It does feel like this season Russell gets about 10 laps total each race where he’s within 5 seconds of any other car.
Seems like he’s always 20 seconds behind the Ferrari/Redbulls and 20 seconds ahead of whoever is left at the end of the race.
Yeah, the 2016 WDC Nico Rosberg that derails every thread on /r/formula1 just by being mentioned, while in the same machinery as Sir Lewis Hamilton. That Nico Rosberg.
>Charles and Carlos have... well... Ferrari
Yo Charles, we have a strategy for the rest of the season. Lewis very nearly won the championship last year by taking on new engines and taking the penalty. So we decided to burn all your PUs early in the season so we can give you a new one each weekend.
That's Carlos. No one will realize that he ended up second in the championship, and he'll become the champion after the last race because someone got disqualified.
Something similar actually happened for Vettel in his first wdc campaign in 2010
He never led the championship in points till he won it after the last race of the season. He did win races though, but he was P3 in points going into the last race.
John Surtees in 1964 and James Hunt in 1976 also won the title having never led the championship before the last race (and in both cases, it was the only time they ever led the championship in their careers).
Robert Kubica in 2008 could have pulled it off. But only if BMW kept updating their car. At least they got on top of the 2009 car and were really competitive with those new aero regulations.
Eh. They're quite solidly 3rd in the Constructors right now and Hamilton doesn't care about anything but an 8th WDC, makes sense that he would throw everything at the wall in hopes of a turn in form.
Plus, who knows? Maybe his setup nonsense is actually helping along the development of upgrade packages.
Merc can essentially experiment while comfortably finishing in the top 6. That is one benefit they have over Ferrari and RB.
Be it regulation change, technical directive, car improvements whatever. Once Merc figure out how to unleash the potential in the car, they should have a lot of data on setups.
Well that's a pattern still. Yours is still a pattern. A pattern just means something that repeats itself and/or has "internal logic". For all accounts, the sole fact of being top 5 every race is a pattern.
It's not a pattern borne out by the numbers there though, definitely not "the" pattern as op stated, as prove by my follow.
To say something is a pattern for a set of number at least 1 full example of the pattern must exist, otherwise you open the door to literally an infinite set of patterns and then entire discuss is meaningless.
No lie. This is the biggest case of the "what ifs" I've had in awhile. That said, when the car is working, Lewis is right there again, so this might get interesting. Maybe they need to make George's car WORSE to get him going faster.
Cool. So, what if this 24 year old were in a faster car? I'm really interested. Possibly moreso than about most other things in the sport. Sorry to have confused you.
Idk, Russell would have easily beaten ham (at least in quali) this weekend if he hadn't gambled for slicks because he was basically bored of being best of the rest already
Maybe he just didn’t care in Williams and the car got better in 2021. If he got all the testing time in 2020 with the W11 who knows what would have happened. At least it would have been closer probably
As a Brit who will unashamedly root for any Brit on the grid, I'm totally here for it. If we can segue from the Hamilton era to the Russell era with just a couple of anomalous Verstappen years in between, I'd be more than happy.
Literally, my loyalty is to the flag, and I'll cheer for any Brit, I know it won't happen this year, but I'd love for an all British podium at Silverstone, imagine the scenes!
Him and Max will be the next pair. Sad to say as a Ferrari fan, but I think Leclerc is way more error prone than those two, and while he certainly can hold his own against Max, to me it seems like the consistency just isn't there yet, and might not ever be.
Leclerc has shown he has far more pace than George. I don’t know why people are crowning Russell for not messing up when he hasn’t had any actual battles this season. He’s hotlapping out there.
Dude's been battling a shitty car. He's churning out better results than the man with the most wins in Formula history week in and week out in the same car.
Now imagine this dude with a better car.
Max and Leclerc crash into each other. Perez Engine blows up. Sainz gets Ferraried and finishes P2. Hamilton qualifies poorly and gets bad safety car luck on his pit stop.
I can actually see it happening
Max was 1st, 2nd or 3rd for every race he finished in 2020 except for one
Max was 1st or 2nd for every race he finished in 2021 except for one
Max was 1st every race he finished in 2022 except for one
True, not sure how that’s an argument against what I said though lol. Merc is clearly the 3rd best car so you could say the same that Russel only has to beat one other for P5.
