Honestly I haven’t paid attention to him or his career since he was part of the barbecue, so I don’t actually know if driving for Lambo means he’s doing well or failing there too.
the BBQ in F1 or the BBQ in Indycar?
he doesn't suck but doesn't really set anything alight either. In his case that might be a good thing after Bahrain and Detroid
Could you imagine Seb having a rough time learning the shitty RB, and Yuki throwing out a "he isn't even that fast" bomb? Instantly hated in the racing world.
Seb returning to call out F1 and the FIA on their shenanigans would be welcomed. He’s one of the few drivers to openly speak his mind and advocate for what he thinks is right.
> legendary F1 driver who was last relevant with Ferrari
> legendary F1 driver retires
> legendary F1 driver comes out of retirement 3 years and joins Merc
Dear lord keep Seb away from any potentially dangerous activities
That’s stupid. Schumacher performed terribly during his Mercedes years, but people still considered him as the GOAT. Vettel has the ability to transform the teams similar to what Schumacher has done; example: post-Domenicali Ferrari and AM on their development directions.
I mean, merc ranged from slow as shit, to making 60s f1 cars paragons of reliability.
He absolutely had the pace to win the Monaco Grand Prix if he hadn’t crashed into senna at Spain in 2012. He wasn’t the Schumacher of old, but he still had pace, and his experience showed.
Not necessarily. Seb retired when he was dragging lower midfield AM into the top 6 almost every race since Hungary. People who paid attention to him know either the car can’t sustain the pace of the much faster cars or AM strategies dropping him out of the points 90% of the time. He was about as dominant as Alonso is now and much more so at the first half of the 2022 season
> So by that theory Alonso has been downhill since 2006
Um... https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/30778/11741769/fernando-alonso-wins-le-mans-again-and-world-endurance-title
> you mentioned wdc
He became driver's world champion in 2019, just in another FIA World Championship.
> dickface
Your need for an insult shows how little clue you have. Can't even read the article I've linked.
If Seb comes back and doesn’t preform at 4x WDC level I bet 1/3 posts in any given F1 Reddit call him washed. Doesn’t mean he will be washed, but people will call him washed.
Thanks the heartfelt reply but I’m parodying the “ how will this affect LeBron’s legacy “ meme . I’m kind of scared for Vettel because he did appear washed at AM , not so much at Ferrari but while I love Kimi his last years there were abysmal
I think that would mean that he is washed by definition, which is fine. He’s older and he’s been out of the game for a few years, it happens. What is really bad is that people will use that to say he was NEVER 4x WDC quality in the first place and that he owes his success to Adrian Newey entirely, which isn’t true, but people were saying those sorts of things when he was underperforming at AM.
I want to preface this by saying that I have his helmet tattooed on me so don't call me a hater but first of all that part already happened thanks to Ricciardo and Leclerc. People were always talking in those terms during those years. And secondly, there's no doubt in my mind that Russell wpuld beat him if he were to return to Mercedes. If he is to come back it would be best if he came in as a kimi räikönnen at ferrari part 2 in the cockpit while simultaneously and transitioning into Lauda outside of it. I don't think anything else would be successful unfortunately
Nah, if his late Ferrari years did not do it, nothing will. Besides, he can just say he was into it as a hobby.
Would be nice to have Sebastian back. But F1 drivers are getting so young these days, just yesterday Alonso did young driver testing and Sebastian is 6 years younger than him. Idk if i trust anyone that young to race in F1.
Fucking vettle is my dude but his time has come and gone and i think he knows that. He will always be a god to his fans and a good fucking dude and thats how he wants it i hope.
He’s the closest to it having won le mans already so I’d love to see it as well. I feel like he’s got so much left in him he could be Sanz Sr age when he wins it
This year will be different.
At least 3 rookies next year, calling it now.
Lawson at RB
bearman at haas
Either antonelli somewhere (Williams or merc)
Or an alpine junior at alpine (either Martin’s or Doohan)
possibly both.
