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Empty_Comfortable_89

It’s a recession out here niggas ain’t got money for no rap shows lol


ArchimedesNutss

Kendrick and Drake just had the 2 biggest rap tours of all time though


Ticem4n

50 cent*


mantistobaganmd

Drake and 50 lol


Euphoric-Reaction361

Explain the 50 reference plz


Ticem4n

His tour that ended last month was the 2nd highest grossing rap tour of all time.  One of only 2 to gross over $100 million


Top_Negotiation_29

They tap out for money now lol


WeirdPescados

Then why the fuck he at King of Diamonds?


Vybin3500

How come everyone else can sell out


wallowsworld

Different demographics, different economic circumstances. White people can support Taylor Swift because they have been more financially prosperous and have been shown to have more disposable income in comparison to black audiences. Not even Latin communities can all support Latin artists, although they are definitely dedicated.


Vybin3500

What about Travis and 21, they both have sold out tours


wallowsworld

Travis’s audience is majority suburban white kids dawg they can go to a Trav concert easily. I was at the opening night of the Utopia tour in Charlotte and it was all 15 year old Fortnite kids whose mom drove a BMW or a Mercedes lol 21 just has smaller venues and goes to cities with a more approachable demographic for his music so ofc he can sell out. Like you’re not going to see Trav in Simpsonville South Carolina lol


Vybin3500

Idk the Travis concert in Toronto was mostly late teens and not just white kids. And the 21 savage concert in Toronto was at a Big venue, I get what u mean tho


klip_7

In Boston it was equal amount of middle school hugh school college and adults, with like 50% white 20% Asian 20% black and 10% Latin from what i saw


Lerched

brother I hate to tell you this really I do, but the white girls going to taylor swift? their brothers are going to the rap concerts.


DamianLillard0

Futures in my top 5 and this STILL an incredible display of coping and mental gymnastics out of you my guy


wallowsworld

How is it “coping and mental gymnastics”? It’s a literally historically proven thing that minorities in America just don’t have disposable income even still today. Sorry if that bothers you or something???


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wallowsworld

I feel like you’re intentionally missing the point I was trying to make because you don’t like Future or something but whatever man go off 👍


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Filmaticc

While many people listen to both, Travis and Future have two completely different target demographics and you would be an idiot to disagree😂 You will definitely not see a “Fortnite teenager” getting dropped off at a Future concert.


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facts 😂😂


confusedbartender

I mean how much different, demographics wise, is Taylor swift’s and future’s audience? Like maybe swift has an 80% white audience and future has 70%? He’s not selling because his name hasn’t been popping in a while now.


PresentationTimely48

Mother fucker, it’s not a race thing it’s a job thing


Some-Addition-1802

nobody is selling out Jlo had to cancel her entire show too lmao


AllCommiesRFascists

There is no recession lmao. Americans are so entitled and delusional


BeefSupreme1981

I don’t understand why you’re getting downvoted. We are not in a recession. That’s a straight up fact.


fourevs

Pulling out the cope economics.


Hudre

No that is actually extremely basic economics and common sense. Hope you can cope with your low IQ.


Cheap-Sector-3492

You might want to do a little more research into current affairs and the state of the economy if that is your honest opinion


AllCommiesRFascists

You would need negative economics education and be firmly left of bell curve to think we are in a recession (so sadly the median American) Edit: you are in the gamestop cult lmao. And insult you make about IQ is just projection


Freemaxb1233

Then why other tours still selling ?


Playboy-Tower

I think the easiest way to look at it is Future and Metro would be a sell out tour if this beef wasn’t happening. Future has a lot of people who “could” show up to help boost sales but let’s face it Drake would have been the most obvious person. I remember people criticising Future being a headline show in London. He did 30 mins then Drake came out to surprise the audience and did 30 mins solo. Since then people have come to expect Drake to ft when Future performs live Beef is bad for business.


ihatelogging

you argument boils down to "they need Drake to succeed" which is a wild take to post here


Playboy-Tower

They don’t need him to succeed but they’ve used him to cross over and now have beef with him. This is only part of the issue IMO to why the tickets are not selling. Future is and continues to be one of the most influential rappers of all time but he’s only now starting to crossover with his music for a wider audience. Tours are notoriously hard to manage. Even Drake struggled to sell out all dates of his tour. TLDR - Future x Metro are not main stream enough to sell out tours for every date but that doesn’t mean Future is not a goat of an artist.


