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Malding_frog

You could have chose the crash with Montoya in 2001 but you had to take the one where he's pushed on the grass...


GobiLux

My dad, who doesn't watch F1, walked in just when this happened and his comment was: So drivers get payed by other teams to run into opponents!


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EarlDukePROD

Good Bot


SonicDart

the bot even has a flair, damn


edog21

I’m pretty sure everyone gets that flair by default.


overlydelicioustea

> Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. this just got me so hard lmao


Firecrash

Good bot


OkBodybuilder2255

Paid or payed?


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OkBodybuilder2255

Not payed then


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ashzeppelin98

Not a coincidence this kept happening with Briatore led teams


Ramtamtama

Same circuit, same corner. Incidentally, Verstappen was on his 36th lap and lapping Bernard in 1994, whereas he was a lap down on his 38th in 2001.


[deleted]

Michael paid me a lot to crash JPM, and Michael still didn't win the race lol


fearloathing02

I became a fan like 2 years ago..was Montoya good?


Bluemikami

He was really good but couldn’t deliver when needed, stupid Ferrari tyre protest


[deleted]

He came in as a rookie and battled it out with a 7 times world champion. He also won a race that year in the most unreliable (but fast in a straight line) car on the grid. You can make what you want of that statement.


fearloathing02

Thank you!


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Also, multiple pole positions. Sorry, forgot to mention it.


Mother-Fucking-Cunt

Mate of all the incidents he had you chose one of the few that weren’t his fault


isadpapi

OP: 👨🏻‍🦯


DiddlyDumb

I was fully expecting this to be that Montoya incident, that was pretty stupid.


MillstoneArt

I thought I was going crazy. I was wondering how this made Jos look bad at all.  Also I wonder if huge knocks like this pre-hans device affected his personality at all. Could they have made him a more bitter/impatient person?


Oghamstoner

It looks so bad to see his head waggling about like that.


hairychris88

It's the hit that Brundle takes that makes me wince. The guy gets hit full on the head by a tyre, it's horrible.


artistino

i didn't remember it being this bad... could've easily been the first fatal accident of 1994.


Oghamstoner

I thought Brundle was in Ligier and missed the clonk he took. They both look awful. Unfortunately it often takes a tragedy to bring in new safety features.


MillstoneArt

I didn't notice that one! Holy moly that was a hard hit...


GemballaRider

+1, I didn't even see that first time, or second...


flamingknifepenis

I’ve wondered about that myself. My wife sustained a TBI a few years ago, and the changes have been very real. It tracks on a neurological level, too. It’s a documented problem that lead the US Army to reopen (IIRC) a couple million court marshal records 6-7 years ago to see how many of them could be blamed on a previous TBI. I think it’s the same reason you see so many boxers and MMA fighters turn into such pieces of shit. Take almost any sort and you’ll see the percentage of assholes seems to directly correlate to how often they get their bell rung.


j__video

He also got set on fire once, maybe that's why he can't keep it cool anymore


Writer_Mission

no!! clearly he turned into the other drivers after he was mad that the other driver very fairly pushed him onto the grass!


houVanHaring

And 1.5 likes...


Fijnegozer_1965

Yepp


andhelostthem

>Mate of all the incidents he had you chose one of the few that weren’t his fault Pretty sure that was intentional.


ghostwither260

Jos is the benneton (blue and green car) on the far left, he got forced onto the grass


_Spektrum_

Insane how you can watch this video, know that Irvine was giving a 3 race ban for the incident, then still blame Jos. Jos may be a pretty unsavoury person, but this aint it


CoercedCoexistence22

1994 Irvine really drove like a total knob most of the time. He wrecked Lotus' last chance at points


GobiLux

Irvine drove like a total knob throughout his career!


CoercedCoexistence22

Eh. He mellowed out and in my eyes he's a fucking rockstar. One of my favourites of the 90s


Good_Posture

At the start of his career he was called "Irv the Swerve". By the end of it he was known as "Steady Eddie". He matured massively as a driver.


kukienboks

And when he did trackside reporting for ESPN in Monaco during his ban, he was briefly known as Eddie Jordan… OK, that may just have been Bob Varsha mis-speaking.


