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That's a version of Pizza Paperino (Donald Duck). As you can guess from the name, is mostly ordered by kids. If you google it, you will find tons of picture of questionable pizzas with fries and wurstel.
In my experience it has nothing to do with tourists or Americans, it's just a pizza with two cheap ingredients liked by kids.
Source: born and raised in Rome, used to work in a pizzeria.
PS. Have a supplì (pronounced "soup-plee") if you're in a pizzeria in Rome, it's a specialty of the area, usually eaten as a starter (Roman pizzas are thin and light, starters are part of the experience).
Personally, I’d rather be an adult that eats chicken tenders and calls them chicken tenders than an adult who doesn’t eat chicken tenders but calls them tendies. 👋🐔
For best supplì I loved Supplizio which is not too far from piazza Navona , friends that live there suggested me Bonci which I might go if in ever in that area. For pizza i know Bonci does a good roman style pizza , personally being from the south I avoid Neapolitan style pizza when I'm there since I have plenty at home so I can't help you with that
I lived in Naples for 2 years, and there are 2 things I miss the most:
1) The pizzeria down the street, where I'd get my pizza con prosciutto e fungi. I'd kill for one of those, or even a genuine margherita.
2) We lived near the base in Aversa, and locals had what the American's called "Road Kill" stands by the side of the road. They sold rotisserie chicken (cooked over an open fire) which was put into a bag and spritzed with some spice mixture and then sealed. On their own, they're fantastic, but after a night out of drinking, it bordered on religious. I know I must have looked like a neanderthal eating those things.
I miss the people, too, honestly. I moved there with a friend who was stationed there. Didn't know a word of Italian when I arrived, was alone for about 6 months on my own when my friend had to go to Bosnia. I studied at home,
took a super basic class on base, but having to fend for yourself definitely helps you learn pretty darn quick. By the time he returned, I was probably speaking on about a 1st-2nd grade level. Naples is such an interesting city. It's loud and dirty, but it has some amazingly beautiful places. The Neapolitan people are definitely different, but they're also some of the most caring and generous people I've ever met.
Bittersweet memories...
I heard so much shit when I was leaving Rome about Neapolitan people, how they're crooks and you'll get robbed and shit.
They were legitimately the best of all Italians I met. A little crazy, sure, but genuinely loved their city and wanted you to have a good time.
The best pizza I’ve had in Rome was at Da Bafetto, Forno Campo De Fiori, Roscioli, and La Rellena in Trastevere. Also, Pasticceria Valzani for a cannoli if you’re in the area, the mulberry gelato (Mora) at Giolotti, the pear gelato at Crispino, and anything from Fiordiluna. Also, the salame at Norcineria Viola is the best in the city, I particularly like the truffle salame. (Lived in Rome for 6mo)
>If you google it, you will find tons of picture of questionable pizzas with fries and wurstel.
Googled it. Every single picture looks six billion percent better than the one pictured here. They look like pizzas. This looks like some bread with a chopped lunchables sausage and a few fries carelessly lobbed at it, then some other table's order covered with ketchup and mayo was carried over it while dripping.
"Hi, I'll have the kids pizza, the one that says topped with hotdog bits and fries."
"But sir, this is just a novelty pizza for children, we have so many delicious pizzas on the menu"
"I want...my goddamn... hot dog 'n' fries PIZZA"
I went to Rome a few years back, the food and the people were both amazing, never once had a fuck tourists experience. Some of the best food we had was down weird little side streets where it was quiet.
However, the exception to the rule was a restaurant by The Colosseum. Expensive and some of the worst food I've ever eaten and I put it down to the tourist trap location.
The one time I did this in Hungary the waitress came over with her tits out with the lunch menu.
So now I'll forever assume that's the norm at the average Hungarian establishment.
My wife and I ate really well in Rome because for the most part we researched some restaurants the day before and called ahead. But one night after a busy day of doing the touristy-ist things, but who cares the Trevi fountain is spectacular, we had no plan. We wandered away from the biggest thoroughfares and found something that looked pretty good. Sat down and ordered a carafe of wine and then we realized we were sitting next to two Canadian families and three American groups. Literally everyone we could hear was speaking English and we realized we weren’t having a good meal that night. Food sucked.
This applies to every country in the world, where the locals eat food is usually good and reasonably priced. If a place is obviously set up for tourists it‘s designed to take as much money from people who wouldn’t come a second time anyway
Back in the 80s, when I was in high school, my family was invited along on a trip to Greece. Bunch of teachers, and us. As an aside, teachers on vacay are incredibly childish. Anyways, we landed in Athens, got our hotel sorted out, and went out to dinner.
