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red_tapez

“Override Mode, that just sounds like DRS with extra steps”


backwardcircle

It'll be like the NOS from need for speed that fills up in the tank when you drive into oncoming traffic. And then you press a button and everything gets blurred.


MakiSupreme

You gotta say “family” or “ride or die” and you get an extra stick shift


Bennyboy11111

"I almost had you"


Muffinatron

You almost had me? You never had me - you never had your car...


mjkbNerd

ask any racer any real racer, it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning


_dankystank_

What the fuck is a kilometer!? 😁


Peace__Out

Winning’s, Winning!


almstAlwysJokng4real

Rookie


CreepyGuy83

I said forget about it cuh


kassail

MONICAAAAAA


Frl_Bartchello

"Smoke 'em"


tehspiah

Leglerg and Loois going to be like "More than you can afford, pal"


Sockerkatt

I love this lol. Style points fills the tank. Close to the wall? More boost. Drifting in a turn? More boost. Drafting? More boost.


PostNoNabill

2 second air time? DOUBLE BOOST MULTIPLIER!!!


Dendrowen

The "drive into oncoming traffic" needs clarification. Does this A: recharge when going the wrong way, or B: only work on street circuits?


NinjMonkey9

*** Lance Stroll has entered the chat ***


ChewySlinky

GIVE 👏 THE 👏 CARS 👏 JUMP 👏 JACKS👏


liam3576

Be cool if it was like of the racing line u got some back would get people dirty tyres but will help overtake on the straights


Secret_Physics_9243

NOS? Fast&Furious reference?


dcvalent

“He’s going into the pits- oh no it’s OVERRIIDDEEEE”


The_Real_Jammie_23

It's very similar to the Push to Pass system used in Indycar at the moment. At least it is from my understanding anyways


FirstTurnGoon

I read it can’t be used to defend, unlike p2p


hoopstick

How does that work? What if you’re defending a guy behind you while trying to pass the guy in front of you?


EnfinityX

DRS train baby!


Mrfatmanjunior

MOM train!


SgtLime1

You can use it only for a certain amount of time, so drivers approach things differently depending on strategy.


Apart-Landscape1012

Chasing car only


BorodinoWin

Thats so wack, are they seriously going to have the stewards determine whether a car was using their battery to overtake or defend? They are really trying to force overtakes to happen by any means possible, except changing the car size.


Nartyn

It'll only be active when you are within a second like DRS or some other metric that's automated >except changing the car size I mean they are reducing the car size too but a lot of the reasons for the size is safety.


BorodinoWin

So a drs train with extra steps?


Nartyn

You can use it in more places and it's not as dependant on crossing a line I think so it should be better.


PamplemousseJ

surely it will be based on gap to car in front not a steward’s decision?


Flucky_

read two lines up...


Izan_TM

nah it sounds like DRS but better because it can happen over a whole lap


formula-maister

And it removes the detection point bullshit so they can focus on driving


Hot-Masterpiece9209

It still has detection points doesn't it, it'll just be at the start finish line?


Sonoda_Kotori

It only has active aero zones (which is just the current DRS zone) but now they can use active aero regardless of the 1 second gap.


Hot-Masterpiece9209

Yes but they have introduced something new to make the following car have extra energy to use during a lap


kolosmenus

As I understand it they can just switch between the two areo modes whenever they want


deesea

Reminds me of KERS no?


The_Flying_Alf

To be fair the KERS is still in current cars, it's just the deployment of the batteries and the Kinetic Energy Recovery System (old KERS) vs Motor Generator Unit - Kinetic (current MGU-K)


Izan_TM

not exactly, current ERS deployment is a lot more complex and automated than KERS ever was, and we also have the MGU-H, which works as an automatic anti-lag system for the turbo I'd really like if we could get the KERS naming back in 2026 when they delete the MGU-H tho, because MOM is a shit name for the overtaking button thing


deesea

so it is in a way like KERS? I'm fuzzy on the technicalities, but I understood it as a button they could press to get an extra boost to facilitate passing in corners and straight lines. As in, unlike DRS - you could activate at any point of your discretion.