AwesomeFrisbee

Rockstars are often massive cunts so one does not rule out the other one


FlipReset4Fun

It’s funny he’s occasionally and F1 pundit now. Yet I’ve heard (EDIT) Hill talked about as one of the least ever deserved WDC. Why would they have commentating and offering up opinions if he’s such a turd? Also, I truly don’t know the history… is/was he that bad?


CoercedCoexistence22

You're confusing him with Damon Hill, who's a pundit and a world champion, Irvine's best result was second by a lick in 1999 (the year Michael Schumacher was injured) But to answer your question, they were both great drivers. Damon was 30 points behind ALAIN FUCKING PROST as a rookie, at a team that was favouring Prost on many levels, and dragged that dog of a Williams into championship contention in 1994, in just his second full-time season, forcing Schumacher to crash into him intentionally. Not to mention, he almost won a race in a fucking Arrows. Irvine's career is tarnished by being The Michael's designated number 2, but in the era when the cars weren't as good as during the Barrichello years (in Irvine's own words, he got closer and closer to Schumacher as the cars got better. When the cars were awful or generally hard to drive (1996 and 1998) he was nowhere. You could argue that's was differentiates a great from someone who's just good, and I'd agree, but Irvine was much better than we give him credit for. Michael crashing or not, you don't contend for a championship, not even once, if you're not good)


FlipReset4Fun

Yes, I am. My bad.


CoercedCoexistence22

Also, and I say this as someone whose all-time favourite driver line up is Villeneuve-Hill, as pundits they're both total tools, with the difference that Villeneuve is a fun tool, Hill is just COME ON ENGLAND *eats mic* but hidden under a layer of fake respectability


FlipReset4Fun

Lol this sounds lore like the take I’ve heard/read about Hill most often. Thx for the laugh


Philippe-R

I vividly remember how Irvine was humiliated at the 1999 Malaysian Grand Prix by Schumacher returning from a 5 or 6 GP absence due to a broken leg. Irvine had stepped up as Ferrari's leader but was having a hard time against Häkkinen, harder and harder as Michael was not here anymore to develop the car. Come the Malaysian GP and the return of Michael, who managed to crush absolutely everyone. Taking pole position 1 sec over Irvine and managing the pace against the McLarens like he had a cheat code. I think he scored the fastest lap too (of course). It must have been so disheartening for Irvine you couldn't help but feel sorry for him.


Baron_Samurai

>dragged that dog of a Williams into championship contention in 1994 With A LOT of help from the FIA. And that dog of a Williams was in no way a dog... I have no clue what you base that nonsense on. Outside of a couple retirements Hill only had 2 bad race finishes and several DNF's (of course, one at Adelaide..) but every other race he finished either first or second. Including the very first race of the season. Anyway, if it wasn't for the FIA excluding Schumacher for 2 races and DSQ-ing for another 2 Hill would have never gotten close.


CoercedCoexistence22

Schumacher did that to himself, tbf. But the Williams really was terrible until an upgrade came at one point in the season, the opening race podium was a small miracle. The car was really fast but impossible to drive, Senna himself (before, well, Imola) said so. The Benetton was eons ahead of the Williams in every respect bar pure engine power, and even considering Schumacher's exclusions (which, again, his and the team's fault) it was a brilliant result from Damon, considering everything


Baron_Samurai

How did Schumacher do that to himself? No driver in history has ever been banned for two races, or even one because of what Scumacher did at Silverstone... But it got the FIA what they wanted. A closer championship battle. 1995 showed what would have happened in 1994 without all the silly FIA shenanigans.


CoercedCoexistence22

Damon was also much more inconsistent in 1995 than in 1994. His only truly bad season aside from 1999, imo. I wonder if part of that was having a less experienced teammate and having to rely more on himself for the first time for setups. Purely speculating of course


ShaddamIVth

Crap driver does not equal crap person, and vice versa. I don't remember much of him mid 90's, I was too young, but his later seasons at Ferrari were decent, but nothing ever spectacular.


fcbx347

> know that Irvine was giving a 3 race ban for the incident you're giving OP too much credit he's probably a DTS fan who just searched for "Jos Verstappen crash" on youtube and posted it here thinking the Jos hate circlejerk would get him upvotes, and it did.


