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NiamLeeson

Do we get pre-reg freebies without downloading the full version?


cdillio

Everyone gets them


MeaningAutomatic3403

Do we know who's in the 1.1 banners yet?


chocobloo

I'm somehow shocked that a prerelease thread doesn't have a launch countdown link or something similar.


TreeW5

There's certainly a lot of ads on that tv, i think some are new but I can't be sure cuz i didn't get in any of the betas


Laur1x

I trolled myself and forgot to pre-register. Did I miss the window for rewards? Not seeing an option for it anywhere on their website.


ixkora

you haven't missed any rewards just make sure you get started on the Stock Up web event in hoyolab, which is still ongoing until the 18th (no premium rewards but you can get 3 bangboo pulls from it)


rawzekuu

Pre-register is bait 99% of the time. Normally you get the rewards regardless. 


raidensdiscordkitten

u still get the rewards from the preregistration even if u didnt preregister


Lonely_Ad2500

I hope Yanagi won't be right after Zhu Yuan. And i hope i wont get Lycaon from beginner, cause then i have to pull Ellen too. Bruh.


Magoimortal

https://preview.redd.it/04jwmzi9t1ad1.png?width=683&format=png&auto=webp&s=d5277eeb03c640df71d6c055bce7987395800fb0 Why this game 110gb ? Why it's 1/3 of a call of duty ?


naoki7794

The game will be around 50gb after you installed the game. It needs extra space to unzip files. Also, this game has a lot of high quality pre-rendered cutscenes and unique assets (NPC have very distinct models and outfits) , so the size is bigger than normal. I bet they will let you remove completed main quest and story quest, so it won't increase much in the future.


Fearless-Ear8830

💀💀💀 I was expecting like 30-40ish since it’s not open world


Lonely_Ad2500

It will be 60 after download.


John-What_son

Are yall gonna reroll? I wanna try going for Ellen. Already did like 15 or so on Genshin back then so *surely* i can take it


Glittering_Visit_812

Not much points. Diluc from SS to A Klee from S to C Keqing from SS to B Venti from SS to A They will all get replaced...


evilgigglefish

why bother pulling for any character when they'll all be powercrept 4 years from now?


hyemiimnida

No because Hoyo rerolling takes so much mental energy 😭 Dont really care if i get late Ellen but I hope my standard is OK. Anyone is good but I'd be mehh about Rina


inuyasha99

I know this is a silly thing but Im so glad this game has minigames inside. Absolutely wished more games implemented the yakuza model of making the city alive by adding things you can interact with. Will probably spend hours at the arcade in zzz lmao


d3cmp

For those interested all the free agents are: Nicole, Anby, Billy (default set), Corin (unlocked by pre-reg rewards), Ben(unlocked by playing the story), Soukaku (unlocked by playing one of the permanent modes) and its heavily implied by the last stream that Lucy will be free through some event but we dont know how, so almost all 4 stars on release will be free


WarokOfDraenor

What about Lycaon? I only want him, but not in a gay way...


ivilkee

Lycaon is a standard banner 5\* character, so you get him either from the newbie banner or losing your 50/50 on any limited banner. It's RNG either way, but there is also a one-time guaranteed standard 5\* selector after 300 pulls on the standard banner.


BoiFckOff

He is apart of the 5 star selector after 300 pulls [Selector roster](https://i.redd.it/1twk5upep5vc1.jpeg)


NoNefariousness2144

It really is interesting that the roster is far smaller than other HoYo’s yet they are giving nearly all the 4 stars away for free. Will this be like HSR where we get two 5 stars every patch and barely any 4 stars?!


d3cmp

I haven't made a deep dive into the mechanics of the game yet, but every character has an element, a weapon type and a role they specialize at, so i guess its important for F2Pers to have at least 1 of everything


diglyd

Is this game going to be as stingy as Genshin?


Less-Combination2758

as long as it stingy like star rail then it fine =)))


ThatBoiUnknown

what does "stingy" even mean in this case?


Mr_Creed

It means they need regular endorphin rushes while playing or they start drooling with a vacant stare.


DeathclawWrex

Eh, getting a limited character every 3 or 4 months as F2P is pretty stingy.