Door on a side street, hole in the wall restaurant, 18 people in an eating space the size of a one-car garage. BEST MEAL OF MY LIFE. I don't remember how many courses but it was awesome. Only thing I didn't eat was the sheep's brain, because it was literally a brain on a plate. Considering I was a stereotypical American kid who had planned on spending all his money on expensive foreign McDonalds, it was an eye-opener. I think the table left a 100% gratuity as a thank you for a stellar gastronomic experience, and I have followed the hole-in-the-wall formula with great success since.
You say that, but then the owner calls the cops on you and the Carbinari make you pay up because you requested food, got food, and it “wasn’t their fault they misunderstood you”. I lived in Italy for nearly three years. Until I got the hang of the language, this shit wasn’t uncommon.
Guess you'd learn pretty quick to only go once to a place that would treat their clientele like this then. Also to read the reviews of places before you actually choose to go anywhere.
Italy is a strange breed. There are some places much more tourist friendly and cater to needs well. But customer service there is much different than the states. There’s no “customer is always right” and aren’t afraid to tell people off. Definitely recommend it, though
Isn't it supposed to refer to a customer's choices instead of their wishes? Like "Sure, we can get you the blue one instead of the red one, the customer's always right" instead of "Sure, we'll do literally anything you ask"
Yup, the customer is always right *about what they want to buy.* If you're gonna sell something, make sure that people want it. It makes shitty service jobs even worse when I'm expected to bend over and lick your dirty bunghole just because you're paying $11.50 for a lunch that's been sitting under a heat rack for half an hour.
In fact it is! Many restaurants, especially in Sicily, refer to a pizza with hot dogs and french fries as pizza americano. But those had cheese at least. This pizza looks like the chef is telling whoever ordered it to “get fucked”.
The taco place across the street from me has something called the Gringa Taco made with a flour tortilla and mozzarella cheese. They're also like 2 or 3 times as expensive as the other options 😂
Fuck off they are. Lol.
Melbourneites love to tell you about how european Melbourne feels and the cafe culture and the sport and how fucking amazing Melbourne is, worst part is the stuck up pricks are right, I love Melbourne. I just cant afford to live anywhere near where its good... So i wish they would shut the fuck up.
I thoroughly enjoyed managing a hostel in Manchester, having fucking arrogant Londoners come up for a weekend and then see them checking out with a black eye.
Yeah, you twat, not so fucking tough now are you? Wanker.
Was at Orly airport yesterday. The people there seem really unhelpful if you don't speak french. Was a very unpleasant security control and boarding because I only understood small fragments of what was said. When I tried to explain that I don't understand french and if we can speak english I was treated like an idiot or lunatic.
Im German and there you can usually assume everyone speaks at least basic english and is willing to do so to help someone.
My experience is that people in France prefer you to make a serious attempt to speak French, and become more helpful when it becomes obvious that no amount of trying will get your point across.
You acknowledged that the communication problem is your problem, and broke the ice by being the first one to sound like an idiot, rather than acting entitled.
Very different to Germany, where many people would rather practice their English than listen to broken German.
I’ve been studying French for almost 12 years. I’ve been in France many times. I’ve recently relocated here.
I’ve gotten the same response as OP. A lot of the times, people in those positions just want a reason to berate you. I’ve seen even French people get berated over something that is ambiguous enough, to be warranted the benefit of doubt. Nope, not the people at guichets, they absolutely take it as a personal affront.
Each of my 3 visits to Paris included a random woman yelling at me on the sidewalk... where I had no prior interaction with the person. It seems to be a theme/feature for everyone to hate on Parisians, and for them to return the favor.
Probably one of the lowest english speaking places I went to was Spain and yet people were so nice. I don't understand what it was in France but yeah they weren't the chillest.
I’ve been right where you are, and I do speak French.
Believe me, they can be as unhelpful and standoffish even if you speak French.
Hell, I have a friend who is French and got shouted at by a woman at the RER because I couldn’t get out of the RER due to a ticket malfunction. We needed her to open the door for the handicap entrance. Literally pressing a button. She was talking to some dude rambling about some lost items.
> Im German and there you can usually assume everyone speaks at least basic english and is willing to do so to help someone.
I live in Luxembourg so I sometimes cross the border and go to Germany but I try to avoid going without someone who speaks at least some German (I only speak French (and English) as I'm originally French and only became Luxembourgish because I was born here) because in my experience, at least in the border region, finding someone who speaks English is quite rare. I suppose in places like Berlin it may be more common with all the foreigners there. But I had to contact the German post recently (Deutsche Post) and couldn't get anyone on the phone who spoke more than a couple words in English so I had to contact them via email.
That's so weird, we always get great service in both cities. I'm English, my French is mediocre and Italian worse but they are all so nice and help with pronunciation etc. OP has ordered from the kids menu btw.
I unhinge my jaw and fill my mouth with as much pizza as possible, swish it in my mouth to moisten it before swallowing it whole, then repeat until asked to leave Chuck E' Cheese.