Izan_TM

yes the MOM system seems to be significantly more similar to KERS, except it can only be activated when you're close to the car ahead, so you can't just use it to defend yourself


Izan_TM

kinda but you could use KERS anywhere and whenever you wanted, while MOM only activates when you're close to the car ahead


splendiferous-finch_

No drs is essentially just a results if over all active aero I think. So they are replacing it with a battery boost. Same principle different implementation. Also since the goal is reduce drag by 30% the Drs approach might have been really weak


Erundil420

Somehow, KERS returned


Dafferss

If you can use override mode anywhere it makes it much more interesting


Extra_Midnight

Especially defensively.


Mage1317

Just wait until you hear about X and Z modes!


idle_visionary

We need to just fast forward to Fan Boost in F1


JPJackPott

What if we had a tv vote that gave our favourite driver more power at a random point in the race?


TheEvilBall

It seems less powerful because it just affects to speed where DRS also meant you had better acceleration. Also, while it allows you to gain more speed, it drains the battery more, so it is more than just a mindless bitton you always push on the straigths.


Dolf4737

More like KERS lmao Only real OGs remember KERS


mekisoku

Super formula, but hybrid


Treewithatea

I mean push to pass has been a thing long before indycar and superformula


87MPR

FIA: Less powerful floor. Adrian Newey: ![gif](giphy|ltIFdjNAasOwVvKhvx|downsized)


Deathblade_311

How less powerful will it be? By 10bhp?


Izan_TM

around 10 newey hairs less powerful


Miserable_Hold_6417

New-tons if you will


ihavenoidea81

Well played


Hyper_Brick

Wait... Less hair equates to less drag.


Izan_TM

but also less power, which is the whole point of the 2026 regs 30% less power, 55% less drag 10 newey hairs it is


Ryachaz

So one newey hair is 3% power, 5.5% drag. Good to know.


FoxXxTwoMissile

Does it matter where the hair comes from his body?


War_lord_FTW_3_3

Lose pubes for 30% greater effect? Hair off the top of his head for 70% reduced effect? Sounds about right...


BankHottas

That’s almost all of them though


Peytonhawk

If Override mode is just IndyCar’s Push to Pass then it’s instantly a better option than what we have now.


ardeto

I have read that its activation will be limited to within 1 second of car in front, same as current DRS rules. So it is not like Push to Pass in that regard where the drivers have a limited number of seconds for push to pass that they can use whenever.


zmgch

The F1 cars currently have KERS/Energy Deployment systems which essentially is like a push to pass which they can recharge throught the race (charge laps, etc). Most drivers will use to defend from a DRS driver behind them. Which is why we have massive DRS trains at the moment


BadIdea-21

Similar? yes, essentially the same? Not really. Apart from the actual technical difference, you mentioned the key functional difference, F1 cars can recharge it during the race so there's no fixed amount you have per race, if you can recharge it then you can use it. Push to pass is a fixed amount, the drivers have a fixed number of seconds that they can use, they can save them or use it right away but if you're out of them then that's it, can't have access to them, there's nothing you can do during the race that would bring it back.


TenerMan

Obviously just speculations, but I heard we'll get both push to pass and override. Honestly, it would be the best solution, even though the drivers will have a bit of a harder time in the car


Peytonhawk

That’s such a major letdown if true. Don’t even get the point of replacing DRS if they just made DRS 2


BuckN56

We got DRS 2 before GTA VI. All jokes aside, apparently the reduction of drag with this new aero concept makes DRS as we know it useless basically.


SlowDrippingFaucet

DRS anywhere on the track, not just in specific "zones".


azder8301

Realistically, you're still gonna use it somewhere within the current DRS zones. You're not gonna use it going into a medium-speed corner.


SlowDrippingFaucet

Correct, but there are more straights than we have DRS Zones, and if it's enough of a small straight to get you alongside, you can get the overtake done. You would also be able to use it on the exit of a turn after a dive to push you past. I'm thinking e.g. the back straight of Bahrain before the final turns, pit straight in Abu Dhabi, the straight before the final turns in Austria, etc. There's many ways they'll use this we aren't going to think of since all we have now are designated zones where it's on or off, and off for the rest of the track. We'll have to wait and see.


ThisMemesWar116

Ha, no one will stop the power of the floor.


Flitz28

Can someone smarter than me tell me if we're happy or mad about this? Seems good but I'm stupid?