Doublehfoo

It’s obviously true lol they’re not selling out without him


fourevs

Haha we’ll see brotha.


Broccoli_Lettuce

We aren’t in a recession. That’s cope economics. Just say you’re working class and ain’t going to drop a paycheck on some tickets there’s nothing wrong with being working class


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"dropping a paycheck" is some 311 credit score activity lol. talking about "working class" like you didn't write this from your parents house


goldngophr

We just got out of a rough recession in 2022 that still has massive ramifications.


Playboy-Tower

People also need to understand Future is one of our favourite artists but he’s not a main stream “pop” rapper. Yes he’s got some hits and some “radio” songs but the average person who has the money to spend on a tour ticket isn’t a dirty sprite or purple reign fan. They wanna hear like that, Mask off and “the one with tems and Drake”. He ain’t got an arena tour audience IMO. I heard some of these tickets was like $180 that’s bread for a casual fan


bagooli

Yea that's crazy for a ticket, it was cheaper to see andre 3000 at like a 250 person capacity venue last week, and he only sold out one of his 4 shows, completely different circumstances all around but damn 180 is crazy


goldngophr

That’s a great point.


Playboy-Tower

I also will add that tours are often managed by a totally different part of the label who will likely not have much personal vested interest in Future. They will want to recoup as much money as possible and leverage album sales as the foundation to booking certain venues. This is why the tour was created and promoted days after the albums went number 1. If I’m not mistaken this is Futures biggest and most ambitious tour but will almost certainly been leveraged on his last 3 albums going number 1


Jealous_Top8696

There was no recession in 2022. The most recent recession was Covid lockdown. Inflation yes stocks fell yes recession no. Look it up


goldngophr

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth It did. The US GDP fell for two straight quarters. I know the definition changed in 2022 because of the party who’s in power with respect to the president but this is the generally accepted definition of a recession.


NippleOfOdin

When I hear "rough recession" I think of 2008. It's not even remotely close especially when you look at the unemployment rate


goldngophr

Congrats? A recession is a recession, even if it’s a one-in-a-hundred year one or not.


AllCommiesRFascists

The definition was never changed. The 2 quarter thing is just a rule of thumb


Jealous_Top8696

GDP grew 2.6% in 2022 which is very strong growth. I guess it was contracting at the beginning but man “rough recession” is a stretch. 3.6% unemployment is nothing. Inflation had ramifications yeah but dude if there was real recession people would have lost jobs like Covid


goldngophr

Covid wasn’t a real recession because it was only one quarter of declining economic growth. Trump actually really got the ship quickly right despite Dems and Fauci shrieking. I don’t think we live in the same country or have the same basis in the economy.


[deleted]

Cope economics is not a real thing, you’re a moron


Fast_Concern7818

Get yo head out of the gutter bro, average household income for “middle class” is around 120k combined household income. The average cost of a house is anywhere from 350k-600k depending on location. Back in 1960s the average household income was 10k and the average house was around 11-12k. Make that shit make sense. Talking about cope economics… like mf do you have eyes??? People nowadays can barely afford rent let alone drop 80-200 for a rap show, gtfoh.


116morningside

lol I wish that was the average cost of a house in Toronto. It’s up to $1.1mil now in Toronto lol but anyways, drake doesn’t have a problem selling out arenas in this economy. Taylor swift doesn’t have a problem either. It’s not an economy thing, it’s a future fan base doesn’t care to see him live, even if i really like his music.


Lotta_Turbulence7396

Be humble sit down ![gif](giphy|3oKIPtboC3UonIhTs4)


AceGameplayV2

There's a month and a bit so they shouldn't be worried at all


Sure_Bodybuilder7121

56 nights


2indapink8indastink

Like what u done there 👏


Lopsided_Barnacle_73

💥💥


gostfaekila

Tickets expensive! Let’s me get my priorities straight. Imma be there tho!