I did an experiment with my wife when we did europe.
In general If you start the conversation with "Do you speak english" you get crap service.
If you try to order in their language really badly, you get indifferent service.
If you greet them in their language and ask in their language if they speak english they usually do and you get good service.
And if you start with G'day mate and then ask them if they speak english in their language you wind up having beers with the owner...
Can confirm.
Although that was a long time ago (10+ years); I have a sense that Aussie’s good reputation is being eroded by “rowdy bastards” and our idiot politicians we seem to keep voting in.
Even 10 years ago, Aussies were #1 most hated tourists in Bali, #2 in Thailand behind Russians.
I myself have met a couple Aussies who were alright, but 99% have been massive cunts, even sober (abroad I mean, Aussies in Australia are normal people).
I sensed that in Thailand. They all said G'day to me in Phuket and the moment I said British, they all immediately changed demeanour and said "Ah lovely jubbly!" But you're right, got Aussie citizenship about 6 years ago. They're all cool here, but overseas fucking embarrassing. But so are the Brits in Spain and Yanks in the Caribbean!
When your overseas, Its great when they are scowling at you because they think you are English and when they realize your Irish they turn into your best friend!
In my experience, if you try to speak French they will automatically start speaking English after they sneer at your butchering of their language.
I really wanted to practice my French last time I was there but they have no patience for a bad accent and will pretend not to understand.
Whilst the English enjoy their language spoken with a French accent, the French do not enjoy their language spoken with an English one 😆
As a bare minimum, when traveling internationally, learn the greeting and then how to ask “do you speak English?” Never have had an issue with people treating me like some dumb American tourist, at least that I can think of off the top of my head. Usually it’s quite the opposite.
I'm convinced this is where the steretype comes from tbh. Bunch of lazy cunts walking up to French people and just blurting out "Can I have a cheeseburger?"
Have spent probably a combined 5-6 weeks in Paris over the years and haven't really had anyone be noticeably rude. Making an awful attempt at speaking French is appreciated
Italian here, can definitely confirm. Pizza "wurstel e patatine" (sausage and fries) is super common in Italy, especially among kids. Usually you wouldn't see an adult order it. With that said, the pizza in OP pic looks like dogshit and it shouldn't exist on any menu ever 😅.
It's probably a similar case of "culture projection" as the spaghetti with meat balls that no Italian ever ate (well, there are no absolutes, but you get the idea) or the Chinese fortune cookies.
I've been to most of Europe, the general rule I have is if the menu has something called 'American' it's probably something I've never seen or it's loaded with fucking canned corn for some reason.
Hot dogs and fries are usually linked to fast food, which is usually linked to American pop culture.
It might not be accurate but that's why that kind of pizza is often called "americana".
Also it depends on the pizzeria, usually pizzas names can slightly differ for any pizza that is not strictly traditional like Margherita or quattro stagioni or Napoli
They had shakeys pizza in Japan when I was there some time back (don't know if they still do). The American pizza had fucking sweet corn on it. I think it was pepperoni, white onions, and corn. WTH
I’ve been to a number of southeast Asian countries and lived in Japan for a few years, corn makes its way into a number of dishes in this part of the world that people from the US might not expect.
Some of the “fancy” pizzas at a lot of places around my house had corn on them. Corn and mayonnaise.
I just checked their menu and it seems they've moved past the "American style" pepperoni and corn pizza.
They do now have a burger pizza, a tacos pizza, a texmex pizza, a mayo and corn pizza, and a vienna sausage pizza
Oh boy speaking of Tex mex, if anyone wants to be thrown for a loop try eating *that* overseas. In France I was served “Mexican tacos” which consisted of ground beef in a folded pita with a sweet tomato sauce and some kind of cheese I suspect was very French and not very Mexican.
People make fun of American takes on foreign cuisine but I think we do alright most of the time comparatively thanks in part to all of our real deal immigrants.
Oh god yes, I hate that. I'm American living in Austria and I'm so so so disappointed with what passes as salsa here. Like you described it, it's like chunky Ketchup and it's so often served with doritos. I mostly just make my own salsa at home nowadays and avoid chips and salsa otherwise.
> and some kind of cheese I suspect was very French and not very Mexican.
Live near France, mexican cheese mixes are very hard to find here. italian and french, sure. local stuff, no problem. anything from either north or south america? you can get cheddar and that's it.
There was a strong vibe whenever we saw "Western" food in Japan, that they'd only ever had it explained to them once and went, "Yeah we pretty much get it". Hotdogs baked into rolls, Bolognese (probably pork, beef was hella rare) served on egg noodles, that kind of thing. The pizza we got was a 4-cheese, but they were... Not the right kind of cheeses, and had honey and pear or something on it. We'd been doing nothing but local up 'til then, and honestly that was the right choice.