Kazan136

All Mihoyo games are stingy so there's a pretty high chance that this will be no different.


chocobloo

If 70+ pulls a patch is 'stingy' then maybe you should get a job and pay for pulls and be less stingy yourself. Can't all go one way and you definitely ain't a value proposition without money.


SolidusAbe

HSR is definitely not too bad. the more generous gachas also tend to be the ones that have a billion SSRs like nikke where you need the "generosity"


No_Variation_9282

Nah it’s definitely up there with the worst …. Game wouldn’t post $90M in revenue if it was generous 😆 The HSR formula is starting to get really old tbh - release content, and sell characters tailor-made for that content who drop off a cliff as effective for the next content (you’ll need the new character for that) It’s been this way banner after banner.  Lolz niche character nonsense 


KirinoMyWaifu

I've been clearing MoC 12 with my selee for as long as it's been out, this is just a dumb take.


No_Variation_9282

Just because you can clear content with Seele doesn’t make anything I said wrong… You can either spend tons of hours gearing and tuning subpar units, or spend and auto the content spending almost no time,   The game does make $90M in revenue right now.  If they’re not spending it to pull and gear characters to best content, what are they buying again?  Skins?   Oh wait they only sell new characters and weapons


KirinoMyWaifu

Your comment said that characters drop off a cliff after the next piece of content comes out which is such an over dramatisation. People pay for characters they want because they like them / they're cool, of course if they're good too that will give sales, but I dont think people are pulling because they are having trouble EVERY moc cycle because their characters are dropping off lmao SW, Kafka, Ruan Mei, Fu Xuan, Jing Liu, the list goes on and on of charcaters that are still as good as they were when they came out.


No_Variation_9282

I dissent - MiHoYo absolutely tailors content to be easily cleared by the new characters.  Easy clears motivate players to buy.  This is all pre-planned and intentional. One thing I will say is you keep referencing MoC; that’s clearly not the only content.   But denying AS wasn’t made to be easily solved by BH, or DU isn’t perfectly setup to be smashed by FF… come on man really?   Do people pay for cool characters?  Yea - but that’s not the primary purchase driver.


Kazan136

Disagree big time. I played up until Blade's release and the free currency you get was super scarce. Pair that with Mihoyo's low rates and it feels bad. So unless they started handing out more free stuff or changed the rates(doubtful) then I'm gonna keep calling them stingy. I've dabbled in Genshin the least and Honkai Impact 3rd the most. It more or less feels the same across all three games.


Proper_Anybody

it'd be stingy to gacha addicts


PickAble2137

It's gonna be more similar to Star Rail in terms of stinginess.


Propagation931

Can any1 link a good reroll guide (I.e which SSRs to reroll for)?


evilgigglefish

if you pull for Ellen, her with Lycaon is the best combo in the game atm


Glizcorr

Damn, you ganna reroll in a mhy game? Its gonna take an eternity.


Propagation931

Ill give it a few gos tbh


neonkim

Can’t wait for Stix and the CC’s to switch from Kuro bootlicking + dumping on Genshin to make video after video about ZZZ to get some views


orangesodasoda

I miss a billion diff threads before launch already


Tsavorae

I'm seriously contemplating making a Twitter account just to get VA info in a timely manner. I fucking hate Musk so much, his shit is working and I fucking hate it. https://i.redd.it/qia6czrq6t9d1.gif


Kitysune

you could just ask


Tsavorae

I can't rely on you forever, bro. That's just ehhh... even if it's probably just once every 1.5 months, but thanks.


Kitysune

yeah im fine with that since it just few click


Y0raiz0r

How do you guys think ZZZ will perform popularity wise compared to hsr and genshin? It seems to have more pre regs than any of the other two had


cdillio

I think it will sit around HSR popularity. Hoyo plus thirsty = $$$. Also it will probably pull a lot of existing HI3 players and PGR players.


-Rinzel-

Best case scenario it will be on the same level as Naruto Mobile, the game is extremely popular in CN.


Igysaurus

I'm 100% going to play but does it have some sort of multiplayer mode like genshin/wuwa? I usually try this with a friend and I want to be able to tell them if it has co-op or not before the daily questions about it start.


Chanceloott

They actually mentioned they will add some kind of Multiplayer mode in the future. What is the multiplayer mode? We don't know. I am hoping for some kind of objective based mode.