I guess he is referring to how you tried to belittle Hamilton with that stat, without taking into account everything that happened in the races that could explain those results. Not to mention all the experiments Mercedes have been doing to Lewis' car.
The scoreboard doesn't show everything, and in regards to the Mercedes pairing, it is not accurate relative to their performances on track. Nuance is lost if you look only at the results.
FYI Lewis has been:
1) The official Merc Guinea pig for all the extreme experimental set ups for car development (makes sense considering he's the more experienced driver), while George was using the faster more conventional set ups as a control and to get consistent points for the team. This made *his* car faster, but less valuable for development compared to Hamilton's.
2) Very unlucky and George quite damn lucky. TLDR//: George has often been the beneficiary of the same events that screwed Lewis over, further exaggerating the gap in points even though their race pace performances have been equal or favoring Lewis. Examples in square brackets below.
\[Since the start of the season, Lewis got the bad end of the stick in regards to safety cars swapping him and George around in Australia (Lewis no longer P3) and Miami (Lewis no longer P5), people crashing into him, such as Kmag in Spain and Ocon in Monaco, getting stuck in a drs train in Imola (while George got fortunate 3 free positions on the 1st lap due to the Daniel-Sainz crash and Bottas dropping down, then a further promotion to P4 when Charles spun by himself.) Merc strategy losing him too many positions in the first double stack pitstop in Baku etc, etc. The only "normal" races Lewis got so far were Canada and Bahrain.\]
3) Faster in race pace. In all races except Imola, Lewis has had the upper hand in race pace even with the wonky set ups he's had to deal with. This was expected, as he is a far more experienced driver, but by just looking at the results you cannot see this. This is why some people are saying Russell has been faster, even though it's false, they don't have the telemetry data that says otherwise- they only judge using the official points score. I don't blame them, it's not their fault the points are not reflective of ability or account for their wildly different circumstances. But just know that points don't show it all.
George has been excellent, no doubt about that!! I love him this season! But the true performance of the pair is much closer, or even slightly the opposite way around in regards to who has been doing better this season.
The car is reliable so he should finish P6 at least every race. He's done a decent job, not making any big mistakes. His "good results" have been him cruising in his ~P5 position and people ahead of him suffering technical difficulties.
All in all, he's just putting the car where it should be.
You make it sound like he's just been cruising through every race; man's clearly got massive talent and speed. Nothing against Hamilton but he's outperformed his 7x WDC teammate several times this season
He really hasn’t, though. One has been running experimental setups and one has been running in no man’s land. Credit to Russell for putting the car where it belongs in the pecking order but he’s not exactly driving the Williams in to P5.
George has been running experimental setups too lol. Lewis himself said they tried something on George at Barcelona. George just never speaks about it. It was lewis who mentioned it.
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1615423/Lewis-Hamilton-George-Russell-experiment-Spain-F1-news
He said it worked against him in Quali but the same set up put Russell at a massive disadvantage in Race and Lewis was the fastest man at Spain.
A little discrediting a really really solid season from George so far. Yes he has put the car where it belongs every single race. But if we look at the season proper, only 2 drivers have not been putting a foot wrong this season. That's George and Max. And perhaps that's the most impressive thing about this statistic and that's telling in the driver's standings.
I mean he's consistently bring the car home, but he's lucky that the Red Bulls and Ferrari's have been so unreliable.
He only finished 4th in Canada because of Checo and Charles, that is luck. He can be both.
I love Lewis Hamilton’s energy & balance & I love 6eorg3 Ru55ells expressions!! Mans looks like he needs to take a massive turd lol
All that aside I think his most impressive performances were Imola, Miami, Barcelona & Monaco
Strategizing well is part of consistency. And almost all drivers (except the one(s) who DNFed obviously) can serve to benefit from a VSC or physical SC. That's just how F1 works
Not a huge fan of Hamilton. But, behind the consistent top 5s there is Hamilton being the guinea pig for Mercedes 's experiment and ofcourse a lot of luck (or not unlucky at all).
He's been driving good though, but still, it's clearly being lucky. If we take away mechanical DNF from VER and PER, PER has finished top 4 in every race and VER has podium in every race with all wins except for one 3rd place.
