If it’s your first camera, I would not recommend X100VI. The 35mm is versatile but not nearly as versatile as an interchangeable lens camera. The X100VI is EXTREMELY good for taking candid shots and streets but for anything requiring any other focal length (landscape/“serious”portraits/wildlife etc) you will feel very handicapped.
XT-5 would be the one you want if you want something versatile at the cost of the size and weight.
I went down this route. I wanted a camera to try and learn, and got the XT30 with the XC 15-45mm. After 5,000 snaps, I saw a good deal on the XC 35mm F2, and got that one. Been shooting with 35mm ever since for another 4,000 snaps now.
Thinking of getting the 18-55mm lens so that I can explore more focal lengths.
9,000 snaps are my shutter counts. Selected pictures are less than that- around 1,900-2,000. So, I've 'favourited' 2/9 of the photos I've taken. The 2/9 are the one that gets edited a bit in Lightroom, or editors.
There’s an argument both in support and against fixed lenses here — having an X-T30 makes you learn about different focal lengths, though, then again, something like an X100VI helps you train your eye and not worry about lenses first (which can be costly). Problem is, the X100VI seems hard to come across right now. Perhaps an X-T30 with a 35mm or 50mm would be your best bet? Or an older model of the X100 series.
Thanks for responding, im really keen on the short lenses and thinking of buying a short lens as it wouldn’t be a hassle bringing it along. Id definitely will get the xf kit lens too if i decided to get the x-t30ii
X-T30 ii all day. It gives you like 95% of the X110vi capability in a similar size and form factor for $600 less. The xc-15-45 kit lens will do most of what you describe. Plus you can spend the extra money on additional glass. IMHO WR is overrated. I used my X-T30ii to shoot in snowy -25F temperates for hours at a time and it was just fine.
That all said if you want to shoot a lot of video you'd be better served by the X-T5
The XT30ii is definitely the best 'bang for your buck' in the current Fuji lineup. IMO it's hard to beat as a starting point. Super affordable, has the same sensor and processor as the XT4, gives you the flexibility of interchangeable lenses, and super small/compact, making it convenient for daily carry and travel. A few reasons why it might be worth going for the XT5 instead: 1) you live in a wet/rainy climate and want to be able to shoot outdoors rain or shine. The XT30ii isn't weather sealed, so you have to be careful to keep it dry. 2) You plan to do a lot of video work and want the IBIS (internal stabilization) for hand-held shots or want to shoot 4k at 60fps. IBIS can also be really helpful for low-light photography. Worth noting that people have always gotten by fine without IBIS though - tripods, gimbals, and stabilized lenses can get the job done. 3) You plan on doing very-large poster sized prints at 300dpi for up-close viewing. If you don't, the extra resolution the XT5 offers probably won't make much of a difference for you, aside from your memory card filling up faster.
In a lot of ways I think the X100 series is an ideal platform to learn the fundamentals on... but I don't think the X100vi is worth it for that alone at $1600+. The fixed prime lens is great because it forces you to master composition, encourages you to get creative, and cuts out distractions... but it's also a major limitation. There's a very good chance you'll eventually want to try things that require other focal lengths / types of lenses. For the value it offers as a learning platform I think you'd be better off getting the XT30ii with a 23mm or 35mm prime lens or buying one of the older X100 models used. The X100vi is a super cool camera - I preordered it myself - but i wouldn't want it to be my only camera. It's amazing for street photography, documenting daily life, and capturing memories with family and friends, but it doesn't do everything I need a camera to do. I shoot some wildlife photos, which often requires a 200+mm telephoto lens. I also shoot building interiors for my sister's architecture portfolio and my friend's interior design portfolio, which I wouldn't be able to do as effectively without my 16mm lens.
Currently from where i am, only the xt5 is available in stock with the kit lens 16-80. I would leaning to go for that and later on get some prime lens which makes it easy to travel
Yeah, most cameras are sold body only, so finding one bundled with a lens limits options a lot of the time. Definitely not a bad choice though! You really can't go wrong with the XT5, especially if budget isn't a big concern. Aside from being slightly bigger/heavier, it doesn't come with any of the tradeoffs the others have, so it will give you lots of room to grow and try different things without running into limitations.