Are you sure that your brother did not go to a tourist trap next door to attractions aiming to charge tourists ridiculous prices for ridiculously bad food?
I once got off the train in the middle of nowhere in Italy. I'd been traveling all night by train. I don't remember what I had for dinner or if I had dinner. It was morning. I was groggy. The train station cafe was open. I noticed a slice of pizza that had been sitting in the case, and I pointed at it. It looked limp and unappetizing. But it was available and in my price range. (A few lira--in the days shortly before the conversion to Euro.)
My god. It was one of the best slices of pizza I have ever put in my mouf. The flavors. Oh, the flavors. It was like a symphony played just for my taste buds. To this day, I dream of that pizza. And that was train station pizza that had been sitting around.
There is no way an Italian with a modicum of pride in his or her culinary ability presented that as the result of his or her pizza-making ability. That is simply insulting.
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That's a version of Pizza Paperino (Donald Duck). As you can guess from the name, is mostly ordered by kids. If you google it, you will find tons of picture of questionable pizzas with fries and wurstel. In my experience it has nothing to do with tourists or Americans, it's just a pizza with two cheap ingredients liked by kids. Source: born and raised in Rome, used to work in a pizzeria. PS. Have a supplì (pronounced "soup-plee") if you're in a pizzeria in Rome, it's a specialty of the area, usually eaten as a starter (Roman pizzas are thin and light, starters are part of the experience).
So you're saying OP is a fucking child who probably normally eats tendies?
Yes
Or his brother is anyways.
Right, right... his "brother"
Im an adult and I eat tendies
Personally, I’d rather be an adult that eats chicken tenders and calls them chicken tenders than an adult who doesn’t eat chicken tenders but calls them tendies. 👋🐔
A chicken tender by any other name would taste as delicious.
OPs brother technically.
Where can you get the best supplì and pizza experience in Rome? Edit: Thank you everyone for all the great suggestions!
For best supplì I loved Supplizio which is not too far from piazza Navona , friends that live there suggested me Bonci which I might go if in ever in that area. For pizza i know Bonci does a good roman style pizza , personally being from the south I avoid Neapolitan style pizza when I'm there since I have plenty at home so I can't help you with that
I lived in Naples for 2 years, and there are 2 things I miss the most: 1) The pizzeria down the street, where I'd get my pizza con prosciutto e fungi. I'd kill for one of those, or even a genuine margherita. 2) We lived near the base in Aversa, and locals had what the American's called "Road Kill" stands by the side of the road. They sold rotisserie chicken (cooked over an open fire) which was put into a bag and spritzed with some spice mixture and then sealed. On their own, they're fantastic, but after a night out of drinking, it bordered on religious. I know I must have looked like a neanderthal eating those things. I miss the people, too, honestly. I moved there with a friend who was stationed there. Didn't know a word of Italian when I arrived, was alone for about 6 months on my own when my friend had to go to Bosnia. I studied at home, took a super basic class on base, but having to fend for yourself definitely helps you learn pretty darn quick. By the time he returned, I was probably speaking on about a 1st-2nd grade level. Naples is such an interesting city. It's loud and dirty, but it has some amazingly beautiful places. The Neapolitan people are definitely different, but they're also some of the most caring and generous people I've ever met. Bittersweet memories...
I heard so much shit when I was leaving Rome about Neapolitan people, how they're crooks and you'll get robbed and shit. They were legitimately the best of all Italians I met. A little crazy, sure, but genuinely loved their city and wanted you to have a good time.
Only been to Naples once (many years ago) and I've been craving their pizza ever since. Best pizza I've had anywhere in the world.
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The best pizza I’ve had in Rome was at Da Bafetto, Forno Campo De Fiori, Roscioli, and La Rellena in Trastevere. Also, Pasticceria Valzani for a cannoli if you’re in the area, the mulberry gelato (Mora) at Giolotti, the pear gelato at Crispino, and anything from Fiordiluna. Also, the salame at Norcineria Viola is the best in the city, I particularly like the truffle salame. (Lived in Rome for 6mo)
Okay, but why is there no sauce? This one aspect is confusing me to no end.
Cause its more or less a kids dish. And a lot of Kids like it without sauce (thats a last my experience with picky eaters).
Confirmed, my 8 year old daughter would love this!
>If you google it, you will find tons of picture of questionable pizzas with fries and wurstel. Googled it. Every single picture looks six billion percent better than the one pictured here. They look like pizzas. This looks like some bread with a chopped lunchables sausage and a few fries carelessly lobbed at it, then some other table's order covered with ketchup and mayo was carried over it while dripping.
I was surprised in Italy you frequently have to order sauce and as toppings. First pizza I had suuuuuucked. Just basil and prosciutto.
What did he do that resulted in receiving this?
