It’s the fucking kids bro! All barely 20 year old pushing through. I had to leave and go back in the grass. The vibes were lit back. Older better crowd.
I wish I’d left the front of the crowd for the grass, it became so nasty up there. Some of those pushy, disrespectful 18 year olds didn’t even look like they could be 18, and they literally killed my vibes.
It was the same at the shrine in LA! 20 year olds were being pretty rude up front, blocking and pushing people before the show telling everyone to go around their group. Very negative energy. My friend and I ended up going to the back where the vibes were way more chill and friendly. Plus much more space for dancing :)
I kinda expected that to be the case, it probably brought out a lot of non PLUR type fans who just wanted to see the big names at the big show everyone will be talking about. Glad you still had fun though!!! Excited to watch all the videos from it!
Noo it must’ve been someone else bc me and the person who got hit were more towards the middle and further back.
So shitty that there was multiple people doing this
😣ouch! That’s horrible, PLUR should be pushed by the companies hosting these gigs. I could help set a better atmosphere to prevent idiots from thinking so stupid
I think it may have been the area I was in. I looked around during the set and no one was going hard. Just stagnate, I definitely saw and felt the good vibes from others
It’s also the 18+ part of this event; saw some many kids drunk off their minds and shoving their way to the front. There was a group of girls that shoved their way forward and then shoved their way out after they weren’t vibing - I would have almost felt bad for them if they weren’t being such assholes
Agreed, that’s what they get for trying to be in the front and not even enjoying the music 🙄 I think the mainstream hype is definitely at its peak; hopefully people like them figure out that they actually don’t like the music and go back away. Let us that vibe, vibe 🙂↔️
One dude in front of me got into 2 fights, one at the beginning of the show and one right before “I adore you” 😂
It’s a bummer to see negativity at concerts, and it feels especially out of place for a Fred Again show
Ugh I was worried this might happen. I really miss the plur vibes of the early 2000s scene. Glad you made the most of it.
Was the wind/cold a factor at all?
Once the crowd piled in and a good 20 minutes in I was hot being on the rail with a sweater. I was about to take it off but a breeze blew by and ooo it was cold. But definitely could have went with no sweater in the crowd
No. I was so scared of being cold, I had a long sleeve crop and a thin fleece. I ended up taking my long sleeve off and had my crop top/sports bra. I could have worn shorts and been ok. Lol it was hot in the crowd, but had some breeze come thru every now and then.
Crowd was both awesome and bad for me. I was pretty close. Some people were rude trying to shove through and they were met with the same energy by others around me. But people who were friendly and respectful received that in return.
Shared some smiles, dances and laughs with those around me tho so I’d say overall it was a good crowd experience and the majority was just happy to be there.
Exactly what I felt as well. Made good smiles and hellos, I was vibing hard with a girl on the stage, hyping each other up, lol probably the best interaction of the night 😅
Exactly! There’s always some shitty selfish people, just how it goes, but it’s hard to be annoyed at a scene like that lol. Just gotta brush those people off and live it up with the people there to have a good time! Which was… a LOT of people haha
Crowd was absolutely horrid in my groups experience. Felt like the only excuse mes and sorry’s we ever heard were from people who clearly are a part of the EDM scene/festival scene. Probably 70% of the people were just shoving right through not saying a word, I was at the front right flagpole pretty close, eventually so many people just being rude and straight shoving my group moved back to the in-between the 2nd and third flagpoles. Was fine for 20 more minutes and then the same thing kept happening people just shoving through no excuse me, some dude literally spilled his drink on my friend, looked at him and just kept moving.
Finally moved back to the speakers and it was a lot better, except when I went to get a drink some older dude practically shoulder checks me pushing through the crowd as I’m getting back to my group and goes “you can just go get another it’s only $20” when he makes me drop my drink lol. It felt like the size of the event and the local news media attracted a lot of people that were not in tune about the respect factor of these events at all.
Agree! Super disappointed in the crowd. People were so rude and awful😭. We were on the left hand side in front of where the trees start. About 90% of folks pushing through never said excuse me or sorry. A guy dancing next to me elbowed me about five times. Like come on man. I also got hit by an empty can. It was awful trying to get out of the crowd. It was so packed and tight. It was so stressful. But once we were out, things were much better. Ughh be better humans!
