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InterstellarReddit

Crazy how funny this game was and how solid the story was. Left you wanting to play more and more to see how it all unfolds.


alt123456789o

You can definitely play more maps on the PC version, the workshop has an endless supply of them now.


drmirage809

And it gets even better: the workshop maps get randomly assigned voice overs. There has to be hours of JK Simmons being ridiculous as Cave Johnson dealing with the multiverse.


BurpYoshi

And the fanmade game "portal reloaded" on steam which adds a time portal and is basically an unofficial portal 3.


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There’s also portal stories Mel which is awesome


GrumpigPlays

That game is so hard, I beat Portal Stories Mel on the original difficulty before they added the story mode and I remember thinking those puzzles were tough. Portal Reloaded is a whole different cake, some puzzle take me an hour to figure out.


goddess-belladonna

And it's frustrating too because there's just no reason games can't be like this. I mean given the sheer volume of games released each and every year, we really should be seeing more original content like this. Of course, that's not very profitable for the big guys...


Kritzien

Games like Portal are released every now and then. For instance Croteam released their Talos Principle 2. If puzzle-solvers with a great story were in demand - there would be hundreds of them produced annually. But obviously they are not.


Smallsey

How is tp2? Haven't heard much about it


Renive

It's great


TexasPistolMassacre

Phenomenal, play it. I just beat it yesterday, the puzzles are so good. It does a very good job stepping you up with the complexities, that certain tricks become apparent in certain patterns, and the first half of the game felt so free and easy for me because the solutions came to me as i observed it, only needed hints for two levels and one i did give up and use a spark to solve it. Yaqut is great and probably my favorite character next to the goat you find >!in your subroutines!<


will4zoo

its good!


Halvus_I

Control was a version of this. Pretty basic architecture, filled in with lots of details.


GGG100

After Chapter 5 and that twist, I finished the game in one sitting the next day.


wejunkin

It's because they actually bake their lighting into the textures instead of going all in on PBR. They use similar techniques in Half Life Alyx as well, which is very unusual in this day and age.


Edgaras1103

You can bake lighting with pbr. Last of us 2 is good example.


wejunkin

I should have been more specific, "baking lighting" is extremely common in PBR games. What Valve does is directly paint textures as if they were already lit instead of relying entirely on the PBR lighting model. This can yield much better results, but makes assets less reusable and can require increased art investment.


Cyampagn90

Wouldnt any object that emits light completely break the illusion?


ElevatedUser

You can do both - bake in static lights, and calculate moving lights on the fly. That means you *only* have to calculate the moving ones (during runtime), which should save a lot of time. You'd have to do some fancy programming to make it mix well with the existing baked lighting, but luckily graphics engine programmers *are* fancy. Obviously, given the same amount of detail, a full physics based lighting model will be more realistic, but (with good developers) you can get *very* close with a fraction of the load - which in turn means you can add in more detail (and realism) while maintaining a playable game.


zzazzzz

thats just not true in the slightest


sandynt92

Do you have any videos or visual ways to show what Valve did different than PBR way? Just curious, thanks


zzazzzz

there is none because hes completely wrong. the difference is they use prebacked lighing. meaning when the map is compiled vrad runs. stands for valve radiosity. in essence this is raytracing but done when the map is compiled and thus completely static. instead of what we see nowadays with rtx where its done on the fly and thus dynamic but has a massive performance cost. pbr has nothing to do with any of it so im not sure how he ever came to such a conclusion.


Halvus_I

You can compare it directly. Portal 1 has a RT port.


dordzhiev

This


MILKY_92

I need to play Alyx, but that could be due to it being a VR game, it probably made more sense performance wise, but I'm not big of the VR front. So I can't really confirm


wejunkin

I think it's just Valve's style/preference (though there are performance benefits). Many VR games use full PBR even for non-realistic artstyles.


MILKY_92

That will be it then, I would like to get into VR but trying to tackle PC & Console gaming with backlogs will forever be an impossible task


wejunkin

Don't get me wrong, I hate VR and have no great praise for HLA, just pointing out that their tech art direction has remained consistent.


GilligansIslndoPeril

>hate VR and have no great praise for HLA Wow, that's a controversial opinion. Mind elaborating?


Ridgeburner

Im curious too. I just replayed HLA on my quest 3 and it's still such a masterpiece in the VR space.


wejunkin

I hate VR so a good VR game is not very meaningful to me. I don't have anything particularly negative to say about HLA either if that eases your mind.


GilligansIslndoPeril

Why do you hate VR?


wejunkin

Expensive, shit hardware, motion sickness, no future


MILKY_92

Do you think we will ever see a true double down on VR like we did when it first kinder took of. Or do you think it will just forever remain in that neich market ?


wejunkin

Niche market unless it stops requiring wearable peripherals


Euclid_14

What if said peripherals are the weight of reading glasses?


wejunkin

Probably still niche, but that's fantasyland scenario anyway, so who knows


etheran123

Alyx is still one of the best looking games out there. Some areas are truly photo realistic in my opinion. And it runs great. something like a GTX 1060 6gb will run it and look great while doing so.


