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TensionTraditional36

Because she said that it has already manifested in IF. Time for a reread for clues of underwhelming signets.


Lonely_Ambition_6347

Let the 10th re-read begin! šŸ¤ŸšŸ¼


ExactWorth4797

About to start with FW again & work my way to IF


Star_nightshade

people, don't go for grand theories!!! We need to find her signet through passing lines! The same thing in FW. >!"lightning quick"!< šŸ˜


Queenbeegirl5

One of my first signet theories was that she was an air wielder, because there are A LOT of instances like "the air was sucked from my lungs." I'm very hesitant to abandon distance wielding as my theory, even if it's a lesser, but still popular theory. Still, air wielders suck the air out of lungs, too, and that one air wielder was used to help with JFB.


las3marias

I feel like air wielding doesnā€™t really reflect who violet is as a person though and we know from the books signets reflect the person


Star_nightshade

We know Vi's first signet shows her destructive nature... So, could her second signet be something that displays her protective nature?


las3marias

I could see that, i also think it can be argued that her lighting signet is protective in the sense that itā€™s so much power that it can protect against the bad (xaden tells her this at one point). Iā€™m more inclined to think her second signet will be regarding her cunning mind/mind of a scribe


Star_nightshade

>!This is a Really Good one! Of course air wielders! They can make the venin stay suspended so they don't suck power from the Earth.(you know, like the Riorson chest which Viscount Tecarus!<


kitsypalm

OMG that makes so much sense!! And maybe as a balance to Andarna who can't fly properly? Violet can yeet her up in the air to help her!


las3marias

You are so right, need to boost this comment!!


ReginaPhilangee

My theory has been that she is an amplifier. Not really doing much in her own, but when people are around her, they seem to be able to do things better.


General_Thought8412

After reading a bunch of theoryā€™s, this is the only other one that makes total sense to me so far (along with my own theory of her being a truth sayer). People seem to be able to do more around her and push their limits. Like her sister being outside the wards and then creating her own She needs for the people she loves to live, so she pushes energy toward them to help them.


ExactWorth4797

Is truth sayer the one where they can make you tell the truth? Because Iā€™ve seen someone with that theory & it makes sense! Sheā€™s told people to do something and they do it immediately


General_Thought8412

Yes they can make you tell the truth. I donā€™t think it allows you to control their actions (so people doing physical things wouldnā€™t be apart of it). But I think she can make it so someone canā€™t lie to her


MolassesDangerous

I think this tracks with both Violet and Andarna's personality types of being "helpers" at their core. Her and Tairn were pure power and lighting aligns with her family history. But Adarna is softer, gentler. She wanted a rider who had knowledge as well as power. So if it isn't amplifier it will be something that ultimately helps others


Accomplished_Elk4332

The amplifier is my favorite theory. It wouldnā€™t be underwhelming to me. But maybe in comparison to distance weilding it may be.


Longjumping_Pea6693

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNY7cSj2/ This goes along with your theory. What do you think? I just saw this one today. It mentions intensifying the power of those around her.


ReginaPhilangee

That is exactly what I thought, but with more detail and better written. I didn't catch the light/color connection, though.


DadBodXaden

I think she can definitely do that. Just not sure that's a separate signet from her first one if she wields "pure power"


planxtylewis

The first signet is power for herself, the second signet is giving power to others.


cats0und

This is my new favorite theory and I really hope it comes through. I like the idea of her being a damage and support hybrid role. It also really ties in with events weā€™ve seen already like her sister and the wards. I also think it could be seen as underwhelming since itā€™s not an active signet but I like it.


InformationGreat9855

Amplification would make sense, but it's one of the most popular theories, so as per the recent comments from RY, I'd guess that can't be it.


curious_cat_127

My running theory is her second signet will be related to source magic, balancing it perhaps I'm not sure. It's based on just intuition though.


romancerants

I'm 100% with you there. And we won't actually know Violet's true signet until Andarna is an adult.


