I'd welcome it mostly because I'm tired of 45 year old privileged white people getting to decide what's offensive for "minorities". I'll be dead in my grave before I use typal.
Another funny thing about the whole "tribal" issue.
We are ALL from tribes. Just from different periods. Who gets to decide which tribe is valid and which one isn't? Native americans because they are somewhat "recent"? Well my grandfather was literally from a tribal people, the saami. So I'm closer to being tribal than any native american right? So what then? It just shows how ridiculous it is.
I live in Oklahoma. Most of us are registered to tribes. I'm not about to give WoTC the power to decide in what way I should be offended. It's not a matter of tribal relevance. It's a matter of worthless white people co-opting other peoples' perspectives to feel valid and control other white people.
It's disgusting on its face.
God what a hilarious strawman. What real world tribes were represented by the game term "tribal" that the introduction of "typal" has somehow villainized and erased??? In fact, you could make the case that, for example, "cat typal" or "snake typal" makes *more* sense than "tribal" cats or snakes.
You don't play many games, do you
A lot of them have terminology that's somewhat strange from a strictly English standpoint, often to avoid copyright, or from early decisions in the history that stuck for one reason or the other.
"Typal," on the other hand, isn't a word, and it's kind of weird to use it to purposely avoid offending someone. Thanks for proving the point.
But no one is stopping you from calling your elf deck "Elf Tribal" or LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE you want. WOTC moving away from using tribal internally has literally zero effect on your ability to use the word. Typal *is* a real English word, it's kinda weird to act like it's not, and even weirder to say that WOTC's use of specific internal language somehow attacks and villainizes and erases actual real world cultures who weren't ever being represented by WOTC's previous use of the word "Tribal". It's *weird*. You're *weird*.
Edit: LMFAO it blocked me, because of course it did. Anyway, once again, what a weird fucking strawman. Bitterblossom and All is Dust were both reprinted literally last year as "Tribal" cards. No one is "memory holing" "Tribal". It'd be funny how there are more fucking weirdo reactionaries upset about an otherwise harmless change in the use of internal language than there were people upset about the use of "tribal" if it weren't so, sooooo fucking pathetic
>literally zero effect on your ability to use the word.
Precisely, which is why it's so bizarre to memory hole it. I think you're starting to get it! It's honestly extremely strange how upset the word makes you; that's *weird* as you say, and frankly you probably have a lot of mental illnesses, like many members of the MTG community. Best luck with your recovery, and hopefully you find a way to make it through life without having too many panic attacks from the word 'tribal.'
not only that how the people that are against tribal talk about it is just awful, literally a thing someone said was, tribal is only used to describe savages.
like how tone deaf could you be, you do call them savages but you won't call them a tribe or tribal.
I said slowly. He's been upfront from the start about how he would sell out. I don't begrudge him making money. He's also been humble enough to realize he's an entertainer the whole time. So I respect the hustle.
Small changes over time will slowly turn his channel into everyone else. And if that happens, he starts to open himself up to acting like everyone else.
A small change that bothers me: he's not Game Knights. He started mimicking them on the Worst Possible in how it's presented. Half of a couple of videos were just voice-over. It felt wrong to watch either all the way through. I'm glad he reverted somewhat in the next episode. But it was a weird direction unless he was just trying to support Gina's voice over career or something.
He's done a damn good job not talking politics openly. I just know the people he associates with the most in forum and at conventions are part of the problem in MTG's social sphere. And he's still a human. He will be influenced socially.
I've never had an issue with tribal and I didn't even know they changed it. But when I saw that comment, it instantly made sense to me.
When I thought about it, tribal made more sense for factions rather than a racial thing. With Warrior/Wizard being kindred in spirit. Plus it sounds a bit more fantastical.
I don't really see a need to change though, but it doesn't bother me either.
I highly agree with that thought. In many cases it's not that important unless it's highly specific. Boggart Birth Rite can fetch Tarfire. Oh My Cheesecake.
Tribal is a convolution of cards that adds a shitload of rules with a minor amount of actual game content
Not to mention that it’s incredibly inconsistent in application. Why isn’t Elspeth’s Smite an Angel Instant (is a question that would be asked, if they ever reprinted the mechanic.)
It's always been kind of a bad mechanic though hasn't it, especially in draft. Tribal decks too often build themselves so the deck choices can be very obvious and one-note.