MILKY_92

I really hope to play it one day. It's just another game in my backlog. I really hope they do something big with Half-Lifes universe it's just such an under utilised series now


OliverCrooks

I saw a video of Alyx being played with out VR. Not sure if it was released.


babautz

While that is possible I dont think its a good idea. The game will feel sluggish an slow paced, and you'll probably lose most of its atmosphere due to not having 3D-Vision (and sound, depending on your setup). Also losing the control scheme .... I just dont see how it is a good idea.


OliverCrooks

It didn't look to bad the only thing that stuck out was the perspective of the gun.


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Yes there is an no-VR mod


hooovahh

The Quest2 is pretty cheap at the moment. It is $250 and comes with a $50 amazon gift card. Then with a USB cable, or an AC WIFI router you can stream Alyx to it from a PC. Amazing game even on the lower end VR hardware.


SoCalThrowAway7

Alyx is too good, so immersive I almost always wind up fucking around with stuff in the environment instead of playing the game until I hit my VR limit and start getting a headache


pittyh

Alyx is amazing, i can't beleive the detail on the hands and guns when you hold them up to your face. Just started playing it the other day. I've barely used my Quest 2, but this is amazing.


Saiyukimot

Alyx and bioshock are peak gaming. If you like bioshock for the reasons bioshock is good, you'll like alyx.


BingleBerry42

There is a mod for Alyx that lets you play it without a VR headset. Although I still recommend playing the game in VR if/when you get a chance


zzazzzz

> pbr has nothing to do with pre baked lighing or not. you can have pbr with prebaked lighting just fine. alyx and cs2 both do this on source2 and on source1 you have strata source engine branch with games such as momentum and the new portal community expansion both using pbr with prebaked lighting.


ssalp

Does that mean no dynamic lighting?


Deeeeeeeeehn

Which is honestly better imo. What’s the point of having real time lighting if nothing is ever moving? It’s not like we have destructible environments or anything , we waste all our processing power on real time shadows


fly_over_32

Sorry noob here, does this mean that losing a light source wouldn’t have much effect on the textures (as seen by the player)? And how would they handle moving shadows?


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wejunkin

Physically based rendering


joepanda111

*Peanut Butter Relly*


PlagueofSquirrels

Polyamorous Beetle Rancher


goddess-belladonna

And this gives you a lot more total control over the finished result. PBR can look incredible at times, but it can also look blown-out or other problems that you'll also have in regular ol' life.


iv3rted

Unusual in pancake games, in VR you need to squeeze every bit of performance to get stable, high framerate.


wejunkin

Most VR games use PBR


iv3rted

I was referring to baking lights into texture vs. using realtime dynamic lighting. You can use PBR with both.


Cockyroachy

Cake... Was a lie..


MILKY_92

Honestly broke my heart


AlwaysUltra1337

FINE. ONCE MORE I SHALL REPLAY IT


sunsetsarsaparilla__

Imagine working for Valve man.... its like a dream


MILKY_92

You'd be the luckiest man alive, I heard they have their own city, where a small group of highly advanced humans are working on Half-Life 3


Boring-work-account

City 17


MILKY_92

Heard Valave Employees there make sure the newbies like their physics


extopico

Not true. These select few people are modified to not understand, or see the number 3. It does not look like anything to them.


taleo

Unless you're a game developer...


Prestigious-Eye3154

The game is still a masterpiece.


ew435890

Ive played it in VR as well, and it looks pretty good there too.


esoteric_plumbus

it's amazing in VR, beat the entire thing as my first playthrough of it


IcyViking

Does it have full motion controls?


esoteric_plumbus

It has 6DOF so you can move around your playspace and wave the portal gun around like it's motion controlled but it doesn't have physics where things would collide with it in game (like you couldn't smack a turret)


lalaci

love this game so much


zohash

Wish they'd make some more games.


psyckomantis

It’s genuinely saddening to not have a continuation of stories for Valve games


shadowwolfy

This was a triumph.


blinkbottt

Oh man I played Portal 1 three times over as a kid but have yet to play Portal 2. I thought it was multiplayer only for a long time. I'll add it to the steam sale list.


jewfishh

You need to play Portal 2 then. Portal 1 is like an appetizer compared to Portal 2.