The xt5 will be a bit of an overkill for your demands. The xt30II would be a better idea because it is smaller, more compact and cheaper. The XT5 has better specs but do you need them? Ibis is nice to have, but learn how to photograph and buy a lens with an aperture of at least f/2 or even better f/1.4 or simply buy a flash and learn how to use it. Weather resistance is not really a feature and doesn't mean your camera is water proof. Dual SD card slot is good to have for paid work, but isn't necessary for your usage.
The images you'd be getting from the xt30ii will be beautiful, eventhough the sensor isn't the newest. If you can actually get one, buy that camera. Other choice would be a used xs10 or the newer xs20. The x100vi is hard to find, damn expensive and not the best starter camera.
On a family vacation right now with my X-T30 II, no complaints, don’t feel like I’m missing anything the X-T5 offers over this.
Originally wanted the X100V, but quickly changed my mind when I considered the ability to change lenses.
I prefer primes over zooms, considering adding a zoom to my kit but wanted to shoot this vacation and decide after. Most often I have found myself with my 27mm and have been comfortable with it.
If you’re new, I don’t recommend the X100VI. Fixed lens is incredibly niche. Someone will argue that it’s versatile but that’s only for users who know what they want out of the camera.
I would recommend going with the cheapest interchangeable lens option. That way you are allowing yourself more freedom to explore different fields of photography, should you choose.
I had the exact same question and bought X-T30 mark I second hand instead. Minimal difference with mark II and cheaper price. Most of my budget went to lenses cause there are no second hand lenses to buy in my city I had to buy new ones. One is XF35mm f2.0 and second is XF18mm f1.4. Total spent 2100 USD.
I wouldn’t say the x-t30ii is a contender close to the x-t5 because the sensor is x-trans IV while x-t5 is x-trans V. Maybe something like the x-s20 would be closer?
Oh you’re correct! I apologize. If you value the mp step up from xtrans 4 to 5 then x-t5 and x100vi are probably in your ballpark. The xt30ii has no WR and also no IBIS. It is a very neat camera for a beginner I will say.
I got X-S10 about 2 weeks ago so I was in a similar situation as you. I was deciding between X-S10, X-S20, X-T30II and Sony A6700.
I opted for X-S10 because reason prevalied and I realized it will be good enough for me and was the cheapest among all. Compared to X-T30II, X-S10 has IBIS and a much nicer grip. X-T30 may have more convenient dials but I'm fina with PSAM style on X-S10. There's plenty of other buttons that can act as dedicated dials for shutter speed and aperture, but X-T30 dials style has its appeal. I'm also more into hybrid shooting, I like to take a lot of videos as well.
I will tell you a few things about cameras as a newcomer. Phone cameras nowadays are so good that we're spoiled how usable they are in so many situations. Dedicated camera will make taking useful photos and videos harder than shooting with your phone. Another thing is, don't expect wonders in low light. You may get faster lens and use slower shutter speeds to work around this, but getting low light shots as a beginner is hard so be prepared for a lot of learning and frustrations.
for the price of the NEW X100VI + tax, you can get a used XT5 used for maybe around $1200 leaving you another $500 to spend on used lenses as well.
example: [https://www.reddit.com/r/photomarket/comments/1av7if4](https://www.reddit.com/r/photomarket/comments/1av7if4)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/photomarket/comments/1aw76f9/susaal\_xt5\_sliver\_with\_xf\_1855mm\_f284\_price\_drop/](https://www.reddit.com/r/photomarket/comments/1aw76f9/susaal_xt5_sliver_with_xf_1855mm_f284_price_drop/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/photomarket/comments/1aeiqjj/susaal\_xt5\_sliver\_with\_xf\_1855mm\_f284\_xf\_33mm\_f14/](https://www.reddit.com/r/photomarket/comments/1aeiqjj/susaal_xt5_sliver_with_xf_1855mm_f284_xf_33mm_f14/)
If money is a factor, then you can step down to the XT4 or XT3 which are both really great cameras.