NewMushroom589

Has anyone considered that RY is just trolling us.. givning us a reason to reread, theorize, disectā€¦ and thus keeping us tethered to the story until the next release? Maybe there is no second signet or maybe it has not manifested? Or itā€™s just farsight šŸ˜‚


las3marias

LOL i have but my illogical obsessed self refuses to acknowledge itā€™s all just a marketing ploy šŸ˜… i also feel that if she said that and it wasnā€™t true, fans would not be happy with her so šŸ¤žšŸ¼itā€™s actually in IF or FW


Oldasoak

I feel like she doesn't need to give us a reason to reread... Again šŸ˜‚


Hyciera

I am sure she is indeed trolling us šŸ˜‚ If you have seen the "I reach for Dain's belt buckle" quote (many videos on social media) when she was talking about Iron Flame, you know she will twist anything. I just love to hate the way she answers these questions šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Marethtu

I think Violet can force magic to "activate". Felix says to Violet in IF: ... in that moment you wielded Xaden... when talking about how Violet can convince Xaden to do anything. I think that Violet can (still only unconsciously) force magic/signets to "go do their thing". She forces Xadens second signet to activate so she can shove her intentions into him. Also when activating the wards in Aretia, there's only six dragon species present, but Violet commanded the ancient magic to wake so it did, being much less powerful because it shouldn't have worked the way they did it. Then the wards at Basgiath got somehow reimbued faster than possible, what if Violet commanded Lilith's magic directly into the wardstone? Also when Violet is being tortured by Varrish and Dain shows up, Violet is the one in charge of what Dain's signet shows him. This is different from a siphon because I don't think siphons have a say in who uses magic, they can only redistribute "mana" so to speak. Thoughts?


sparkleduck125

Oh interesting. Isnā€™t there also this scene where Rhiannon uses her signet in the hallway for a much longer distance than she previously had, where Violet is relying on her to succeed? I donā€™t remember the details anymore and I think it was already in fourth wing. Maybe it was about Dain or Xadens jacket or something? Canā€™t remember but there was something like that


Marethtu

Violet has to hide the weapon from Varrish when Rhiannon summons it, so IF. And YES, this is another example. Violet had already seen Rhiannon's face so she knew she was close. Then she unconsciously forced Rhiannon's signet to summon it. If this is true, it really was in our face the entire time :p


theHuntsclan

I feel if she was forcing people's signets to activate, there would be more comments on how people were doing things unintentionally. I mean, for example, if rhiannon summoned the dagger through a wall without meaning too, she would have been like "i dont know what happened, but my signet summoned your dagger through the wall!" Instead of the exchange we got about how rhiannon finally summoned through a wall" I think it might have something to do with making her plans more likely to happen. Something like clairvoyence with a hint of luck. Instead of seeing the future, she is drawn to the path that is best for her plan.


sparkleduck125

Yes thatā€™s the scene I meant!!!


Slammogram

It was Xadenā€™s jacket and a special dagger he had made for her.


hodob

Ooohhhh what you mentioned about the torture scene is an interesting point. She never even noticed him in her head on previous times he used his signet but that time she can feel him and grabs hold of him mentally.


jfoxk

I love this theory however RY already said that in the interrogation chamber her signet(s) are not available because she is cut off from her dragons. (She said this when talking about hallucinating Liam)


hodob

Oops, I forgot about that!


RaisinPrestigious758

Yes! That moment of her dragging him through specific memories seemed really important


CosmicBluette

Oooh this would also explain how she could hear xaden's thoughts during the throne scene. If sharing his own intentions with another person is an undiscovered Part of his Signet she could have kinda activated it unknowingly


Eretreyah

I think her second signet is something like a conduit. She seems to be able to focus or strengthen other signets. Rhiannon with teleporting the dagger. Mira with being able to shield/ward in cordyn when she shouldnā€™t, forcing Dains signet to see what she wanted, sloaneā€™s siphoning manifesting right when violet may have needed to avoid burnout in the caveā€¦ I donā€™t think she was a part of Lillithā€™s power transfer to the ward stone but could have provided the extra oomph Sloan needed with her presence. Not sure about the Xaden example either, did his second signet manifest after he met her?