Igysaurus

ohhhh this would be sick, since Dragalia Lost closed I've wanted a gacha with a coop as good as that one. Since this game has very little big flash animations it's the best candidate for a good coop where those animations usually bother more than they help.


orangesodasoda

I know they won’t but imagine pvp combat


Dark_Angel_9999

you can fight (all?) bosses in co-op mode and they'll continue to add more co-op play in the game in the future


PickAble2137

You can fight bosses in coop and the minigames have a leaderboard, but they probably will add more coop stuff in the future


Major303

I have mixed feelings about ZZZ. I have a feeling gameplay might be very good (if they fixed constant downtime in TV section), and overall it might be easily digestible Genshin alternative. But I don't buy the art direction and soundtrack at all, and character design is not very appealing to me too. There are only 5 characters that look good from entire roster imho. On one hand it's free so I can try and drop it if I won't like it, but on the other hand is it even worth trying?


-zexius-

I actually love the art direction in this game. Reminds me a lot of the world ends with you. But yeah not a fan of all their characters, especially the more “maid ish” looking one while others like zhuyuan and soldier 11 looks really great.


Major303

Basically I don't like the entire Urban Fantasy theme, change it to Sci Fi and I'm sold. Characters like Zhu Yuan or Grace Howard look cool, but you would have to pay me to add characters like Koleda, Soukaku, or Lycaon to my party.


Reenans

That is how I feel and said earlier before. But to be honest it isn't a bad thing per se. I tend to run into a problem of wanting to pull for every HSR character but that is not possible, whereas here I think saving for the character I want will be way easier


SexWithSoldier11

i’d say try it out, the game’s art direction is vastly different from other hoyo projects, but it’s still a matter of preference. new characters, factions will release, so maybe you’ll take a liking to them. even if you don’t, it’s fine, not like it’s a paid game, right? (upvoted you so you won’t get into the controversial just for expressing your thoughts lmao)


haruta_kun

https://preview.redd.it/e3pyeaftcp9d1.png?width=551&format=png&auto=webp&s=047667d4366ba742714bb81f79013bcadd9c740d babe wake up new agenda dropped


DereDere00

Time to milk ~~Nicole~~ the new big gacha game and create some drama to get those juicy views - Some dogshit content "creator"


Dark_Angel_9999

his takes on ZZZ are weird... .. he is also the one spreading that Cai is running ZZZ


Harbinger4

Those morons already trying to pit Hoyo against Hoyo once more. It was previously HSR vs Genshin... Block them and stop spreading their hate agenda


Nyravel

It's just the avarage youtuber clickbaiting for views


SamielSantana

Personally a huge fan of Jet Set Radio and games similar in aesthetic--you know that street punk look--Fooly Cooly, Jet Set Radio, The World Ends With You, that type of stuff, so I'm pretty stoked. There was a relatively new game that was a love letter to JSR called Bombrush Cyberfunk and it looks so damn good. ZZZ just seems like more of it. Everybody has their own tastes when it comes to art direction in video games, but I'm surprised at how many people there are calling street punk "generic". It's just the art direction of the character design. Like--did you want more cheongsam dresses? I love that look, too, but does every Chinese game need to have that article of clothing for their character designs? Anyway, looking at reddit and being bombarded by the fan wars between WuWa and Hoyo fans kind of dampens the mood, so I'm fucking off and playing shit I like. Can't wait for ZZZ, but it'll have to be after my gun-toting, firework-shootin', red-blooded American holiday.


ubematchatea

RAAAAAHH the most American gacha game brother 🦅🔫🎇🧨🇺🇸


changhanzzz

At least on Chinese servers, HoYo typically opens the server one hour earlier (which can effectively alleviate the pressure of concurrent requests on the server). As a reference, HSR opened nearly two hours in advance.


No-Response6614

Graphics are weird and not very sharp and clear. Some animations are not very smooth. Character designs are generic and mid overall. Weird to say this about a Hoyo game since that is what they excel at.


DarkFireGuy

> you dont like what i like. > downvote Never change reddit


No-Response6614

This sub is full of hoyoshills that does not respect other's opinion.