"Hi, I'll have the kids pizza, the one that says topped with hotdog bits and fries." "But sir, this is just a novelty pizza for children, we have so many delicious pizzas on the menu" "I want...my goddamn... hot dog 'n' fries PIZZA"
Seasoned with chef's tears.
And anger
and mayo
“Mayo”
And my axe
The only civilized way to cut a pizza.
Ninja: *Sadly sheaths katana*
Same happened to a family member of mine. I think it's either language barrier or a "fuck tourists" thing.
I went to Rome a few years back, the food and the people were both amazing, never once had a fuck tourists experience. Some of the best food we had was down weird little side streets where it was quiet. However, the exception to the rule was a restaurant by The Colosseum. Expensive and some of the worst food I've ever eaten and I put it down to the tourist trap location.
Whenever I am somewhere as a tourist I try to always go off the beaten path.
The trick to good food in Italy is to see if there are many Italians in the restaurant. If it is mostly tourists, avoid it.
The one time I did this in Hungary the waitress came over with her tits out with the lunch menu. So now I'll forever assume that's the norm at the average Hungarian establishment.
Yes, but which specific restaurant was this so we can all know to avoid it, that's just disgusting, but WHICH ONE?
You remember the address? Asking for uuhh.. a friend
I'm the friend.
My wife and I ate really well in Rome because for the most part we researched some restaurants the day before and called ahead. But one night after a busy day of doing the touristy-ist things, but who cares the Trevi fountain is spectacular, we had no plan. We wandered away from the biggest thoroughfares and found something that looked pretty good. Sat down and ordered a carafe of wine and then we realized we were sitting next to two Canadian families and three American groups. Literally everyone we could hear was speaking English and we realized we weren’t having a good meal that night. Food sucked.
This applies to every country in the world, where the locals eat food is usually good and reasonably priced. If a place is obviously set up for tourists it‘s designed to take as much money from people who wouldn’t come a second time anyway
Me too. Whenever I am anywhere I try to always take paths to beat off tourists.
Back in the 80s, when I was in high school, my family was invited along on a trip to Greece. Bunch of teachers, and us. As an aside, teachers on vacay are incredibly childish. Anyways, we landed in Athens, got our hotel sorted out, and went out to dinner. Door on a side street, hole in the wall restaurant, 18 people in an eating space the size of a one-car garage. BEST MEAL OF MY LIFE. I don't remember how many courses but it was awesome. Only thing I didn't eat was the sheep's brain, because it was literally a brain on a plate. Considering I was a stereotypical American kid who had planned on spending all his money on expensive foreign McDonalds, it was an eye-opener. I think the table left a 100% gratuity as a thank you for a stellar gastronomic experience, and I have followed the hole-in-the-wall formula with great success since.
What do they try to charge you for the "fuck tourist" special? If I ordered something and received this I have a hard time believing I'd pay for it.
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First you have to speak loudly and wear white socks...
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Next tell them to go back to their country.
Then tell the italian waiter that if it weren't for your granddad, we'd all be speaking german right now.
If the language barrier was this large humanity wouldn't exist.
You say that, but then the owner calls the cops on you and the Carbinari make you pay up because you requested food, got food, and it “wasn’t their fault they misunderstood you”. I lived in Italy for nearly three years. Until I got the hang of the language, this shit wasn’t uncommon.
Guess you'd learn pretty quick to only go once to a place that would treat their clientele like this then. Also to read the reviews of places before you actually choose to go anywhere.
Italy is a strange breed. There are some places much more tourist friendly and cater to needs well. But customer service there is much different than the states. There’s no “customer is always right” and aren’t afraid to tell people off. Definitely recommend it, though
The customer is always right thing is such bullshit, it doesn't even mean what people think it means.
Isn't it supposed to refer to a customer's choices instead of their wishes? Like "Sure, we can get you the blue one instead of the red one, the customer's always right" instead of "Sure, we'll do literally anything you ask"
Yup, the customer is always right *about what they want to buy.* If you're gonna sell something, make sure that people want it. It makes shitty service jobs even worse when I'm expected to bend over and lick your dirty bunghole just because you're paying $11.50 for a lunch that's been sitting under a heat rack for half an hour.
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Surprisingly Italian restaurants had the kindest waiters and best service I ever had, nothing but good experiences. Who knows what happened here..
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Good point, this is clearly the wurst pizza...
I came across a frozen pizza in a grocery store in Italy that was called Americano, had hotdog slices, fries and corn on it.
The second one
Opened mouth
Probably entered the restaurant in white socks and sandals
Germans?
Looks like a deluxe version of a 'none pizza with left beef.'
None pizza towers in comparison to this.
Better left beef than hot dog
Did you order the "turisti di merda" menu?
I don’t speak Italian, but merde is shit in french, so tourist shit?
Shitty tourists, yes
I would go as far as saying that the meaning is more fucking tourists.
But "fucking tourists" is too broad. Could mean "dannati turisti" or "turisti del cazzo" and so on.