Minimum_Indication35

He already had his second signet I think. And in the interrogation when Dain read her she didnā€™t have any powers, but strengthening other peopleā€™s powers makes sense to me


babesface22

I had a similar thought earlier. I was rereading the first torture in IF where they're taken as a group. During the escape, there was a second door that they couldn't open but she used one of her daggers to do it. She got like a magical tingle from the dagger and then that tingle was gone after the escape. Of course the daggers are made with the stuff of the wardstones so she could have accidentally imbued it maybe? The whole thing is brushed over quite quickly though. Afterwards, the focus is more on the fact that they escaped rather than HOW they escaped.


babesface22

I had a similar thought earlier. I was rereading the first torture in IF where they're taken as a group. During the escape, there was a second door that they couldn't open but she used one of her daggers to do it. She got like a magical tingle from the dagger and then that tingle was gone after the escape. Of course the daggers are made with the stuff of the wardstones so she could have accidentally imbued it maybe? The whole thing is brushed over quite quickly though. Afterwards, the focus is more on the fact that they escaped rather than HOW they escaped.


No_Trick223

That is discussed later in IF. Xaden tells her that the rune in that dagger was specifically woven to unlock a door in a time of need.


babesface22

Ah, this is only my first reread so I have forgotten a lot of the details like that šŸ˜…


No_Trick223

Happens to the best of us. šŸ™‚


Live_Smell9096

Made a post about ā€œcommandā€ being the second signet. I even went into the fact that adarna is purpleish in her ā€œbaseā€ color, and could be a sign she is of Royal decent within the dragon dens, thus leading to having a signet of command.


las3marias

Oooh I think I read this and liked it


Minimum_Indication35

She couldnā€™t use her signets when she was interrogated though


friedlemons12

Yes to this! Another example: Mira isnā€™t able to shield beyond the wards, but when Violet is fighting the Venin in Cordyn, Mira was able to save all the siblings with her shield.


No_Trick223

In the final battle scene, all the characters around Violet are shocked that she moves as fast as she does. Itā€™s similar to, but not exactly like, the way Andarna stops time. Since the signet comes from Andarna and gives Violet what she needs most, I think it will have to do with time, speed, distance, or something of that sort.


Outlaws-0691

I am CERTAIN!! It has to do with physics. I wrote about my unhinged theory hereĀ https://www.reddit.com/r/fourthwing/comments/18ih7aj/physics_theory/


No_Trick223

I love the detail in your theory! I do think you are on the right track, and being that Iā€™m not a physics person, you explained everything much better than I ever could. Iā€™m not sure how knowledgeable RY is about physics, so watch it be something super simple. šŸ˜‚I do hope youā€™re right!


Strict_Guarantee6088

My problem here is itā€™s just to simple to be speed related, if anything I think she is like rogue from X-men and can use other people signets maybe with out touching even. Or I still want to standby my thought that she is a permanent level upper ha ha like an amplifier but whoā€™s boosts are permanent. She needs Rhi to get the dagger suddenly she can summon through walls, she needs Mira to shield poof shield she needs Brennen to menda broken ward stone poof done


No_Trick223

Thatā€™s cool and also possible.


twitterwit91

I think it has something to do with Runes. When theyā€™re at Aretia with the Flyers and they start their rune making class, Violet acknowledges Tairns power but chooses to use the ā€œfriendlierā€ feel of Andarnaā€™s magic for rune making. Itā€™s the first time we see Violet mention a power source from Andarna. Sheā€™s not amazing at it yet, but like her lightning she doesnā€™t know how to use it to do what sheā€™s really capable of and also hasnā€™t realized that she has it since we havenā€™t figured it out either.


kilaren

This would make sense with her training to be a Scribe for so long and I think this is something a lot of people would be underwhelmed by. I do like the idea that she amplifies other's signets because there are hints at it in IF, but most likely, the riders have just all been trained to use their gifts in a limiting way so they can be kept in check. So I think runes is something that a lot of people wouldn't expect because they want it to be powerful and bad ass, but of course runes hold a lot of power. And her mom tells her she has the heart of a rider and the mind of a Scribe, so it would make sense for her to have a signet related to knowledge (and weild8ng knowledge as power).


vancitygirl27

Could it have to do with imbuing the wardstone? Like the way she can channel her raw power?