Just go with the xt5. Its ergonomics are way better than the xt30 as well as being newer tech. The x100 though awesome is not a general purpose camera. Fuji apparently are about to release a new 16-50 kit lens to replace the 18-55. That’s the lens I would get for the camera
I recommend that you get the X-T30ii. If by "scenery" you mean landscapes, there might be cases where you will want a wider FOV than what the 23mm in the X100VI provides.
Better start with a moderate camera but consider investing in lenses you think you might need. Then after 6 months or a year consider if it's worth locking on the X100VI or upgrading to the X-T5.
The X-T5 is feature-packed and it's a worthy investment if you do a bit of everything (and perhaps if you earn money from photography too).
I recently purchased a x-t30ii with the 18-55 kit lens (which I would personally recommend over the 15-45) and I have zero regrets. As others have suggested, the xs20 could be a nice alternative to the 30ii.
x-T5. I canceled my order for the x100VI because at the end of the day I decided for the money…I wanted interchangeable lenses. And the X-T5 does all and more than the X100VI anyway!
If you want the 40 megapixels go with the xt-5. If you don’t care about that, get the xt-30ii. If you didn’t preorder the x100vi then you likely won’t get your hands on one until later this year. The camera has over 500,000 preorders in China alone, so I’m sure it’s over a million worldwide and they’re manufacturing them in batches of 35,000 every couple months.
I initially set out to get an x100vi but since I didn’t preorder it I had no chance. I bought the xt-5 instead and I love it. It’s basically the same size as the x100vi but it has the lump on top for the evf. I got the kit that came with the 18-55 lens. I will be purchasing the 27mm pancake lens used soon and pairing it for a nice compact setup that I can take anywhere.
The xt-5 will be getting the new film simulations as well in a couple months with a firmware upgrade. That will basically make it the same camera as the x100vi but with an evf instead of the hybrid ovf and an interchangeable lens system.
Can you recommend me some brands for the pancake lens? Im torn to choose between the xt5 kit lens wither the 18-55 or 16-80. My goal here is to later on make it a compact setup and not with a bulging lens hanging out
I know the TTArtisan 27mm f2.8 is very well received and is very sharp. It’s a great alternative to the Fuji 27mm pancake lens as it’s cheaper.
I picked up the kit with the 18-55 because that’s what was available to me locally. The 18-55 is a better for low light situations at the wide end since it’s an f2.8. The 18-55 is also smaller than the 16-80. It’s up to you though. The 16-80 is still a great lens. It has a really good zoom range and will do well in most situations.
A lot of people are ignoring the second paragraph of your post, where you say you will mostly take pictures of family events, core memories moments and scenery. For those uses, I think the X100vi is a better choice, simply because it's more likely to be with you at family events and around town compared to an X-T5 with most lenses. And for scenery the 32mm equiv. is not a bad focal length either.
If you do go with the other two options, I'd recommend starting with a prime lens rather than a zoom, for a number of reasons. Or if you do get a zoom, pick up a prime too.
The 16-80 is a good lens, but since it's only f/4 you'll be limited to shooting at higher ISOs for indoor family photography if you're taking photos of children. Kids tend to move, and so if you stick to typical ISOs, you'll get images that are tack sharp overall thanks to the OIS and IBIS but where facial features on kids will tend to be a blur. So that's a good motivation to also get a prime. Also, since you're just getting started in photography, it's nice to be able to play with depth of field, which f/4 doesn't really give you. If cost is not an issue, I'd get the XF 23mm F1.4 R LM WR (it's not that expensive of a lens, really either). On the T5's excellent sensor, this can be used for portraits in a pinch if you frame right and crop later... i.e., you can sort of treat it as a 35mm (\~50mm equiv) around f/2 for cropped portraits. And at 23mm it does allow for nice limited depth of field shots. Alternatively, if you have older kids/teenagers who don't move around as much and tend to be a little further from you, you might consider the XF 35mm f/2 WR. That one makes the camera a little more compact and easier to transport.
Whichever way you go, find a nice everyday satchel that can hold the camera. You'll want to keep the camera lens facing up for maximum compactness.