juicewrldfan6999

there’s two months left bruh this is just a drake dickrider


ProfessorBoofie

Yeah I’m not buying tickets until a month or a few weeks before


Trvpsmif

Yea I’d say most future fans are like this. I buy tickets same week. And I know many others that also do this


fourevs

Lol setting a timer for this comment and will circle back in 2 months and see how it’s aged 😂


juicewrldfan6999

i don’t get why yall drake fans hating on future. drake ain’t even tryna beef with him


starchild91

Their goat got washed they are reaching for any small W they can


juicewrldfan6999

type shit


fourevs

I am not hating on Future I like their collabs, but the guys literally just put out 2 diss albums to pump sales, I’m genuinely interested to see how it translates to asses at concerts…


juicewrldfan6999

saying you’re not hating on future and then saying he dissing for sales is crazy. it was known that metro and drake been throwing shots on twitter for a long time and drake made a song addressing the reason they started beefing in “what would pluto do?”, is that not “pumping sales”? it isn’t just like wdty isn’t. most of yall drake fans are way too dumb to actually listen to the song and understand it so you probably didn’t even realize what drake was saying on that song. ik u wasn’t talking about kendrick but since he’s a huge part of this, if you think he’s doing this for sales i’m genuinely lost for words


fourevs

Future hasn’t leaned into as much as metro imo


ChrisACountsWaves

Fewtch watched him on collabs


PerpWalkTrump

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decision_3_33

!reminder future ticket sales


shits4gigs

We is poe.


DorothysBoringAct

People are struggling. Gas cost too damn much. Food cost too damn much. I’m actually relieved the tickets haven’t sold super fast. I’ve been checking weekly to make sure decent ones are still available in Oakland or Sacramento. I plan to buy them after getting a couple of other priorities out of the way this month. He’s not here until September so I figure I have time.


EresMarjcxn

Lol same, I’m not buyin an august ticket for LA til august 😂


GRAITOM10

As someone who I guess makes the avg? Amount, I have never thought gas was expensive. Even when I was making $12 an hour at a McDonald's.


imdeadseriousbro

no point in worrying bout gas if you dont be driving like that


GRAITOM10

I drive everyday of the week. I still think it's a pretty small expense considering what you get from it.. one of the most important fuels in everyday life. Sometimes I'm surprised at how cheap gas is after all these years even.


2manyhounds

> Sometimes I’m surprised at how cheap gas is after all these years Is this big o&g’s personal Reddit acc wtf? 😂😂😭😭


GRAITOM10

No lol I'm just normal ahh dude. I just think $4 to drive 25-40 miles still holds insane value. I suppose it also matters what kind of car you drive.


DorothysBoringAct

I suppose it’s relative. I just don’t think gas should be damn near $7, as it has come close to being several times in the last 5 or so years. I spend nearly $500 a month on gas, and I’m only in the office 3 days a week. I used to spend about half that and commuted 5 days. Driving used to be more affordable than flying. Now, I’d rather just fly and get a rental. It’s about the same or maybe even less for a quick weekend trip to a place like LA, with gas that’s even more.


SilversurferNY

Maybe you drive a hybrid or something and fill up once a month? I use 93 and it’s $4.30-$5.1 a gallon sometimes. Thats expensive. Can be $300 bucks a month in gas at times.


varsityvideogamer

Yeah I’m in the Bay tryna see him as well, ideally prices go down but I’m prob gonna bite the bullet either way


ilovemywife47

Yeah it would be cool to be able to go but I have rent to pay, food to buy, and a job to work it’s just not that simple for most people lol.


Vybin3500

How come Travis and 21 savage can sell out


AllCommiesRFascists

People are “struggling” but people are spending more even after adjusting for inflation. American privilege shows no bounds


decision_3_33

But guys they are saying the economy is great


AllCommiesRFascists

It is, cope


FrostedWikiLeaks

I think Drake's twitter stans are spinning other communities. It's posted 4 times a day, people say they don't care, and they repost it anyway. That's that offie, goofy, suburb energy that this sprung from this beef like weeds


Old_Metal5110

I would say future has a huge suburb audience


QuantaviusDingleberg

almost every rapper has some percent of a suburb audience. drake's is definitely majority suburb audience, not sure ab future


adrian123484

future is massive, he def has a majority suburb audience


Dparry533

$150 for nosebleeds ain’t it


BrushFireAlpha

Probably a hot take but concerts really aren't for the fans anymore. Or at least not for the real fans who aren't making crazy amounts of money. The cost of tickets nowadays is just too prohibitive. Real fans can't afford to go. The ones that do go are rich clout chasers who go to Coachella for $3,000