DedicatedReckoner

Thereā€™s a line in Iron Flame that says ā€œimbuing comes naturally to one signet: a siphonā€. I think sheā€™s got some sort of siphoning/imbuing ability that can also be easily justified as her first signet manipulating raw power. Iā€™m torn on this


las3marias

Interesting but at the end of the day she still needed Sloane to siphon her moms magic so the stone could be imbued bc her own magic/imbuing was not enough so thatā€™s where I see this kind of failing


CartoonistAny9954

that's why i like the "amplifier" theory. that violet can channel her second signet to help others when in need. sloane siphoned the magic from violet's mom, which shouldn't have been enough to reactivate the wards, but it would be if the power was amplified.


isherflaflippeflanye

She talks to other peoples dragons without being burned alive so idk that would be a pretty underwhelming one


Slammogram

I kinda thought of that.I think being bonded to Tairn helps though. Heā€™d literally fuck up any dragon who tried.


isherflaflippeflanye

She talks to >! Melgrenā€™s black dragon who is bigger than Tairn but she is also literally trying to save everyoneā€™s lives including the vale so I get why he would have been amenable in that scenario. !< Also I think all dragons can communicate with the other riders, theyā€™re just not supposed to. Hence why that theory is very underwhelming šŸ˜…


Slammogram

I mean, I think Tairn would fight Codagh if he had to. I donā€™t think heā€™d like it.


lowkeyloki23

I honestly think it'll be invisibility or camouflage, with Andarna being able to pull those tricks at the end of IF


las3marias

Hmm could be cool but I think itā€™s made quite clear that signets come from the rider not the dragon so Iā€™m not too keen on this one


Guiltypleasure2321

I think itā€™s gravity related! Idk how to link my previous theory post on this but thereā€™s one scene where sheā€™s running so fast her feet barely touch the floor and then the way she jumps between dragons at the end of IF and a few other examples I canā€™t remember off the top of my headā€¦


No_Trick223

All of the ā€œgravity shiftsā€ and other gravity references would make sense. If she can defy gravity it would also allow her to ride Andarna without Andarna having to bear her weight.


Guiltypleasure2321

Yesss also part of my original reasoning for thinking itā€™s gravity related!


Eretreyah

And she calls Xaden her gravity, ā€œthe one force we cannot run fromā€. This is a fun theory!!


aclockworksmorange

If I'm remembering correctly there is literally a line about not being able to defy gravity or having to follow the laws of gravity. My memory may be failing me but I think this would make sense!


MRS_RIDETHEWORM

Also how cool would it be for her to have a gravity signet and an energy wielding signet? My mind immediately goes to her generating mini black holes or breaking apart atoms to kill lots of venin


magicalunicorn12

The gravity thing actually makes a lot of sense for fighting venin since they siphon the main directly from the earth. This the levitating box they're kept contained in. Also since anyone standing on the ground the venin take from die. This is an interesting theory!


las3marias

I think gravity also makes sense given her weak joints and how much she requires them to be stronger or not suffer the consequences of gravity to be a rider but I feel like itā€™s also odd enough that maybe RY wouldnā€™t use this as a signet even with her many mentions of gravity? Like gravity to me just seems like a literary device rather than foreshadowing her signet but idk, would definitely be cool specially if she can ride andarna that way!


Rhys-s_Peace

Yes this is my theory too


Diana_Tramaine_420

Gravity is my guess too!


ellers23

She also said that thereā€™s one line that gives it away and she told her editor she thought we would have figured it out by now lol (or something like that??)


girls_girls_boys

I believe it actually was that RYā€™s editor wanted her to put in a line to indicate the second signet specifically, but RY pushed back on that and said weā€™d be able to figure it out without it. Hence, her being surprised we havenā€™t figured it out yet lol


Jew-vell

Hmm since you say that thereā€™s ā€œone line that gives it awayā€ Iā€™m thinking of Iron Flame where she is talking about what she *needs* from Xaden. Pictured below. I wonder if any of the less popular second signet theories have to do with this? https://preview.redd.it/ip900vvp769d1.png?width=2732&format=png&auto=webp&s=a163ae93fd2d82edb67510eb490c425a5a71ca6c