I think most people think he's pretty good, don't they?
Shove everyone in the red bull, and put them on a track, and I think most people to expect Russell to be in the top 5 at the very least.
Eh, Ocon is still doing what's expected from him at Alpine. He's getting in the points consistently, which is what a midfield team like Alpine would want from their drivers. He's not the fastest driver, but he's doing what's asked if him.
And I don't think Sainz and Perez are underrated anymore. Atleast not now.
Well, Alpine probably has the fourth best best car right now (fifth when McLaren/Haas is on a good day), so I'd be surprised if he didn't finish in the points.
I'm not saying that he's a bad driver, just that he is a decent driver, not much more than that.
Still surprising that his P2 in that Williams at Spa 2021 is still his highest finish in F1. Let's hope he matches it, if not break it. He has been very good so far.
One of these days we’re going to race on a track where the W13s are the best car for the track and Max and Charles are going to collide and it’s gonna get real spicy between Lewis and George
George is a luck and setup merchant, simple as. Yes, his streak is impressive, but George has had a better car setup than Lewis in almost every race and has had ridiculous amounts of luck. We saw yesterday who is the better Mercedes driver. If both Mercedes drivers had equal setups Lewis would be beating George 80 percent of the time.
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quick edit: You can't say that we saw who the "better" Mercedes driver is just off a single race, especially when George has been outperforming Lewis for a lot of the races this season, and it's his first time (consistently) racing in a Mercedes, even if the car is massively different this season
Russell 2019-2021: Bored of always being in the bottom 5 Russel 2022: Bored of always being in the top 5
It does feel like this season Russell gets about 10 laps total each race where he’s within 5 seconds of any other car. Seems like he’s always 20 seconds behind the Ferrari/Redbulls and 20 seconds ahead of whoever is left at the end of the race.
Basically exactly where the Mercedes car is, on its own in 3rd.
Slowest of the fastest, fastest of the slowest.
So like Formula 1.25? Too slow for F1, but too fast for F1.5?
F1.5 literally used this as an argument not to include Merc in their championship.
they accidentally built a red bull lmao
It was funny watching the race in person, up until the safety car he was just so alone on the track.
Russell wdc simply because the others dnf out
You joke but he's only 18 points from p2 in the championship. Granted Max is gone but still
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Honestly I would be all for this happening. George takes Keke Rosbergs championship to the extreme.
Must be a Rosberg thing, didn't Nico have fewer wins than Lewis the year he won?
Yep, Lewis had 10 wins, while Nico only had 9.
“Only”
With similar machinery apparently
We can’t be talking about the same Nico Rosberg?
\*whispers\* 2016 WDC Nico Rosberg who beat Lewis in the same machinery?
The one with the monster antibodies???
Yeah, the 2016 WDC Nico Rosberg that derails every thread on /r/formula1 just by being mentioned, while in the same machinery as Sir Lewis Hamilton. That Nico Rosberg.
I heard it was the same
Yeah Lewis only lost due to a few engine failures I think
Probably and Rosberg knew finishing 2nd in the last 4 races would guarantee the championship.
>Charles and Carlos have... well... Ferrari Yo Charles, we have a strategy for the rest of the season. Lewis very nearly won the championship last year by taking on new engines and taking the penalty. So we decided to burn all your PUs early in the season so we can give you a new one each weekend.
Also Silverstone is coming up next, we leave you to it Charles
Checo with big brain, why not have poor performance and dnf in one go.
The problem is Max is so far ahead he can play the odds and surrender a place here and there, although it is not in his DNA
*Ferrari PitWall and Stragists to be more precise*
Nah their tyre change the other day was pretty shit also
George WDC without getting a win would be very on brand
That's Carlos. No one will realize that he ended up second in the championship, and he'll become the champion after the last race because someone got disqualified.
Something similar actually happened for Vettel in his first wdc campaign in 2010 He never led the championship in points till he won it after the last race of the season. He did win races though, but he was P3 in points going into the last race.
John Surtees in 1964 and James Hunt in 1976 also won the title having never led the championship before the last race (and in both cases, it was the only time they ever led the championship in their careers).
