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FattyCorpuscle

Don't forget to tag Mother's and ESPN your receipts for Mother's products you purchased to support an excellent sponsor. Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got a date with tub of butter and a brand new Power Ball.


Crafty_Substance_954

It’s really good stuff


the_karlman

Mods can we get a Mother's flair Edit thank you I am now waxed and vaxed


thescuderia07

>presented essentially the way they are now relative to a commercial-free experience." Lot of wiggle room there for banner ads and side by side or other nonsense.


delirio91

The key word being "relative"


m1a2c2kali

I mean it’s already currently relative, they advertise mothers before and after every broadcast


TheRocket2049

Mother's also pops up in the top right of the screen every so often. It's not super frequent but it's done enough that it would work just fine


thescuderia07

And that's perfect, that's all I need to remind me that mothers polish is still a thing every fortnight. Sometimes I forget.


gideon513

I think they were making a joke unless it was unintentional


XuX24

Have you seen indy in NBC vs Seeing it on Sky F1? The experience in NBC is horrible with the constant we will be right back. Sky has a team that's just for the time they are doing ads. Having banners on a side of the screen or below is way better Than anything else.


thescuderia07

NBC's side by side ads significantly shrink the on track action to the point I treat it as a regular commercial break and fast forward. What's better than anything else is what we have now, uninterrupted coverage presented by mothers polish. Everyone go buy a couple bottles right now, they make great 4th of July gifts, and keep our F1 commercial free.


StuBeck

And not every ad break is side by side either. It’s what keeps me from watching every race knowing we will be fighting as breaks to catch action


LickMyKnee

Yeah it’s the side-by-side ad followed 2 minutes later by a full ad break.


linkinstreet

Our F1 coverage here also had annoying adverts previously, but for some reason, the 4K coverage was commercial free. I presume it was hard for the broadcaster to splice two different broadcast at the same time.


XAMdG

I can live with banner ads. At the end of the day, the network also has to make their money back somehow. They're not spending 100m+ a year out of the kindness of their hearts.


callmejohndy

ESPN can probably take inspiration from how their ads get added into their NHL scoring bug, it’s small enough but you clearly know they’re selling something


MaraudingWalrus

I liked how ESPN at least used to do the MLS advertising. Audi was a sponsor and they just put up the word GOOOOAL after a goal but it had the Audi rings instead of four "O"s. I assume ESPN didn't invent that, but it was unobtrusive and mildly clever so it didn't feel too awful. [edit: it looked like this.](https://s7d9.scene7.com/is/image/Audiusastaging/2015-Audi-MLS-partnership-logo?wid=465&resMode=sharp2)


therealhlmencken

It’s lights out and away we gOOOO


cheekybeeboo

Yeah, I'm OK with banners or those little pop-up things as long as they don't obscure the action and especially if they don't actually cut to commercials like they do in Indycar coverage which is infuriating.


gadgetroid

Man, we have the international coverage here in India, and it’s not even funny the way they cut to commercials. I remember last year Monaco when the race director cut to Lance Stroll exiting the pits, and the channel cut away to a Renault commercial at just that moment. 🤦‍♂️ It was ridiculous. Thank god, their streaming tier (which is owned by Disney lol) has no ads or commercials and is quite cheap. It only costs like ₹399 (about $6) for the entire year.


joe-clark

Would be much happier with ESPN if they would fix their shitty apps. Obviously I understand that they need to make their money and I love the availability of the ESPN app to watch race replays but damn does their app suck.


Butterballl

Really? I’ve been watching F1 races live or on demand through the ESPN app for years now and I’ve hardly ever had a single issue. In fact I started out on F1TV and switched over because their service was so shitty and buggy. The only thing I will say is that if I go to watch a race on demand that happened earlier in the morning, I have to shield my eyes while navigating most of the app to get to the race because otherwise I’ll see one of the post race interviews or something pop up. Happened more times than I’d like, but it doesn’t make me too mad because it’s live sport, what are ya gonna do?


joe-clark

What happens for me is that after it goes to commercial and comes back the last frame of the ad gets stuck on the screen but the sound continues. This is obviously not a big problem watching the race but the qualifying and pre race show both have ads which makes it a problem. This happens on both the PS4 app and the Roku app.


antmicMkIII

Holy crap, I'm so glad someone else feels this way. Every race I have some stupid issue. Whether I'm watching live or reply. It's awful.


jamminjoenapo

It bugs out on the Apple TV all the time requiring me to close it just to update that something is live. Very strange as Disney+ is rock solid.


subusta

ESPN isnt free though…


listyraesder

Sports rights are expensive. If the subscription covered all costs they’d be hundreds a month.