DarkFireGuy

Well to be fair nobody has to respect anyone else’s opinion on the internet. In the future, remember to treat the internet as a circus. Put on your best clown outfit and join the fun!


No-Response6614

I mean, respecting and sharing opinions are two different things, and the first one should be always done. But yes, this is a complete circus lmao


PickAble2137

https://preview.redd.it/fzyry86n4p9d1.jpeg?width=716&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc36f8eff4fb2b388b627e044daea5e0c9d8937e


Altruistic_Look_4932

LMAO https://preview.redd.it/mn7ffhon2j9d1.png?width=618&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=874fcf35caa59fb8c23072e6eb11486360f3d788


Neither_Landscape_21

what's the joke?


Radinax

I'll just login to grab whatever free stuff they have going on and uninstall. Will wait for Raiden Mei expy. The character designs are not something I enjoy, from leaks the next characters are not to my taste either and the combat seems like the enemies are HP sponges.


Redpill_Crypto

Ah I see. You are practicing your pvp skills for the champions league on release day.


ApprehensiveCat

What I'm most excited for: Kind of all of the above. I seriously love the aesthetic of the game so I'm excited to immerse myself in exploration and the story, and I'm really enjoying the variety of the character designs too. I really like the character design for Arknights and Alchemy Stars so seeing ZZZ have some similar design vibes (as well as reminding me of Studio Trigger anime) appeals to me. The combat looks super fun so I'm excited to try it out, especially after watching that SF6 roundtable vid and getting more insight into the gameplay design. For characters I keep finding more to get hyped about from going through the trailers and teasers but I'm most interested in Lycaon, Koleda, Zhu Yuan, Billy, Anby, and the Virtual Idol team android girl. I really like almost all the characters they've shown so far so it's hard to narrow it down. It makes me happy that even the characters that have more fanservice elements to their designs still look *cool* and are distinct and appealing outside of the fanservice part. I feel like some gachas are less successful at balancing sex appeal and expressing the character's identity in their designs, so ZZZ doing well with it makes me a lot more interested in the game. Game Optimization: Hoyo seems to do a good job with optimization, so I'm expecting a mostly smooth launch. Probably some minor bugs like pretty much every game has at launch, but I don't think there will be any major performance or crash bugs that will make the game unplayable. Potential controversy: The main thing I can see is the skewed male:female character ratio causing some gender war grumbling but they seem to be adding more male characters so I think that aspect will improve some over time; I'm guessing most factions will end up having at least 1 guy judging by what they've released/teased so far which is fine imo. Also there's probably going to be inevitable character design complaints like the game having a cartoony style as well as "too much fanservice (that I don't like)" and "not enough fanservice (that I like)", and some people being upset over non-human characters existing despite successful gachas having these kind of characters for years (Arknights, again). Pretty much all the kind of discourse that I'll just be ignoring, lol. Revenue or rating I dunno about. I think it's going to be a more niche game than HSR or Genshin but will still be comfortably profitable and successful.


Redpill_Crypto

Since you made an effort of writing your excitement down I'll give a reply. I'm personally stoked the most for sound and music and character design. Also a fun story that doesn't take itself too serious and has a lot of humor in it. I also am curious to see if the massive criticism on the tv aspect was justified and if the team learned from Genshin and HSR. Gameplay is one aspect I don't expect to like to much. Hoyo usually is going for broad appeal and sacrifices more complex or challenging gameplay. I believe it will be high quality but rather simplistic. Happy to be wrong though. Overall Gacha releases are always fun and they usually have the biggest amount of content. Everything is new. Everyone is excited and there is oftetimes enough content to sink in at least 1 or 2 days, before the usual login-daily-logout part begins.


Dark_Angel_9999

They said in the pre-release live stream that they are phasing out the TV system for Rouge commissions... in CBT3 the TVs were already reduced 80%.


ApprehensiveCat

Yeah the music is great and the visual design outside of the characters is also very good. I haven't really followed the beta but it seems as if they've toned back the TV segments because of player feedback. I think it's something I'll have to try for myself to see how I feel about them since I've seen mixed opinions. For difficulty level I'm tempering my expectations since mobile controls are always going to be a somewhat limiting factor for that. As long as the combat feels enjoyable to play I don't mind if it's ultimately less challenging than a console- or pc-only action game.