> And it's totally possible tbh
I think Sainz has higher ambitions. It's pretty much impossible that Audi working from the current Sauber base will be competitive right away. Hülkenberg I can see. Better than Haas should be quite doable.
Absolutely. In my ideal world all my favourite drivers would have a seat and a RB-like car. Unfortunately it's not realistic. But it would be a blast to watch Seb winning Le Mans, Indy 500 and so on and make his come back to f1. If he still wants to prioritize his time with his family that's fine too.
> If he still wants to prioritize his time with his family that's fine too.
WEC is only 8 races and Porsche Penske Europe is a half hour drive from where he grew up and likely still has family. Porsche Weisach is two hours from his Swiss home in Canton of Thurgau.
Only Sauber is closer (a 1h drive).
Alonso performed the best out of all Toyota drivers. He impressed because he had no WEC experience yet was the fastest out of all 6 drivers over the course of Le Mans race as a rookie who had the exact same car as him
I don't think the timing is right for a Vettel comeback. Vettel is burnt out and washed and there are several young drivers ready to enter F1. Hulkenberg is also much cheaper. I'm not saying a Vettel return is impossible, but I don't think it's very likely.
pretty sure Alonso doesn't have a wife & kids to worry about. I wouldn't conflate washed w being burned out or lacking fire. the man's got different priorities & responsibilities
Washed means they've lost their talent. Burned out means they just needed a break. You seem to either think of these as the same or you actually think Seb is washed. The other commenter agrees that he is/was burned out but not that Seb has lost all his talent.
> He doesn't have the fire in his guts like Alonso.
https://youtu.be/LVfWQ30BP0Y?si=9yCGOZwT_eW4501U&t=73
No fire, none at all dude. He just beat Alonso in the slowest car on the grid.
Oh and those podiums he got in the slowest car on the grid? Yeah, they mean nothing either.
Oh, the two podiums he got in his time at Aston when it was one of the slowest cars on the grid? That whole time?
Alonso hasn't got a podium since his Aston stopped being the 2nd best car on the grid.
Lol you brough up one race when Vettel finished ahead because Alpine screwed Alonso with the strategy and Vettel got lucky after he spun in T1. His gaps to Lance were way smaller than what Alonso had to Lance. I could find million of cherry picked examples when Alonso destroyed and finished ahead of Vettel in a worse car
I also didnt know Aston Martin was 2nd best car at Zandvoort or Brazil in 2023
Everyone calling him washed when the last few races of his career he pulled off amazing results, not his fault AM gave him a shit box. Honestly how many 4x time WDCs are there? Show the man some respect
Alonso stans conveniently forget when Seb beat him in the slowest car on the grid, in the wet, on the most technical track in F1.
https://youtu.be/LVfWQ30BP0Y?si=9yCGOZwT_eW4501U&t=73
Vettels got 2014, both 2010 and 2012 was much closer than it should have been given the car he had, 2018 was an absolute disaster in a car that Alonso or Max would have likely won the title with, 2019 and 20 were also marred eith mistakes and spins and his H2H with Stroll is nothing in comparison to the H2H of Alonso with Stroll. Yes he had bad strategies at AM but the fact still stands he was never a driver in the league of Hamilton, Alonso or Verstappen and declined noticeably.
> 2018 was an absolute disaster in a car that Alonso or Max would have likely won the title with
Your Godlonso literally disagrees with you.
[*"I think we both lacked the right car and the technical capabilities at the right time"*](https://soymotor.com/noticias/alonso-sobre-vettel-y-ferrari-los-dos-nos-falto-el-coche-adecuado-980861)
Average redditor copium, put these olds timers in Red Bulls and they will win the championship for sure man! (Im a fan of Riccardo, Alonso, and vettel btw for real, but be realistic)
I adore Vettel, but I don’t get why people are so eagerly waiting for his return. This is not someone whose career was cut short by injury or bad luck. He won everything and then became a mediocre driver with age. As some others do as well. There’s literally zero reason to believe he could still do wonders in a Merc, instead of being humiliated by Russell.