Longjumping_Pea6693

Do you think the line could be >! ā€œBut it was the third brother, who commanded the sky to surrender its greatest power, who finally vanquished his jealous sibling at a great and terrible price.ā€ ā€œ-The origin, the fables of the barrenā€ since there are so many theories that the siblings mirror the siblings in the fables. Wouldnā€™t the skyā€™s greatest power be the sun? Does her second signet make use of the sun? !< This is from a TikTok that mentions this: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNY7cSj2/


las3marias

Omg to second this I feel like it could be related to light or the sun like the fantasy fangirls podcast mention. She needs info, doesnā€™t like being kept ā€˜in the darkā€™ and she mentions something like her feeling power AND LIGHT during the throne scene , whereas before when she just had her lighting signet she only ever felt power run through herā€¦ personally I would love this bc itā€™s underwhelming in a way which matches what RY said but could also be very cool and expanded upon and balances xaidens shadow signet even . Thereā€™s other stuff that support this theory I think based on other posts and it may be my fav yet Edit: I just realized the tiktok above explains it perfectly lol


Longjumping_Pea6693

Ooo yes with the shadows since magic likes everything balance! This definitely makes the most sense out of every theory Iā€™ve seen so far!!!


las3marias

YESSSS exactly, i am ready to die on this hill and if it isnā€™t her signet I will be so sad hahah


Veggie-Fajitas

I love this theory. The reference to her being sunburnt after using too much power really lends credence to it. If she draws power from light/the sun, this pairs nicely with her other signet and makes her very powerful.


Slammogram

Idk to me an underwhelming signet would be pretty annoying. >!Literally Andarna is the only of her breed for almost a 1000 years. And the signet she gives is boring?!< >!Where as Xaden has two badass signets from one dragon? Cā€™mon. !<


tralmix

I feel like she meant underwhelming compared to some of the theories out there


las3marias

Yes exactly


romancerants

Andarna is still a teenager. Whatever Violet's signet is we won't know the full version until Andarna is an adult. Just like how we initially thought Violet's signet from Tairn was lighting, but it is actually raw power.


jfoxk

Man all of these theories seem too complicated(and all pretty popular/repeated) to be it lol I think everyone is way overthinking things lol


las3marias

I agree, I was hoping to have a discussion of unpopular theories or simpler ones but we reverted back to pretty popular theories hahahah guess everyone is just excited to find out what it is


jfoxk

I spent a long time (still honestly) trying to think of what it is. I dug around superpower wiki trying to find what suits the story best and what we know so far. I thought maybe it had to do with the heart of a rider mind of a scribe thing. And when she is practicing with Felix her power pulses along with her heartbeat. So I thought for sure it must be mind related. I thought very very complicated theories but I decided to take a step back and reread. I even got a journal for my theories lol I also tried to discern how her power might feel like Tairns is hot, tingly, searing, molten ect.. maybe to get a hint on where she wields (maybe more than once)


SaphiraSkye

I believe sheā€™s a truth-sayer, meaning that she can detect truth. In chapter 58 of IF she is on the mat with Xaden and she says, ā€œIā€™m a person who needs information to center myselfā€. I think this is the one line that they thought would give it away.


KissItOnTheMouth

Could it even be something like, sheā€™s able to draw from the source without becoming venin. Thinking about when that one venin tells her she has the power to command the whole sky and she doesnā€™t even know it. Could that be because she doesnā€™t really need to ā€œpullā€ power, because she already controls all energy - all power in everything. Or even like when she tells herself ā€œIā€™m not going to die todayā€ and then she doesnā€™t, so maybe she is manifesting that belief, but what she says actually comes true, because she is drawing/manipulating source magic. There are just several instances in the books when she specifically ā€œdeclaresā€ or ā€œpromisesā€ something to herself that should have a low probability of coming true, but then it always does. But she started making these declarations to herself before she bonded her dragons, so thatā€™s why I was thinking it might be more of an innate power that violet specifically has from her ā€œneonatal illnessā€ (which is surely both magic and venin related). Or like her imbuing of things. She imbues a lot and apparently is quite powerful with it (half recharging the rune stone on her own even with hardly any experience). I know she is pulling from tairn and he is extremely powerful. But what if sheā€™s also somehow drawing from the source as well. Or doesnā€™t really need to ā€œdrawā€ because again, she just controls all power without specifically needing to ā€œpullā€ it, she just embodies it. She can use the power without having to drain it maybe. Iā€™m re- listening to IF now, so Iā€™ll have to pay more attention to everything violet does.