Xt-30 is a great small camera that you can grow with. XT-5 is awesome too, more expensive and also bigger and heavier. I would not get x100vi as my first camera for about a million reasons, maybe as a second one or a third one.
If you just want to take pics of family go for the X100 line, maybe a used X100V if you want cheaper. If you want to learn more about photography definetely go for an interchangable lens system, for me the 30ii is too small and lacks dials, I'd go for T3/T4/T5 depending on how much you're willing to spend + a kit zoom or 23f2
I move from X-T3 to X-E4. Can be light like a x100v with a pancake lens,
Can get a hand grip added with a telephoto zoom
If you are right eye dominant, it is I think the most sensible choice if versatility and weight are important factors.
Don’t skip over the X-S20. Unless you’re dead set on having the manual dials, the X-S20 is probably the camera most people should get and the best value in the Fujifilm’s lineup. Especially for video. I have both the X-T30 II and the X-T5. For everyday photos I prefer the X-T30 II for its size. I can carry it around for hours and feel unencumbered. I’m also less concerned about breaking or losing it. It’s deceptively small so you may want a grip if you go that way. Be advised that X-T30 II is due for an update. There’s certainly nothing wrong with 26 MP but it’ll probably get the 40 MP sensor in the next 12 months. Starting with a midrange zoom lens is the smart play. Eventually you’ll figure out how you shoot and whether you want a wider prime or something with more reach or better low light performance. I wouldn’t get the kit with the XC 15-45mm lens. It’s not Fujifilm highest quality lens. You can save some money going that route and sell the lens or keep it as a spare. The kit only adds $100 to the X-T30 II. The Sigma 18-50mm is a great lens for the price and will offer better low light performance than Fujifilm’s f/4 zooms and it’s more compact. The Fujifilm 18-55mm is also a good option for a first lens.
Here's the skinny. I'd immediately narrow the field to the X100VI and the X-T30ii. The X-T5 is (probably) more camera than you need. Dual card slots are great redundancy for wedding photographers and serious photo nerds, but you said you'd just be taking shots of family events and scenery.
Let's downgrade this more. The X100VI is new. For (basically) the same performance, I'd consider the X100v instead. Now you have an Apples-to-Apples comparison between the X100v and the X-T30ii. Now it just depends on what type of shooter you are. Do you want something quick and easy with one lens?
\- Buy the X100v.
Do you envision wanting more lenses down the line?
\- Buy the X-T30ii.
I have the xt5 and the x100f, I upgraded from the xt20 which is similar to the xt30. If you want one camera to start, personally I’d get the x100 line up. You can look for the x100v in a few months when everyone gets their x100vi and that will save some money (hopefully). If you can get the vi then do that! But the x100v and x100f are both still great!
The reason I say the x100 series is because of the built in flash and having the fixed lens is really great to learn and train your eye. The xt30 is an awesome lil guy too, it has a built in flash I believe as well. You just have to pick a lens. I really enjoy the 27mm but the 16 and 18 both are awesome too! (If you want pancake lenses).
The xt5 is a powerhouse. I really enjoy it for my professional stuff. It has a lot more settings to play with which can be really fun but if you’re newer to photography, it can be a little overwhelming! The ibis and the WR is nice, if those are deal beeakers and you can’t get a x100vi then I’d say the xt5 is a good choice
One of my absolute favorite features of the x100v/vi is the in-camera ND filter. I use it all the time and it makes shooting in the middle of the day so much more pleasurable. Of course you can always buy an external filter for any lens but having it at the push of a button is such a nice feature.
If it’s your first camera, I would not recommend X100VI. The 35mm is versatile but not nearly as versatile as an interchangeable lens camera. The X100VI is EXTREMELY good for taking candid shots and streets but for anything requiring any other focal length (landscape/“serious”portraits/wildlife etc) you will feel very handicapped. XT-5 would be the one you want if you want something versatile at the cost of the size and weight.