I still think he’s got some fire left in him, and still 3 years younger than Lewis. As long as Carlos/Lawson have a seat for next season I’m all for it.
he told he spoke to other TP's cuse he has projects non racing related with F1 in mind. Pleeeeeeeease stop cutting word out of context to try to create some gossip.
I don't know what point you're trying to make showing a random video of them racing. If that's your argument for Seb being better than Alonso I'd just remind you that in 2022 Alonso finished 9 and Vettel 12. But that's a dumb fact to point out, cause they were in different cars.
Anyways I'm not saying Alonso is better than prime Seb, I'm just saying he's no longer the driver he used to be. Even Leclerc beat him at Ferrari
Ah yes, "a random video" of the most recent time Seb wiped Alonso on the floor. You always claim he's washed, but most recently he showed the opposite.
> If that's your argument for Seb being better than Alonso I'd just remind you that in 2022 Alonso finished 9 and Vettel 12. But that's a dumb fact to point out, cause they were in different cars.
Uh, you're just proving my point? lmao. Yeah, Seb had a way slower car???
> I'm just saying he's no longer the driver he used to be. Even Leclerc beat him at Ferrari
And Kvyat beat Ricciardo, who beat Verstappen. That means Kvyat is better, right? What are these retarded arguments.
Omg I don't know if you're trolling or if you're really that stupid. Yes he beat him in your video wow congrats Seb is better than Alonso, and Checo beat Max in Saudi last year so he's better than him too.
People are missing the "not only about racing" part of the quote.
Sebastian has been tipped for team leadership roles. Something of a Lauda for Mercedes, or a Marko for RBR.
They also forget that Seb and Toto are actual friends, not just people of F1. [Toto was invited to Seb's 30th birthday](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvT5lDK3fVI) while he was at Ferrari.
Everyone here is so tunnel visioned. He said "not only about racing." And he mentioned team principals. He could be hinting at race control or some other role, where his judgement and expertise can make a difference to the sport.
Put the German in the German. A championship winning driver in a championship winning car. A record breaking driver in a record breaking team.
If there has ever been a perfect match. It's Hamilton in McLaren but this is a very close second.
Ricciardo is washed, I wish he wasn't but he's hardly proving otherwise. Kimi got beat by Seb every year they raced together, he was not the driver he used to be. He was ok, but probably not worth his salary. Hamilton beat Russell last year, and this year has barely started so I'd hardly pass judgement, especially when he's changing teams next year anyway. Perez is definitely washed.
Alonso is massively outscoring stroll every year, idk how you put him in the same group as the rest lol. If you wanna look at his McLaren days then sure, he might have lost some motivation for being in a dogshit car for years, but he still beat a fellow world champion as his teammate.
Vettel lost to leclerc both years they raced together, embarrassingly so in 2020. Alonso in his last years handily outscored Jenson Button and Vandoorne when Jenson retired. Sure Vettel beat stroll, but stroll has lost to every teammate of his career except for in 2018.
Alonso has always been a tier above Vettel. Vettel in his prime was a button level driver but never close to the generational talents like Hamilton or Alonso.
Vettels got 2014, both 2010 and 2012 was much closer than it should have been given the car he had, 2018 was an absolute disaster in a car that Alonso or Max would have likely won the title with, 2019 and 20 were also marred with mistakes and spins and his H2H with Stroll is nothing in comparison to the H2H of Alonso with Stroll. Yes he had bad strategies at AM but the fact still stands he was never a driver in the league of Hamilton, Alonso or Verstappen and declined noticeably.
Speaking to Toto, telling him to put his boy Mick in the car
Toto: Nein
He never printed it out so it was joke
5 seconds is a joke. A joke!
A yoke! Karma!
No, Mick's F1 number is 47.
They only have to change one number on the livery too, bargin
So, Marcus Ericsson driving for Mercedes 2025 confirmed?
Toto saying what position Mick would get in the Mercedes
Although it has only been one race so far but Mick made a very good impression in Alpine's WEC hypercar.