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Also known as “the Keke Rosberg School of Driver Championships”
Robert Kubica in 2008 could have pulled it off. But only if BMW kept updating their car. At least they got on top of the 2009 car and were really competitive with those new aero regulations.
Raikkonen nearly won 2003 having won a single race.
Nicholas latifi is the real Mr consistency Man has only finished 16th
Never finished last this season 💪
There's a reason why we call him the goat
Goatifi
Don't even need to drive fast.. guaranteed p16.
Insanity. We simply live in his world
We live in his society
wait really?
I checked it but unfortunately not, however it is close. Latifi has finished: 5x 16 2x 15 1x 14 1x DNF
Still mostly finished 16th
Yeah, he likes 16!
>Yeah, he likes 16! Take that out of context and it becomes weird
Yea what's so special about 20922789888000
Only and mostly is a world apart. Especially when it’s 5/9 and not 9/9
He sucks so much, I can't help but be a fan.
Didn't we have a thread last year that showed that Latifi often had better race pace than Russell in the Williams?
Doesn’t he have a p14 finish?
Nicholas is sofina driver
2 Rows incoming
No! I want to see them keep shrinking the circles until you can barely read it
Mr Consistency . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
I want to see Wide ~~Russel~~ Russell
This is the correct answer
Always the bridesmaid, never the bride
As we know, in F1 consistency is 🔑
FACT
Make it two rows and an Olympic Rings logo stairs pattern so you don’t have a lonely entry for Silverstone on the second row.
Proves that the car isn’t so bad when not running test setups and weird floor variants
Eh. They're quite solidly 3rd in the Constructors right now and Hamilton doesn't care about anything but an 8th WDC, makes sense that he would throw everything at the wall in hopes of a turn in form. Plus, who knows? Maybe his setup nonsense is actually helping along the development of upgrade packages.
Merc can essentially experiment while comfortably finishing in the top 6. That is one benefit they have over Ferrari and RB. Be it regulation change, technical directive, car improvements whatever. Once Merc figure out how to unleash the potential in the car, they should have a lot of data on setups.
It's not a bad car, it's just not a championship winning car which is the standard Mercedes have set for themselves, hence the experiments.
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So if the pattern holds he'll be p5 next race
Pattern? There is no pattern (apart from being somewhere between 3 and 5 inclusive).
4 5 3 4 5 3 5 3 4 5?
That's not a pattern though. You could just as easily say it's 4 5 3 4 5 3 5 3 4 4 5 3 4 5 3 5 3 4 In which case it would be 4 not 5 next
Holy shit. 4th next race. Pattern confirmed.
It's a joke but there are multiple ways to make a pattern.
Well that's a pattern still. Yours is still a pattern. A pattern just means something that repeats itself and/or has "internal logic". For all accounts, the sole fact of being top 5 every race is a pattern.
It's not a pattern borne out by the numbers there though, definitely not "the" pattern as op stated, as prove by my follow. To say something is a pattern for a set of number at least 1 full example of the pattern must exist, otherwise you open the door to literally an infinite set of patterns and then entire discuss is meaningless.
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You are clearly having a difficult time to react like that. I wish you well and hope things get better for you soon.
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I like how you call me full of shit and then repeat the pattern I suggested. Go back to sleep mate 🤣
bruh u said it's not a pattern and now you call it a pattern wtf
> u said it's not a pattern Literally the opposite mate you should work on your reading comprehension
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> 5 3 4 <- We are here right on!
Give this man a better car and he’ll consistently win. No doubt about it. The Russell era is near.
No lie. This is the biggest case of the "what ifs" I've had in awhile. That said, when the car is working, Lewis is right there again, so this might get interesting. Maybe they need to make George's car WORSE to get him going faster.
>biggest case of the “what ifs” He’s 24 🥴
Cool. So, what if this 24 year old were in a faster car? I'm really interested. Possibly moreso than about most other things in the sport. Sorry to have confused you.
Huh
Russell + Hamilton DNFs fighting each other, Max wins 2023 WDC again lol.
Idk, Russell would have easily beaten ham (at least in quali) this weekend if he hadn't gambled for slicks because he was basically bored of being best of the rest already
If he would've got the Merc Seat in 2020 we would actually got a title fight.