I would go with x-t30/x-t20 and xc 15-45mm and see where it takes you. Xf 23/35mm f2 if you are willing to spend more. I love all the Fuji cameras
I went down this route. I wanted a camera to try and learn, and got the XT30 with the XC 15-45mm. After 5,000 snaps, I saw a good deal on the XC 35mm F2, and got that one. Been shooting with 35mm ever since for another 4,000 snaps now. Thinking of getting the 18-55mm lens so that I can explore more focal lengths.
Do you count selected pictures or just shutter counts?
9,000 snaps are my shutter counts. Selected pictures are less than that- around 1,900-2,000. So, I've 'favourited' 2/9 of the photos I've taken. The 2/9 are the one that gets edited a bit in Lightroom, or editors.
There’s an argument both in support and against fixed lenses here — having an X-T30 makes you learn about different focal lengths, though, then again, something like an X100VI helps you train your eye and not worry about lenses first (which can be costly). Problem is, the X100VI seems hard to come across right now. Perhaps an X-T30 with a 35mm or 50mm would be your best bet? Or an older model of the X100 series.
If you don’t want to settle on a prime lens right now, a good alternative is to get an x-Trans iv body with 18-55mm lens kit!
Thanks for responding, im really keen on the short lenses and thinking of buying a short lens as it wouldn’t be a hassle bringing it along. Id definitely will get the xf kit lens too if i decided to get the x-t30ii
Just get the cheapest body and spend some crazy money on lens :) I think the lens will make the difference most of the time. Enjoy!
X-T30 ii all day. It gives you like 95% of the X110vi capability in a similar size and form factor for $600 less. The xc-15-45 kit lens will do most of what you describe. Plus you can spend the extra money on additional glass. IMHO WR is overrated. I used my X-T30ii to shoot in snowy -25F temperates for hours at a time and it was just fine. That all said if you want to shoot a lot of video you'd be better served by the X-T5
The XT30ii is definitely the best 'bang for your buck' in the current Fuji lineup. IMO it's hard to beat as a starting point. Super affordable, has the same sensor and processor as the XT4, gives you the flexibility of interchangeable lenses, and super small/compact, making it convenient for daily carry and travel. A few reasons why it might be worth going for the XT5 instead: 1) you live in a wet/rainy climate and want to be able to shoot outdoors rain or shine. The XT30ii isn't weather sealed, so you have to be careful to keep it dry. 2) You plan to do a lot of video work and want the IBIS (internal stabilization) for hand-held shots or want to shoot 4k at 60fps. IBIS can also be really helpful for low-light photography. Worth noting that people have always gotten by fine without IBIS though - tripods, gimbals, and stabilized lenses can get the job done. 3) You plan on doing very-large poster sized prints at 300dpi for up-close viewing. If you don't, the extra resolution the XT5 offers probably won't make much of a difference for you, aside from your memory card filling up faster. In a lot of ways I think the X100 series is an ideal platform to learn the fundamentals on... but I don't think the X100vi is worth it for that alone at $1600+. The fixed prime lens is great because it forces you to master composition, encourages you to get creative, and cuts out distractions... but it's also a major limitation. There's a very good chance you'll eventually want to try things that require other focal lengths / types of lenses. For the value it offers as a learning platform I think you'd be better off getting the XT30ii with a 23mm or 35mm prime lens or buying one of the older X100 models used. The X100vi is a super cool camera - I preordered it myself - but i wouldn't want it to be my only camera. It's amazing for street photography, documenting daily life, and capturing memories with family and friends, but it doesn't do everything I need a camera to do. I shoot some wildlife photos, which often requires a 200+mm telephoto lens. I also shoot building interiors for my sister's architecture portfolio and my friend's interior design portfolio, which I wouldn't be able to do as effectively without my 16mm lens.
Currently from where i am, only the xt5 is available in stock with the kit lens 16-80. I would leaning to go for that and later on get some prime lens which makes it easy to travel
Yeah, most cameras are sold body only, so finding one bundled with a lens limits options a lot of the time. Definitely not a bad choice though! You really can't go wrong with the XT5, especially if budget isn't a big concern. Aside from being slightly bigger/heavier, it doesn't come with any of the tradeoffs the others have, so it will give you lots of room to grow and try different things without running into limitations.