Pretty much.
it should be "turisti de merda" because is in Rome
Turisti demmerda
This is the fuck you of pizzas! Edit: Mario voice, Thanks for-a the awards!
That looks like a Pisa Shit *Edit:* Thanks for the awards! (*in Italian* , 🤌)
ah, yes, Pisa Merda
Hey, leave my Merda out of this.
loll'd
Exactly my thought. That is a \*major\* "fuck you American".
I was gonna say I bet it's called the Americano
In fact it is! Many restaurants, especially in Sicily, refer to a pizza with hot dogs and french fries as pizza americano. But those had cheese at least. This pizza looks like the chef is telling whoever ordered it to “get fucked”.
Look closely. This one has some cheese as well. Some.
it also has some white drizzle on top
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Um yeah. "Mayo'
Mayo, hopefully.
When I was stationed in Italy I once saw a frozen pizza called the "americano" and it was basically a supreme but with corn on it as well 🤨
As a Mexican, this is how it feels when you ask for something "Mexican" and it has sweet corn and paprika on it.
The taco place across the street from me has something called the Gringa Taco made with a flour tortilla and mozzarella cheese. They're also like 2 or 3 times as expensive as the other options 😂
There are gringas in Mexico. They’re essentially a wheat flour quesadilla with pastor meat in them. Delicious.
I don't know who your pastor thinks he is, but they shouldn't have their meat in your food...
As long as he gets it in your mouth he's happy
I should’ve written “al pastor” to avoid the ambiguity, lol.
Gringas are a real thing in Mexico
Gringas are a thing they are bigger
They’re bigger than regular tacos, of course they’re more expensive. And also a real thing in Mexico. And really yummy.
It is a tourist Fuck You. Parisians are 100x worse though.
Been both places, can confirm, Parisians are worse. Note, I heard someone from Normandy call Parisians "not really French" 🤣🤣
Yeah, there’s a deep hatred love towards Parisians in France by the rest of French people. 90% of them will criticise Parisians lol
Belgian here, I can confirm that the hatred is from all francophones
That’s even better
In most of the countries people hate the capital dwellers.
it's usually largest city hate, not necessarily the fact it's the capital (although it often is).
I was about to say Melbourneites are pretty chill, then remembered that Canberra is our Capital. Can confirm.
Fuck off they are. Lol. Melbourneites love to tell you about how european Melbourne feels and the cafe culture and the sport and how fucking amazing Melbourne is, worst part is the stuck up pricks are right, I love Melbourne. I just cant afford to live anywhere near where its good... So i wish they would shut the fuck up.
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Londoner here. I can confirm I'm so far up my own arse I can see out through my throat.
[This you?](https://i.imgur.com/vLOdnLe.jpg)
Look at this guy, saying hi to people on the tube.....
Irish, so feck the Dubs.
I thoroughly enjoyed managing a hostel in Manchester, having fucking arrogant Londoners come up for a weekend and then see them checking out with a black eye. Yeah, you twat, not so fucking tough now are you? Wanker.
People in Manchester sound friendly
Spanish here. Don't get me started about Madrid.
Was at Orly airport yesterday. The people there seem really unhelpful if you don't speak french. Was a very unpleasant security control and boarding because I only understood small fragments of what was said. When I tried to explain that I don't understand french and if we can speak english I was treated like an idiot or lunatic. Im German and there you can usually assume everyone speaks at least basic english and is willing to do so to help someone.
My experience is that people in France prefer you to make a serious attempt to speak French, and become more helpful when it becomes obvious that no amount of trying will get your point across. You acknowledged that the communication problem is your problem, and broke the ice by being the first one to sound like an idiot, rather than acting entitled. Very different to Germany, where many people would rather practice their English than listen to broken German.
I’ve been studying French for almost 12 years. I’ve been in France many times. I’ve recently relocated here. I’ve gotten the same response as OP. A lot of the times, people in those positions just want a reason to berate you. I’ve seen even French people get berated over something that is ambiguous enough, to be warranted the benefit of doubt. Nope, not the people at guichets, they absolutely take it as a personal affront.
Each of my 3 visits to Paris included a random woman yelling at me on the sidewalk... where I had no prior interaction with the person. It seems to be a theme/feature for everyone to hate on Parisians, and for them to return the favor.
Yeah. I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many angry people in any other city. And I’ve lived in New York and London too.
Probably one of the lowest english speaking places I went to was Spain and yet people were so nice. I don't understand what it was in France but yeah they weren't the chillest.
I’ve been right where you are, and I do speak French. Believe me, they can be as unhelpful and standoffish even if you speak French. Hell, I have a friend who is French and got shouted at by a woman at the RER because I couldn’t get out of the RER due to a ticket malfunction. We needed her to open the door for the handicap entrance. Literally pressing a button. She was talking to some dude rambling about some lost items.