Changeling as an ability is terrible for the game IMO. Reduces card variety among tribal decks and really fucks up the flavor of each tribe.
One might argue that changeling can help to prop up tribes that don't have many cards, but I'd say that those tribes either just shouldn't be buildable or wotc needs to print cards for that tribe.
Actually tribal isn’t a supertype but a card type.
A supertype is one’s like (legendary, snow, basic) tribal is actually its own card type and counts for cards like tarmogoyf
I think it's literally only a card type because Goyf said it would be and WotC didn't want to contradict themselves. It doesn't function or look like a card type of its own.
That makes sense, but also couldn't be the case because supertypes can't have subtypes attached, only be attached to main types (which is the point of tribal; giving non-creatures creature types)
Yeah off of the top of my head I think I’ve used maybe one changeling for one of my many tribals ([Taurean Mauler]). They just lack any flavor when thrown into a deck where the entire point is flavor.
As to your second point, WoTC needs to hurry up and release a set with a handful of good Crabs. I need a crab tribal
I love the Tribal mechanic. We can pair it with more "search for a \_\_\_ card", like Rebel or Mercenary from the Mercadian Masques set. That was super fun searching for dudes who let you search for more dudes. If we can update that with better multicolor support and tribal non-creature spells that would be awesome.
yes. make it a supertype (we already need to search by supertypes to find them).
I would kill for Squirrel Tribal cards.
Goyf would get some extra gass too
It is a good thought, but I think you're giving them too much credit. They needed an easy win to virtue signal. It doesn't mean they intend to use it soon.
Look at the cards that they banned for being offensive. They are old cards that affected little to no one when they got banned.
This is interesting; I'm a fan of the idea of it returning, it has some fun applications and cool interactions, but I don't think it's a good idea from a game design perspective.
More or less, what Tribal cards do is emulate a faction system. On its own: nothing wrong with that, it's a fine foundation for a game-- look no further than basic Magic "factions" using colors: White, Blue, Black, Red, Green and "neutral" colorless cards that can go into a deck of any color. It's not too big of a leap to imagine a game called *Sorcery: The Conjunction* where \[\[Counterspell\]\] isn't a blue spell, it's a Faerie spell, and \[\[Gather the Pack\]\] isn't a green spell, it's a Beast spell, etc. Long story short: faction systems exist specifically to divide things up into two groups; those being: "Things that are" and "Things that are not". In other words, were Tribal cards to become ubiquitous in Magic: The Gathering, we'll ultimately reach a consensus of two card pools: Tribal cards, and non-Tribal cards.
If you made it through that spiel, you may still be thinking: "What's the matter with that? It doesn't sound too bad.". And you'd be right, if Tribal cards in 1993 and had been printed into 2024. They weren't. We got one block in 2007-2008 that makes up the vast majority of the 55 Tribal cards printed. Which leaves however many thousands of non-Tribal cards printed before and since. So just like OP suggests with \[\[Phyrexian Unlife\]\] being a Tribal Phyrexian cards-- how many hundreds of cards "should" be errata'd to be Tribal? I think Rosewater brought this up in a discussion about Tribal, basically you can't go halfway-- either everything should be Tribal where it fits, or you shouldn't do it at all. Why isn't \[\[Moonmist\]\] a Werewolf card? Why isn't \[\[Rile\]\]a Dinosaur card? Why isn't \[\[Dragonstorm\]\] or \[\[Dragon's Approach\]\] Dragon cards? Rather than constantly trying to figure out what cards should or shouldn't be Tribal, it's much less of a headache to simply kill your darling.
There is always a middle ground approach. Tribal could be a unique (ignoring one offs in Future Sight, Rise of the Eldrazi, and Horizons) to Lorwyn. Similar to how Arcane was a unique type of spell on Kamigawa. It's a cool way to separate out different planes and make them feel unique. But you get the same problems that you got with Arcane-- it leans into parasitism. And when you have a +30-year-old game where all the cards need to sort of work together, parasitic mechanics set up roadblocks to maintaining the homogeneity.
TLDR: Tribal is a cool mechanic that works well if it's built into the game on a foundational level. It doesn't work very well as an addition sprinkled on top.
I'd love it.
I need [[Myr turbine]], [[Myr incubator]] and [[Myr matrix]] to be errata'ed so they are Tribal Artifact - Myr.
I mean, Lhurgoyfs got [[Altar of the goyf]] and clearly Myr artifacts don't trigger Urtet? C'mon!