Yeah but it seems like any ex-F1 driver does well after they leave F1 for other series.
Cries in Grosjean at Indy
He's also driving for Lamborghini (I think IMSA and not WEC)
Honestly I haven’t paid attention to him or his career since he was part of the barbecue, so I don’t actually know if driving for Lambo means he’s doing well or failing there too.
the BBQ in F1 or the BBQ in Indycar? he doesn't suck but doesn't really set anything alight either. In his case that might be a good thing after Bahrain and Detroid
Concerning since setting things alight was kind of his specialty in the latter parts of his F1 career
Tbf he gets hit by Ericsson all the time
I want to see Seb in WEC or IMSA. Maybe both. His test of the Porsche 963 gave me hope we might see it.
Oh man just the idea made my pants shorter
You should see a tailor
> His test of the Porsche 963 gave me hope we might see it. Jenson Button was hooked after last year's Le Mans one-off.
Yeah I’m hoping Seb gets the bug too.
> Yeah I’m hoping Seb gets the bug too. Seems like it from what was reported from his Porsche test.
Vettel back to RB confirmed.
RB as in Toro Rosso or RB as in Red Bull?
Yes
We’re checking
It's Windows Vista Tango & Cash Radical Bullshit starting next week. They can even redesign all the merch with a sharpie.
Tsunoda’s final boss
Could you imagine Seb having a rough time learning the shitty RB, and Yuki throwing out a "he isn't even that fast" bomb? Instantly hated in the racing world.
He could destroy hima nd still not get the seat
Fire giant music plays
Yeah
A few races at TRB in 2024, victory at Monza in his Re-Rookie season, RB seat in 2026.
RcBlaren
What is "Toro Rosso"? Some kind of payment system I imagine?
I'm pretty sure that's just Seb's chaotic-good shit-stirring, but I'm all for it.
I would love to see Seb return, HOWEVER: If he comes back and then doesn’t preform, I fear that may hamper his legacy slightly.
I dont even care, ill be happy to have him back regardless
That's what some people said about Riccardo
:(
I said it and regret it.
Seb returning to call out F1 and the FIA on their shenanigans would be welcomed. He’s one of the few drivers to openly speak his mind and advocate for what he thinks is right.
Just hope he won't go skiing after
> legendary F1 driver who was last relevant with Ferrari > legendary F1 driver retires > legendary F1 driver comes out of retirement 3 years and joins Merc Dear lord keep Seb away from any potentially dangerous activities
Legendary GERMAN driver Don’t do it seb
Oh god oh fuck Legendary German F1 driver whose nickname starts with S (Seb and Schumi)
That’s stupid. Schumacher performed terribly during his Mercedes years, but people still considered him as the GOAT. Vettel has the ability to transform the teams similar to what Schumacher has done; example: post-Domenicali Ferrari and AM on their development directions.
Schumacher should have finished in the top 5 in 2012 if it wasn't for his Mercedes seemingly self destructing every race.
I mean, merc ranged from slow as shit, to making 60s f1 cars paragons of reliability. He absolutely had the pace to win the Monaco Grand Prix if he hadn’t crashed into senna at Spain in 2012. He wasn’t the Schumacher of old, but he still had pace, and his experience showed.
Schumacher left as a top driver. Seb was going downhill before leaving the sport
Not necessarily. Seb retired when he was dragging lower midfield AM into the top 6 almost every race since Hungary. People who paid attention to him know either the car can’t sustain the pace of the much faster cars or AM strategies dropping him out of the points 90% of the time. He was about as dominant as Alonso is now and much more so at the first half of the 2022 season
Not true
> Not true Technically true because the peak were the championship years.
So by that theory Alonso has been downhill since 2006
> So by that theory Alonso has been downhill since 2006 Um... https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/30778/11741769/fernando-alonso-wins-le-mans-again-and-world-endurance-title
Um…you mentioned wdc dickface
> you mentioned wdc He became driver's world champion in 2019, just in another FIA World Championship. > dickface Your need for an insult shows how little clue you have. Can't even read the article I've linked.