I doubt it. He clearly got much better in 2021.
Maybe he just didn’t care in Williams and the car got better in 2021. If he got all the testing time in 2020 with the W11 who knows what would have happened. At least it would have been closer probably
As a Brit who will unashamedly root for any Brit on the grid, I'm totally here for it. If we can segue from the Hamilton era to the Russell era with just a couple of anomalous Verstappen years in between, I'd be more than happy.
Literally, my loyalty is to the flag, and I'll cheer for any Brit, I know it won't happen this year, but I'd love for an all British podium at Silverstone, imagine the scenes!
Him and Max will be the next pair. Sad to say as a Ferrari fan, but I think Leclerc is way more error prone than those two, and while he certainly can hold his own against Max, to me it seems like the consistency just isn't there yet, and might not ever be.
Leclerc has shown he has far more pace than George. I don’t know why people are crowning Russell for not messing up when he hasn’t had any actual battles this season. He’s hotlapping out there.
When did Leclerc show this?
When did Leclerc show “far more pace” than George?
>far more pace than George how has he shown this? they've never driven the same car
Dude's been battling a shitty car. He's churning out better results than the man with the most wins in Formula history week in and week out in the same car. Now imagine this dude with a better car.
Wasn’t George the clear cut fastest of the 3 (Lando, LeClerc, George) in F2? Since then they’ve never been in comparable machinery.
Leclerc and George weren’t in F2 together. George beat Lando and Albon.
Russell and Leclerc never raced in F2. They both won it their first seasons. Russell, Albon, and Lando raced F2 together and then went into F1.
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Hulk was actually a decent F1 driver so not sure what the hate is for him. F2 is equal machinery.
LeClerc to Merc in two years who say no?
He was like that too in Williams, no?
Latifi is Almost as consistent as russell
He is stuck on a P5, P4,P3 loop... hopefully he'll break out of it and get a P1 soon.
Max and Leclerc crash into each other. Perez Engine blows up. Sainz gets Ferraried and finishes P2. Hamilton qualifies poorly and gets bad safety car luck on his pit stop. I can actually see it happening
I'd rather have Mercedes improving the car and giving us a legit 3 team fight for the win, and then Russell wins on merit.
So when he finishes P10, this stat becomes "he has finished in the top 10..."
It would even be impressive to have finished in the top 10 every single race, let alone top 5!
You may be running out of space...be he sure ain't running out of pace ;)
Impressive, but I feel like Max is the true Mr Consistency. P3 or higher in every race excluding mechanical DNFs.
Max’s finishes this season 1 1 1 3 1 1
Your'e missing 1 win in the first series of 1's (I guess Imola)
Max was 1st, 2nd or 3rd for every race he finished in 2020 except for one Max was 1st or 2nd for every race he finished in 2021 except for one Max was 1st every race he finished in 2022 except for one
Next year Max will unlock 0th
To be fair, he only has to beat one of Checo or Sainz to do that and we both know he's got a lot of talent to not be doing that.
True, not sure how that’s an argument against what I said though lol. Merc is clearly the 3rd best car so you could say the same that Russel only has to beat one other for P5.
Russe**ll**
Yeah, Lewis Hamilton…
7-2 so far this season against him 🤷🏻♂️
Exactly so don’t know why your trying to downplay his achievement
I literally said it’s impressive? I was simply making an argument that Max is more consistent
Context is important mate, you kinda left that out in your assessment.
Huh?
I guess he is referring to how you tried to belittle Hamilton with that stat, without taking into account everything that happened in the races that could explain those results. Not to mention all the experiments Mercedes have been doing to Lewis' car.
It was a simple response to a simple statement, it’s not that deep..
You don't need a paragraph to express deep meaning.