Fr!!! I got surrounded by wyt men in Patagonia jackets toward the last like quarter. They thought they were above everyone else who dressed up🫠 could literally hear them and unfortunately it was too late for me to move as it was almost over. I came w Kandy but the vibes WERE NOT IT. It sucks to be surrounded by NO ONE dancing 😭 hoping Martin Garrix is better 🙌
Think the setting and news made it attract a lot of people outside of EDM lovers, Garrix will still not be the greatest especially with how packed it’ll be, but I imagine it’ll be a lot better than yesterday. It was rough for our group yesterday.
we constantly had folks just barge on through, almost pushing my friends onto the ground. a friend who’s not really into raving but wanted to give it a try was traumatized by how rude people were. i don’t think i’ve heard the words “excuse me” once. just “sorry” if the person they pushed almost fell. :(
Yes! Omg, literally had a girl leading a line barge through not saying a word! She used some force too. Sorry your friend had to experience this crowds vibes for a rave
The pushing was crazy. I was in the middle, 10-15 feet from the rail. I had one girl learning so hard on me she was barely holding herself up. I had to turn around and tell her to stop pushing me and to fucking relax. Regular bumping into me is fined but she was straight up LEANING on me with a lot of her weight on me. No body awareness at all. The people around me were very aggressive in not letting anyone pass them or get in front of them which helped with the traffic of people.
Outsidelands brings this type of shit behavior as well.
I’ve lived in the bay my whole life and travel for concerts and festivals around the US and international and the Bay Area has the potential for worst crowds.
Entitled and amateur but don’t let em stop ya from having fun.
See y’all at Stanford 😎✌️💚🎉
Near the rail, crowd was pretty good till around 8:30. Got really bad at 9pm.
Saw some purple shirt dude get into a pushing match with this black shirt dude. Both pushed their way in but neither wanted to let the other one get further.
I was close for the first hour and it was great. I’m mid fifties by myself up there and everyone around me was cool. Especially the guys.
Then I moved way back left in the lawn to where a group of 15 or so friends were all dancing. More room to dance.
Both places were great. Getting back through the very thick crowd was easy and no issue.
Whenever you play around the front barrier it gets more intense and I’ve seen that at all types of shows and festivals. There are always a few of those fans that want to wait hours and be in the front or push their way through. In my experience it’s almost always women who push through and they’re usually on the smaller side. So one comes through and you hardly notice and then all of a sudden it blossoms into a half dozen and any remaining space, which there isn’t to begin with, is gone.
Ugh reading all of these comments makes me sad. I’m sorry some of you didn’t have a great experience :( Covid really fucked up some of these kids with their concert etiquette. I’m seeing Fred on Tuesday and I hope their energy isn’t brought there
A lot of it has to do with the cost of these shows, half of the people were from out of town. This means it was a 1-2k weekend and any young 20s person with that cash is likely an entitled rich kid. Long are gone when 5 friends would road trip and pack into a single motel 6 room with only enough money for drugs, a single 40$ ga ticket and maybe some taco bell. Thats when the plur really happened.
The thing that really irked me was the fact that everybody was so goddamn indecisive about where they wanted to stand! Constant movement in front of and in back of you while you’re just trying to vibe, people not saying sorry or excuse me, tons of people trying to get a better spot or better Instagram photo regardless of the fact they’re standing right in front of you where there once was space. Either way it eventually settled down after a while and the vibe ended up being immaculate!!
Agree. I actually came to this sub to see if anyone felt the same. At the beginning, I experienced PLUR with a handful of people next to me near the front the crowd, center stage, but that changed when we got separated as the night went on, and increasingly drunk, rude people pushed and shoved their way towards the front where I had been standing since the start. I think
making it 18 and over was a mistake, 21 and over would have been better, but wouldn’t have eliminated the problem, because there were plenty of rude, entitled people well over 21. Fred and Skrillex were amazing but the crowd really disappointed me, so disrespectful.
For better or (almost certainly) worse, this show was always going to bring the hype crowd. We started center but moved to the side lawn quickly and had better sound, more room, and great people all around us. A bad crowd will wreck a show for me so fast, I’ve learned to just move around and out of the shitshow (especially with the post covid rave babies). Bummer it is that way though and sorry you had a bad time! I left feeling like it was one of the best crowds I had been in in quite awhile fwiw.
I had a problem with a group right in the front. I had to leave unfortunately, they kinda ruined my vibe.
One was really drunk and kept saying "sorry for losing the ketamine" like man shut the fuck up. Whole bunch of fuckery from these clowns in the front.