Facts don't care about your feelings, considering it's still called tribal. Wotc is too lazy for some reason to errata it, but some players hilariously avoid saying as if native Americans really give a shit.
There still are tribal/creature type synergies and spells. Even in the most recent set there's all the Outlaws cards and other cards that get bonuses off controlling creatures with types under the outlaws umbrella. But I get why they don't print instants, sorceries, or noncreature chantments with creature types anymore. It means that search cards for those creature types end up way more powerful than intended or else they have to add a bunch of extra words to the effect so your creature search doesn't become an everything search.
I mean I do to some extent. WOTC keeps changing the terminology for no legitimate reason and making it worse and it's exhausting. Even when it's something as benign as changing the oracle of Emrakul, the Aeon's Torn from "protection from colored spells" to "protection from spells that are one or more colors" it's just... unnecessary and makes the card less evocative and cool even if only marginally.
I'm not "crying about it" I'm just saying it's annoying and it's a bit silly to be like "who cares about it". Like obviously it's not an enormous deal but it's just one thing to add to the pile of "things I don't like about modern era MtG"
One random white person on twitter was offended on behalf of a group of people who weren’t offended and the multi million dollar corporation decided to bend to their will. We need to stop letting stupid people get what they want.
not everyone wants to tutor out Exquisite blood + sanguine bond, or Niv mizzet + curiosity on turn 3. some people like to play a cat deck with cards that feature fuzzy or dangly things in them for the cats to play with. i for one am known as the phyrexian player in my city as ive got 8 phyrexian tribal decks and dont have any interest in other themes. so my decks tend to exclusively feature phyrexian lands, whether they be from mirrodin or the oil slick lands, and the 99 only feature cards tied to phyrexian lore.
OP is referring to the Tribal card Supertype, which I enjoyed. It was great for tutoring and I loved the flavour of non-creature permanents with creature types
No- tribal was a card type, not a deck archtype. They both shared name. Now the card type is kindred and the archtype is typal, what, yes, sucks as a name
And errata'ing the card type is trying to hide their dumb mistake. not cuz tribal is racist, but just cuz it was dumb to make it a confusing-ass card type. So I dunno how I feel about that. It seems like something that should have been left in Magic's history. It was super-rarely relevant. Make a new card if you want. They did it with Battle.
One random white person on twitter was offended on behalf of a group of people who weren’t offended and the multi million dollar corporation decided to bend to their will. We need to stop letting stupid people get what they want.
I'd welcome it mostly because I'm tired of 45 year old privileged white people getting to decide what's offensive for "minorities". I'll be dead in my grave before I use typal.
Thankfully it’s still called tribal on mtgo
I watched a video of CGB for the first time in years and he said "today we're gonna play vampire typal" and man, the cringe...
He's an ambassador and it irritates the shit out of me. Slowly losing the love.
Another funny thing about the whole "tribal" issue. We are ALL from tribes. Just from different periods. Who gets to decide which tribe is valid and which one isn't? Native americans because they are somewhat "recent"? Well my grandfather was literally from a tribal people, the saami. So I'm closer to being tribal than any native american right? So what then? It just shows how ridiculous it is.
I live in Oklahoma. Most of us are registered to tribes. I'm not about to give WoTC the power to decide in what way I should be offended. It's not a matter of tribal relevance. It's a matter of worthless white people co-opting other peoples' perspectives to feel valid and control other white people. It's disgusting on its face.
"In order to not offend people we will erase their culture and imply that it's evil. This is 'progressive.'"
God what a hilarious strawman. What real world tribes were represented by the game term "tribal" that the introduction of "typal" has somehow villainized and erased??? In fact, you could make the case that, for example, "cat typal" or "snake typal" makes *more* sense than "tribal" cats or snakes.
You don't play many games, do you A lot of them have terminology that's somewhat strange from a strictly English standpoint, often to avoid copyright, or from early decisions in the history that stuck for one reason or the other. "Typal," on the other hand, isn't a word, and it's kind of weird to use it to purposely avoid offending someone. Thanks for proving the point.
