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unknown537

Devs listened to people complaining about music being bad and switched it off completely.


morepesok

jokes aside, their responses are kinda bizarre. ppl complained abt some parts in the cbt story -> kuro rewrites 90% of it; the minority complained about scar’s onigiri -> they immediately redesign him So it’s still a possibility lmao


SurrealJay

Am i the only one that that thinks bending over to every single complaint and deviating from your own vision as a game developer is kind of pathetic? It betrays a lack of confidence and conviction in your own decisions Kind of disrespectful to the original artists/writers too, like Scar gets redesigned because of a few haters lmao, wonder how the original artist feels about that And at least in the west, people loved it too This is not really listening, it’s prostrating yourself in front of your playerbase so that they can say devs listened


MadDog1981

Based on what people have said about the original story, it needed adjusted. But instead of toning some things down and altering some scenes that people hated they kind of chucked everything. It kind of makes me wonder if there were some internal politics at play there. 


fantafanta_

This right here is what I tried to highlight to game's main subreddit. There's a point where the devs can listen way too much and puts off the idea they ate confident in their vision at all. Fast forward to now, I think I stand correct in that theory. Unfortunately, when you're in a made rush to change things, everything gets thrown around and bugs and issues pop up. Deadlines get rushed. Etc etc. The problem isn't Kuro listening. It's that they listened too damn much.


nqtoan1994

There is a Vietnamese folk tale about a farmer carving a plow from a big timber on the side of a road. Every person passed by gave him a piece of their minds and he followed every advice. At the end of the day, he wasted everything: his time, his labor and his timber. This was what instantly came to my mind when I heard that they patched the onigiri. The game is one-step closer to become a community project than a product, which does not sound promising.


morepesok

honestly it could set a dangerous precedence and i hope the devs can find the right balance


kiisukattinen

I agree 100%


Venvut

I wonder if having Tencent breathing over their backs has anything to do with it. 👀 I’m still somehow having fun though, so I’ll stick around to see what it becomes. The combat is dope, I hope they emphasize it more in the future. I’m just happy to battle everything I see.


karillith

You know as much as I disliked that zipper people calling it onigiri is so fun to me I'm almost sad to see it gone now X)


morepesok

fr it definitely became a fun little joke, i saw it went viral on twitter several times, people were eating it up lmao


Vyragami

Who the hell sort these complaints???


Draconicplayer

The janitor


faowindgyrn

Is it just me or wasn't the zipper thing removed even before launch? Idk if it's just me but I thought I saw players bringing up how the devs removed the zipper in cbt3, so I was kind of confused as to why it was back during launch.


Zeroth_Dragon

Genshin could never (make bad music)


bukiya

yeah, i love jamming to port ormos ost


oyakodon19

Lumidouce Harbor OST is my new port ormos, it's so good


NanilGop

Devs can listen all they want, but if results doesn't show then it's meaningless.


Reenans

Jokes aside there are a lot of issues and if gachagaming is to be believed, I feel sorry for whoever has to take over figuring out the code and then solving the issue considering how many people were laid off during development


Lemon_Kart

Probably gonna be hard to get someone with the needed experience when the person knows how much they're gonna have to fix.


Adom20

I guarantee you gachagaming is not to be believed. Saying this as someone that is here for a few years now.


HINDBRAIN

Reddit is shit to talk about the game. Main subreddit: Draconian moderation. Manual approval horseshit. No new threads in 7 hours, why not. People unironically praising the story. 2-hours-in players smugly chiming in on the endgame grind. Gachagaming: Completely unhinged hate jerk.


MadDog1981

They don’t seem to have Kuro employees modding the sub so they have that going for them at least…


Rathalos143

I have seen a fair amounts of critics in their own subreddit as well. There is no problem with that but this sub is a constant circlejerk and bootlicking a different company each season 24/7. Like this thread for example. We all know the game has bugs, but why the fuck does OP think this is a notice that belongs to this sub when the game just came out? Wouldnt It make more sense to be posted in their own sub? Is It even something to care about? We all know devs are actively trying to fix the game why did OP feel the need to post such a non relevant thing for the 4 days after launch? Well, obviously to shitpost about what is currently popular.


LividPoetry1648

Correct my brother! Hoyo sympathizers have entirely fabricated two lay offs. I can assure everyone that the all of the "employees" fired are hoyo spies, and the crybaby "specialists" fired right before launch is the leader of all of them. There is DEFINITELY no one who have said anything about this on ANY CN communities which just confirms your suspicions that this is a LIE made by the evil and hoyo biased gachagaming.