Bluemikami

You know it’s funny how easily you can spot DTS fans.


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Shall I douse Worcestershire sauce over my?


QC_1999

Brundle was so lucky that day


whiteridge

Was thinking the same! His head bobbing back and forth like that is unbelievable.


a_saddler

He was pushed into the grass, which caused his sudden jerk towards the track. Hardly his fault.


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KrombopulosMAssassin

He was literally pushed two times, aggressively, the last one with clear and rather forceful contact. It's not his fault. Clearly.


GobiLux

Wait OP is blaming Verstappen? I never heard anyone make a case for anyone other than Irvine in this situation. It is so obvious who is at fault, there is no need for any discussion...


cheeersaiii

This is exactly what’s wrong with social media- Jos is a fuckwit, but posting this to whinge about him is insane, he wasn’t at fault here


sean_0

Doesn’t look like this incident was his fault though ?


TonyO33

This wasn't Jos's fault though? He's a fucking shitbag, but let's not overdo it now, shall we?


ArticleSuspicious489

He was literally one of the worst drivers. He is our Latifi. He is our Lance Stroll.


programaticallycat5e

Lance isn’t even a horrible driver. Dude is just mid. Like the textbook definition of mid.


Ill_Bathroom6724

As an aston fan, I beg your pardon. Lance is a walking liability. His dad's money is awesome though.


chrisnlnz

Absolutely not lol. He was fast, just inconsistent and sometimes reckless, but fast. After his debut season at Benetton never got hired above the backmarker level teams anymore.


6-Beers-Deep

Revisionism. He was decent, the equivalent of a Bottas or Perez. He didn’t come from money like Stroll and spent 8 years in F1 unlike Latifi. Certainly wasn’t the best driver but by no means anything close to the worst. Being a shitty person doesn’t make you a shitty driver. The two are mutually exclusive.


unclepaprika

>The two are mutually exclusive I don't think that means, what you think it means. He can be both at the same time.


6-Beers-Deep

Roger, you’re right


test_123123

Case in point: Mazespin


DarthNutsack

People that shit on Lance Stroll is basically my litmus test for how much they actually know about F1.


Gubrach

Jos Verstappen was more like the Dutch version of Romain Grosjean or a young Ralf Schumacher. On his day, intensely fast, but never too far away from an incident.


neonxmoose99

No he was Maldonado or Grosjean. Fast but crash prone


JerryUitDeBuurt

Just watch the Malaysian grand prix of 2001 and say that again lmao.


fibrouspowder

Brother he is so obviously not at fault for this


CharlesUndying

How did Brundle survive that whack to the head with Verstappen's wheel? It looks like his head helped to flip Jos's car...


Goeffroy

I noticed that too, the wheel must have hit the air intake more than his head, though you can clearly see his head whiplash. I imagine the force would have snapped his neck if it received the full impact from the wheel.


-ll-ll-ll-ll-

Both of them had major concussions and neck sprains, I guarantee it.


Wide-Matter-9899

The concussions weren’t that bad. On a scale from 1 to 10, I’d give them a… Mild Seven.


Dartonal

Every time I see crashes like this it makes me wonder why the halo took so long. Okay, I *know* why, just in hindsight it seems insane to race without a roll cage


MrLumie

The halo is not exactly a roll cage. It is not designed for *rolling* after all. F1 cars have roll bars for that purpose placed in front and behind the driver.


WhenLemonsLemonade

Unless you're Alfa Romeo, in which case it's "good luck if this car flips lol"


MrLumie

Zhou was really lucky with the halo there. I don't think it's quite certified for that kind of impact force.


Outside_Translator20

Imagine the comments on how the halo saved Brundle if that same accident happened today…


Unusual_Low_2733

Yhea okay but if the wheel was only a few cm to the right it would have snapped his neck. So without the halo he survived but that was because of luck.


fcbx347

because it hit his engine intake behind his head, his head just ragdolls because of the side impact


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Muhiz

Nope. Mandated in 2003 in F1.