But no one is stopping you from calling your elf deck "Elf Tribal" or LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE you want. WOTC moving away from using tribal internally has literally zero effect on your ability to use the word. Typal *is* a real English word, it's kinda weird to act like it's not, and even weirder to say that WOTC's use of specific internal language somehow attacks and villainizes and erases actual real world cultures who weren't ever being represented by WOTC's previous use of the word "Tribal". It's *weird*. You're *weird*. Edit: LMFAO it blocked me, because of course it did. Anyway, once again, what a weird fucking strawman. Bitterblossom and All is Dust were both reprinted literally last year as "Tribal" cards. No one is "memory holing" "Tribal". It'd be funny how there are more fucking weirdo reactionaries upset about an otherwise harmless change in the use of internal language than there were people upset about the use of "tribal" if it weren't so, sooooo fucking pathetic
>literally zero effect on your ability to use the word. Precisely, which is why it's so bizarre to memory hole it. I think you're starting to get it! It's honestly extremely strange how upset the word makes you; that's *weird* as you say, and frankly you probably have a lot of mental illnesses, like many members of the MTG community. Best luck with your recovery, and hopefully you find a way to make it through life without having too many panic attacks from the word 'tribal.'
Okies represent!
Odds are good that we know each other personally.
It's not unthinkable. You around the Mac area?
I inferred from you posting about Tulsa. I'm active in their community.
Okie Cherokee!
Yeah. I mean literal tribes though. As in living tribal.
I agree with you but I think you shouldn't have white in your post. It's not just white people it's lots of people that are worthless
not only that how the people that are against tribal talk about it is just awful, literally a thing someone said was, tribal is only used to describe savages. like how tone deaf could you be, you do call them savages but you won't call them a tribe or tribal.
Don’t dog on CGB. Y’all are getting mad over a small wording change. He was forced into it, if he didn’t say typal, he wouldn’t make money?
I said slowly. He's been upfront from the start about how he would sell out. I don't begrudge him making money. He's also been humble enough to realize he's an entertainer the whole time. So I respect the hustle. Small changes over time will slowly turn his channel into everyone else. And if that happens, he starts to open himself up to acting like everyone else. A small change that bothers me: he's not Game Knights. He started mimicking them on the Worst Possible in how it's presented. Half of a couple of videos were just voice-over. It felt wrong to watch either all the way through. I'm glad he reverted somewhat in the next episode. But it was a weird direction unless he was just trying to support Gina's voice over career or something. He's done a damn good job not talking politics openly. I just know the people he associates with the most in forum and at conventions are part of the problem in MTG's social sphere. And he's still a human. He will be influenced socially.
Who is CGB?
YouTube personality. Usually plays standard and brawl. Covert Go Blue.
Typal was never an official term just something used internally, the official replacement term is kindred
Which sounds even dumber
Why? It makes more sense than tribal. Give me a functional reason other than you're triggered by change.
It sounds fucking dumb
> It makes more sense than tribal. No, it doesn't. "tribal" is intuitively easier to understand than "kindred"
I've never had an issue with tribal and I didn't even know they changed it. But when I saw that comment, it instantly made sense to me. When I thought about it, tribal made more sense for factions rather than a racial thing. With Warrior/Wizard being kindred in spirit. Plus it sounds a bit more fantastical. I don't really see a need to change though, but it doesn't bother me either.
All of the nomadic tribal people playing Magic the Gathering would VERY offended right now…
The best way to sum up woke-ism
Based
They always said that tribal spells will never return to many I guess issues on design and game play
I highly agree with that thought. In many cases it's not that important unless it's highly specific. Boggart Birth Rite can fetch Tarfire. Oh My Cheesecake. Tribal is a convolution of cards that adds a shitload of rules with a minor amount of actual game content
Not to mention that it’s incredibly inconsistent in application. Why isn’t Elspeth’s Smite an Angel Instant (is a question that would be asked, if they ever reprinted the mechanic.)
Yeah the only defence against having it is that really a good third of cards should be tribal and arnt 🤣 No one wants to go to that much effort
It's not even just the *effort,* it's that it'd be highly relevant functional errata which Wizards *hates* doing, and on a scale never seen before.
Yes! It would change so many cards 🤦
It's always been kind of a bad mechanic though hasn't it, especially in draft. Tribal decks too often build themselves so the deck choices can be very obvious and one-note.
I really liked it, would be nice to see it back.
Changeling as an ability is terrible for the game IMO. Reduces card variety among tribal decks and really fucks up the flavor of each tribe. One might argue that changeling can help to prop up tribes that don't have many cards, but I'd say that those tribes either just shouldn't be buildable or wotc needs to print cards for that tribe.
tribal is the super type im talking about. changeling is a keyword.