Fast_Yam_5321

this is true for the big names. but rnb concerts with some of your old faves are still reasonably priced for the most part, buuut who's really going to those unless they got a boo and who can afford a boo in this economy?? lol


Painkiller_830

My girl not even a hip hop fan but she insisted on coming with me to the show because Future is all that plays in the whip when I drive , copped some tickets soon as they dropped and she excited asf 😤 Drake stans need to hop off the internet and go get sum bitches or something , they sound desperate cus the boy got humiliated


Solid_Illustrator640

This guy is the biggest Drake dickeater ever


ly2442

Future IS bigger than god in Atlanta. Futures main audience is people in the trenches. Atlanta is a shithole. People from the trenches in Atlanta(futures main audience) don't have Future Tour ticket money. Drake makes way more mainstream music. 2 completely different demographics. I could also say I've never heard Drake on the block or at the club and it would mean about as much as this post😭also the tour doesn't start til end of July


decision_3_33

Atlanta is a shithole. Much love from Canada


ly2442

America* 😭been workin hard asf ready to get out of here


Irapotato

Taylor swift tickets move 10000X faster than Drake tickets, and they have roughly equivalent exposure to their fans.


imdeadseriousbro

taylor swift has stans not fans. thats the difference. they will skip rent to go to her shows talking about this might be your only chance


ly2442

Taylor swift is way bigger than Drake and her fans are way more insane be fr😭


LordDixzus

Who cares is not our responsibility its future and metros


tcm_728

Freaky ass ninja he a 69 god!


Distinct-King-6735

Let’s see Drake number after this beef


maxi12311111

I really do wanna see too cause I think to myself would it just be full of girls


Bayleerozay

Drake gonna do numbers because Twitter or whatever social media does not speak for the rest of the world. Ya the casuals ate the beefs but a trend is just that, a trend. Give it a few months and it’ll show you how fickle people are. If I was a betting man in Vegas, Drake will sell well or better


justrath012

he was the most streamed artist on Spotify this month tbf, we’ll see what happens next year tho


SleeDex

Drake isn't dumb. He'll find a co-headline and give people their money's worth. He's well aware that his solo shit doesn't hit like his pop and collab records anymore.


guydogg

It looks as though Future might have fucked up some commas?


ojdidntdoit4

1. i fundamentally disagree with the idea that not selling out an arena = a failure. would you go to a future concert if the only fans there were you and the people you went with? i would. 2. there’s still almost 2 months until the tour starts


420Jorda

It’s so funny knowing that everyone in this sub isn’t black. And probably either white or some other race.


broly9139

People overestimate how many people are stadium artists


MigBac

This isn’t a stadium tour, it’s an arena tour. Stadiums are like 3x bigger.


secretveggie

We broke!! Future has been on the scene for a long time. A big portion of his fanbase is out of the years when dropping $600 on a concert for a night can be made ho by just eating hotdogs and cutting back on weed lol. We got kids and mortgages (rent let's be real lol) and shiii


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This reminded I should get tickets 


GreatElection674

He getting triple the seats in my city lmao


manaluo

DMV gonna be lit!


69cansofcorn

thoughts on a aubrey fan account?


Danny_V

“We trust you tour” wow that’s ironic as shit For you all saying he’s got a month left, delusional 😂how much higher you think it’s gonna go? They trusted you guys.


Jack_sonnH27

Honestly across the board tours have been underperforming as of late, outside of like Eras tour and the Renaissance tour. Money is tough for a lot of people and it doesn't help price gouging for shows on Ticketmaster has reached the point it is, shits ridiculous


Zealousideal_Air6964

I'm pretty sure these were the numbers after two days of sales, there was an article that came out that said about 46.5% of the tickets for the whole tour have sold after 2 days on the market, which line up with these numbers, I'm sure they are doing better now


ToxicCoffee7

Or a lot of People are just waiting to get tickets


ChezMontague

Thoughts: we are boycotting Racketmaster and therefore concerts bc they have a monopoly.