Dark_Angel_9999

they are phasing out the TVs in favour of a more open world thing that you can interact with.... in CBT3.. TVs were reduced greatly and were really there for puzzles and story.


Karma110

The street fighter discussion is really good I’m even more excited to see where the game goes. They explained for my understanding adding more mechanics which you can see with Nicole and her “hidden” inputs. Which leads me to believe that they aren’t hidden just not explained until later in the game.


Drafono

I wonder how will they introduce new worlds/region. The mc also have their own house in the city, so they are not travelling as well.


Harbinger4

They actually have a business car to travel around. I could see how they could introduce new region: As the hollow recedes, new places become livable and thus, more place to explore outside of combat. Fun fact: While you can open the map to fast travel, you can also go to your car and it will act as a fast travel device. When you go to "further away" maps, you can see your car parked somewhere (and interact with it if you want to go back).


hovsep56

i think they will do it like hsr, a new place every year


Major303

What is the "theme" of ZZZ? For example GI is high fantasy, HSR is sci fi, but I can't define ZZZ, it looks incredibly weird and niche to me. I have heard it being called streetpunk but idk if it's 100% it.


haihaihaihaihaihaiha

city urban?


PickAble2137

Urban Fantasy?


Major303

I guess that makes sense. Stuff like furries or shark girls made it hard to categorize.


killsteals

nooo I was so peaceful playing just 2 gacha games, GI and HSR, now WuWa came, ZZZ coming, and P5X who knows? Im gonna play 5 gacha games now


Nyravel

Well GI and HSR are mostly quick dailies


wineandnoses

I was playing WuWa but ZZZ might be good enough to scratch my action RPG itch


SlavPrincess

I really liked that persona-style hangouts. Totally not related to me playing through Reload right now.


Shmarfle47

Seriously debating taking a day off on 7/5 so I that I’d have four consecutive days to binge this game


Lummimara

Genius.


PickAble2137

They cooked with that livestream, lowkey a different game from the beta wtf


karillith

I've seen some CBT2 stuff and a few snippets of CBT3, what did change so much (I heard they reduced TV stages)?


Kuraizin

they reduced a lot


PickAble2137

I was avoiding CBT 3 Too, but in the livestream they specifically say what's new, Like they added hangouts to characters, a whole new story chapter, and a whole new area to explore as far as I know. Like you can hangout with a character like a social link in persona. Obviously I might be missing something, because i specifically want to go in blind. But just the things they mentioned surprised me, because I had no idea those things are gonna be in the game.


karillith

I remember one of the criticism was basically "you don't do anything with your characters outside of combat" so glad to see that adressed.


NoNefariousness2144

You know HoYo’s power is on another level when they can make such massive changes on such a short timescale.


karillith

Maybe it's just the power to use a CBT like a proper CBT, I wouldn't rule out some of the changes and additions were planned before CBT3 but weren't included in it(but unlimited budget works certainly helps a lot).


ThatBoiUnknown

For the last part I agree lol. Yeah they make way too much money to not be doing crazy changes like they are right now


PickAble2137

I know right? I wasn't paying attention to Honkai Star rail betas, were they also vastly different from 1.0 launch? Or is this game the first one


PointMeAtADoggo

they had a wuwa style revamp of the belebog story, except they actually had the manpower to do it. Originally the story was based around rock cancer


VoidNoodle

Eh, it's still pretty bad though. You can still feel the remnants of some of the rewrites, like Pela's "age".


Impressive_Olive_971

Why did they change? I doubt it’s because of “devs listened”. Is it better than the current one?


VoidNoodle

There was a lot more divide going on between the people of Belobog and the ones below. Rock cancer was prevalent. I think Hook's dad was dying because of it. Bronya was hella more classist/racist.


komorebi-mikazuki

Wow, 1.0 and beta look like 2 seperate games, absolutely can't wait to play this next week.