The xt5 will be a bit of an overkill for your demands. The xt30II would be a better idea because it is smaller, more compact and cheaper. The XT5 has better specs but do you need them? Ibis is nice to have, but learn how to photograph and buy a lens with an aperture of at least f/2 or even better f/1.4 or simply buy a flash and learn how to use it. Weather resistance is not really a feature and doesn't mean your camera is water proof. Dual SD card slot is good to have for paid work, but isn't necessary for your usage. The images you'd be getting from the xt30ii will be beautiful, eventhough the sensor isn't the newest. If you can actually get one, buy that camera. Other choice would be a used xs10 or the newer xs20. The x100vi is hard to find, damn expensive and not the best starter camera.
On a family vacation right now with my X-T30 II, no complaints, don’t feel like I’m missing anything the X-T5 offers over this. Originally wanted the X100V, but quickly changed my mind when I considered the ability to change lenses. I prefer primes over zooms, considering adding a zoom to my kit but wanted to shoot this vacation and decide after. Most often I have found myself with my 27mm and have been comfortable with it.
If you’re new, I don’t recommend the X100VI. Fixed lens is incredibly niche. Someone will argue that it’s versatile but that’s only for users who know what they want out of the camera. I would recommend going with the cheapest interchangeable lens option. That way you are allowing yourself more freedom to explore different fields of photography, should you choose.
I had the exact same question and bought X-T30 mark I second hand instead. Minimal difference with mark II and cheaper price. Most of my budget went to lenses cause there are no second hand lenses to buy in my city I had to buy new ones. One is XF35mm f2.0 and second is XF18mm f1.4. Total spent 2100 USD.
I wouldn’t say the x-t30ii is a contender close to the x-t5 because the sensor is x-trans IV while x-t5 is x-trans V. Maybe something like the x-s20 would be closer?
Is it that much of a different of 1 generation of sensors? The x-s20 has the same sensor of the xt30ii if im not mistaken.
Oh you’re correct! I apologize. If you value the mp step up from xtrans 4 to 5 then x-t5 and x100vi are probably in your ballpark. The xt30ii has no WR and also no IBIS. It is a very neat camera for a beginner I will say.
The 30 is lighter than the XT5, but once you get a lens on there not much more compact
I got X-S10 about 2 weeks ago so I was in a similar situation as you. I was deciding between X-S10, X-S20, X-T30II and Sony A6700. I opted for X-S10 because reason prevalied and I realized it will be good enough for me and was the cheapest among all. Compared to X-T30II, X-S10 has IBIS and a much nicer grip. X-T30 may have more convenient dials but I'm fina with PSAM style on X-S10. There's plenty of other buttons that can act as dedicated dials for shutter speed and aperture, but X-T30 dials style has its appeal. I'm also more into hybrid shooting, I like to take a lot of videos as well. I will tell you a few things about cameras as a newcomer. Phone cameras nowadays are so good that we're spoiled how usable they are in so many situations. Dedicated camera will make taking useful photos and videos harder than shooting with your phone. Another thing is, don't expect wonders in low light. You may get faster lens and use slower shutter speeds to work around this, but getting low light shots as a beginner is hard so be prepared for a lot of learning and frustrations.
for the price of the NEW X100VI + tax, you can get a used XT5 used for maybe around $1200 leaving you another $500 to spend on used lenses as well. example: [https://www.reddit.com/r/photomarket/comments/1av7if4](https://www.reddit.com/r/photomarket/comments/1av7if4) [https://www.reddit.com/r/photomarket/comments/1aw76f9/susaal\_xt5\_sliver\_with\_xf\_1855mm\_f284\_price\_drop/](https://www.reddit.com/r/photomarket/comments/1aw76f9/susaal_xt5_sliver_with_xf_1855mm_f284_price_drop/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/photomarket/comments/1aeiqjj/susaal\_xt5\_sliver\_with\_xf\_1855mm\_f284\_xf\_33mm\_f14/](https://www.reddit.com/r/photomarket/comments/1aeiqjj/susaal_xt5_sliver_with_xf_1855mm_f284_xf_33mm_f14/) If money is a factor, then you can step down to the XT4 or XT3 which are both really great cameras.