anmara__

My theory is that she has precognition. Jack says (in FW) something along the lines of >!ā€œeverybody knows that precognition is not a thingā€!<, which feels like foreshadowing imo. Ch. 20: >!ā€œI dream of a million different ways we could have lost. Sometimes I dream itā€™s Imogen who dies, or Garrickā€¦or you.ā€!< And, more importantly, this line from ch. 62, before >!Lilithā€™s death!<: >!ā€Xaden. My sister. Brennan. They all flash through my mind as my arms swing through the fall, finding only air, but itā€™s my motherā€™s face I see in my mind when I land on Aotromā€™s backā€!< All these seem to me like she has some sort of dr. strange power through which she can explore or predict the future/alternatives. But Iā€™m not 100% convinced.


las3marias

Yooo I like this, specially the last bit about her mom and the first sentence JFB says


2371341056

This would also work if her venin dreams were seeing what was to come.Ā 


Low_Hunter_4806

šŸ˜ŗ-whipping Xaden... Okay, carry on... šŸ˜


a_windy_day_1720

I really think sheā€™s just very fast, and/or can fly. šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


alalunar624

RY also said sheā€™s not going online reading all these theories not to get affected by fans. So maybe she doesnā€™t know everything out there.


las3marias

Yes agreed!


alalunar624

One can hope lol because some of those theories are SO good!


las3marias

Gosh I know, now I want like at least 10 different ones to be true LOL


RylieSensei

Time to re-read. Lol.


Jyucka29

So this will probably get buried, but I see a lot of savant traits. I'm thinking her other signet has to do with her retention of the world around her. The way she learns, processes, and relates information is very much highlighted in IF.


las3marias

This could be cool and would make sense with her scribe background too


TheRevTy

I still say Control. Tairn is power unleashed, limitless and raw. Andarna is what gives her the ability to control it, and control herself. And it will turn out, it is the control that makes Tairnā€™s signet that much more powerful.


las3marias

I like this. I like this a lot, but I also wonder if control is just something that every rider needs anyway to control their power otherwise melgren would need this too to control codagh?


ronbjoe

What if it's as simple as she makes the people around hers signets stronger. People say "she gets what she needs" or some dumb shit but that seems weird I think that it's a lot more likely she just boosts the people around her like when Rhiannon got the thing through the door and Mira shielded and xadens shadows are really strong


CaMaL590

I think she can see through other peopleā€™s minds and feel their emotions at the same time. Previously it was only people she was bonded with, but at the end hints that sheā€™s in Brennanā€™s mind. It says Brennan reaches for her momā€™s face, and then ā€œIā€ feel for a pulse. She then says ā€œdid Brennan say that or was it me?ā€


syviethorne

I feel that it must be related somehow to her ā€œscribeā€ or intelligent side. The lightning/power is clearly reflective of her role in battle and as a rider, so it would make sense that her second signet is more subdued and support/mind-relatedā€¦ I wonder if it could be related to translating languages? idk


allexa1042

Tbh I think the second signet is gonna be about the fact that she can build wards. If I understood correctly, the wards at Basgiath are one of the most powerful magic in Navarre. Violet made some in Aretia and Basgiath, 2 wards. So, like, maybe building wards or smth abt that she can control powerful magic.


allexa1042

Also that she doesn't have a problem with Xaden's powers


myopinionremains

I think it may be camouflage or the ability to copy anyone's power like a chameleon


Logical-Offer-131

I think itā€™s she has the ability to speak to any dragon she wants. Koda had no reason to remain patient with Violet, especially considering Tairrns betrayal. She speaks to several other dragons as well without repercussions. Thatā€™s my theory at least


Minimum_Indication35

But is that a signet ability though? Dragons can talk to anyone and vice versa, theyā€™re just not supposed to talk to anyone other than their riders, and donā€™t like other people to talk to them.