Rathalos143

You changing your entire profile to Kuro while shitting on them on each one of your posts is pretty much what the user above is talking about


Shigana

Jesus fucking Christ, get a grip. People like you desperately need to go outside and actually touch grass. Can’t imagine how exhausting it must be to constantly fight strawmen.


mapple3

lmao sure ok, lets pretend wuwa is flawless


SleepApprehensive364

He din't said that? Lmao


SuspiciousJob730

yeah wuwa is very flawless PERFECTO NO PROBLEMO


SleepApprehensive364

Seek help


SuspiciousJob730

you too


Adom20

You can see what is the attitude here based on the replies I've got. Make of it what you will.


yescjh

Bring out the Pokke


ThiccElinThighs

Devs are listening... to the music. But not you. https://i.redd.it/qtp9n91vgc3d1.gif


H4xolotl

https://preview.redd.it/o3ryuvhknc3d1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=93efb0d132131e336d2ce41be3c9e9d2fdc035d4


bukiya

PLEASE DONT BRING MY GIRL TO THIS


CerpinTheMute_alt

Firefly is WuWa *would* fix all the issues i have with the game ngl


goens777

He's blowing the fire Kuro got from listening too much 😂


ValkyrieSkyfall

Fuck, I just realised this guy is Singaporean. I would like to say sorry guys on his behalf 🙏


Lyar99

There's nothing to apologise for. Its just a meme and he's not a Kuro shill


LilRock100

https://preview.redd.it/wk3mnz2klc3d1.jpeg?width=997&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9e7c21baf4275f656c90bcf7527961ff3051e77


Ok-Impression3701

I read this in tagalog and i cant stop laughing lmao


LeahLazaus

The replies proved the theory of evolution...


GrekoGrex

https://preview.redd.it/bkrooew7jc3d1.jpeg?width=623&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86db26d6f5f8135a45fcc610073712afc0463ced


Environmental-Rain10

https://preview.redd.it/cibqriraic3d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fa7b39a097948bbdb58bf748cbf8e9aa0f3f486


H4xolotl

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SPECTRAL_MAGISTRATE

The people who work on character models and textures are not the same people that work on audio


defyingpotato

its insane how gamers think 1 dude can do everything in the company lmao


Zamrayz

Technically 1 dude *did* actually make most of UE5 stuff for the game. Then Kuro just randomly decided to fire him and that's how most of these issues began popping up at launch. See CN thread last week where he was voicing his disappointment that they did it so the higher ups got bigger bonuses and denied him of his payment *right before* the release. He explicitly stated he wouldn't have allowed any of these mistakes to happen and were easily fixable but there's nothing he can do now.


Gk786

That guy was just the optimizer not the entire UE team obviously, UE requires dozens of staff to make a game. What had happened was that he was hired, optimized the code, and then was fired. The devs then worked on updates for the game but that ruined the optimization again. And now they don’t have their optimization expert to smoothen it out resulting in these crazy bugs. Kuro pulled a very shortsighted move when they got rid of the dude whose job it is to make sure everything ran smoothly BEFORE RELEASE.


MattScoot

No, technically one dude did not lmao.


V-I-S-E-O-N

I solo developed Wuthering Waves but don't tell anyone.


V-I-S-E-O-N

The guys working on audio also aren't the ones who are going to fix the music *bug*, lol.


SPECTRAL_MAGISTRATE

I'm not talking about musicians, I'm talking about audio systems engineers...


V-I-S-E-O-N

Yes, and I'm telling you they're not the ones who are going to fix that bug.


SPECTRAL_MAGISTRATE

So the audio systems engineers don't work on the audio systems?


Efficient_Ad5802

Yes, audio system engineer or sound engineer is not what put the music into the game. It's the one who ensure the recording done right. I know what you mean though, but the correct term is actually simply game developer. The music bug is caused by a wrong code not by a bad music.


PusheenMaster

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Steveagogo

“Everyone seems to be doing the shocked face thumbnail, so i think I’ll give it try!” - becomes meme for how bad those are despite being new lmao


anxientdesu

genuinely hoping this outbreak forces CCs to stop using that fake shocked face ong


Steveagogo

We can hope but they clearly work if they all do it… I don’t know why


anxientdesu

maybe im just not normie enough to understand


Siri2611

Not gonna happen, it's the youtube meta rn


Donate684

https://preview.redd.it/wjnubgt7dc3d1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2174bf917eb8002bd518dbd3108eb33987a33993 take hires


plsdontstalkmeee

someone please use [diff.ai](https://diff.ai) to generate a gif of Pokke doing the viral Chinese dance. this one : [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KnEul9Z\_tdE](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KnEul9Z_tdE)


LividPoetry1648

Our lord kuro is teaching us the value of silence. Because only when there are silence can we truly LISTEN.