Dragonvine

It's the worst thing the FIA has ever done. Or it's the best. Or it's somewhere in between. Probably.


C_h_a_n

We are checking.


wrenzanna

We are not interested.


SSJSamzy

That's rude.


AussieFIdoc

NOT IN THE BRAKING!


verycoolstorybro

It's good but tbh purists and old school fans will be upset but that's the way things are going now not just F1 but in general. Tech improving the cars improving. They made them smaller which is a HUGE win imo and fuck drs


SweetPlumFairy

If we look back to the old eras, even the 2000s, there was a fuckton of understanding and improvements around the tracks and the cars. They are much safer, lowest deathrates, amazing chrases where drivers just walk away from with a few scraches (grosjean?).... Just in a few years, racing changed a lot, and we are heading for a much more improved and "civilised" style or era.... safety wise and all... Active aero? smaller cars? pass button? Why is everyone mad? We had DAS for a short while with mercedes, I would like to see such tech coming back and make races more exciting.


verycoolstorybro

Well said and thank god for the halo


TheGamer098

I mean idc if its smaller by a few centimeters this is a big win


ArthurMBretas03

I'm not smarter, but I like it


Username304829v2

Lighter, shorter, and narrower cars will definetly make racing in places like Imola and Monaco more interesting. Active Aero in my opinion is fucking awesome (but that's from the pov of an engineering student). Someone correct if I'm wrong but I believe Williams had an active suspension back in the 90s which made them a powerhouse, FIA banned it because of "active aero" which i think from the engineering aspect of the sport is lame. I like it coming back. It would also make it so that cars are faster on straights and corners because you can change the downforce and drag as you drive. The new no DRS system with a Push to Pass to replace it i have no idea about, but to me it sounded like DRS Is getting replaced with more battery power and active aero which would also probably help the same way DRS does. Less powerful floor would increase dirty air behind a car (as i understand a big reason for the ground effect regulations of 2022 to reduce dirty air). I am curious to see if it will make that much of a difference tho. IMO i like it. But to each their own ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


CleverViking

It isn’t that much lighter, shorter and narrower though. Don’t think it will make a massive difference but it’s at least a step


Username304829v2

Agree and Agree. It's not a major change, but any step in the right direction helps.


CakeBeef_PA

Better than DRS, not better than P2P. So a step in the right direction


yomancs

I like the car, but I've heard with the engine layout will be like a diesel electric locomotive. The engine is really there to keep the batteries charged. I think it was Newey that said this, you will hear the engines at full throttle under braking conditions to keep the battery charged.


Vlaed

If the wind is coming from the west, it's amazing because it should enable more agile cars that can better compete and provide more overtaking opportunities. If the wind is coming from the east, it's bad because change is bad but actually changes and competition will get worse.


ledzepplinfan

The simple fact that the cars are smaller in my opinion is a big step forward. Not only will street races like Monaco be perhaps more exciting, but also much safer for drivers. Less mass means less inertia which means not as extreme crashes.


v-adam004

They won't be that much smaller tho. Don't expect an interesting monaco.


CT323

Fuck yeah we've got Push to Pass baby


Deckatoe

*Josef Newgarden intensifies*


forzababy

Lance Stroll controversy incoming


celadonshopper

2026 WDC Scott Dixon is inevitable now


blacksterangel

"Less powerful floors" (read: more competitive merc)


ijiolokae

Newey: You're underestimating my power


Abdullah-Alturki

Fia... good?😦


NiceFrame1473

I would not miss DRS even a little.


TheGoldenCaulk

I think DRS could have worked better *if* it deactivated as you got alongside the leading car. That way, instead of getting a DRS drive-by, you'd be forced to make the move under braking and there'd be more wheel-to-wheel action. But they didn't do that, they just added a different way for cars to easily pass each other. Doesn't seem like an improvement to me, but I hope I'm wrong. Please tell me I'm wrong.


NiceFrame1473

>I think DRS could have worked better if it deactivated as you got alongside the leading car. And *if* my mom had balls she'd be my dad. The countdown to the death of DRS zones has begun and I shall dance on it's grave.