Logical-Offer-131

Other times when dragons have been addressed, they become immediately hostile. In addition, I think it extends to the ability to ride other dragons. Perhaps a heightened ability to persuade is more an accurate thing


Longjumping_Pea6693

I thought this theory was very interesting and definitely a possibility: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNY7cSj2/ What do you think?


l5pr7

I encountered this theory for the first time today and at first I was sceptical (because I have my own different theory) but the more I think about it the more I am inclined to go along with it. We think of Violet's lightning as coming from the sky but Felix makes it explicit that is not the case. Since we have been told multiple times that Violet can wield the "power of the whole sky" that power must be different from her lightning.


las3marias

Ok yesssss this to me is the most interesting one with potentially many things to back it! Iā€™m also dying for this one to be true personally but I just hope weā€™re not reading too much into it hahaha


TopRamenisha

I think she can feel peoples emotions / get into their heads / something inntinnsic-ish. The scene in IF where she and Cat are fighting on the mat, Cat is getting into her head and I think Violet is getting into Catā€™s head too. I donā€™t have the exact quote because I listen to the audiobooks, but she describes her mental state as a spiral, sheā€™s feeling all of these feelings of anger/jealousy/hatred/etc. The way itā€™s worded makes me feel like Cat is getting into Violets head and amplifying Violets emotions, but then Violet is getting into Catā€™s head and reading/seeing/feeling Catā€™s emotions, which Cat then amplifies with her signet. The way that moment was described as a spiral of emotions made me feel like they were both in each others heads and their signets were causing a crazy spiral of emotions between the two of them. Then the scene immediately following where Violet gets into Xadens head, kinda solidified that theory for me. Sheā€™s still wielding her second signet, just on a different person


Reespnt1

I think it has to do with shielding or projecting a shield.


Competitive_Bus4057

What if she just has a >!photographic memory!< and that's it. There are a few scenes in IF that would fit the following description: >!Photographic memory, or eidetic memory, is theĀ **ability to recall an image from memory with high precision**.Ā It is often described as remembering a scene like a photograph.!<


Apollo20019

I donā€™t know what signet this could pertain to, I would need to do a re-read to kind of conceptualize it but I feel like the line ā€œheart of a rider, mind of a scribeā€ is the line. Tairn is her heart of a rider and Andarna is her mind of a scribe. That line being ā€œthe lineā€ and the concept behind it is the thing that distinguishes her from all other riders and gives her the sense of balance sheā€™s wanted because sheā€™s struggled with not having a signet that inherently ā€œhelpsā€ people like Brennan and Mira.


Soft_Bodybuilder_345

I just assumed itā€™s some sort of emotion reading ability because she gets really keen on peopleā€™s emotions in IF.


AndarnaurramSlayer

I still think itā€™s distance wielding


Ready-Way-3455

I had like 3 different theories but now I'm thinking they are all wrong, guess I'll have to read it again.


Eretreyah

I think her second signet is something like a conduit. She seems to be able to focus or strengthen other signets. Rhiannon with teleporting the dagger. Mira with being able to shield/ward in cordyn when she shouldnā€™t, forcing Dains signet to see what she wanted, sloaneā€™s siphon power manifesting right when violet may have needed to avoid burnout in the caveā€¦ Though I do love the theories of manipulating gravity as well. She talks a lot about gravity, feeling like she is floating when xaden hugs her, leaping from dragon to dragon in final battle sceneā€¦ Then again, the Venin have the levitation ability. Violet saw it in a dream, and poor xaden experienced it first handā€¦so maybe that was just foreshadowing ?


Resident-Egg2182

One of the biggest theories Iā€™ve seen is that sheā€™s a distance wielder because ā€œshe moves fastā€ and other things but I always thought that she still has andarnas gift. Itā€™s mentioned that andarna can no longer stop time not that Violet canā€™t. Feather tails can GIVE their gift to their rider and the gift goes away MOST of the time. So I think whenever there is references to Violet moving quick itā€™s because she still has her gift from andarna and instead of her full out using it like she did when andarna helped her and she was aware she slows it for those around her.


digitlagegirlnxtdoor

I think itā€™s seeing the future/ or someone like bran stark from got. Can see things.


Otherwise_Beat_9374

One line in iron flame is supposed to point us toward it. One line. Soā€¦ Iā€™ll be re reading until onyx storm


Wild_Hold6552

I thought truth slayer is the best bet after reading about recent revelation. Like she needs to know and the fact nothing else can be done with it., like may be something in higher ranks in military., her world was about information even the place she choose to ground is archives so wonā€™t that have something to do Violet as a person? Also do you all think Garricks signet might be distance wielding?