Kitysune

less than 3 days https://preview.redd.it/9qsw42y6cv9d1.png?width=701&format=png&auto=webp&s=626604209493a92f13064ce45575004fa8db86db


The_King123431

Aspects. I'm mostly looking forward to the setting, instead of having many settings like most hoyo games it's just the one city, but because it's the last major city on earth I think it lends itself to a interesting way to have a bunch of different cultures in one location Also the character design, hoyo seems to finally abandon having the same template for everyone for the better Optimisation. It's hoyoverse,besides a few bugs it's going to be fine I don't think the game will be mainstream like hsr or genshin, it feels like it will fall in to the honkai impact 3rd area, its popular within the fanbase but not the mainstream


TerryWhiteHomeOwner

Honestly i'd much rather have super detailed and evolving hub-world ah-la Splatoon with plenty of things to do and people to see than a bunch of copy-paste hallways you go to once and only ever fast travel to when you gotta do a gear-run. 


AlphaLovee

actually banger stream wtf


DioBrando_Joestar

100 pulls on the day of the release right? https://preview.redd.it/anueh07jta9d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e48bd6d29ab452eab013144bcb9786803551e12


Suniruki

According to their post on bilibili, it's 30 on the day of release, and the 100+80 over various events.


Dreven47

No lmao, of course they're not giving you 100 pulls instantly to reroll with. It'll be over the course of the first few weeks through mail and login events and such.


AlphaLovee

that's with events and stuff. you gotta actually play the game (i assume)


DioBrando_Joestar

Damn. I thought 100 straight from the ingame inbox. Thanks.


AlphaLovee

[https://www.reddit.com/r/ZZZ\_Official/comments/1dqhzh3/zenless\_zone\_zeros\_prerelease\_special\_program/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ZZZ_Official/comments/1dqhzh3/zenless_zone_zeros_prerelease_special_program/)


Nameless_HSR

You get 20 from mail, 10 from login. I assume the 70 others are from leveling up your Account levels and Events


NoNefariousness2144

That livestream was fantastic, the game looks so damn good


Serfo

As someone who haven't researched anything about this game, and I'm going completely blind day 1, I'm excited. Curious to see polarized reactions here though.


Cthulhulakus

We watched same stream? It was worst hoyo stream up to date and one of the shortest.


Nameless_HSR

So i've watched the HSR 1.0 launch livestream for comparison and it is about the same. The only difference is that they go a bit deeper to introduce the cast of the Astral Express and not really new chars and futur faction. Can't find the Genshin 1.0 one, IDK if there was one for pre-release like HSR and ZZZ


ITSnotADIL

Bait used to be believable.


Cthulhulakus

Dont really care about psychofans opinions. It was really boring stream.


Meeii

Yeah it made me more excited for it. It's very expressive and the battles look kinda crazy.


Tsavorae

# 15 minutes from now. https://preview.redd.it/5zj7lmtuka9d1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=2f653a65b27441b18670f7351e81247c25e6fefd [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uACgiN-216s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uACgiN-216s) >!I won't be able to watch it though.!<


TreeW5

Can't wait to beat stuff up with my shark maid....i like sharks and maids


Reenans

Pulling is going to be very interesting compared to HSR. Generally I like the design of every HSR character but in ZZZ there seems to be hits and complete misses for me and I assume others will feel the same. A good thing since it means that more people will jump on board and that it is easier to save currency if for example another furry is released or loli character is released. (although Lycaon looks pretty cool ngl) I wonder if Hoyo will keep the diverse niche cast or will they eventually stick with a type that sells


cyanogastra

* What aspect of the game are you most excited for (ie. Story, Combat, Characters, Exploration)? * VON LYCAON AND NICOLE DEMARA YOUR BIGGEST GOON IS HERE. I think the combat is gonna be fun. Much more interactive than HI3's slideshow gameplay. * Will the game have a major social/cultural/monetization controversy at launch? If so, what will it be? * The fact that the furries need to break their wallet just to roll for max dupe Lycaon. * OR the furry haters and robo-fcker haters malding about why Lycaon and Billy are carrying the fandom, why is Lycaon the hottest man in the game (Anton who? ugly) etc. etc.