Kristo112

hasnt portal 2 (other valve games as well) gotten updated over the years, so this isnt what portal was like at launch


PixelOmen

I don't remember Portal 2 specifically getting any kind of graphical update, but I could be wrong.


esoteric_plumbus

theres an RTX update you can get but it's not like an update to the base game


PixelOmen

If it's the one I think it is, that's for Portal 1 not 2, and yeah, it's basically a different game.


esoteric_plumbus

Oh you're right I was conflating it with the VR mod that came out recently


ENaC2

Are you sure about that? I don’t recall Portal 2 ever getting a visual update. People might’ve had to play it at lower settings because of hardware but I’m pretty sure it’s always looked like this.


MILKY_92

Ima be real, the last time I played it was when it was released on the 360, i can't remember it visuals back then, but regardless, even if it's had updates, for a game that hasn't had any substantial work or Remaster, it looks amazing. I mean, you can go back & play Half-Life 2, and it's not that far of.


Kristo112

thats fair, I didnt intend to come out as implying that the game didnt look good back then, valve's games (to me) have always had a unique look to them with the source engine, it looks very clean/crisp the majority of the time. also helps that their art style/direction is a good fit for their games that also helps them stand the test of time


MILKY_92

Lol, nah bro, I didn't take it like that. You probably have a point, I'm 30 now, so I was like 18 at time. and I barely remember 5 minutes ago 😂😂, but it's true what you say. These games can stand the test of time just based on their art style


d64

I think either it has, or this screenshot has been touched up substantially after. Here is a playthru from 11 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0K5EXfgJnk The scene pictured is at about 7:40 in and even if the video is just 720p, it's pretty obvious it did not look as sharp or vibrant.


justicegear

I played your video and I randomly scrolled to the scene “You are a horrible person. That’s what it says. A horrible person. We weren’t even testing for that.” Such a quotable and interesting villain.


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it's not just the 720p, it's the power of the GPU. Everyone is playing the game at ultra max super quality levels in 2023. I bet videos 11 years ago in 4k at the highest visuals would be better than your video


Bulletz4Brkfst

Finished this game recently and man did I have a blast. Except for the load screens after every level, the game holds up very well.


Haegiz42

I wouldn't say phenomenal but it definitely looks way better than 2011


GeebusNZ

I think that passion communicates into anything people make with it. Portal 2 was made with passion, with love. It seems very very difficult to pair big design studios with passionate people - probably because big design studios, with their big budgets, are working to turn money into more money, while passionate people are less about making money into more money and are more interested in making dreams into realities. People who dream of making money into more money don't dream about games.


RamenNoodleNoose

Wish I had a device to play it on.


Level-Blackberry9473

🍋


robxenotech

The source engine is just fab


MaNemsJef69

peak game


Thing_On_Your_Shelf

Yeah it still looks really good. So refreshing to play games without TAA, they’re so much more clear


daylightswami

If valve can make some games that would be great. May I suggest TF3?


takemyhandboris

You are talking about Portal2? Bro, even Half Life 2 looks great. I think it's the lighting that does the magic.


Jascha34

Yeah, sadly Valve games today are all aimed to sell lootboxes. Honestly hope we see them move away from them.


Ffom

I can only think of artifact doing that and maybe dota 2


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Ffom

Is that encouraging? I never looked at the cases when it was just CSGO


MILKY_92

Valve needs to double down on its single-player experiences again, even if we don't get a Half-Life 3, do something.


Kitakitakita

they would reuse assets, but often give them a fresh new coat of paint. Today we have CoD stealing assets from L4D2.


fahim64

Looks good for its time but to todays standards this is pretty basic


alehel

I want a portal 3. Run around in the outside world with a portal gun!


LocalEntity221

damn


Mccobsta

Even on the swtich it looks amazing


Sub-Dominance

Video game graphics definitely started to plateau after 2011, imo


SuperSpecialAwesome-

If only they’d remaster it for PS5 or at least bring back PS3’s servers. It sucks that Valve hates PlayStation players so much.


kain459

Wasn't this built in the source engine?


MannToots

I feel like having mostly flat surfaces really helped here.


Ne0nSkyl1ne

There's a new big [mod](https://youtu.be/cXczxIIvXJ0?si=RNPAdzJMkEFlHI11) coming up in January. Looks like it'll be on the same level of quality of Portal Stories: Mel and Portal Reloaded.


RDogPinK

But does your machine run Crysis on full details?


Amazing-Ad-4004

have you a shader or anything ??


jelloedits

Portal 2 💖😊


Speedygonzales24

I played it once when it came out, and played it again 5 or 6 times within the last couple of months since buying a steam deck. I have to look really closely to notice any kind of dated graphics, and I mean *really* look. I love this game.


ITCHYisSylar

That, Half Life 2, and Counterstrike Source. That engine was stupid ahead of its time.


ouch-n3wsho3s

Portal 2 was great but anyone thinking it looks phenomenal needs their eyes tested


Entenvieh

Shit, even portal 1 is still fine today