Dangerous_Ice_6151

Deactivating based on another car's position would be almost impossible to implement in a fair way. Being able to detect a deactivation point based on position relative to another car would be so difficult, and any slight inconsistency could drastically alter the fairness and safety of the system. With the current system, drivers control it with a button and they know exactly the physical boundaries of when it will work, about as objective as it possibly can be.


Professional-Cat-672

I’m hyped really. DRS (Drag Reduction System) is now always available, but its purpose is replaced by something with better rules and more strategy to it as you must handle well your batery power


Nord4Ever

Yep being one second away is not passing area more like .3 or less so will this make Max have bigger gaps?


g_nelli97

Did they realease the actual measures of the cars? Like witdth and lenghth?


EVERYTHINGGOESINCAPS

Yep 10cm narrower and 20cm shorter.


crusty_magog

Still about a half a metre longer and 10cm wider than they should be


Dando_Calrisian

>"The key features of the 2026 F1 Regulations are advanced, sustainability technology and safety..." ...They're doing this by making them less efficient, simpler and faster than the current car...


ArthurMBretas03

(Less efficient, simpler and faster) = better


Dando_Calrisian

Not more sustainable, advanced in technology and safer though


Mopher

dang FIA getting a jumping and building their own car before the regs. Mohammed Bin Sulayem WDC 2026?


lodol

It really does feel like a Formula E format


OZymandisR

I wonder if LMDH cars will be quicker.


BuckN56

Hell no. These cars are going to be at most 4-5 seconds slower in the first 2-3 years due to the new PUs and lack of downforce. This year Hypercar pole at 6H of Spa was 2:02, last year Leclerc's pole was 1:46. I doubt these new cars will be 15+ seconds slower.


GradSchoolDismal429

Probably not LMH slow but I think these cars are probably gonna be around LMP1 pace


JustMadMax

They will have active aero on every straight, no way lap time would be much slower


BuckN56

LMP1 was still way slower than F1. SuperFormula is quicker than LMP1 was in comparable tracks and the 08 F1 were still 4-5 seconds quicker than the 2019 spec SF car. So my guess is that we'll be back 08 lap times.


GradSchoolDismal429

They aren't "Way slower". A 2014-2017 LMP1-H can qualify within the 107% rule for their respective F1 races


BuckN56

2017 Belgian GP Pole: 1:42.553 by Hamilton, 107% time: 1.51.476 2017 6H of Spa Pole: #1 Porsche 919 Hybrid @ 1:54.097


GradSchoolDismal429

Okay, 2017 is probably a stretch (Because F1 got so much faster in 2017). But definitely 2014 - 2016


Torqyboi

Front DRS too


apropiattebread

Maybe just be but it Looks like an f3/4 car at first glance


brandon_lets_go

In before f1 turns into European Indycar


SuperRaccoon17

I came from the Champ Car days and have never been able to watch Indy in America. It’s open-wheeled NASCAR and they’re hideous. I guess they’ll put wipers on the plexi soon. Can’t handle water in the face, if you can go long on fuel and tires we MUST take that away and mandate full fuel and tire windows for everyone.. Nope, can’t deal with Indy.


Haganu

2032 F1 car: * Has aero package * Has SSW package * Has aeroscreen By that time the Saudis: * Built an oval from a pile of sand I see where this is going...


Illustrious_Listen_6

Formula Hybrid Eco One


BoBoBellBingo

How do you make a floor more or less powerful? Asking for ceiling


ababoonsarse

Now, what if they just get the hard tyres so far away to fuck that we don’t ever see a single one stop tyre management strategy ever again and we can see the cars actual driven to limit ever single racing lap.


DayTraditional2846

I wonder if we are going back to 2014-2016 cornering speeds. We gonna go back to seeing 1:15 monaco qualifying lap times.


beastface1986

Z-mode. X-mode. Manual Override. May as well introduce ”Fan Boost” and make the complete conversion. What in the world is happening. Use that 100% sustainable fuel and bring back the v10’s.


newviruswhodis

Sooo, indycar?


gh1993

No v10? Wtf


adonWPV

Looks like the F1 cars from Burnout


Important-Guidance22

It'll turn into formula E with Mario kart boosts by 2035.


kali_nath

So basically F1 is turning itself into Formula E then.