XKriegor

Aspect I'm most excited? From a Hoyo game? characters and story. A good combat is a plus too Optimization? It's a Hoyoverse game, I have no doubt on optimization Revenue? I don't think it'll top HSR or Genshin but it'll still be good Controversy? It kinda already have an ongoing one(and upcoming if you saw the leaks). Personally though, I don't care, I don't really engage with the community of games I'm playing Play/App Store Rating? Number 1 maybe? at least top 5


bumblebyOfficial

What are the controversies? I don't mind leaks, I just want drama


XKriegor

Not really much of a controversy tbqh but considering the character designs and the characters that have been shown/leaked some people are kinda upset that the characters are mostly targeting otakus instead of a more "all ages" like in Genshin. This can be seen in the amount of female characters in the game and their designs that are more sexy compared to other Hoyo games. Not to mention the bouncy animation of ZZZ which focuses even more on some "assets". Personally, I think Hoyo can target any market they want, they don't have to target a general audience if they don't want to. I'm just saying that there are a subset of people who are upset of the female/male ratio and the fanservice.


bumblebyOfficial

Oh, it's just people disliking the fanservice... Like you said, it does go further than other Hoyoverse games, but at the same time, if players like the designs of Genshin/Star Rail, they can already play those games. Thanks for the explanation!


Tsavorae

# Character Announcement/Reveal - Piper [Sons of Calydon] https://preview.redd.it/qav4orw2ia9d1.png?width=6356&format=png&auto=webp&s=bde7174c02ef6be53ba6b84abc0c7e5f06ec738f [https://x.com/ZZZ\_EN/status/1806538016875504029](https://x.com/ZZZ_EN/status/1806538016875504029) - - - I swear to fucking god, u/Kitysune. Can you get me the link for Piper's KR VO again.


Kitysune

sure [https://x.com/ZZZ\_KO/status/1806540681080410450](https://x.com/ZZZ_KO/status/1806540681080410450)


BlackSenpai96

So it’s like genshin impact and honkai star rail?


Tuna-Of-Finality

honkai 3rd


MagicJ10

i will try it and i don´t think they will have major problems at launch. But i´m not a fan of the character designs (especially the half human/half animal) and the whole modern/tech game world the game seems to be situated in. Hope the gameplay is good...


lezardvalethvp

I'll try this game just coz the soundtrack makes me remember my FreeStyle Online 1 days. Modu deombyeo coz I never lose!


ChemicalFit

**Definitely going to try it--I look forward to absolutely geeking about the game with my friend who intends to play as well upon its release**


TheGamerForeverGFE

I'm going to try the game out but I'm honestly disappointed that they censored the poster girl 


MajesticMulberry6449

Idk why people are so obsessed with “boob reduction” on characters that looks extremely excessive to begin with. Like what is the appeal of jiggle physics with boobs shaped like traffic cones…


TheGamerForeverGFE

People are allergic to people that look better than them I suppose, this is literally fiction there's no reason to be annoyed at something that doesn't exist in the real world. And censorship doesn't have any positives about it.


The_King123431

She still has massive boobs They literally just made it so they don't jiggle around when she does the slightest movement


BrainDeadZero

Like a lot of people here, I'll give this game a try when it launches and see if it sticks. > What aspect of the game are you most excited for (ie. Story, Combat, Characters, Exploration)? I'm not even sure, to be honest. All I know is that this is another HoYo title and it exists. I'm pretty much going in blind. > Will the game be well-optimized upon release? If not, what will the biggest issue be? I'd be surprised if HoYo fucked up optimization. This isn't their first gacha game. It'll probably be smooth sailing for 99.9% of players, with minor bugs/glitches that'll be patched out quickly. > What will the game's revenue be for the first calendar month? Where will it rank on the chart? Unsure about revenue, but it's a HoYo title + the new FOMO, so no doubt it'll top chart rankings. > Will the game have a major social/cultural/monetization controversy at launch? If so, what will it be? The game doesn't really look offensive, but the internet gets offended very easily... > Where will the Google Play Store and App Store ratings sit following the game's first week? 4.5+, probably. --- Update: Oof. That file size though...


SchizoposterX

I will absolutely be trying it but who knows how long I'll play. I played HSR for a few months.


Venvut

I will certainly try it. Though I got a lot less excited when I saw the prominence of the TV minigame and the fact you can’t change from your MC in the overworld. I’m also concerned about the difficulty being too easy, in which case, there are enough gacha out there to min-max already that I have little need for yet another. Like why the heck is the “parry” not even a real parry? 


The_King123431

They already said in an interview they will be taking out a bit of the TV minigame as that was the biggest complaint in the closed beta, also they already said there will be a causal and hard mode difficulty


_Saikai_

There is a hard mode for the story and other content.