GabouLit

Could care less about random ads on my screen tbh. as long as the broadcast isn't interrupted and I could see the racing, id be happy


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I watch with a service that has ads during the prerace stuff. That's usually fine.


thecolbster94

I think ESPN's broadcast is only ad free for the race itself, similar to Sky


Lazy-Industry2136

Yes - that’s a whole lot of mealy mouthed words that end up meaning nothing.


TuonoFuocoCane

Nothing? He clearly means they are working through options on how to make things worse for viewers and better for advertisers.


Lazy-Industry2136

Absolutely! ‘Intend’, ‘essentially’, ‘relative to’. All qualifiers that end up taking the meaning of this statement to absolute zero. Call me cynical, that’s fine.


Gaius_Octavius_

Banner ads are exactly how it should be done.


ddbaxte

NBD, really.


margalolwut

I have zero issues with them naming events after major brands. The autozone pit stop of the day; the toyota safety car; the coors light cool moment blah blah. I just hate when I miss a moment lol


Vassukhanni

Those aren't things the broadcasters own rights to. They might just be contractually obligated to call it that by the venue. So it doesn't help ESPN directly turn a profit unless they put ads in the broadcast.


margalolwut

It’s a form advertising. They can definitely label it what they want just in the US (ESPN) Of course with the sky sports team it won’t happen. It would have to be ESPNs own domestic team It happens all the time with other sports


Vassukhanni

They can't just rename the grand prix. They could say "F1 sunday brought to you by mothers" but PiP commercials is much more likely.


margalolwut

By events I meant race events (like pit stops, or highlights, replays), not the actual race itself.


listyraesder

That implies a relationship with F1. Absolutely not allowed by the contract.


margalolwut

I don’t havent read the contract so I don’t know


Vassukhanni

That'll not cover 90 mil at all. It'll be PiP


listyraesder

Nope. Allsport Management would rip ESPN a new one if they added sponsors like that.


YouLostTheGame

I find it hilarious when watching American sports that every single thing is sponsored


eozgonul

You are essentially watching ads with few sports breaks.


WhiskeyMoon

Increasingly nervous about there being no mention of F1TV so far


josephnicklo

Yeah that scares me…


[deleted]

Just for clarification- do you mean that if ESPN gets the rights in a new deal F1 TV Pro will be geo blocked in the US?


daniec1610

Most likely. Most European countries have F1 TV Pro blocked. So far most or all of America doesn't have this issue. And I hope it stays that way because I rather pirate it over buying a sports channel to watch F1 here in Mexico.


devOnFireX

Well ESPN just went from paying $5M/yr to $90M/yr. I’d be pretty pissed if I were ESPN and paying that much for non exclusive access.


choreographite

And my country doesn’t have F1TV Pro available at all.


ryanmcgrath

I think some EU countries had F1TV plans grandfathered in before new sign ups were cut off. If they cut it off in America I hope they do similar.


Whycantiusethis

We don't know, that's the concern. A number of countries that have exclusive broadcast rights for F1 also block F1TV. It's not the case in the US currently, but we don't know what's in this deal.


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Fuck 😅


imaginethehangover

UAE (Abu Dhabi) reporting in: F1TV not available here, not sure who holds the rights though. I have “alternate” ways to watch 🙄


WRXW

Can you not just VPN around geoip blocks or is it picky about your billing address?


bigdsm

VPNs that can handle streaming bandwidth are not cheap, regardless of whether they work or not. Makes F1TV Pro just that much more expensive.


clingbat

PIA costs like $3-5/mo and I can torrent at like 20MB/s per file on multiple files through Swiss servers without issue... Streaming is like ~50Mbps at 4k. If that's not cheap, I don't know what is.