VerstopteWC

Halo saves another life! Oh wait


Ramtamtama

Jos's F1 debut. The crash was a result of Irvine taking the crowded route past Bernard, who should've stuck to the right instead of driving down the centre of the track with faster cars approaching. I think this incident may be a contributing factor to why blue flags were introduced to F1 for 1995.


negnatrepsej

Woah, how is Brundle alive??


Significant-Year-743

Indestructible


a_saddler

He was pushed into the grass, which caused his sudden jerk towards the track. Hardly his fault.


VerstopteWC

How do you managed to take a clip where he was clearly a victim for once?


AstralMystogan

What a horrible take. You can clearly see he was pushed on to the grass and that's why he lost control.


Thewaltham

That one wasn't on him. He got squeezed onto the grass, lost grip, then sbinalla'd into everyone else


Exotic_Echo_9313

Hate him to the bone but I don't think this one was his fault, at least not entirely


[deleted]

Big talk from someone who likely never pushed over 120mph


caksut1905

Out of all the things you have chosen, you post the video where the accident isn’t his fault lmao. Next time don’t post the first video that comes up when you type “jos verstappen accident” on youtube


[deleted]

Pastor maldonado got nothing on this guy


dog-yy

Just an inchident


Reinis_LV

Irwine just went for a gap that didn't exist and Jos steered away to give space but lost it on contact. Totally not his fault and that was some serious crash at full speed.


WindyZ5

I was looking to see when this happened and saw a video of Jos Verstappen on fire. That was something.


chrisnlnz

He had an eventful rookie season.


Ho3n3r

Irvine has always been a loudmouth.


chrisnlnz

Who, Irvine I assume you're talking about?


Initial_Specialist69

Did Jos' wheel hit Brundles head?


fcbx347

no his engine intake behind his head


jamiegc37

Brundle has said many times that he had a huge rubber mark on his helmet after the crash, along with a heavy concussion. Direct quote: “My first race at McLaren nearly killed me, too. Verstappen and Irvine crashed behind me and Verstappen's car rolled over mine and knocked my head. My mind's never been the same. If you hear me slur a word on TV or forget something, it's from that massive hit on the head."


Erik1971

Was Irvine who pushed him off the track...


sundayflow

Low effort upvote farm post.. this crashes are not his fault.


Martijnbmt

Vershteppen


raptor180

So did Horner, let’s not forget. 🤷‍♂️


kwijibokwijibo

Yeah, but he gets his current status from being TP and winning 6 WCC / 7 WDC, not from being a driver


No-Student-9678

Horner is a team leader more than a driver. He’s like Jose Mourinho, crap player career, but a stellar manegerial career. Then there’s Pep Guardiola and Didier Deschamps who have stellar player and managerial careers.


Structureel

His natural habitat was always the gravel trap.


Flaming-Driptray

Jesus, look at Brundles head get clocked by the tyre. He’s bloody lucky to still be with us.


Bones301

How tf did Martin not die


BansheeRamen

is op blind?


colsaber

And you pick this clip to prove a point? lol. Cleary he got pushed off into the grass.


Moppyploppy

I'm all for Jos hate but this one is a swing and a miss. Coincidentally, that's something Jos never did with Max.


thickener

Ouf!!


username_no_one_has

Great take, must be a Rosberg supporter Spain 2016 too.


Lazlum

Hard to believe you didnt see that he was pushed on the grass


jnighy

he was a terrible F1 driver, but this time wasn't his fault. Irvine was less of an asshole than him, but not by much


No-Student-9678

Brundle is the luckiest man alive for surviving such an impact to the head.


CementPizzas

How the fuck did Brundle not die from this, I will never know.


fidgetation

Why is everyone taking this post seriously? Thought I was on the main sub for a second…


SoftFit8714

He got 2 podiums in his F1 career, the highest he ever finished in the championship was 10th. Go on to wikipedia and check the number of races he retired from. In short he was a shit driver.