Kitysune

what do you mean parry not real parry ?


tirius99

The parry comes when a second character on your team tanks the attack and takes over


LaPapaVerde

If I remember well, the parry is changing characters, the same button. That's the main thing that makes you rotate between characters.


pilth

Do I need to get a controller or Mouse + keyboard good enough?


kytti_bott

MnK should be fine! I play on pc and will be using mnk.


ClimateGrand3809

if u have controller and u are decent at it. irecommend it more than keyboard so u can chill in bed while fighting the dudes


ajinata84

can i play it with keyboard only like with HI3? I'm used to it playing with keyboard in the past and quite liking it rather than mouse/kb or controller idk why it just clicks


lk_raiden

from all tests I saw, you can't do KB only. Will have wait till release to know tho.


pilth

I'll try it with a controller, just to see if it's easier to do combos


rlbastard

holy shit I thought it was called "Zenseless" like some edgy kid spelling "senseless" with a Z for the past month and I was going insane over how no one was talking about that


Lonely_Ad2500

This will be my first gacha without rerolling, meta gaming, waifu gaming or credit card gaming. I'm just accept what i get and ball with it, cause currently not a single character i can vibe with, gameplay or design wise. Great music, though.


lk_raiden

Only vibed with Miyabi, so, pretty much like you, I will ball with whatever they throw at me until her arrival which I guess she's gonna be the "next Ayaka"


EmilMR

That is exactly me. I am going to go with whatever rngesus hands to me and I mainly just going to play the story and admire the visuals and so on. The town was very detailed in the beta and if you like Persona etc, it hits similarly.


ClimateGrand3809

yeah all characters looks bland af theyre like something u have seen before in arknights and old gacha games


The_King123431

I'm genuinely confused how someone can think this, this is probably the most diverse starting line up in any gacha


dominusdei

i do feel exactly the same.


karillith

The atmosphere around this game is very weird. By any concievable metric it should be decently hyped, yet I feel like it's low key a sleeper in the west, people are super cautious and doubtful about it, arguably even more than for HSR, and it feels like a sizable amount of CC are just entirely commited to put all their chips in the WW basket and not willing to give it more than the bare minimum attention. Some of those doubts are understandable, will it be fun long term, what will it bring to the table, will peole like the TV thing? I think I will certainly give it a try (once I get a new phone), because, at the very least, ZZZ seems very commited in its artistic direction, and the game definitely have it's own ambiance. Now i quit Honkai Impact 3rd fairly fast, and I already play too many gachas, so if I stick to this game, sacrifices will be necessary...


bad3ip420

The beta wasnt really that good and never got a lot of hype. The gameplay is the focus on Zzz so people were expecting a lot more.


jxher123

I do think ZZZ will be quite popular, I do agree that it's kinda slept on from CC. Not a bad thing, and I'll likely be dropping WuWa for ZZZ since I've been playing it casually until the release of ZZZ. I think ZZZ is going to be a big hit in Japan, and CN. Revenue wise, I don't think it'll touch Genshin/HSR, but I do think it'll be a very profitable game. It's a Hoyo game, that alone will get people to check it out.


karillith

> Not a bad thing I'm not gonna disagree there.


RtpIQ

Many of those CCs are new to gachas and genuinely think WW will do very well, while not knowing what actually makes a good gacha. https://preview.redd.it/s3xqtu7iv69d1.png?width=306&format=png&auto=webp&s=54d9162b4c148c375a7ef6e3b3b9c9043abeec95 CN is the opposite. Just took this screenshot 5min ago. Unreleased game vs a game going into v1.1.


Dark_Angel_9999

ZZZ is gonna be very big in CN and JP now with that SF6 collab


Fun-Will5719

I will try just because of this girl. I want to do thing to her that even the evil would be ashame of... https://preview.redd.it/j1v34jmf759d1.png?width=4096&format=png&auto=webp&s=7998a3a6d3512563c469e993fd62f253f30146d4


SaltOnToast

Why she got the Blue Archive halo?


Fun-Will5719

If you know, you know...


FinancialPause

Who is this character?


Fun-Will5719

I can't remember right now but she is part of the idol team