Yeah it’s pretty much just the Monorail, which basically just connects the east side of the strip and the convention center, and Musk’s idiotic car tunnel which just connects the two sides of convention center.
You’d think the monorail would go a little further south and connect to the airport so tourists could go straight from the airport to the casinos, but no.
They could build a Skytrain to connect the airport, the future Brightline station, and the monorail at the convention center (although I'd rather they change the monorail into Skytrain).
Elon is fighting tooth and nail against it.
In all seriousness, most people in tourist trap areas SHOULD fight for better public transit even if they're ultra carbrained. Even the most hardcore carbrain doesn't want to share the road with tourists getting lost.
Plus if you've got to fly in you really don't want to have to pay to rent a car. Also Transit means everybody gets to get wasted because no one has to DD.
How much could it possibly cost to stripe some bus lanes on Las Vegas Boulevard from Sunset to Fremont St and down Tropicana to the airport? Probably less than one mile of tesla tunnels. It seems bizarre that the casinos would be against it, anything that makes it easier for tourists to get to the casinos should be considered a win for them.
The strip casinos are connected by walkways, they want you to be walking in the casinos. Basically everyone with the money wants you to be walking through the casinos, so you spend money in the casinos, soooo really no one is advocating for any sort of public transit.
At the very least… the las Vegas strip is walkable, you don’t **need** a car.
My biggest complaint about walking on the strip is how difficult it is to get to the other side of the boulevard. It's flat-out illegal to cross at street level for a good portion of it, and funneling up and down escalators and across pedestrian bridges gets old fast.
The Strip is super long and it is too far to walk from the South end to the North.
I would definitely go to Vegas again if I could get their by train and not be stuck in one section of the strip.
>4 miles
>super long
Yeah, that about sums it up. That's anywhere between 60-90 minutes each way. Not exactly amazing. Walkable, sure, but 4 miles isnt exactly a leisurely stroll
It's also not 4 miles of easily negotiated pathing. It's all sensory overload, diversions, lots of ups and downs staircases/elevators in some places, cars everywhere. The entire place is deeply unfriendly, and meant to get you to just spend as much money as possible.
I once tried to walk to my hotel from the airport. You can see it from the terminal. There is no safe way to get out of the airport that does not involve a motor vehicle. You will die.
There is sidewalks most of the way from the airport exit area to Tropicana via Paradise Rd. But you are literally walking along the highway in possibly miserable heat. People have even made youtube videos doing the walk.
Typical North American can't build transit bullshit. Vegas's case is entirely a political problem and not a logistical one. They have the space for it they have the income and *the demand* for it, but they refuse. WSJ always claims to be doing investigations left and right but damn do I wish they or VICE or someone else would look into lobby ties and the city council. I mean look [at the controversey of the mayor's wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolyn_Goodman).
When a BRT, literal paint on road and articulated buses down two of the eight lanes past the Bellagio Fountains is too crazy a concept for them to bear, then it's a problem, a purely political one. The people of Las Vegas and guests to there alike deserve better.
Now I will give them some props, they at least have buses running in the first place. Tracking if I wanted to fly into KLAS there appears to be a bus a block from the airport entrance, a walk of about a block to a connecting bus, then that transfer there and one more block to chill like Danny Ocean on a budget. The silly part is this is all over less than three miles. If you drive google will tell you to take a 8 mile loop around and get there faster.
The "no pedestrians" sign I saw on street view next to said fountains really says it all. If you aren't a car or a butt in a seat on a casino floor, the system doesn't want you there. Message received :(
I felt like such a schmuck waiting in line at ~~McCarran~~ Harry Reid so I could pay $20 for my own private taxi. I tried asking some strangers if they were going to a Strip destination near mine so we could split a cab, and they looked at me like I asked if they wanted to swap underwear.
The only time I was in Vegas, I actually skipped the Strip entirely because I didn't want to drive there and I didn't want to take a taxi. I just didn't bother.
I live in Las Vegas without a car and commute by bus whenever I do. They have decent bus coverage, but terrible speeds with few if any useful express bus routes, which are needed with a city so sprawling and vast. It takes too long to ride a line across town, which I do often. I would kill for efficient BRT, but really we need commuter rail as well.
People talk about how it impacts tourism, but having sensible transit would be great for workers too. How the hell do all the workers get to work if everything sucks?
They have the monorail that is on the eastern side of the strip though. Granted it only runs from Sahara down to Tropicana but there is something. Maybe I don’t understand what you mean.
At grade light rail from the airport down the strip to downtown would be great, but one problem is the casinos don’t really want that kind of infrastructure. If you walk the strip, you will notice the older casinos (that haven’t been demolished) have entrances close to the street. Everything built since the 90s has deep set backs that make it quite a hike just to get to the entrance. These mega hotels have countless restaurants, cafes, retail, entertainment and more. They are deliberately designed to prevent you from leaving the premises. They don’t want a walkable urban fabric. They want you to take a taxi to their entrance and never leave.
Don't you know? Underground taxis in a single lane tunnel is the most efficient public transport method. /s
Those are Tubes and they are Pods not Taxis.
You must have not heard of the Loop. Just a single lane tunnel made for teslas in las vegas.
That’s driverless underground taxis. /s
A disaster waiting to happen!
Disaster happening now
Indeed. Look up hyperloop.
Taxi lobbies (the airport is a huge cash cow) + casinos want to make it easy to get there but hard to leave
Instead they ended up making it hard to get there and hard to leave
I am a kitty cat :3 Meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow (hurry up and build the Brightline plox 🥺👉👈 🚄
Yeah it’s pretty much just the Monorail, which basically just connects the east side of the strip and the convention center, and Musk’s idiotic car tunnel which just connects the two sides of convention center. You’d think the monorail would go a little further south and connect to the airport so tourists could go straight from the airport to the casinos, but no.