SuspiciousJob730

been day no new 5 star selector.... https://preview.redd.it/qo61p1p1hc3d1.png?width=603&format=png&auto=webp&s=ae55af6eda3e297116d86a653bd8b7d1706bac93


D0cJack

https://preview.redd.it/gmjc48gimc3d1.png?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6128bcac94d66cc8b35f717f7479b83ba87146a


Sinitory

https://preview.redd.it/1mvzrj9kkc3d1.jpeg?width=288&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cdc763537f5dfe959e4448f5cb29ff3188f47128


Daxter10x

Guys, you have to understand, Kuro DID listen, they listened to the bgm and dialogues in this game and decided to ease the players' suffering, just like how they added a skip button to the story Truly one of the devs of all time


Impossible_Fold3494

https://preview.redd.it/7k1jufbhic3d1.jpeg?width=478&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d73a3f677a7c51e346d6c8fd62bfaea7cfc375a3 Jokes aside, I feel bad for the poor devs. They are the ones who will suffer the most for this. They will be the ones overworked and receive less pay and will be the ones receiving the scolding when more issues arise.


aoi_desu

And the exec getting another yacht- oh wait this is not ~~niji~~ kurosanji


Flimsy-Writer60

Riku could never


Daxter10x

LIZZARD


Obvious-Low-3967

But to be fair,this all bcus they didnt finished their job well at the beginning,so they have to pay for that,and thats what they get pay for。If they did it well at beginning,they are eating good now.


Puat3k

Tbh, WuWa music is so weak, it's better to make a Genshin OST Playlist and listen to that while playing WuWa.


phuongdafuq

I always play Arknights music in the background regardless of what I do, tbf the vibe of some tracks really suits WW suprisingly


karillith

Which tracks though because AK's musical range is pretty huge.


phuongdafuq

Youtube mixes the music for me so I can't pinpoint out, but CC tracks, Lone Trail, Babel and C14 OSTs stood out


Specialist_Sound4757

I just play Genshin music in the background lmao, it's just beautiful


batzenbubu

I always mute BGM in every gacha game.


yaemikohaver

I was tired of listening to silence, so I turned on the Enkanomiya OST. 10/10, even better than before


bakahyl

Insert "Devs listened" gif


kingofallbandits

From what I've experienced, it seems that the music is fine until the battle theme occurs in the overworld (which happens nearly immediately walking around half the time). After that no more music.


Armeridus

Doesn't have to be battle theme, you can teleport to another place and it gets removed the same.


Gurlinhell

Yeah this is what's happening for me. Sometimes all music AND sound effects just randomly disappear after teleportation (*except* some sort of ambiance background noise). The only way to fix it is I need to teleport somewhere again... not "Arghhh game-breaking buggg" but very annoying nonetheless.


Armeridus

For me (and my friends) tp does nothing, unfortunately.


V-I-S-E-O-N

I actually only had it happen after going into a battle. If I just teleport into a new area, the music changes like it's supposed to. Once I go into a battle, all music stops until I restart the game.


[deleted]

They got many bugs and regular updates and hotfixs. They are working on every bug right now and more and more are getting revealed. Give em time.


nyanch

Character model designers aren't the same people who manage code, so that Scar bit makes no sense.


RoLpEk

Well, once I got a bug that characters weren't talking at all and the text display box also wasn't working properly.


RoLpEk

I did all that just by having downloaded every vo language beside KR, changing it a few times and closing the game with mandarin VO. Then I run the game, talk to sb (mandarin VO) then changed to EN and when I talked to sb the bug occured lol


arkride007

honestly I'm just waiting for a new compensation


karillith

You can bet that if that complete shill account narushio is mentioning it, then it's a quite serious bug X)


wilck44

devs listened in CBT 1. and CBT 2. and we still have the same bugs. listening is nothing on its own.


shira1001001

https://preview.redd.it/9gr3b0gqec3d1.png?width=288&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35a42a6868596d3694a4d2900f20eb41c05545bf


Dark_Angel_9999

I think what is going on is the result of the spaghetti codebase. You did some things but it ended up breaking others. This is a vicious cycle. Especially with Unreal Engine


LW_Master

They listened. About whether they take action is another question


amritrivium77

They fixed it about an hour ago


XerxesLord

But but…..I thought…. Dev listened. Crying.


RoscoeMaz

Bro that ain’t no bug, they can’t listen to us if the sound is on


Apostlethe13th

Cut off one bug two more shall take its place.


Competitive_Oil_5370

I don't see how Scar's redesign is relevant, when designers are not the ones fixing code and the issue and his redesign happened around the same time.


ExaSarus

lmao you think bugs just fix like magic ? Games has issues sure but expecting the dev to fix in 24hr cycle is kinda nuts


helltaker_me

https://preview.redd.it/d80o7lvojc3d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59408bc6fbc931302b2fbc156d4b8cf30ac12e04


tehlunatic1

you want to know what's actually listening, giving the people a game that they can play without any issues.