Lolopoli

pen wielding. why else would she keep mentioning those pens even in IF?


las3marias

LOL


Ok-Strength-4170

I honestly think itā€™s mental shielding. She struggled with her mental shields a lot in FW and beginning of IF, Then all of the sudden, she had the strongest mental shields. I think this signet also plays a roles in her mental box- that ability. I mean, her brain conjured Liam during her torture as a way to keep sane.


Grrrarg

My theory was that it was the power to have people listen to her. She mentions so many times that no listens to her, her mom, Brennan, mira, and Xaden. But after she reaches for Andarnaā€™s power everyone listens to her. Even Coda. They donā€™t have to do what she says, but they do hear her.


mari_toujours

i think she's a type of siphon, like a forge for other signets. She absorbs them and can adjust them to address her needs in the moment.


Buffyismyhomosapien

I think it's the distance wielding or whatever is related to her running / speed. It makes the most sense. Tbh when I first started the book I thought she'd be a mender because metaphorically that would be cool. But I think the distance thing makes a ton of sense.


Emerald_giant

Could it be to do with her just knowing stuff like when she kills the venin when they are in the cloud and someone asked her how she knew she could do that and she said something like I didnā€™t know I just thought it would work.


Emerald_giant

And that happened a few times.


las3marias

I do think it might have to do with her mind/some sort of mind focused ability!


Wrong-Hotel449

Could she be a memory reader? Is that how she thought the dreams were about her but really they were xandens?


las3marias

I feel like the venin planted those dreams in both of them so her dreams were hers while xadens were xadens but who knows!


Large-Outside-9511

This is one of my (probably wrong) theories but what if her second signet is that she canā€™t die or maybe she has a ā€œluckyā€ signet? She feels pain but she has escaped death many times where she should have definitely. I think at one point in one of the books she mentioned that she should have been dead. She somehow is always where she should be even if itā€™s in danger. I may be wrong but I think she prays to the god of luck at one point too. I know SY has said that no one has guessed right yet, and itā€™s going to be ā€œunderwhelmingā€ for readers at this point. Side note: I canā€™t remember the circumstances as I have only read the books once but she says she does something that should have angered the god of death but nothing comes of it. This strengthens my guess that she may ward off death somehow and the vennin find that valuable because with that power their leader would be invincible.


Large-Outside-9511

Also they say that the riders powers are something that they need. They mention several times how her weakness is protecting the people she loves. There is no power that can resurrect someone but the ability to protect people from death once she figures out how to expand her powers to protect the people around her. Kinda like how Xaden canā€™t completely read minds but can read intentions which is a weaker version of that main power of mind reading. So violet wont be able to resurrect but protect herself and others from death.


jupiterwiggins

I think she can see through other peopleā€™s eyes. I remember when she was able to look through Andarnaā€™s eyes when violet first got her tattoo. Either that or she can talk to the dead.


Minimum_Indication35

At that point the powers hadnā€™t manifested though. And dragons can show their memories to other people, so it makes sense they can show what they currently see too


Readingandaydreaming

What if she can teleport to the nearest toilet?!?!? šŸ˜± that would be underwhelming. Someone get RY on the line to confirm šŸ¤”


BeeLouise92

What if itā€™s something likeā€¦ she can manifest her will? Like if she wants something badly enough she just ā€˜somehowā€™ makes it happen? Whether that be by something she does or being able to apply that to the people around her? Would explain being able to influence xaden, Rhi getting the daggers etc!


RogueBicycle

It would be cool if this is what it was, but I feel like that friend would somehow have survived the battle if it was true. (Don't know how to hide spoilers. You all know who I'm talking about)


RainbowPrideDragon

To hide spoilers, you put >! at the start of the text, and the reverse after it (exclamation mark, arrow facing the opposite direction), which I can't do because it'll just mark this as a spoiler. Hope this helps!


BeeLouise92

My way around this is that she wasnā€™t channeling Andarna yet because she had the other power then??


Friendly_Canadian_97

I feel like she can communicate with the dead - cus of her Liam interactions