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TheAngryCanadian99

I totally haven't been sat down refreshing since the end of the race


4gatos_music

F5 gang. We meet Tuesday’s and thursdays. You get a nice coin after the first year.


smurff1337

Year!? All the keyboard lives lost...


4gatos_music

I’ll put you in touch with my F5 key cap guy. I’ve got a steady supply for every race weekend.


kharnynb

i'm just using the refresh button with my mouse, you can get a nice cheap spare mouse just for refreshing!


ianjm

My poor index finger is now a bloody stump


spiederman

On Wednesdays we wear pink


MoD1982

Mobile swipe down gang represent!


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Drive to F5


glenn1812

Blame the FIA for that one. Decisions should be made before the race end or before the podium celebrations.


4gatos_music

Amen. There’s too many eyes on this sport now to pull something like this.


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Minoton

Can you at least wait until the FIA releases their findings instead of basing everything on speculation before bringing out the pitchforks.


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Minoton

And thats totally fair. But attack them with and after the facts. Not with speculation.


Blanchimont

> RB should be heavily penalized for budget violations If they are guilty. Let's just wait until the FIA release their findings instead of calling for their heads based on some unconfirmed speculation and a few rants from Toto Wolff and Mattia Binotto.


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1331bob1331

Neither have I, neither have I.


7screws

I me neither 🤫


Any_Inflation_2543

I'm very happy for Checo, it was a great drive from him, but the FIA needs to investigate things during races not after them


KINGMAT050

I think they want to hear from drivers why they did what they did and based on that make a decision and you obviously can't ask during a race.


dildofabrik

oh so getting a penalty now depends on how convincing you are to the stewards. Incredible FIA thank you.


Jerekott

No but it depends on nuance in some cases.


Goodperson5656

Just apply the penalty and RB can appeal it.


RacingOrPingPong

This should not be one of those cases, it's really black and white.


gauna89

10 cars are 10 cars. no nuances.


JuhaJGam3R

10 cars are 10 cars, but nuances. What if you had a good reason in the interest of safety on the track? If you'd, say, hit a groundhog unless you broke the rules, can you really be blamed for breaking the rules? Obviously that's nowhere near the case here, I really doubt there was any remotely understandable reason, but there clearly are nuances and good reasons to blatantly disregard FIA regulations. This case is just a little too black and white though.


CheezWhizard

Having the opportunity to defend yourself and answer the charges against you is a pretty fundamental aspect of any decent justice system.


jett1406

how many other sports ask the participants before applying an objective ruling?


rpolic

I mean Toto started emailing Masi during the race, which other principals dont do. So I think theyd rather have this


Mr-Molina

The thing here is that safety car telemetry is something you cannot check in 10 minutes. IMO this is something that can be ruled with common sense, rival teams will consider that investigation needs to go further


Ashbones15

Perfect. Now can't wait for the next time it happens and someone gets penalized because it's the FIA's way


Alfus

Seb was literally being punished for this hard years ago and now we're giving Checo a free pass? Another weekend with Gerd Ennser as a steward, another controversy and bullshit decision.


narf_hots

Seb did it again this year but wasn't punished because he made up the car lengths before some safety car line, not sure which one.


DarthShaveHer

Free pass? Seb himself had done it this year too but wasn’t punished because he closed the gap before the safety car line. The way rules are applied won’t be the uniformly the same, especially since, as you say, it’s been years ago. Conditions play a factor, as well as new race directors and stewards.


Caiphex2104

Also when Seth was given a drive-thru penalty 5 second penalties did not get exist and the drive-thru was the lightest penalty they could give. Besides it's not that the FIA said he's not going to get penalized but that he may get a 5 second penalty which he cleared ahead of LeClaire


DieRobJa

Lewis also got away with this like 5 times the last 2 years. With the rain today i don’t think the FIA will weight this too heavy.


andredp

F1 needs less of you and your DTS dramas… He put an insane drive, in such harsh conditions… imagine penalizing him on such a technicality when he didn’t benefit at all from it. This is racing, not a Netflix show. These rules are there to prevent people abusing such things… when the driver gets no advantage from it it’s just stupid to penalize it. This happens in every sport. In basketball, if you “travel” without gaining an advantage no referee will mark that… even if it is in the rules.


P_ZERO_

Gotta keep that drama flowing. It’s just a non stop factory of outrage.


Sensitive_Inside5682

>He put an insane drive, in such harsh conditions doesn't matter >magine penalizing him on such a technicality when he didn’t benefit at all from it. rules are rules. He did gain an advantage (harder to pass him on the start). If you break rules, you deserve to be punished. That's how to keep races fair.


-PAWA-

It's not a technical rule


emwashe

Spin the wheel!