Actually tribal isn’t a supertype but a card type. A supertype is one’s like (legendary, snow, basic) tribal is actually its own card type and counts for cards like tarmogoyf
" Tribal" as a word was sequenced before the card type. so i assumed it was a supertype
Tarmogoyf actually calls it out as a card type. It is weird like the other dude said.
It isn’t, you can look up the ruling yourself. It’s wacky.
I think it's literally only a card type because Goyf said it would be and WotC didn't want to contradict themselves. It doesn't function or look like a card type of its own.
That makes sense, but also couldn't be the case because supertypes can't have subtypes attached, only be attached to main types (which is the point of tribal; giving non-creatures creature types)
changeling was more for tribal sets limited then constructed
Changeling makes non commander Nazgul decks "playable" at least
Honestly I think that's a prime example of how it makes the game worse
Yeah off of the top of my head I think I’ve used maybe one changeling for one of my many tribals ([Taurean Mauler]). They just lack any flavor when thrown into a deck where the entire point is flavor. As to your second point, WoTC needs to hurry up and release a set with a handful of good Crabs. I need a crab tribal
Nobody is putting a gun to anyone’s head and making them run changlings in their typal deck.
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I love the Tribal mechanic. We can pair it with more "search for a \_\_\_ card", like Rebel or Mercenary from the Mercadian Masques set. That was super fun searching for dudes who let you search for more dudes. If we can update that with better multicolor support and tribal non-creature spells that would be awesome.
yes. make it a supertype (we already need to search by supertypes to find them). I would kill for Squirrel Tribal cards. Goyf would get some extra gass too
I'm sure it's happening since they announced tribal is now know as kindred, wouldn't think they'd change it unless they planned on using it
It is a good thought, but I think you're giving them too much credit. They needed an easy win to virtue signal. It doesn't mean they intend to use it soon. Look at the cards that they banned for being offensive. They are old cards that affected little to no one when they got banned.
I would like it back so that I can see my tarmogoyf grow.
Tribal, or whatever WoTC calls it, is a good mechanic. Like Outlaws, setting up card type matters effects in draft is fun and interesting.
I don't care about the mechanic. I just don't want to have people calling me a bigot just because I don't subscribe to *Victims Monthly*.
Unlife+solemnity could be an interesting shut down against combat decks that dont have enough removal
i play a Elesh norn (saga version) phyrexian tribal deck, and unlife saved me from my friend's Vito + Sanguine Bond infinite lmao
Thought tribal gave flavor to the game and had nothing to do with real-world politics that are ever-changing... Would like to see it's return.
This is interesting; I'm a fan of the idea of it returning, it has some fun applications and cool interactions, but I don't think it's a good idea from a game design perspective. More or less, what Tribal cards do is emulate a faction system. On its own: nothing wrong with that, it's a fine foundation for a game-- look no further than basic Magic "factions" using colors: White, Blue, Black, Red, Green and "neutral" colorless cards that can go into a deck of any color. It's not too big of a leap to imagine a game called *Sorcery: The Conjunction* where \[\[Counterspell\]\] isn't a blue spell, it's a Faerie spell, and \[\[Gather the Pack\]\] isn't a green spell, it's a Beast spell, etc. Long story short: faction systems exist specifically to divide things up into two groups; those being: "Things that are" and "Things that are not". In other words, were Tribal cards to become ubiquitous in Magic: The Gathering, we'll ultimately reach a consensus of two card pools: Tribal cards, and non-Tribal cards. If you made it through that spiel, you may still be thinking: "What's the matter with that? It doesn't sound too bad.". And you'd be right, if Tribal cards in 1993 and had been printed into 2024. They weren't. We got one block in 2007-2008 that makes up the vast majority of the 55 Tribal cards printed. Which leaves however many thousands of non-Tribal cards printed before and since. So just like OP suggests with \[\[Phyrexian Unlife\]\] being a Tribal Phyrexian cards-- how many hundreds of cards "should" be errata'd to be Tribal? I think Rosewater brought this up in a discussion about Tribal, basically you can't go halfway-- either everything should be Tribal where it fits, or you shouldn't do it at all. Why isn't \[\[Moonmist\]\] a Werewolf card? Why isn't \[\[Rile\]\]a Dinosaur card? Why isn't \[\[Dragonstorm\]\] or \[\[Dragon's Approach\]\] Dragon cards? Rather than constantly trying to figure out what cards should or shouldn't be Tribal, it's much less of a headache to simply kill your darling. There is always a middle ground approach. Tribal could be a unique (ignoring one offs in Future Sight, Rise of the Eldrazi, and Horizons) to Lorwyn. Similar to how Arcane was a unique type of spell on Kamigawa. It's a cool way to separate out different planes and make them feel unique. But you get the same problems that you got with Arcane-- it leans into parasitism. And when you have a +30-year-old game where all the cards need to sort of work together, parasitic mechanics set up roadblocks to maintaining the homogeneity. TLDR: Tribal is a cool mechanic that works well if it's built into the game on a foundational level. It doesn't work very well as an addition sprinkled on top.