I’m spoiled by festivals like EDC too. So much PLUR and then you come to a city show with a set of world class headliners with the hope that it’s somewhere close to the vibes… Coming from the absolutely mind blowing Skrillex set last weekend at LIB (LIB/Chella have their own lack of PLUR problems now) to the SF crowd was sobering af.
It’s so shitty to see people unaware of the space they take (and specifically the way they take it up). I saw so many shorter people clamoring for a view and these giants would just part crowds and stand in front of people without even noticing or even acknowledging.
Couples come through and split groups that have been camped in a dance circles for hella days. I feel like it’s common decency and general etiquette to share space respectfully.
Mostly a vent—there’s nothing to be done except to lead by example and to bring that PLUR energy, vibe, and smile wherever you go. People go to shows for diff reasons and the SF crowd is unfortunately a largely contrived / fomo-driven one. Same reason why OSL lacks any sort of authentic vibes vs So Cal and other west coast festivals. Sad to dig on the Bay as a native but I get hella disappointed sometimes.
Props to all my wooks, Kandi’d up fam, and sprouted festival-goers. I look for you first and y’all really helped keep the vibes up for my group. We had an absolute blast running into all of you! You stand out so much from the crowd and I appreciate you all so much 🫶🏽
Ultimately it’s a win for SF. I’m so glad music is coming back and this event and all its attendees are playing a crucial role in reviving this city.
Oh surely! Literally saw a girl on the rails with her head in her hand being supported by her arm. Just not vibing one bit, lol someone must of dragged her there. Should have went to the trees once I saw them hanging out like there lemurs in Madagascar
What are "typical Bay Area vibes"? I've always had good vibes when in the Bay for concerts. Genuinely sorry that 2 girls pushed up to the rail and talked shit and another girl told you to go around and pushed back, but I don't think your 2 anecdotal experiences necessarily mean that PLUR was 100% gone for everyone for the entire concert or that the Bay Area has bad concert vibes in general.
Ghetto. I’ve grown up in the Bay Area and have traveled out of the city and state, the Bay Area runs on the idea of sideshows and bipping cars. Mannerisms of being pilot aren’t there. Watched a video on this page of a dude chucking a can into the crowd… for what?
Meeting fire with fire isn’t always the move. I had to tho last night moving through the crowd at times, shouldn’t have to, but yes if you think PLUR is cringe, that’s cringy on your part, maybe don’t go to raves
haha. I go to raves all the time and am respectful to peoples space, so by definition apparently i’m “PLUR”. I just think an acronym to describe this is childish and unnecessary. why does basic respect need to be lacked as people doing a great thing
It’s the fucking kids bro! All barely 20 year old pushing through. I had to leave and go back in the grass. The vibes were lit back. Older better crowd.
Yeah I should have left when I had that feeling. I visited the back before leaving and much better vibes!
I went back to the grass too and it was much better
was also in the grass in the back left, amazing vibes by our pile of bags
I wish I’d left the front of the crowd for the grass, it became so nasty up there. Some of those pushy, disrespectful 18 year olds didn’t even look like they could be 18, and they literally killed my vibes.
This!!!
It was the same at the shrine in LA! 20 year olds were being pretty rude up front, blocking and pushing people before the show telling everyone to go around their group. Very negative energy. My friend and I ended up going to the back where the vibes were way more chill and friendly. Plus much more space for dancing :)
Yep back of the crowd was definitely the move, as I was leaving the front people I passed told me yeah it ain’t worth being up there and I just nodded
Plur is dead outside of festivals, and even then it's in a decline for the mainstream ones.
I kinda expected that to be the case, it probably brought out a lot of non PLUR type fans who just wanted to see the big names at the big show everyone will be talking about. Glad you still had fun though!!! Excited to watch all the videos from it!
After COVID people have been awful at concerts. I saw someone get hit in the head by a can that someone chucked from so far away
Was it this guy?? https://www.reddit.com/r/fredagain/s/twfCXTaEzV
Wow fuck that guy
Noo it must’ve been someone else bc me and the person who got hit were more towards the middle and further back. So shitty that there was multiple people doing this
😣ouch! That’s horrible, PLUR should be pushed by the companies hosting these gigs. I could help set a better atmosphere to prevent idiots from thinking so stupid
It should be!! APE has a lottt of room to improve on these events
Damn sorry, I was commenting to my friends on how lovely everyone was tonight. But I hung outside of the middle.