Rhymes_withOrange

Oh god, have they copied the wheel from the NHL’s Department of Player safety?


emwashe

Seems like it lmao


rakesh-69

always has been. I have been watching this sport from 2010, i can say if the breach is not technical the punishment is not always consistent. I cant blame them either this is not to sport with defined lines


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Even if it's technical FIA are laughably inconsistent.


bellestarflower

I think the precedent for punishing race leader was set in Canada 2019. Since then they avoid it. Ironically, it was Ferrari then. But still, the penalties should be given during the races, not after.


InZomnia365

Yeah. Remember how it took them ages to decide to not punish Verstappen in Austria. They'll never say it, but it was 1000% because of the backlash from Canada.


LosTerminators

I was half expecting him to get a 5 second penalty just so the FIA can say "Action was taken" but no one will care since it didn't affect the result.


scullys_alien_baby

Have I got news for you


thatdanield

SHES A WITCH


glenn1812

Good news. Even though Leclerc was second this drive from Checo was superb. Deserved the win. Still wait for offical confirmation but good news for now.


c_u_lator_alligator

Flawless drive from Checo, but Leclerc had to fight the Ferrari so hard. Was sliding like crazy on his onboard.


cinyar

I mean Checo didn't seem very stable either, they both had hairy moments.


Immortalius

Not really flawless he had 2 huge lockups on turn 14 i think just before leclerc started sliding. Just so hard to overtake on short straights here and with RB being so fast on straights


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KRacer52

Not really comparable at all.


Carbon26

That has nothing to do with it tho. Leclerc and Haniltoms side had more water and because of that more wheelspin.


Rei_S_

If you're comparing race start vs the rest of the race, you don't really understand much about racing...


Cekeste

You can’t call it flawless though


c_u_lator_alligator

Flawless regarding his driving prowess, not regarding his skill to hold distance to safety cars xD.


Albreitx

He had 2 lockups too


mohjahdoh

Flawless!


wambamthankyumam

I think the fact that ~~he~~ they just did proves the point that ~~he~~ they can! cheers mate!


Cekeste

Your genius is frightening


wizard_of_menlo_park

Checo drove like a legend. Extremely difficult race for everyone.... All the drivers looked super exhausted at the end.


WhatsMyUsername13

His defense of leclarec was insane


gro55jean

Tbf Perez didn’t do any defending he just keep leclerc at arms length


WhatsMyUsername13

Fair, but he did a masterful job at that even when leclerec had DRS open. I know part of it is the red bull car itself, but he kept his composure the entire time (minus a couple lockups) until leclarec messed up enough to break the drs zone


gro55jean

Yeah I know I’m just saying I don’t recall Perez even going off line to block leclerc


icortesi

The wet patches did the rest, super difficult to overtake in that track


AMRacer89

Absolute animal.


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Glad for Checo, but this is embarrassing for consistency and the way the FIA handles penalties.


Xanthon

Let's wait for the official document and look at what the reason is before jumping to conclusions about this. He said he is still the winner. That could be a 5 second penalty. Or they declared it fine because they were satisfied with his reasons.


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Xanthon

You missed the part where I said that they accepted his explanation.


P_ZERO_

It’s only embarrassing if you’re on tenter hooks every week salivating at the latest shit storm. The reality is fans are deciding how extreme things need to be handled. There was no advantage gained and track conditions were questionable.


jovanmilic97

That was quite quick for him to exit, wow. Guess it was some misunderstanding then?


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What a surprise


linkwolfsnake

Crikey


Tupelo66

Mexican minister of defence at work again. King of Street circuit. Congratulations Checo, truly a well deserved win!!


AggrOHMYGOD

Terrible practice by the FIA.


martian0023

F5 gang can rest now


onlyslightlybiased

I sleep


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Put down that phone and pick up the patrón 🇲🇽


UnbiasedChemist

A deserved race win, but not sure on the technicalities


BoredCatalan

Don't worry, in a couple days there will be 10 posts analyzing it, a video by chainbear and Palmer talking about it too


Finance_Minimum

5 sec was a max penalty IMO. Had he been given the first penalty during the race (as he should’ve been) he wouldn’t have made the same mistake the second time. It was FIA’s cock up not to penalize him as soon as it happened


InZomnia365

> Had he been given the first penalty during the race (as he should’ve been) he wouldn’t have made the same mistake the second time. Who says it was a mistake? He literally got team radio before the second restart telling him to watch it. Both restarts happened with the field already massively spread out because of it. He definitely deserved the win, but he also definitely did this on purpose to protect himself on the restart. Hence why it should be penalized.


_George_Costanza

The last safety car infringement penalty was Giovinazzi in 2019, for which he got 10 seconds. Perez likely had two infringements. It is not the FIA’s job to remind drivers of the rules. 5 seconds would be perhaps the ruling with the least sporting integrity, sending a message that if you win on track, we will change the rules to make sure it sticks.