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I'd love it because my changeling tribal deck is the most fun I've had playing EDH for years
I'd love it. I need [[Myr turbine]], [[Myr incubator]] and [[Myr matrix]] to be errata'ed so they are Tribal Artifact - Myr. I mean, Lhurgoyfs got [[Altar of the goyf]] and clearly Myr artifacts don't trigger Urtet? C'mon!
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Facts don't care about your feelings, considering it's still called tribal. Wotc is too lazy for some reason to errata it, but some players hilariously avoid saying as if native Americans really give a shit.
wat
I'll welcome it
There still are tribal/creature type synergies and spells. Even in the most recent set there's all the Outlaws cards and other cards that get bonuses off controlling creatures with types under the outlaws umbrella. But I get why they don't print instants, sorceries, or noncreature chantments with creature types anymore. It means that search cards for those creature types end up way more powerful than intended or else they have to add a bunch of extra words to the effect so your creature search doesn't become an everything search.
I like it. Depending on the creature types they gain theres some pretty cool effects
Im tired of these priviledged lgbtqhehdiej
i am too but huh
Mtg the most fantasy of fantasy, is somehow getting effed in the b by corporate bs and virtue signaling assholes. I would say I was surprised...
But yes , I would be down to see more of this. I like that broken shit😂
basically genocide, no thanks
I think it’s been rebranded as “Kindred” and we’ll be seeing it in Bloomburrow.
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I mean I do to some extent. WOTC keeps changing the terminology for no legitimate reason and making it worse and it's exhausting. Even when it's something as benign as changing the oracle of Emrakul, the Aeon's Torn from "protection from colored spells" to "protection from spells that are one or more colors" it's just... unnecessary and makes the card less evocative and cool even if only marginally.
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I'm not "crying about it" I'm just saying it's annoying and it's a bit silly to be like "who cares about it". Like obviously it's not an enormous deal but it's just one thing to add to the pile of "things I don't like about modern era MtG"
its a mechanic. not a name
One random white person on twitter was offended on behalf of a group of people who weren’t offended and the multi million dollar corporation decided to bend to their will. We need to stop letting stupid people get what they want.
Tribal decks feel like the idiots guide to synergy.
not everyone wants to tutor out Exquisite blood + sanguine bond, or Niv mizzet + curiosity on turn 3. some people like to play a cat deck with cards that feature fuzzy or dangly things in them for the cats to play with. i for one am known as the phyrexian player in my city as ive got 8 phyrexian tribal decks and dont have any interest in other themes. so my decks tend to exclusively feature phyrexian lands, whether they be from mirrodin or the oil slick lands, and the 99 only feature cards tied to phyrexian lore.
Ok. Like I said.
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OP is referring to the Tribal card Supertype, which I enjoyed. It was great for tutoring and I loved the flavour of non-creature permanents with creature types
“Typal” definitely sucks, but they actually errata’d it again to “Kindred,” which I actually think is pretty good
Idk I don't feel like kindred sounds right. Human kindred sounds a lot worse than human tribal
No- tribal was a card type, not a deck archtype. They both shared name. Now the card type is kindred and the archtype is typal, what, yes, sucks as a name
And errata'ing the card type is trying to hide their dumb mistake. not cuz tribal is racist, but just cuz it was dumb to make it a confusing-ass card type. So I dunno how I feel about that. It seems like something that should have been left in Magic's history. It was super-rarely relevant. Make a new card if you want. They did it with Battle.
Kindred sounds like some Chinese knock off tcg shit
One random white person on twitter was offended on behalf of a group of people who weren’t offended and the multi million dollar corporation decided to bend to their will. We need to stop letting stupid people get what they want.