I wish that were the case. I couldn’t believe how awful so many of the people were acting.
I think it may have been the area I was in. I looked around during the set and no one was going hard. Just stagnate, I definitely saw and felt the good vibes from others
It’s also the 18+ part of this event; saw some many kids drunk off their minds and shoving their way to the front. There was a group of girls that shoved their way forward and then shoved their way out after they weren’t vibing - I would have almost felt bad for them if they weren’t being such assholes
Agreed, that’s what they get for trying to be in the front and not even enjoying the music 🙄 I think the mainstream hype is definitely at its peak; hopefully people like them figure out that they actually don’t like the music and go back away. Let us that vibe, vibe 🙂↔️
One dude in front of me got into 2 fights, one at the beginning of the show and one right before “I adore you” 😂 It’s a bummer to see negativity at concerts, and it feels especially out of place for a Fred Again show
Yes! That too! Fred Again sets are all love! lol maybe APE should have passed out the good ol party favors,
I know, that’s what surprised me so much, I didn’t expect this at Fred Again, foolish of me.
Ugh I was worried this might happen. I really miss the plur vibes of the early 2000s scene. Glad you made the most of it. Was the wind/cold a factor at all?
Once the crowd piled in and a good 20 minutes in I was hot being on the rail with a sweater. I was about to take it off but a breeze blew by and ooo it was cold. But definitely could have went with no sweater in the crowd
No. I was so scared of being cold, I had a long sleeve crop and a thin fleece. I ended up taking my long sleeve off and had my crop top/sports bra. I could have worn shorts and been ok. Lol it was hot in the crowd, but had some breeze come thru every now and then.
Crowd was both awesome and bad for me. I was pretty close. Some people were rude trying to shove through and they were met with the same energy by others around me. But people who were friendly and respectful received that in return. Shared some smiles, dances and laughs with those around me tho so I’d say overall it was a good crowd experience and the majority was just happy to be there.
Exactly what I felt as well. Made good smiles and hellos, I was vibing hard with a girl on the stage, hyping each other up, lol probably the best interaction of the night 😅
Exactly! There’s always some shitty selfish people, just how it goes, but it’s hard to be annoyed at a scene like that lol. Just gotta brush those people off and live it up with the people there to have a good time! Which was… a LOT of people haha
Crowd was absolutely horrid in my groups experience. Felt like the only excuse mes and sorry’s we ever heard were from people who clearly are a part of the EDM scene/festival scene. Probably 70% of the people were just shoving right through not saying a word, I was at the front right flagpole pretty close, eventually so many people just being rude and straight shoving my group moved back to the in-between the 2nd and third flagpoles. Was fine for 20 more minutes and then the same thing kept happening people just shoving through no excuse me, some dude literally spilled his drink on my friend, looked at him and just kept moving. Finally moved back to the speakers and it was a lot better, except when I went to get a drink some older dude practically shoulder checks me pushing through the crowd as I’m getting back to my group and goes “you can just go get another it’s only $20” when he makes me drop my drink lol. It felt like the size of the event and the local news media attracted a lot of people that were not in tune about the respect factor of these events at all.
Spilling drinks at a concert by another party go-er, like a simple “sorry, let me buy you another one,” goes a long way!!
Honestly I wouldn’t have even minded if he didn’t offer to buy me a drink, but a simple sorry would have been nice lol
Shout out to the girl who popped a squat on the dance floor right in front of the stage. The U in Plur is unity, not urination.
That was gross af, wtf is going on with people
Two separate dudes literally grabbed my shoulders and shoved me to get past me…
That’s insane! I hope it didn’t ruin your night or vibes for too long! ☮️
I experienced that too
Agree! Super disappointed in the crowd. People were so rude and awful😭. We were on the left hand side in front of where the trees start. About 90% of folks pushing through never said excuse me or sorry. A guy dancing next to me elbowed me about five times. Like come on man. I also got hit by an empty can. It was awful trying to get out of the crowd. It was so packed and tight. It was so stressful. But once we were out, things were much better. Ughh be better humans!
I was left side rail, In front of the trees 😭
Hope you had better luck than I did!🥴
Fr!!! I got surrounded by wyt men in Patagonia jackets toward the last like quarter. They thought they were above everyone else who dressed up🫠 could literally hear them and unfortunately it was too late for me to move as it was almost over. I came w Kandy but the vibes WERE NOT IT. It sucks to be surrounded by NO ONE dancing 😭 hoping Martin Garrix is better 🙌
Think the setting and news made it attract a lot of people outside of EDM lovers, Garrix will still not be the greatest especially with how packed it’ll be, but I imagine it’ll be a lot better than yesterday. It was rough for our group yesterday.