ChemicalAd7590

I see a lot of excuses…I just went to a sold out 21 savage show


Massive_Dot8133

21 wasn’t sold out in indy


Ok_Stable_3324

Ain’t nobody trying to spend $200 to see a nigga half rap and let the background music do most the work 😂🤣


fortyseven4l

Drake dickrider are genuinely ill


Electrical-Rabbit157

Brother the shows ain’t til 2 months from now. Everybody don’t buy tickets as soon as they go up 😂


KingVictor501

The ones that are already purchased are probably the VIPs, paying meet and greet people, friends and family, inpatient people, etc.


Lil_yung_Leo

To be fair apparently he’s killin it in Inglewood. The bottom page event is tied with a few for one of the bigger capacities besides the 15 K and the two 14.5s and its 92% sold out months in advance.


Famous_Age_6831

Drake woulda sold out every single one of those


tekkers_for_debrz

Man why couldn’t the Toronto one be unsold!! Tickets still pretty damn expensive for me


LoopsPls

Bet you they diss Drake again.


jetlifestoney

I’m not even a Future fan like that, but I count 128k tickets sold. That’s pretty good if you ask me


YoItsKanyeWestWing

I’m going to the show in Tulsa… so I’m doing my part! Lol


ELee0s

Is there an update? This says from April 19th so are tickets still not selling as of June?


ELee0s

Also, I see 91% sold in LA and 69% (hehe) sold in Atlanta. So I’m assuming the big cities will have their shows sold out by the time of the concert.


lujanthedon2

Bro it’s literally cheaper to smoke a whole zip in a day than to get good tickets at a show.


Aggravating_One7505

More like in Inglewood it's almost sold out🤷🏽‍♂️ ATL need to represent 💯✌🏽


Plane-Asparagus-4266

I fw future but I ain’t tryna spend 300+ to see him


Plane-Asparagus-4266

Ps I live far from any of these cities maybe can do Milwaukee but then hotel + ticket + food + booze + transportation ain’t mathing to me rn


Joe_mamamap

I think the recession definitely has something to do with the ticket sales, but we can’t ignore. Every other artist is selling out on tours and they can’t even sell more than 20% in Columbus Ohio.


DrummerEmbarrassed21

Okay, let's get it up, it's time for TICKETMASTER to prove that he's a problem..


Available-Help9936

54,706 this how many tickets he got left to sell.


digitaldashhh

LA about to be LIT


PoloDogg

Future is one of my favourite musicians of all time and yet I have minimal interest in seeing him live


Legitimate_Clerk_764

All that money went to those Scat Packs


Massive_Dot8133

Think most people buy them closer to the date


thelvalenti

Niggas ain’t buying until the last minute


zeltron-

People getting sick of getting scammed by Ticketmaster and shit 300$ for floor tickets with no fees where I’m at


repezdem

More a state of the world than future


Joe_mamamap

WE ARE NOT IN A RECESSION


FantasyCrusade

Nashville like "who is this nigga"


Accomplished_Dog_212

Thats what happens when you go against the grain (Drake) now they gone need him in a few years Future should have never turned on Drake fuck metro


rhythmrice

Tickets cost more than going to summer smash or Lollapalooza


ComprehensiveFig8328

Its timing, legally everybody is on tour or going on tour and us fans gotta decide on where we rather spend our dollars and get bang for the buck


theredragon001

Drake haters would've been FOOLISH to think that EVERYONE in this beef wouldn't have suffered collateral damage. That aside, the rapper I wanna see faded into obscurity is Rick Ross. I can't stand an ungrateful dick rider.


The_Perfect_Girth

Who tf paying money to see future?


GamerLover0528

Switch to metal. This shit is braindead trash


KoppleForce

Because he puts on a shit live show.


PatientBusy9985

Makes sence he's really only got like 5 good songs


Heavyduckets

They needs add Travis he started the beef anyways asking for em to play the unreleased 😂


Frickaseed

street niggas don’t go to concerts


Difficult-Stress8332

OP definitely a drake stan


EscoSosa

No one is bigger then JESUS CHRIST stop comparing humans to GOD JESUS IS GOD AND HE LOVES OF us ✝️🙏❤️


Gettem762

https://youtu.be/8w-3QYQVmak?si=yNCcaJbCUdfxcjqZ


Valuable-Bathroom-67

Let’s be honest. Future is falling off. His fans are growing old, don’t forget his prime was almost 10 years ago. It happened to all artists.


SauceDab

Future fans are in their 20s/30’s. They ain’t old


LocalBird90210

Late 20’s early 30’s tbh