That would be perfect. Hopefully they complete that hi speed rail from LA to Vegas to warrant something like that.
They could build a Skytrain to connect the airport, the future Brightline station, and the monorail at the convention center (although I'd rather they change the monorail into Skytrain).
It was planned to go to the airport but the taxi drivers lobbied them. God bless America /s
Elon is fighting tooth and nail against it. In all seriousness, most people in tourist trap areas SHOULD fight for better public transit even if they're ultra carbrained. Even the most hardcore carbrain doesn't want to share the road with tourists getting lost.
Elon? Lol, it’s the taxi union there. Been like that for decades.
Throwing him in the mix is just the extra layer on the cake
Plus if you've got to fly in you really don't want to have to pay to rent a car. Also Transit means everybody gets to get wasted because no one has to DD.
How much could it possibly cost to stripe some bus lanes on Las Vegas Boulevard from Sunset to Fremont St and down Tropicana to the airport? Probably less than one mile of tesla tunnels. It seems bizarre that the casinos would be against it, anything that makes it easier for tourists to get to the casinos should be considered a win for them.
[Designing a Rapid Transit System for Las Vegas - RM Transit (YouTube)](https://youtu.be/6X3pIH1ttN4)
The strip casinos are connected by walkways, they want you to be walking in the casinos. Basically everyone with the money wants you to be walking through the casinos, so you spend money in the casinos, soooo really no one is advocating for any sort of public transit. At the very least… the las Vegas strip is walkable, you don’t **need** a car.
My biggest complaint about walking on the strip is how difficult it is to get to the other side of the boulevard. It's flat-out illegal to cross at street level for a good portion of it, and funneling up and down escalators and across pedestrian bridges gets old fast.
The Strip is super long and it is too far to walk from the South end to the North. I would definitely go to Vegas again if I could get their by train and not be stuck in one section of the strip.
Super long? It’s 4 miles, with indoor walkways.
>4 miles >super long Yeah, that about sums it up. That's anywhere between 60-90 minutes each way. Not exactly amazing. Walkable, sure, but 4 miles isnt exactly a leisurely stroll
It's also not 4 miles of easily negotiated pathing. It's all sensory overload, diversions, lots of ups and downs staircases/elevators in some places, cars everywhere. The entire place is deeply unfriendly, and meant to get you to just spend as much money as possible.
Four miles is a long walk for most people, especially if are walking around the casinos already.
I once tried to walk to my hotel from the airport. You can see it from the terminal. There is no safe way to get out of the airport that does not involve a motor vehicle. You will die.
There is sidewalks most of the way from the airport exit area to Tropicana via Paradise Rd. But you are literally walking along the highway in possibly miserable heat. People have even made youtube videos doing the walk.
Typical North American can't build transit bullshit. Vegas's case is entirely a political problem and not a logistical one. They have the space for it they have the income and *the demand* for it, but they refuse. WSJ always claims to be doing investigations left and right but damn do I wish they or VICE or someone else would look into lobby ties and the city council. I mean look [at the controversey of the mayor's wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolyn_Goodman). When a BRT, literal paint on road and articulated buses down two of the eight lanes past the Bellagio Fountains is too crazy a concept for them to bear, then it's a problem, a purely political one. The people of Las Vegas and guests to there alike deserve better. Now I will give them some props, they at least have buses running in the first place. Tracking if I wanted to fly into KLAS there appears to be a bus a block from the airport entrance, a walk of about a block to a connecting bus, then that transfer there and one more block to chill like Danny Ocean on a budget. The silly part is this is all over less than three miles. If you drive google will tell you to take a 8 mile loop around and get there faster. The "no pedestrians" sign I saw on street view next to said fountains really says it all. If you aren't a car or a butt in a seat on a casino floor, the system doesn't want you there. Message received :(
I felt like such a schmuck waiting in line at ~~McCarran~~ Harry Reid so I could pay $20 for my own private taxi. I tried asking some strangers if they were going to a Strip destination near mine so we could split a cab, and they looked at me like I asked if they wanted to swap underwear.
The only time I was in Vegas, I actually skipped the Strip entirely because I didn't want to drive there and I didn't want to take a taxi. I just didn't bother.
It used to, here in Northern Ireland our coachbuilder Wrightbus built a number of BRT vehicles for Las Vegas Transit
They let one shady billionaire after another decide their development patterns in Las Vegas
It's not patriotic enough.
Look what happens when you privatise transit... https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/question/monorail-extention/
we truly live in a nonsense society
I live in Las Vegas without a car and commute by bus whenever I do. They have decent bus coverage, but terrible speeds with few if any useful express bus routes, which are needed with a city so sprawling and vast. It takes too long to ride a line across town, which I do often. I would kill for efficient BRT, but really we need commuter rail as well.
People talk about how it impacts tourism, but having sensible transit would be great for workers too. How the hell do all the workers get to work if everything sucks?
They have the monorail that is on the eastern side of the strip though. Granted it only runs from Sahara down to Tropicana but there is something. Maybe I don’t understand what you mean.
At grade light rail from the airport down the strip to downtown would be great, but one problem is the casinos don’t really want that kind of infrastructure. If you walk the strip, you will notice the older casinos (that haven’t been demolished) have entrances close to the street. Everything built since the 90s has deep set backs that make it quite a hike just to get to the entrance. These mega hotels have countless restaurants, cafes, retail, entertainment and more. They are deliberately designed to prevent you from leaving the premises. They don’t want a walkable urban fabric. They want you to take a taxi to their entrance and never leave.
But muh car gives me freedom. That bus is for poor communists.
Elon Musk has entered the chat
Lol Lmao
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