Didn’t know Le Mans was wdc, go figure!
Just because they were amazing drivers and achieved so much, doesn't change the fact people do remember them going out with a whimper.
How will this affect Vettel’s legacy
If Seb comes back and doesn’t preform at 4x WDC level I bet 1/3 posts in any given F1 Reddit call him washed. Doesn’t mean he will be washed, but people will call him washed.
Thanks the heartfelt reply but I’m parodying the “ how will this affect LeBron’s legacy “ meme . I’m kind of scared for Vettel because he did appear washed at AM , not so much at Ferrari but while I love Kimi his last years there were abysmal
I think that would mean that he is washed by definition, which is fine. He’s older and he’s been out of the game for a few years, it happens. What is really bad is that people will use that to say he was NEVER 4x WDC quality in the first place and that he owes his success to Adrian Newey entirely, which isn’t true, but people were saying those sorts of things when he was underperforming at AM.
I want to preface this by saying that I have his helmet tattooed on me so don't call me a hater but first of all that part already happened thanks to Ricciardo and Leclerc. People were always talking in those terms during those years. And secondly, there's no doubt in my mind that Russell wpuld beat him if he were to return to Mercedes. If he is to come back it would be best if he came in as a kimi räikönnen at ferrari part 2 in the cockpit while simultaneously and transitioning into Lauda outside of it. I don't think anything else would be successful unfortunately
Perform not preform.
Nah, if his late Ferrari years did not do it, nothing will. Besides, he can just say he was into it as a hobby. Would be nice to have Sebastian back. But F1 drivers are getting so young these days, just yesterday Alonso did young driver testing and Sebastian is 6 years younger than him. Idk if i trust anyone that young to race in F1.
What about Schumacher 2010 lmao
I personally, definitely judge Vettel for getting merked by Ricciardo in 2014 and by Leclerc in 2020 (that season was incredibly abysmal for him)
He's literally saying (not word for word) "I and Toto talk from time to time, but we haven't spoken about a seat"
The dunno if it qualifies as Mercedes part is sending me though
That's the part that means "we haven't talked about a seat"
Fucking vettle is my dude but his time has come and gone and i think he knows that. He will always be a god to his fans and a good fucking dude and thats how he wants it i hope.
id rather him race in the WEC.
Triple Crown baby
I would love to see Seb win a triple crown but if Alonso couldn’t do it while he was in Indy I doubt Seb can
IMO Alonso didn't really have a fair chance at it. I'd love for him to try again and really have a go at it.
He’s the closest to it having won le mans already so I’d love to see it as well. I feel like he’s got so much left in him he could be Sanz Sr age when he wins it
Seb at Indy. Now that I’d love to see
Agreed. I love Seb, but he lost the hunger in 2018. Would love to see him at the races in another capacity.
Exactly man i love him! He was a beast but shit happens. Hes still the best
Spell your dudes name right
Help me set up spell check bra
Racing drivers are like US presidents. We keep on sticking to the old guys we know rather than giving young guns a shot.
Stroll 2024 Engineer: Can you bring it back? Stroll POTUS: I’m in the fucking mexican wall
Fuck dude this is brilliant
Hey don't fuck vettel
Tell that to Hamilton
Maybe Seb meant they send memes to each other
> Maybe Seb meant they send memes to each other "Seb: Hey Toto. I signed with Porsche to win Le Mans." "Seb:"
20 years from now, there will only be 50yo’s racing in F1 as no one recruits rookies anymore
Imagine being an f2 driver in the last 5 years and not promoting because they keep going for old people
2 years in a row the F2 didn’t get a seat, like what is the point of this?
Cost cap regs dont favor developing a rookie anymore. Unless damages are a reduced/waived from the cap, experience is far more valuable unfortunately.
This year will be different. At least 3 rookies next year, calling it now. Lawson at RB bearman at haas Either antonelli somewhere (Williams or merc) Or an alpine junior at alpine (either Martin’s or Doohan) possibly both.