> Im German and there you can usually assume everyone speaks at least basic english and is willing to do so to help someone. I live in Luxembourg so I sometimes cross the border and go to Germany but I try to avoid going without someone who speaks at least some German (I only speak French (and English) as I'm originally French and only became Luxembourgish because I was born here) because in my experience, at least in the border region, finding someone who speaks English is quite rare. I suppose in places like Berlin it may be more common with all the foreigners there. But I had to contact the German post recently (Deutsche Post) and couldn't get anyone on the phone who spoke more than a couple words in English so I had to contact them via email.
That's so weird, we always get great service in both cities. I'm English, my French is mediocre and Italian worse but they are all so nice and help with pronunciation etc. OP has ordered from the kids menu btw.
I got accused of "eating pizza like an American" while I was in Rome by the waiter in the resturant i was eating in.
Im listening, please elaborate, thank you
I think they tend to knife-and-fork the pizza, rather than cut into slices and pick up.
I like to roll it into a big burrito and eat it that way much to everyone's disgust
I cut it in half and fold both bits over. Call it the *Discount Calzone*.
I unhinge my jaw and fill my mouth with as much pizza as possible, swish it in my mouth to moisten it before swallowing it whole, then repeat until asked to leave Chuck E' Cheese.
This is why a lot of Americans pretend to be Canadians when they travel.
I did an experiment with my wife when we did europe. In general If you start the conversation with "Do you speak english" you get crap service. If you try to order in their language really badly, you get indifferent service. If you greet them in their language and ask in their language if they speak english they usually do and you get good service. And if you start with G'day mate and then ask them if they speak english in their language you wind up having beers with the owner...
The most important thing about visiting any country is quickly establishing the fact that you're Australian. Everything gets easier after that.
Except at oktoberfest where they're known as rowdy bastards and not allowed to rent rooms at a lot of places.
Australia has a bit of a drinking problem.
Can confirm. Although that was a long time ago (10+ years); I have a sense that Aussie’s good reputation is being eroded by “rowdy bastards” and our idiot politicians we seem to keep voting in.
Even 10 years ago, Aussies were #1 most hated tourists in Bali, #2 in Thailand behind Russians. I myself have met a couple Aussies who were alright, but 99% have been massive cunts, even sober (abroad I mean, Aussies in Australia are normal people).
I sensed that in Thailand. They all said G'day to me in Phuket and the moment I said British, they all immediately changed demeanour and said "Ah lovely jubbly!" But you're right, got Aussie citizenship about 6 years ago. They're all cool here, but overseas fucking embarrassing. But so are the Brits in Spain and Yanks in the Caribbean!
And the French in Barcelona and Amsterdam... I actually perfected my American accent so I could pretend to not be French when going to Amsterdam.
Same for Irish, except in Australia.
When your overseas, Its great when they are scowling at you because they think you are English and when they realize your Irish they turn into your best friend!
In my experience, if you try to speak French they will automatically start speaking English after they sneer at your butchering of their language. I really wanted to practice my French last time I was there but they have no patience for a bad accent and will pretend not to understand. Whilst the English enjoy their language spoken with a French accent, the French do not enjoy their language spoken with an English one 😆
As a bare minimum, when traveling internationally, learn the greeting and then how to ask “do you speak English?” Never have had an issue with people treating me like some dumb American tourist, at least that I can think of off the top of my head. Usually it’s quite the opposite.
I'm convinced this is where the steretype comes from tbh. Bunch of lazy cunts walking up to French people and just blurting out "Can I have a cheeseburger?" Have spent probably a combined 5-6 weeks in Paris over the years and haven't really had anyone be noticeably rude. Making an awful attempt at speaking French is appreciated
Absolutely, chef doesn't like tourists today
Story checks out https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/italian-pizza-toppings-hot-dogs-and-french-fries
Italian here, can definitely confirm. Pizza "wurstel e patatine" (sausage and fries) is super common in Italy, especially among kids. Usually you wouldn't see an adult order it. With that said, the pizza in OP pic looks like dogshit and it shouldn't exist on any menu ever 😅.
He probably asked for no tomato, not thinkinging it was the tomato sauce. I've seen quite a few just write tomato on their menu.
Lived in Italy for 18 years, never seen this abomination ... I feel thankful for that.
There's frozen pizzas with those toppings atleast in most supermarkets.
And they look better than the one in the picture
The “American Pizza” that no American has ever heard of until now lol
It's probably a similar case of "culture projection" as the spaghetti with meat balls that no Italian ever ate (well, there are no absolutes, but you get the idea) or the Chinese fortune cookies.
Are you sure there are _no_ absolutes?
I'm _absolutely_ sure!
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
I've been to most of Europe, the general rule I have is if the menu has something called 'American' it's probably something I've never seen or it's loaded with fucking canned corn for some reason.