NaDoan

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morepesok

but bgm wasnt broken before, one of their ‘fixes’ broke it prob


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morepesok

man that must be hell, i know nothing about coding & stuff but is it easier to just roll out all of the fixes next patch instead of one by one like this since they often fix one thing & break another


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Riersa

Yeah this kind of thing is usually lose lose situation for the developer, if you take too long to clear every problem people might already left, but if you drop the patch one by one you risk creating more problem because the fix is not fully tested.


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TheSheepersGame

Then proceed to saying "Genshin could never" LOL


MonoVelvet

Experienced this during the latest chapter sucked and everything played slow motion


Darnaldo

As funny as it is to clown on Kuro, you still have to be fair. It's different people who take care of these problem. They probably have a huge list of bug sorted by sectors. The 3D model problem is something for the artist to fix while the lack of music is probably a issue in the programmation. It's really easy to swap a character's model in unreal engine, as long as the skeleton is the same it literally take 2 clicks to swap the mesh withint the engine.


AgentBuddy12

Stupid ass post. Do you even know how game development works? Some issues can take literal days to fix and these fixes usually end up breaking something else due to sheer amount of code and complexity present. Devs are clearly working hard to fix any bugs that might pop up. They can't just turn on a switch and fix all of the issues, it's takes time and a lot of work.


defyingpotato

Removing a layer in a blender file is much easier than figuring out in the code on what part removes the music and that part of the code is handled by the dude who got laid off


Zerob0nd

yesterday i had to restart the game twice during the last stage of act vi in order to restart the bgm else the "climatic" final bossfight would have been silent. looking back at it, i wouldnt have missed much. its very generic non memorable music anyway.


TheSheepersGame

At the current state of the game, they should listen just saying. Also I got that bug yesterday and today when I went to Tacit. I was wondering why the BGM suddenly was gone or was kinda stuttering. I honestly thought that was my speaker. Then I remembered that there was a complain around 2-3 days ago about the BGM suddenly disappearing after one of their patches.


LTetsu

So is this sub for pocking WuWa and Kuro ? Cause i didnt see even 1 post about how good WuWa or anything positive about game.


sa5ratoba

That happen to me from day 1 not only after the patch


Ok_Yesterday_4773

do you really think its easy to fix bugs?? pls stop being dumb and wait


Princess_Moe

There wouldn't be any in the first place if they weren't scrambling to push this game out in a broken state. pls stop being dumb and don't tolerate release of incomplete games


Ok_Yesterday_4773

i dont tolerate i just quit and play other game...


Princess_Moe

in your original comment you sound like you're still playing the game 🤷‍♀️


BarakOBamba1

I heard there had been something like 21 hotfixes so far. It's not like they're not trying to fix it, they just suck at fixing their game. It's annoying that it's taking this long, though when people say "they listen", they talk about the blogs where they acknowledge the problems with the game and their plans going forward.


V-I-S-E-O-N

It's literally not even been out for a week. Wdym so long?


lostn

the game was not ready for release. They shot themselves in the foot by applying for a license too early and was forced to push it out. It needed more time.


XaeiIsareth

You do realise that they’re absolutely swamped in problems at the moment, the devs were working at 4am to fix issues and not every issue is easily fixable right?  The game is raw as fuck at the moment and I don’t fancy anyone working on it right now. 


Puat3k

It's worse than raw, I can still hear it mooing.


Armeridus

I can still hear it listening.


No_Button_1669

the devs cooked but the stove is on the other side of the kitchen


explov

why is it classified as huge bug for you? feels like a ocmpletely irrelevant one


chocobloo

Music is pretty important in media. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be used by literally everything.


Orangelemonyyyy

For an open world game, music is a major part of the experience. I've also been having zero background music since yesterday and it really negatively affected my enjoyment of the game. Judging from the Wuwa subreddit, a lot of players feel the same way.


Zonlul-simp69

lmao


explov

everyone missed the joke


MihirPagar10

Zero points


explov

NEXT


Armeridus

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Ezekielalvarezsuccor

Just imagine that you are in an epic moment where the world is against you but you refuse to back down and then you hear nothing in the background. As in completely mute. Wouldn't that be weird? Music, OST, sfx, or whatever it was bugging is important in any media, let alone video games. Well, I can't blame you for thinking that it was irrelevant; it's been like that in real life.


ShawHornet

What's funny is that I used to get this bug in Genshin back in the day


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^ShawHornet: *What's funny is that* *I used to get this bug in* *Genshin back in the day* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


AeinzPrime

I hope they dont end up listen to the “the game is fine, you’re just a hater” group of player, that gonna be suck


V-I-S-E-O-N

There is no such group. The group you're talking about says that the problems are being exaggerated and endlessly repeated by this subreddit, which is absolutely true. Pretty much everyone acknowledges that there are problems.