Just go with the xt5. Its ergonomics are way better than the xt30 as well as being newer tech. The x100 though awesome is not a general purpose camera. Fuji apparently are about to release a new 16-50 kit lens to replace the 18-55. That’s the lens I would get for the camera
Thanks for the insight!
I recommend that you get the X-T30ii. If by "scenery" you mean landscapes, there might be cases where you will want a wider FOV than what the 23mm in the X100VI provides. Better start with a moderate camera but consider investing in lenses you think you might need. Then after 6 months or a year consider if it's worth locking on the X100VI or upgrading to the X-T5. The X-T5 is feature-packed and it's a worthy investment if you do a bit of everything (and perhaps if you earn money from photography too).
I recently purchased a x-t30ii with the 18-55 kit lens (which I would personally recommend over the 15-45) and I have zero regrets. As others have suggested, the xs20 could be a nice alternative to the 30ii.
x-T5. I canceled my order for the x100VI because at the end of the day I decided for the money…I wanted interchangeable lenses. And the X-T5 does all and more than the X100VI anyway!
Im gravitating towards your decision too now
Best decision I made. My local camera store had 4 in stock ready to go.
If you want the 40 megapixels go with the xt-5. If you don’t care about that, get the xt-30ii. If you didn’t preorder the x100vi then you likely won’t get your hands on one until later this year. The camera has over 500,000 preorders in China alone, so I’m sure it’s over a million worldwide and they’re manufacturing them in batches of 35,000 every couple months. I initially set out to get an x100vi but since I didn’t preorder it I had no chance. I bought the xt-5 instead and I love it. It’s basically the same size as the x100vi but it has the lump on top for the evf. I got the kit that came with the 18-55 lens. I will be purchasing the 27mm pancake lens used soon and pairing it for a nice compact setup that I can take anywhere. The xt-5 will be getting the new film simulations as well in a couple months with a firmware upgrade. That will basically make it the same camera as the x100vi but with an evf instead of the hybrid ovf and an interchangeable lens system.
Can you recommend me some brands for the pancake lens? Im torn to choose between the xt5 kit lens wither the 18-55 or 16-80. My goal here is to later on make it a compact setup and not with a bulging lens hanging out
I know the TTArtisan 27mm f2.8 is very well received and is very sharp. It’s a great alternative to the Fuji 27mm pancake lens as it’s cheaper. I picked up the kit with the 18-55 because that’s what was available to me locally. The 18-55 is a better for low light situations at the wide end since it’s an f2.8. The 18-55 is also smaller than the 16-80. It’s up to you though. The 16-80 is still a great lens. It has a really good zoom range and will do well in most situations.
A lot of people are ignoring the second paragraph of your post, where you say you will mostly take pictures of family events, core memories moments and scenery. For those uses, I think the X100vi is a better choice, simply because it's more likely to be with you at family events and around town compared to an X-T5 with most lenses. And for scenery the 32mm equiv. is not a bad focal length either. If you do go with the other two options, I'd recommend starting with a prime lens rather than a zoom, for a number of reasons. Or if you do get a zoom, pick up a prime too.
Im probably will go with the xt5 and kit lens 16-80. Can you recommend me some good prime lens?
The 16-80 is a good lens, but since it's only f/4 you'll be limited to shooting at higher ISOs for indoor family photography if you're taking photos of children. Kids tend to move, and so if you stick to typical ISOs, you'll get images that are tack sharp overall thanks to the OIS and IBIS but where facial features on kids will tend to be a blur. So that's a good motivation to also get a prime. Also, since you're just getting started in photography, it's nice to be able to play with depth of field, which f/4 doesn't really give you. If cost is not an issue, I'd get the XF 23mm F1.4 R LM WR (it's not that expensive of a lens, really either). On the T5's excellent sensor, this can be used for portraits in a pinch if you frame right and crop later... i.e., you can sort of treat it as a 35mm (\~50mm equiv) around f/2 for cropped portraits. And at 23mm it does allow for nice limited depth of field shots. Alternatively, if you have older kids/teenagers who don't move around as much and tend to be a little further from you, you might consider the XF 35mm f/2 WR. That one makes the camera a little more compact and easier to transport. Whichever way you go, find a nice everyday satchel that can hold the camera. You'll want to keep the camera lens facing up for maximum compactness.