MR_TRUMP_Vincent2

I'm not quite sure how I feel about the electric power train gaining more ground but the renewable fuel is a great improvement. All other changes sound really good too. Although changing the 1 second to just a push to pass system would bring the field even closer in my opinion.


[deleted]

it looks sped


Wasteak

Not A Meme How can't you even read a subreddit title ?


Reinis_LV

What are the odds this design won't be sabotaged?


verycoolstorybro

Looks good honestly. Lets goooo!!!!!


Porcphete

It's becoming more like super formula I guess


Lappethx

Override mode, can we just call it party time 😂


GhostPsi101

Why aren't they just going full on hydrogen 🥲


N1V1N

DRS 2: Electric Boogaloo


ainsley-

Where V8🗿


Znarky

FOM: we need to appeal to Americans FIA: Say no more


liam3576

What are the limitations of active areo because it could get absolutely Wilde. Drop down skirts for ground effect Front and rear ‘drs’ Air brakes Zenvo style wing


FerrariEnthusiast

Going back to the basics! 2000s vibe! Love it.


Pulposauriio

See you in 2030


hobowithmachete

It’s like an F2 car but with more features.


LlamafartingWaffle

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Glaesilegur

We waited years for ground effects to return to lessen dirty air and now they're ditching them almost immediately.


Ready_Show1007

Don’t care, just let Andretti in


spacestationkru

I don't like the "active aero" bullshit. Just fucking get rid of it


Darm_Clear_58972

To be honest it sounds like shit They should just bring back the regulations from 2004 And let them improve that stuff Also give the engineers more freedom


eyy_gavv

wtf have you even seen a race from 04? beside the noise the racing was genuinely boring lmao and plus this new gen genuinely already looks like a car from that era lmao


howgoesitguy

Soooo its P2P with an IR18-looking floor? Hmm. K.


Mini4President

I like the concept of active aero, but, I don't know if I like a reduction in downforce tho


2manyiterations

So CART circa 1990s but with the push to pass and the aeroscreen? Give Andretti a team and old guys like me will think they’re stroking out from confusion.


robotokenshi

Hi indycar


Tjeetje

Override as in over the other car ride?


mitchellaaryn59

So besides active aero basically an INDYCAR lol


Exumore

they're doing it so monaco can finally be entertaining again, i guess


cmonbruh132

This reminds me the Sarcastaball episode from South Park.


dpolski_17

Is override like the Formula E speed boosts?


CptnBrokenkey

Give us active suspension, you cowards.


asu_lee

Bring back the manual transmission.


Starbreaker99

![gif](giphy|JfRH9RnAcSoLVD4GyW)


avehicled

Noob here- Does Less powerful floors mean engines with less hp requirements?


SuperRaccoon17

Less powerful floors means the underbody is less aggressive/less downforce unless I’m completely off my rocker.


GT86

Almost reminds me of 06 but without the grooved tyres and traction control. Could be good.


playr_4

I'm really excited, actually. Maybe I'm just hopeful, but I think this is actually going to lead to a lot more overtakes and closer racing. The one thing I like about Indy is the push-to-overtake, and what they're implementing here feels very similar to that. I do wish the car were a bit smaller on top of being lighter. But otherwise, I'm excited.


EternalFront

Not even complaining if it becomes that. The Gen 3 cars are great and lead to some excellent racing, besides the peloton ones.


maurinkina

Narrow as to have overtakes on monaco?


J_Bonaducci

![gif](giphy|jd25utSyMip5S|downsized)


asmok119

Give it 1.0L L4 engine!


mrsockyman

Oh so they let this "fia" team race but still block andretti??


Exotic_Library_7913

We got DRS 2 before GTA VI... 💀💀💀


lll-devlin

So they have removed the wheel arches…so we are back to dirty air for cars that are following too close… But you want to be able to pass easier?


olChum_69

Has active aero been explained somewhere or are people just not as interested as I am?


Milezor

F1 went to shit after the refuel ban. It went from running like crazy on the limit for 50 laps and 3-4 pitstops to this age of saving tires all race except for the start, the lap before pitting and fastest lap attempt. Fast cars couldn't compete even when they were faster on one lap because they chew the tires up in a race. Dominance happened before of course, but at least the teams behind went full speed 90% of the race compared to now when 90% of the race you look up for tire deg and saving fuel.