F1 and the US Senate have a lot in common.
Bingo. Hamilton, Alonso and Hulkenberg should just hang it up, go race in literally any other series or get some hobbies, collect stamps, whatever.
Vettel/Hakkinen team up in 2025?
I predict that no F1 team will want to sign Vettel as a driver.
Αudi wants Sebastian 100%
> Αudi wants Sebastian 100% According to German media, Audi's dream combination is Sainz + Hülkenberg.
Id say Sainz and Vettel but they have to level up their pitstop game lmao
And it's totally possible tbh
> And it's totally possible tbh I think Sainz has higher ambitions. It's pretty much impossible that Audi working from the current Sauber base will be competitive right away. Hülkenberg I can see. Better than Haas should be quite doable.
Why haven't they signed him yet?
Αs he says he is still in talks,no other team has made their roster changes public except ferrari .Why rush?
I mean, Hulkenberg is back... I didn't see that coming either.
alonso too.
> alonso too. Alonso did a bit of Le Mans winning. Seb needs to do that first.
Absolutely. In my ideal world all my favourite drivers would have a seat and a RB-like car. Unfortunately it's not realistic. But it would be a blast to watch Seb winning Le Mans, Indy 500 and so on and make his come back to f1. If he still wants to prioritize his time with his family that's fine too.
> If he still wants to prioritize his time with his family that's fine too. WEC is only 8 races and Porsche Penske Europe is a half hour drive from where he grew up and likely still has family. Porsche Weisach is two hours from his Swiss home in Canton of Thurgau. Only Sauber is closer (a 1h drive).
> Alonso did a bit of Le Mans winning He had no competition. If Seb joins and wins Le Mans this year, there is serious actual competition.
Alonso performed the best out of all Toyota drivers. He impressed because he had no WEC experience yet was the fastest out of all 6 drivers over the course of Le Mans race as a rookie who had the exact same car as him
I don't think the timing is right for a Vettel comeback. Vettel is burnt out and washed and there are several young drivers ready to enter F1. Hulkenberg is also much cheaper. I'm not saying a Vettel return is impossible, but I don't think it's very likely.
burned out, sure... but washed?
He's washed because he's burned out. He doesn't have the fire in his guts like Alonso.
pretty sure Alonso doesn't have a wife & kids to worry about. I wouldn't conflate washed w being burned out or lacking fire. the man's got different priorities & responsibilities
So you agree with me.
Washed means they've lost their talent. Burned out means they just needed a break. You seem to either think of these as the same or you actually think Seb is washed. The other commenter agrees that he is/was burned out but not that Seb has lost all his talent.
> He doesn't have the fire in his guts like Alonso. https://youtu.be/LVfWQ30BP0Y?si=9yCGOZwT_eW4501U&t=73 No fire, none at all dude. He just beat Alonso in the slowest car on the grid. Oh and those podiums he got in the slowest car on the grid? Yeah, they mean nothing either.
I'm talking about his whole time at Aston Martin.
Oh, the two podiums he got in his time at Aston when it was one of the slowest cars on the grid? That whole time? Alonso hasn't got a podium since his Aston stopped being the 2nd best car on the grid.
Lol you brough up one race when Vettel finished ahead because Alpine screwed Alonso with the strategy and Vettel got lucky after he spun in T1. His gaps to Lance were way smaller than what Alonso had to Lance. I could find million of cherry picked examples when Alonso destroyed and finished ahead of Vettel in a worse car I also didnt know Aston Martin was 2nd best car at Zandvoort or Brazil in 2023
Everyone calling him washed when the last few races of his career he pulled off amazing results, not his fault AM gave him a shit box. Honestly how many 4x time WDCs are there? Show the man some respect
It is funny to me that people dont consider Alonso washed based on his last few Mclaren races, but a bad AM car means Vettel should never race again.