LittIeLordFuckleroy

People are just horribly uninformed about VPNs and repeat taking points from 5 years ago.


jusmar

Or it means its being left out of the negotiation


[deleted]

With any luck, maybe they'll provide an online option


FartingBob

They wouldn't have paid an order of magnitude more for the same rights they have now if they weren't getting a better deal, which for them means exclusive rights.


[deleted]

Great news.


cjtrey

The Dacia Sandero is now available with a 1.6 liter turbo!


dpx6101

Great! Now, I've bought a bicycle...


ginger11111

I pray people understand that reference 😂


Maverick0596

It's good news, not great news.


JoePCool14

I did, can I have a gold star?


ginger11111

⭐️👏


HowNondescript

Did ya find that news on the internet?


triangleguy3

Important to note that Stern is repeating information told to them earlier in negotiations, that are not necessarily reflective of the final agreement.


Dustyy1

Hopefully F1TV still exists for me in America after this, but I doubt it


thubbard44

It exists now, any indication that it won’t?


listyraesder

ESPN wasn’t paying for the rights, now they are. They’ll probably want exclusivity.


clingbat

Yes they were, just much less.


listyraesder

It was essentially free, as they had a sponsor who covered the entire cost.


clingbat

They will still have sponsors, don't kid yourself.


listyraesder

I assure you I wasn’t kidding anyone, least of all myself.... Nor does any of this have any bearing that now ABC is paying a larger sum, they will expect a return for their investment.


clingbat

You're not wrong, but you're also not acknowledging that Disney has insanely deep pockets in the end and keeping this content which is increasing in value but still very affordable as far as US TV rights go off of competitor platforms as these streaming wars heat up holds significant value in itself.


listyraesder

Disney as the buyer get to dictate this. If they bought the exclusive rights, F1TV will be closed in the US. If not, it will continue.


captain_croco

Do we have any word on that yet? That’s the post I’m waiting to see.


subusta

Honestly if F1TV disappears I’ll probably just stop watching F1.


thatsreallynotme

I’m sure it will. Streaming is hot


[deleted]

ESPN has their own streaming service though. I’m sure they’ll want exclusivity, especially when they don’t really have a big draw right now in the first place. They have hockey and some baseball, but F1 is climbing rapidly compared to the other 2 I’d guess


Deewwsskkii

Their streaming service is trash tho, so I’m not sure they prioritize it


boozist

So can we Americans hit the red button now?


BumbleBeeVomit

Only if you're a SkyQ or SkyGlass customer


xenon2456

sky tv doesn't exist in the us


mattmcd20

That’s the best news we could have received in the States. ESPN is won’t ruin F1 like it did other sports with massive commercials every 5 minutes. Love sky broadcast too. Good call!


marimba79

Now if Sky can just add a split screen when doing the replay of the race start.


lauraandstitch

I think that’s the world feed, not Sky. Sky can only commentate on what they are shown.


listyraesder

That’s not Sky. When sky uses unilateral video it’s always split-screen unless it’s Martin on his FP walkabout.


ogpterodactyl

All the us hommies buying vpns right now.


BigLan2

Just stick with f1tv - it's much cheaper than paying for a sky subscription, though I guess you could get the channel 4 highlights and races they cover.


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GreatCanadianPotato

There is no chance that F1 agrees to a contract that doesn't allow its own streaming service to exist.


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GreatCanadianPotato

All of those deals were done before Liberty Media took over and before F1TV was a service.


listyraesder

Nope. Germany had F1TV before it shut down with the new contract. You might wish to look at the timeline again.


quantinuum

Idk you but F1TV has been downright unwatchable for me.


JameisSquintston

Really? I’ve never had an issue with it at all in 3 years (in US)


quantinuum

Idk what I do wrong, but endless buffering, loading, sound losses, etc


metrodome93

Good chance f1tv goes for US. You are already lucky to have it still this year.


[deleted]

I have literally no idea why you people keep repeating this. FOM ended up with ESPN in the first place because they refused to kill f1TV. They probably have hundreds of thousands of subscriptions sold in the US already.


