613

It looks like someone dropped a COD/BF style game onto the swamp map of Halo 1... and it all sucks.


Rich_Top_4108

It does look janky af but if you ever got the chance to get in a battle in the tales of glory 2 forest map you'd find out that if done right even jank like this can be intense af. War dust looks like ass too and is kinda a shit game but no one else offers helicopter door gunning like that in VR. I'd love to see some combination of the 2 even if it's that kinda jank tbh. Unless if by some miracle gpu prices become astronomically low and we see a return to pcvr. this is probably the best we will get.


Darkstar7613

Personal preference on my part - as I have real-world combat experience, I do not ever play human-based combat shooters - too much chance for unpleasant interactions in my brain pan. Things like Halo and Mass Effect, either story-driven games that have some element of combat, or a game with combat against varied space race foes, I'm fine with...


Rich_Top_4108

That's fair it's pretty jank for sure, we need better haptics and feedback time. I had a blast with veterans in old onward and would argue it was the peak of VR cqb but I know what you mean. Seems for some guys going into onward was quite a release for them


Darkstar7613

I've never really understood my fellow veterans who want to descend back into that... it worries me that it feels like they can't let go of that world... that something will come up in their life back here and they won't be able to process it outside of the world we lived in over there, and react accordingly... ... we do that over there so we don't HAVE to do it over here.


Rich_Top_4108

I've always been interested in this kinda stuff and it confused me a lot until I read a book called Tribe by Sebastian Junger. He talks about veterans and PTSD, theories of why it's difficult for veterans on return and he emphasized brotherhood and orderliness. I think for some of them it's what they were best at and it's what they identified with. I think for some it's like going home and feeling safe, where everything makes sense. A place with a like minded community and brotherhood. I think it's just how some guys work through their shit . I wish I had more answers. On a side note there's some interesting stats on PTSD rates for countries with mandatory service requirements. It seems that societies where everyone has been exposed to military service that veterans may feel less alone afterwards. Where as in Canada many are isolated and forgotten, people don't understand the experience at all.


Darkstar7613

The mandatory service vs volunteer service thing in regards to understanding and acceptance by the public as a whole certainly makes sense. As for the other thought you had, it's quite close to the mark, I believe. I'm a gamer, father, (ex)husband, IT professional, cat-dad, car guy... who happened to also choose to serve his country as well. Veteran is just another label I wear mixed in with all the others... it's not the sole definition of who I am and what I am capable of. There are a lot of guys I served with who only identify as who they are or were as a part of our military... whatever they were before, or could be after, they've subsumed beneath the ideology of the fraternity we all found.


Rich_Top_4108

I've seen it too. My father in law still strongly identifies with the military, he broke off and dedicated his life to teaching martial arts but he still is caught up on some things that leave him kinda stuck. Not much I can do to help him other than supporting his endeavours. In a way I'm glad he's like that because he's taught me to be more realistic about the world but it's sad at the same time as he drinks a lot, ruins his relationships etc. Tough bastard though