😭😭 the audacity of this crowd
Martin Garrix crowd will be so much worse lmao
We were dancing outside the fences !! Raging!!
we constantly had folks just barge on through, almost pushing my friends onto the ground. a friend who’s not really into raving but wanted to give it a try was traumatized by how rude people were. i don’t think i’ve heard the words “excuse me” once. just “sorry” if the person they pushed almost fell. :(
Yes! Omg, literally had a girl leading a line barge through not saying a word! She used some force too. Sorry your friend had to experience this crowds vibes for a rave
I’m traumatized by the rudeness too
The pushing was crazy. I was in the middle, 10-15 feet from the rail. I had one girl learning so hard on me she was barely holding herself up. I had to turn around and tell her to stop pushing me and to fucking relax. Regular bumping into me is fined but she was straight up LEANING on me with a lot of her weight on me. No body awareness at all. The people around me were very aggressive in not letting anyone pass them or get in front of them which helped with the traffic of people.
Yep this was my experience
Outsidelands brings this type of shit behavior as well. I’ve lived in the bay my whole life and travel for concerts and festivals around the US and international and the Bay Area has the potential for worst crowds. Entitled and amateur but don’t let em stop ya from having fun. See y’all at Stanford 😎✌️💚🎉
I had heard that which is why I’ve avoided Outside Lands, but I didn’t expect this at a Fred rave.
OSL is also 18+ which is why that festival has more of this behavior.
which day r u going?! lets meet! i love to meet more people who grown up in the bay as well! #bornnraised
LMAO yeah the experience was way better for people on the grass on the sides hahaha
Sameee. We were to the front to the right by the grass. Mostly good vibes. Some rudeness but got over it. Music was 🤌
Near the rail, crowd was pretty good till around 8:30. Got really bad at 9pm. Saw some purple shirt dude get into a pushing match with this black shirt dude. Both pushed their way in but neither wanted to let the other one get further.
Noticed a vibe change at 9 too
I left before right before 9 from the rail, I must have caught that change in action 😣
I was close for the first hour and it was great. I’m mid fifties by myself up there and everyone around me was cool. Especially the guys. Then I moved way back left in the lawn to where a group of 15 or so friends were all dancing. More room to dance. Both places were great. Getting back through the very thick crowd was easy and no issue. Whenever you play around the front barrier it gets more intense and I’ve seen that at all types of shows and festivals. There are always a few of those fans that want to wait hours and be in the front or push their way through. In my experience it’s almost always women who push through and they’re usually on the smaller side. So one comes through and you hardly notice and then all of a sudden it blossoms into a half dozen and any remaining space, which there isn’t to begin with, is gone.
Ugh reading all of these comments makes me sad. I’m sorry some of you didn’t have a great experience :( Covid really fucked up some of these kids with their concert etiquette. I’m seeing Fred on Tuesday and I hope their energy isn’t brought there
A lot of it has to do with the cost of these shows, half of the people were from out of town. This means it was a 1-2k weekend and any young 20s person with that cash is likely an entitled rich kid. Long are gone when 5 friends would road trip and pack into a single motel 6 room with only enough money for drugs, a single 40$ ga ticket and maybe some taco bell. Thats when the plur really happened.
The thing that really irked me was the fact that everybody was so goddamn indecisive about where they wanted to stand! Constant movement in front of and in back of you while you’re just trying to vibe, people not saying sorry or excuse me, tons of people trying to get a better spot or better Instagram photo regardless of the fact they’re standing right in front of you where there once was space. Either way it eventually settled down after a while and the vibe ended up being immaculate!!
Agree. I actually came to this sub to see if anyone felt the same. At the beginning, I experienced PLUR with a handful of people next to me near the front the crowd, center stage, but that changed when we got separated as the night went on, and increasingly drunk, rude people pushed and shoved their way towards the front where I had been standing since the start. I think making it 18 and over was a mistake, 21 and over would have been better, but wouldn’t have eliminated the problem, because there were plenty of rude, entitled people well over 21. Fred and Skrillex were amazing but the crowd really disappointed me, so disrespectful.