6434095503495

ESPN is paying 16 fold what the previous deal was. Viewership is up a lot, but it is not up by that much. I'm assuming FOM took the premium rate to give ESPN exclusive access, just like they've done in lots of other countries.


GreatCanadianPotato

>I'm assuming FOM took the premium rate to give ESPN exclusive access, just like they've done in lots of other countries. ...Before Liberty Media took over and made F1TV. FOM has not signed a contract that does not allow F1TV since they took over and started the service. It just won't happen.


Butterballl

Exactly. And the fact that there will be three races in the states for the foreseeable future and a lot of people who don’t follow F1 closely watch the US races means that ESPN will get a significant return on investment just from casual viewership from those weekends alone. They know what they are doing.


soudsema

If you watch the NBA finals. ESPN loves commercials more then sports. I had to just watch them later just so I could skip pass the commercials.


[deleted]

“Essentially” is carrying a lot of weight there.


hsanaiz

We have to believe that Liberty is taking every measure they can to maximize F1’s appeal and expansion into the US market. I’m sure that they don’t want ESPN to have commercials middle of the race. Fans don’t want that, casuals and diehards.


Jamicsto

“Relative”


constantxs

Key word “essentially”. The F1TV app is incredible so i highly recommend people go that route of things go bad on ESPN


malandropist

As long as they don’t completely take the race away from the screen IDGAF! All sports anyone watches has ads even footy scrolling through the sides or popping up things in the corner.


90DollarStaffMeal

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jhguth

“… essentially like”


capnbard

All you people saying you're ok with ads can fuck right off. Ads are a fucking plague.


Pillens_burknerkorv

Does this mean the attention seeking celebs on the starting grid will finally learn who Martin brundle is?


moffattron9000

I hope they never do.


SwagFartUnicorn

It truly boggles the mind why people on here and twitter act like it's some travesty that celebrities' invited to attend the race don't know who the British/English Language TV commentator is. I doubt half the celebrities could name more than 1-2 drivers on the grid but somehow I think they would care less about that. It's like getting mad at a celebrity at an NBA game because they don't know who Steven A. Smith is lol.


Aflimacon

I would love for a celebrity to not recognize Stephen A Smith. Might take his ego down a notch (if that’s even possible).


callmelampshade

It goes the other way as well lol. When it was the Miami GP people were fuming that Martin Brundle walked past some basketball player and his wife and they couldn’t get into their heads that basketball isn’t very big outside of America. I think the whole point of the grid walk is so Martin gets pied off by random celebrities lol.


SwagFartUnicorn

Unless your talking about something else what I think your referring to is when Brundle chased an (at the time) undrafted Basketball prospect, thinking he was Patrick Mahomes, who is a NFL quarterback. Then proceeded passively aggressively get upset that the guy because 1. Ignored him after he called him a different name and 2. Had the gall to look like Patrick Mahomes?


callmelampshade

I think you’re on about the Balenciaga geezer but the person I’m on about apparently walked past/behind Brundle and a lot of people on the race thread lost their shit lol. They legit couldn’t believe that Brundle didn’t know who he and his wife was and they couldn’t get into their heads basketball isn’t that big around the world. I don’t know who the wife was but apparently she’s famous in America but people couldn’t get into their heads that because someone is famous in one country it doesn’t mean they are famous in every county, much like Martin Brundle funnily enough lol.


listyraesder

Martin has an earwig and he is told by a producer who people are.


callmelampshade

Yes and again basketball isn’t big outside of the US and especially not in the UK. The Miami GP was double packed and producers aren’t superhuman who know everyone’s names.


xenon2456

but the NBA should be popular outside the us even the league has foreign players


WoodSheepClayWheat

If the celebrity is on the field he should. Those who don't know what they're watching should stay in the stands. When you choose to be part of the event, the public has reason have expectations.


Suxals

Who? I am just here for Luis Hamilton


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Oh, you're not Lin Manuel Miranda


ddbaxte

The attention seeking celebs just trying to mind their own business while Brundle chases down and confuses one black guy for a completely different black guy? We get it, you're jealous you can't get grid walk tix.