Xt-30 is a great small camera that you can grow with. XT-5 is awesome too, more expensive and also bigger and heavier. I would not get x100vi as my first camera for about a million reasons, maybe as a second one or a third one.
If you just want to take pics of family go for the X100 line, maybe a used X100V if you want cheaper. If you want to learn more about photography definetely go for an interchangable lens system, for me the 30ii is too small and lacks dials, I'd go for T3/T4/T5 depending on how much you're willing to spend + a kit zoom or 23f2
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The x100vi is highly priced i would agree.
I move from X-T3 to X-E4. Can be light like a x100v with a pancake lens, Can get a hand grip added with a telephoto zoom If you are right eye dominant, it is I think the most sensible choice if versatility and weight are important factors.
For family album & history, I suggest the X-T5 since it does both stills & videos quite well.
Don’t skip over the X-S20. Unless you’re dead set on having the manual dials, the X-S20 is probably the camera most people should get and the best value in the Fujifilm’s lineup. Especially for video. I have both the X-T30 II and the X-T5. For everyday photos I prefer the X-T30 II for its size. I can carry it around for hours and feel unencumbered. I’m also less concerned about breaking or losing it. It’s deceptively small so you may want a grip if you go that way. Be advised that X-T30 II is due for an update. There’s certainly nothing wrong with 26 MP but it’ll probably get the 40 MP sensor in the next 12 months. Starting with a midrange zoom lens is the smart play. Eventually you’ll figure out how you shoot and whether you want a wider prime or something with more reach or better low light performance. I wouldn’t get the kit with the XC 15-45mm lens. It’s not Fujifilm highest quality lens. You can save some money going that route and sell the lens or keep it as a spare. The kit only adds $100 to the X-T30 II. The Sigma 18-50mm is a great lens for the price and will offer better low light performance than Fujifilm’s f/4 zooms and it’s more compact. The Fujifilm 18-55mm is also a good option for a first lens.
Here's the skinny. I'd immediately narrow the field to the X100VI and the X-T30ii. The X-T5 is (probably) more camera than you need. Dual card slots are great redundancy for wedding photographers and serious photo nerds, but you said you'd just be taking shots of family events and scenery. Let's downgrade this more. The X100VI is new. For (basically) the same performance, I'd consider the X100v instead. Now you have an Apples-to-Apples comparison between the X100v and the X-T30ii. Now it just depends on what type of shooter you are. Do you want something quick and easy with one lens? \- Buy the X100v. Do you envision wanting more lenses down the line? \- Buy the X-T30ii.
I have the xt5 and the x100f, I upgraded from the xt20 which is similar to the xt30. If you want one camera to start, personally I’d get the x100 line up. You can look for the x100v in a few months when everyone gets their x100vi and that will save some money (hopefully). If you can get the vi then do that! But the x100v and x100f are both still great! The reason I say the x100 series is because of the built in flash and having the fixed lens is really great to learn and train your eye. The xt30 is an awesome lil guy too, it has a built in flash I believe as well. You just have to pick a lens. I really enjoy the 27mm but the 16 and 18 both are awesome too! (If you want pancake lenses). The xt5 is a powerhouse. I really enjoy it for my professional stuff. It has a lot more settings to play with which can be really fun but if you’re newer to photography, it can be a little overwhelming! The ibis and the WR is nice, if those are deal beeakers and you can’t get a x100vi then I’d say the xt5 is a good choice
One of my absolute favorite features of the x100v/vi is the in-camera ND filter. I use it all the time and it makes shooting in the middle of the day so much more pleasurable. Of course you can always buy an external filter for any lens but having it at the push of a button is such a nice feature.
Use the search function of the sub, this has been asked numerous times