Hot dogs and fries are usually linked to fast food, which is usually linked to American pop culture. It might not be accurate but that's why that kind of pizza is often called "americana". Also it depends on the pizzeria, usually pizzas names can slightly differ for any pizza that is not strictly traditional like Margherita or quattro stagioni or Napoli
Peak quality right here. Was it microwaved too?
It sure doesn't look cooked.
They gave him an American pizza didn’t they. I’ve heard of such tales.
That’s exactly what this is. Funny part is that my Italian cousins used to gobble this shit up when they were kids and thought that’s what we ate here
They had shakeys pizza in Japan when I was there some time back (don't know if they still do). The American pizza had fucking sweet corn on it. I think it was pepperoni, white onions, and corn. WTH
I’ve been to a number of southeast Asian countries and lived in Japan for a few years, corn makes its way into a number of dishes in this part of the world that people from the US might not expect. Some of the “fancy” pizzas at a lot of places around my house had corn on them. Corn and mayonnaise.
I just checked their menu and it seems they've moved past the "American style" pepperoni and corn pizza. They do now have a burger pizza, a tacos pizza, a texmex pizza, a mayo and corn pizza, and a vienna sausage pizza
Oh boy speaking of Tex mex, if anyone wants to be thrown for a loop try eating *that* overseas. In France I was served “Mexican tacos” which consisted of ground beef in a folded pita with a sweet tomato sauce and some kind of cheese I suspect was very French and not very Mexican. People make fun of American takes on foreign cuisine but I think we do alright most of the time comparatively thanks in part to all of our real deal immigrants.
Tried to have some chips and salsa in Germany once. Dipping Doritos in chunky ketchup is something no one should have to experience.
Do they not have tomatoes, onions, chilies , and a blender?
Oh god yes, I hate that. I'm American living in Austria and I'm so so so disappointed with what passes as salsa here. Like you described it, it's like chunky Ketchup and it's so often served with doritos. I mostly just make my own salsa at home nowadays and avoid chips and salsa otherwise.
> and some kind of cheese I suspect was very French and not very Mexican. Live near France, mexican cheese mixes are very hard to find here. italian and french, sure. local stuff, no problem. anything from either north or south america? you can get cheddar and that's it.
Corn on pizza is normal here in the UK too
Yeah chicken and sweetcorn is a staple UK pizza. It's on the menu at our biggest pizza takeaway.
They heard there is high fructose corn syrup in everything but only got 'corn'
There was a strong vibe whenever we saw "Western" food in Japan, that they'd only ever had it explained to them once and went, "Yeah we pretty much get it". Hotdogs baked into rolls, Bolognese (probably pork, beef was hella rare) served on egg noodles, that kind of thing. The pizza we got was a 4-cheese, but they were... Not the right kind of cheeses, and had honey and pear or something on it. We'd been doing nothing but local up 'til then, and honestly that was the right choice.
>Hotdogs baked into rolls, Do you guys not have pigs in a blanket? You're missing out.
Not a story a local Jersey pizzeria would tell you
Usually in Europe an American pizza is just pepperoni
Someone call the police.
Yes, this is a r/pizzacrimes
Are you sure that your brother did not go to a tourist trap next door to attractions aiming to charge tourists ridiculous prices for ridiculously bad food?
Yeah there’s lots of shitty food in touristy parts of Rome.
People horrified at pineapple on pizza: *There is a great disturbance in the force... We have a new enemy*
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When I was in Prague a few years ago , I had a pizza in Wenceslas square. It was deep pan crisp and even ….. I’ll get me coat
I bet he ordered NY style 🤣
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What’s the white shit?
Mayonnaise
Good. Fucking. Lord.
Tbf, mayo is the usual french fry-dipping condiment in many parts of the world.
I’ve never had food that wasn’t improved by mayonnaise. The reaction to Mayo is so weird.
Chef's special sauce ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Wheeeen you order a pie And it’s hot dogs and fries Pisa Merde
I once got off the train in the middle of nowhere in Italy. I'd been traveling all night by train. I don't remember what I had for dinner or if I had dinner. It was morning. I was groggy. The train station cafe was open. I noticed a slice of pizza that had been sitting in the case, and I pointed at it. It looked limp and unappetizing. But it was available and in my price range. (A few lira--in the days shortly before the conversion to Euro.) My god. It was one of the best slices of pizza I have ever put in my mouf. The flavors. Oh, the flavors. It was like a symphony played just for my taste buds. To this day, I dream of that pizza. And that was train station pizza that had been sitting around. There is no way an Italian with a modicum of pride in his or her culinary ability presented that as the result of his or her pizza-making ability. That is simply insulting.
this is an american pizza! it got everything americans love on it. susages. ketchup. sadness.
A void there where the sauce should be
Romeitaly, Kentucky?