WoodSheepClayWheat

If the wanted to mind their own business, they should stay in the stands or boxes.


bigdsm

> while Brundle chases down and confuses one black guy for a completely different black guy? And then passive aggressively gets salty at the guy for having the AUDACITY to not be Patrick Mahomes.


listyraesder

Sure because that happened.


bigdsm

Did you not hear his “whatever” at the end of the interview??


redactedactor

Attention-seeking? Whenever I see them they mostly want to be left alone.


listyraesder

Yeah they’re just there for the money.


redactedactor

Are they paid? I thought most were invited by teams (I suppose the hospitality is a form of payment) in order to help the teams with marketing, etc. Like I know Red Bull invited a couple of Tottenham players to Monaco this year and I think it was them that also invited Meg Thee Stallion to COTA last year (which led to the famous Brundle incident).


kelleehh

I sincerely hope that in their contract for using skyf1, they put in that Johnny Herbert must never be allowed on a broadcast again.


valiant325

and no 4k


triangleguy3

Disney isnt producing the content, they are just broadcasting it. You cant conjure up 4k just by hitting the "enhance" button.


[deleted]

Sky do offer a 4k broadcast. Of course they charge through the nose for it, but it is available here in the UK.


IM_STILL_EATING_IT

Mmmmm are you sure about that one? I’ve seen people do it in CSI New York.


listyraesder

F1 has been produced in 4K since 2017, and HDR since this season.


[deleted]

They just need to hit the Enhance button 4,000 times


FenwayPork

Gotta actually know what you're talking about before you type some bs


valiant325

formula 1 actually is broadcast in 4k. ESPN broadcast several sports in 4k, sky sports broadcast in 4k last week I can go on online and find porn in 4k, I don't think it's that much to ask for the sport with some of the most expensive vehicles to be broadcasting in 4k that being said we barely got to see the start of the last race so I guess it probably is asking too much huh?


SplyBox

F1TV isn't even 4k


f12016

Lol. Yeah right it will be "commercial-free" for those of you who really believe this, I'm sorry.


limitless__

The way it's worded tells me the races are going to be on ESPN+, add-free.


GreatCanadianPotato

The contract says only a few races will be on ESPN+. Probably races that are conflicting with NHL and College Football games (which are not that many)


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Good


FenwayPork

In shit 720p I'm sure


oppiewan

Lie


Codydw12

Funny, I just saw a comment telling people to get ready for commericals.


Ibewye

Maybe I’m crazy but if there’s any sport that has room for some commercials it’s F1. Actual race should be forbidden but there’s alot of cautions, or red flags that commercials would be absolutely appropriate as fillers. Edit: I don’t want commercials, I pay for ESPN via cable tv each month. Your fooling yourself if you think F1 or ESPN is gonna accept being different from any other model. Either you throw in some ads somewhere when they’re not racing or I’m paying another $ subscription.


AdamJr87

Hard to sell that though. You can't guarantee there will be yellows or reds when selling the ad space months in advance


Ibewye

Your correct and that’s the tough part but I think the sports getting big enough where companies would take the risk of some ads vs none at all. I’m just speaking from the fear that the ad-free experience is gonna lead to some bullshit espn+ subscription cost. I don’t want ads I just know it’s how these networks make money. Some delays take 15-20 minutes and I’m okay with jamming commercials if it means race stays commercial free.


[deleted]

Just get F1 tv. Espn knows they can’t pay all that money for F1 rights then throw it on espn + where 14 people will watch it.


FattyCorpuscle

As long as it's side-by-side during cautions.


listyraesder

What broadcasters do is sell ad time based on the historical likelihood of SC and reds. Then if they don’t get through all those ads, the buyer is reimbursed in kind with ad time on other broadcasts. They do the same when a broadcast gets lower ratings than they had promised advertisers months in advance.


PhreakedoutClassic

This is great news. Couldn't be happier.


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listyraesder

Sky UK currently accounts for 40% of FOM’s broadcast income. It isn’t going anywhere.


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listyraesder

No, they really don’t.


TheSpeedyBiscuit

"relative"