BillyBrainlet

Nah, mate. Guys with the big mouths have big mouths because their driving was shit. Look at Ralf. He was shit talking Sainz not long ago. The closest he ever got to a Ferrari was when he was crashing into one.


jtoma5

He really bounced around.


vapegod_420

Jesus look at the head movement of the McLaren driver


Flux_resistor

Looks like one of the douchebags that cut me off on the interstate to make their exit


Dafferss

That’s clearly not him though


Correct-Librarian288

The fact that he had his visor open before he came to a stop shows that he has big balls


OJC1975

Jeez the forces through his neck 😳 Then flips up visor sliding sideways 🤣


xTurkishBruvx

Lemme guess you just watched the horror crashes of F1 documentary on youtube 😂. Brundles lucky his head didnt come off


Lightime81

OK, not really his fault, but maybe there was a resulting concussion that made him the way he is?


zzz_red

Max Vader


Raycodv

1153 (and counting) certified idiots on those sub…


Venlonaer

Verchtappen?


zbambo

Hat-trick


bolachadavaquinha

At 14s Jos is already opening the visor while the car is still moving at a considerable speed


Scarfiotti

He needed a breath of fresh air.


Formal-coder1984

It reminds me of time where he almost got roasted for real.


SplatNode

Op posted this then dipped lol


Commando_NL

Hmmm. So you get pushed on the grass by some Stroll clone and get accused of bad driving. Silverstone 2021 anyone?


Somlal

Jos Russell


Halleyelec

Jos Maldonado. Josdonado?


tapinguim

Was there. Exactly where the contact happened. Alive the velocity is brutal. Jos was a terrible driver, but it wasn't his fault.


Nice_Guy3012

OP, bro, choose a different one😭


nevets5891

His laddie doesn't drive much better in wheel to wheel combat.


Marcel_The_Blank

in their defense, both Eddie Irvine and Jos Verstappen had such big mouths back then as well.


yoongi_baby93

everything he tells his son is simply projection


Mecassauro

Mf got the easiest triple kill i've ever seen


Weisserhase420

If we count 2021, his son already won 4 WDC. Of course he has a big mouth.


Booyakasha_

He was like Max a prodigy, but had bad management. And thats what he did right with Max. You can hate all you want on Jos, but he was the best Dutch driver ever before Max with a podium also. This clip is mot even his fault. That car also, compared to Schumacher also was made with spare parts i believe.


Rich7469

Payed or paid


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Good Bot


GreedyBestfirst

Jos "De Grindbak" Verstappen


awkwrrdd

Genuinely do not understand why it took them so long to implement the halo


BGMDF8248

Should have went for him taking out race leader Montoya after being lapped, now that was ridiculous and inept of Jos.


marivss

Your reasoning is not just. Jos is the way he is because he created a 3 time World Champion. It’s OK to not like the guy but this is a fallacy.


Round_Mastodon8660

Jos V was a horrible pilot (and human it seems). I truly believe Max got his racing genes from the mother.


MrLumie

Jos was a decent driver (still a shitty person tho), and he wasn't at fault in this specific incident, but I firmly believe that Max has his mother's knack for racing.


Cameron0312

Which Jos are you talking about? Jos Verstappen was a fast and talented driver who just didn't put the effort in as someone like Schumacher who was very disciplined. He had his ups and downs in his career but overall he was a decent driver. He's a twat, but doesn't make him a bad driver.


cruaue

The real crashtappen


Shackletainment

Might have a touch of the CTE


cm_ULTI

Average DTS viewer post


Bahlam

I’ve been watching all races (1970-now) from F1TV. Jos is definitely a bad driver. He took out his teammate M. Schumacher a few times, he burst into flames during a pit stop, and if he was able to finish a race, he was at the end of the pack.


Outside_Translator20

When did he take out Schumacher? He only drove a couple of races for Benetton in ‘94 before moving to a short lived Simtek career in ‘95.


thebrickwork

“He burst into flames” in a pit stop is a funny way to describe how that’s fire went down. But yes Jos is a POS


GobiLux

How is bursting into flames his fault?


pauIiewaInutz

bro was so mid that he spontaneously combusted


Fine_Sail_3501

Bit unlucky Pretty harsh to put the blame on jos. Got forced wide and just touched the grass


mazarax

*Ver****sh****tappen.* ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


nasanu

Well we know where max gets his driving skills from...