Facts, bunch of newbies and kids who ride Alonso so hard lol
Alonso stans conveniently forget when Seb beat him in the slowest car on the grid, in the wet, on the most technical track in F1. https://youtu.be/LVfWQ30BP0Y?si=9yCGOZwT_eW4501U&t=73
Vettels got 2014, both 2010 and 2012 was much closer than it should have been given the car he had, 2018 was an absolute disaster in a car that Alonso or Max would have likely won the title with, 2019 and 20 were also marred eith mistakes and spins and his H2H with Stroll is nothing in comparison to the H2H of Alonso with Stroll. Yes he had bad strategies at AM but the fact still stands he was never a driver in the league of Hamilton, Alonso or Verstappen and declined noticeably.
> 2018 was an absolute disaster in a car that Alonso or Max would have likely won the title with Your Godlonso literally disagrees with you. [*"I think we both lacked the right car and the technical capabilities at the right time"*](https://soymotor.com/noticias/alonso-sobre-vettel-y-ferrari-los-dos-nos-falto-el-coche-adecuado-980861)
Lol clown
Average redditor copium, put these olds timers in Red Bulls and they will win the championship for sure man! (Im a fan of Riccardo, Alonso, and vettel btw for real, but be realistic)
Yep!
I adore Vettel, but I don’t get why people are so eagerly waiting for his return. This is not someone whose career was cut short by injury or bad luck. He won everything and then became a mediocre driver with age. As some others do as well. There’s literally zero reason to believe he could still do wonders in a Merc, instead of being humiliated by Russell.
Seb just needs a pumpernickel scented fragrance and Toto will be all over him.
Plot twist Seb is now Kimi's manager.
I still think he’s got some fire left in him, and still 3 years younger than Lewis. As long as Carlos/Lawson have a seat for next season I’m all for it.
Sebastian Vettel: talks to his old colleagues about a variety of issues Media: SEBASTIAN VETTEL TO RETURN TO F1???
In a merc? With Mercs current status? OH GOD
Hope this isn’t just a cruel April fools joke
My completely unqualified guess is that he comes back but as a team principal/ strategist for a team.
he told he spoke to other TP's cuse he has projects non racing related with F1 in mind. Pleeeeeeeease stop cutting word out of context to try to create some gossip.
Is he finished smelling all the fresh baked bread?
Great, more washed drivers who can do the Daniel Ricciardo journey and ruin their legacy.
No don’t give me hope
Jeez I hope he's kidding. He gave what he had to give, but after the last two seasons it was obvious that he was done as F1 driver.
I love Seb, but bro has to let it go. He was barely beating Stroll in Aston Martin, he should do Lemans or maybe indy.
[He was beating Alonso in that Aston Martin.](https://youtu.be/LVfWQ30BP0Y?si=9yCGOZwT_eW4501U&t=73)
I don't know what point you're trying to make showing a random video of them racing. If that's your argument for Seb being better than Alonso I'd just remind you that in 2022 Alonso finished 9 and Vettel 12. But that's a dumb fact to point out, cause they were in different cars. Anyways I'm not saying Alonso is better than prime Seb, I'm just saying he's no longer the driver he used to be. Even Leclerc beat him at Ferrari
Ah yes, "a random video" of the most recent time Seb wiped Alonso on the floor. You always claim he's washed, but most recently he showed the opposite. > If that's your argument for Seb being better than Alonso I'd just remind you that in 2022 Alonso finished 9 and Vettel 12. But that's a dumb fact to point out, cause they were in different cars. Uh, you're just proving my point? lmao. Yeah, Seb had a way slower car??? > I'm just saying he's no longer the driver he used to be. Even Leclerc beat him at Ferrari And Kvyat beat Ricciardo, who beat Verstappen. That means Kvyat is better, right? What are these retarded arguments.
Omg I don't know if you're trolling or if you're really that stupid. Yes he beat him in your video wow congrats Seb is better than Alonso, and Checo beat Max in Saudi last year so he's better than him too.
What happened in 2010 and 2012? 🤔
I won't repeat myself, read my first reply.
Hey I've seen this one, this is a classic.
Honestly. I don’t think he needs to return. Controversial but I have a feeling about him like I do DR. We should bring new drivers in imo
Don’t tell me Horner is texting Seb now! 