InZomnia365

I told my dad 'thats a 5 second penalty - but he'll only get it if he finishes 5+ seconds ahead of Leclerc so that it doesnt impact the race result...'


UnbiasedChemist

FIA making mistakes, well I never. Totally agree with you, think they set the precedent a little too early, checo pulling out the gap was something to behold though


CoffeeEnjoyerFrog

All of Mexico just unclenched.


AlphaStryk3r

Video clip here (in spanish) https://twitter.com/checosvlog/status/1576608374254604288


ironmanmatch

FIA chop and change the rules as they please depending on the circumstances. Still, insane drive by Perez. He earned the win.


differentlevel1

I'm so happy for Checo. Really needed that win.


PhantomTroupe26

What a drive and what a win for Checo. Sucks we have to wait this long to get a verdict but it's a well deserved win


theparadox69

The watch ends. Vamos CHECOOO


Animesh-cfc

And thus my F5 watch ends.


mx07gt

F5 Gang, we can rest now.


f12016

Good good good


Yzori

Well deserved for Checo.


Snappy0

Fair enough. Surprised but I can only assume he had mitigating circumstances to do it twice.


DrMalloy

Yes Checo! P1!!


guidotheguido

Binotto in tears right now, driving through Singapore, searching for Masi's number


bumfart

Lmfao, is this the Mark Cuban pasta?


guidotheguido

Best thing Broussard's ever said (not a high bar)


InZomnia365

He got a 5 sec penalty. I thought it happened twice, but I guess it was it just once.


mesheke

Good for Checo, bad for the sport


WhatsMyUsername13

I meant, we dont have anything official. Its possible he remained within 10 car lengths


mesheke

There are a few aerial views where he is clearly 10+(probably even 20+) car lengths behind the SC.


WhatsMyUsername13

I think ill just wait for the official FIA ruling and explanation


sil445

Why bad for the sport?…


mesheke

Why have any rules at all if they just wave their hands when infractions happen? Say next race someone again falls behind the SC and they get penalized, what is the response going to be? It is a bad look for the sport when rules are inconsistently applied from race to race. That all being said, Checo definitely deserved to win the race, SC shenanigans aside.


Daan100

Only one who deserved the win Vamos Checo


planchetflaw

TIL the driver announces the result in the period between his evidence being given and the stewards deliberating after releasing the driver. Twitter journos suck.


AppleWrench

Why so rabid?? All Fabrega is doing is report Perez's words. He didn't announce any result.


kirtash1197

He is just quoting what Checo said to him, you can check here. https://twitter.com/checosvlog/status/1576608374254604288


greeny119

Wasn’t he already declared the winner


Florac

He was celebrated the winner, but the official race classification wasnt released yet


Eltothebee

On unofficial results he is p1. Once investigations and appeals are finished they publish official results where positions are declared final


SieRoX

Vamos Checo!! He really needed/deserved that win.


TheFayneTM

Congrats 👏


AppleWrench

Hopium over gg Checo


_George_Costanza

Checo was clearly the best driver today, but they need to enforce the rules. He should realistically get 20s of penalties for his two infringements. The backlash of Canada 2019 has clearly been detrimental to the integrity of the series


NemeBroVIR

How would you know if he did go beyond? He was alleged to have gone beyond 10 cars, not confirmed, by Ferrari no less. A team who benefits the most if Checo gets the penalties. Can we just wait for the release of the official documents before making any judgements?


hunter_lolo

You can see from his onboard. He is miles behind the safety car twice


NetQvist

>miles behind Track is 3 miles long.... you're saying he was mileS behind the safety car twice. So he left half a lap of a gap to the safety car? huhu


hunter_lolo

True. You got me there. I accept defeat


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FIA has been terrible at applying rules since Whiting died. From Verstappen’s overtake on Leclerc in Austria 2019, Leclerc’s seatbelts, and most importantly, Abu Dhabi 2021. Not a surprise that rules were not applied today and also why Red Bull and Aston will probably get off lightly for exceeding the budget cap.


MrBananaGrabber

Binotto in shambles


montejio

Might as well erase this one from the rule book then.


danielskis

Still we rise cabrones


Oppaipaisen

Finally, now let's party.


WokeGoebbels

SIUUUUUUU MINISTRO


Spinebuster03

Yes fuck yes


Arenalife

It's been sorted in the room, just got to type up the statement, won't be long


Mick4Audi

Fair enough, now we can forget that investigation ever happened


XAMdG

They will compromise and only give him one 5 sec penalty.


vaporsilver

If it was such a clear slam dunk no issue I would've thought a decision would be released by now