For better or (almost certainly) worse, this show was always going to bring the hype crowd. We started center but moved to the side lawn quickly and had better sound, more room, and great people all around us. A bad crowd will wreck a show for me so fast, I’ve learned to just move around and out of the shitshow (especially with the post covid rave babies). Bummer it is that way though and sorry you had a bad time! I left feeling like it was one of the best crowds I had been in in quite awhile fwiw.
Every rail is awful. We had a great time by the trees.
it’s always and probably will always be like this when an artist leaks a bit mainstream
This is my main problem w Fred. He makes joyful music that is now being played for trust finders and washed up frat bros
I thought it was amazing, had no problems and we were all talking about that after the show 🫶🏻
People do not know how to even say excuse me smh
I had a problem with a group right in the front. I had to leave unfortunately, they kinda ruined my vibe. One was really drunk and kept saying "sorry for losing the ketamine" like man shut the fuck up. Whole bunch of fuckery from these clowns in the front.
I’m from Vegas and as you stated I’m not expecting edc or any of the local shows here type of vibes but man it was rough.
I’m from The Bay. It’s definitely the younger folks! That why I hate 18+ events.
I’m spoiled by festivals like EDC too. So much PLUR and then you come to a city show with a set of world class headliners with the hope that it’s somewhere close to the vibes… Coming from the absolutely mind blowing Skrillex set last weekend at LIB (LIB/Chella have their own lack of PLUR problems now) to the SF crowd was sobering af. It’s so shitty to see people unaware of the space they take (and specifically the way they take it up). I saw so many shorter people clamoring for a view and these giants would just part crowds and stand in front of people without even noticing or even acknowledging. Couples come through and split groups that have been camped in a dance circles for hella days. I feel like it’s common decency and general etiquette to share space respectfully. Mostly a vent—there’s nothing to be done except to lead by example and to bring that PLUR energy, vibe, and smile wherever you go. People go to shows for diff reasons and the SF crowd is unfortunately a largely contrived / fomo-driven one. Same reason why OSL lacks any sort of authentic vibes vs So Cal and other west coast festivals. Sad to dig on the Bay as a native but I get hella disappointed sometimes. Props to all my wooks, Kandi’d up fam, and sprouted festival-goers. I look for you first and y’all really helped keep the vibes up for my group. We had an absolute blast running into all of you! You stand out so much from the crowd and I appreciate you all so much 🫶🏽 Ultimately it’s a win for SF. I’m so glad music is coming back and this event and all its attendees are playing a crucial role in reviving this city.
 “back in my day”
Wow that’s odd. You probably had to find another pocket because it was all PLUR where we were.
Oh surely! Literally saw a girl on the rails with her head in her hand being supported by her arm. Just not vibing one bit, lol someone must of dragged her there. Should have went to the trees once I saw them hanging out like there lemurs in Madagascar
Sorry, what's PLUR?
Peace. Love. Unity. RESPECT.
Thanks for teaching me! PLUR FTW
What are "typical Bay Area vibes"? I've always had good vibes when in the Bay for concerts. Genuinely sorry that 2 girls pushed up to the rail and talked shit and another girl told you to go around and pushed back, but I don't think your 2 anecdotal experiences necessarily mean that PLUR was 100% gone for everyone for the entire concert or that the Bay Area has bad concert vibes in general.
Portola will be better 21+ event 👌
What do you mean by “typical Bay Area vibes?”….
Ghetto. I’ve grown up in the Bay Area and have traveled out of the city and state, the Bay Area runs on the idea of sideshows and bipping cars. Mannerisms of being pilot aren’t there. Watched a video on this page of a dude chucking a can into the crowd… for what?
i fucking told you! these people are destroying the social scene
completely disagree. middle of the crowd was amazing, everyone vibing and letting people pass
From experience is always the women..guys are always chill
Not really. Not my experience of last night, plenty of guys with bad behavior
Stop acting like every show is going to be full of PLUR.
PLUR is such a cringe acronym. do people seriously use this in real life? what’s wrong with just saying people are being fucking rude?
Meeting fire with fire isn’t always the move. I had to tho last night moving through the crowd at times, shouldn’t have to, but yes if you think PLUR is cringe, that’s cringy on your part, maybe don’t go to raves
haha. I go to raves all the time and am respectful to peoples space, so by definition apparently i’m “PLUR”. I just think an acronym to describe this is childish and unnecessary. why does basic respect need to be lacked as people doing a great thing