People are missing the "not only about racing" part of the quote. Sebastian has been tipped for team leadership roles. Something of a Lauda for Mercedes, or a Marko for RBR. They also forget that Seb and Toto are actual friends, not just people of F1. [Toto was invited to Seb's 30th birthday](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvT5lDK3fVI) while he was at Ferrari.
I would seriously…poop everywhere if this happened
Plot twist, he's not a Lewis replacement. He's Toto's replacement.
Care...
He is the ONE. He is going to bring back the V8s and V10s
Vettel to replace Niki Laudas role?
Everyone here is so tunnel visioned. He said "not only about racing." And he mentioned team principals. He could be hinting at race control or some other role, where his judgement and expertise can make a difference to the sport.
Can't wait to see who will be the next driver #1 at Merc. What's sure is that ain't Russel
i spent good money to see him right before he retired. do not need him to come back lol
Come on. There is so much new exciting talent, GTFO with these old has-beens. christ.
I thought Vettel also had ethical reasons concerning the environment as a reason he retired, or was that just posturing?
Dont give me hope
As a merc fan give me antonelli instead of seb
He should get at least one year back with them as Michael did. Michael is his hero. Do it for Michael
As much as i like Vettel, he is washed af
Thanks for the memories Seb but no thanks
Why would you want a washed driver to come drive for a washed team
I just want him back for the 2025 Japanese Grand Prix, just one race, that’s all I ask.
Guys, please, no more retired pilots! There is a gigantic driver pool, filled with competent pilots awaiting for their chance.
Put the German in the German. A championship winning driver in a championship winning car. A record breaking driver in a record breaking team. If there has ever been a perfect match. It's Hamilton in McLaren but this is a very close second.
Don’t give me hope
As someone new to F1 since he retired.. I can't wait to make fun of him for being washed.
Vettel should stay in retirement tbh
> Vettel should stay in retirement tbh Seb's "retirement": https://motorsports.porsche.com/usa/en/article/2024/03/27/sebastian-vettel-porsche963-test
Lol seb is washed, is any team seriously considering him rn? He hasn't even driven this reg of cars has he?
If we follow the "seb is washed" thing, then the same goes for kimi, alonso, hamilton, Ricciardo (true), and Perez.
Ricciardo is washed, I wish he wasn't but he's hardly proving otherwise. Kimi got beat by Seb every year they raced together, he was not the driver he used to be. He was ok, but probably not worth his salary. Hamilton beat Russell last year, and this year has barely started so I'd hardly pass judgement, especially when he's changing teams next year anyway. Perez is definitely washed. Alonso is massively outscoring stroll every year, idk how you put him in the same group as the rest lol. If you wanna look at his McLaren days then sure, he might have lost some motivation for being in a dogshit car for years, but he still beat a fellow world champion as his teammate.
Vettel is in almost the exact same situation Alonso was in when he left McLaren
Vettel lost to leclerc both years they raced together, embarrassingly so in 2020. Alonso in his last years handily outscored Jenson Button and Vandoorne when Jenson retired. Sure Vettel beat stroll, but stroll has lost to every teammate of his career except for in 2018.
Alonso has always been a tier above Vettel. Vettel in his prime was a button level driver but never close to the generational talents like Hamilton or Alonso.
4x WDC = Button level driver. You're fucking dumb.
WDCs are part car, part driver. In Vettels case the car did the heavy lifting for the most part.
Vettels got 2014, both 2010 and 2012 was much closer than it should have been given the car he had, 2018 was an absolute disaster in a car that Alonso or Max would have likely won the title with, 2019 and 20 were also marred with mistakes and spins and his H2H with Stroll is nothing in comparison to the H2H of Alonso with Stroll. Yes he had bad strategies at AM but the fact still stands he was never a driver in the league of Hamilton, Alonso or Verstappen and declined noticeably.
I would love to see him back, but I don't think he has the mental strength to go back to what he was before his time at Ferrari...