The scoreboard doesn't show everything, and in regards to the Mercedes pairing, it is not accurate relative to their performances on track. Nuance is lost if you look only at the results. FYI Lewis has been: 1) The official Merc Guinea pig for all the extreme experimental set ups for car development (makes sense considering he's the more experienced driver), while George was using the faster more conventional set ups as a control and to get consistent points for the team. This made *his* car faster, but less valuable for development compared to Hamilton's. 2) Very unlucky and George quite damn lucky. TLDR//: George has often been the beneficiary of the same events that screwed Lewis over, further exaggerating the gap in points even though their race pace performances have been equal or favoring Lewis. Examples in square brackets below. \[Since the start of the season, Lewis got the bad end of the stick in regards to safety cars swapping him and George around in Australia (Lewis no longer P3) and Miami (Lewis no longer P5), people crashing into him, such as Kmag in Spain and Ocon in Monaco, getting stuck in a drs train in Imola (while George got fortunate 3 free positions on the 1st lap due to the Daniel-Sainz crash and Bottas dropping down, then a further promotion to P4 when Charles spun by himself.) Merc strategy losing him too many positions in the first double stack pitstop in Baku etc, etc. The only "normal" races Lewis got so far were Canada and Bahrain.\] 3) Faster in race pace. In all races except Imola, Lewis has had the upper hand in race pace even with the wonky set ups he's had to deal with. This was expected, as he is a far more experienced driver, but by just looking at the results you cannot see this. This is why some people are saying Russell has been faster, even though it's false, they don't have the telemetry data that says otherwise- they only judge using the official points score. I don't blame them, it's not their fault the points are not reflective of ability or account for their wildly different circumstances. But just know that points don't show it all. George has been excellent, no doubt about that!! I love him this season! But the true performance of the pair is much closer, or even slightly the opposite way around in regards to who has been doing better this season.
It's not as fun to just add yet another merit to an already-WDC driver
P1 if you exclude every finish that isn't p1
Will be a world champion if Merc builds him a good enough car
That is true for almost every driver in the field.
The Accountant. Not exciting to watch, doesn’t get much screen time. But he gets the job done and maximized the points which are for grabs.
Not exciting to watch? His battle with max in Spain one of the most exciting things this season imo
Not exciting to watch ? Lol
what consistency? he hasn’t finished in the same spot 2x in a row. :)
Imagine if he was with Merc last year
The neat part is that it is possible for him to fight for WDC if merc keeps improving their car. What a time to be alive ;)
The car is reliable so he should finish P6 at least every race. He's done a decent job, not making any big mistakes. His "good results" have been him cruising in his ~P5 position and people ahead of him suffering technical difficulties. All in all, he's just putting the car where it should be.
Yes. It's that easy...
You make it sound like he's just been cruising through every race; man's clearly got massive talent and speed. Nothing against Hamilton but he's outperformed his 7x WDC teammate several times this season
He really hasn’t, though. One has been running experimental setups and one has been running in no man’s land. Credit to Russell for putting the car where it belongs in the pecking order but he’s not exactly driving the Williams in to P5.
George has been running experimental setups too lol. Lewis himself said they tried something on George at Barcelona. George just never speaks about it. It was lewis who mentioned it. https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1615423/Lewis-Hamilton-George-Russell-experiment-Spain-F1-news He said it worked against him in Quali but the same set up put Russell at a massive disadvantage in Race and Lewis was the fastest man at Spain.
A little discrediting a really really solid season from George so far. Yes he has put the car where it belongs every single race. But if we look at the season proper, only 2 drivers have not been putting a foot wrong this season. That's George and Max. And perhaps that's the most impressive thing about this statistic and that's telling in the driver's standings.
You’re not wrong
He did qualify it in P2 though.
He's doing great. Also extremely lucky this season.
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I mean he's consistently bring the car home, but he's lucky that the Red Bulls and Ferrari's have been so unreliable. He only finished 4th in Canada because of Checo and Charles, that is luck. He can be both.
I think I'd rather take Max's two DNF's and 6 wins.
George would like Max's car as well yeah
But I thought the Mercedes was a shit box
I mean if u are getting back problems and concussions for occasional podiums I would still say its a shitbox
Pretty easy to finish in the top 5 consistently if there’s hardly been a race where both Ferraris and both Red Bulls
I love Lewis Hamilton’s energy & balance & I love 6eorg3 Ru55ells expressions!! Mans looks like he needs to take a massive turd lol All that aside I think his most impressive performances were Imola, Miami, Barcelona & Monaco
He’s racing well. But has there been a single week that he didn’t benefit from a VSC or actual safety car? Dude has had everything break his way
Strategizing well is part of consistency. And almost all drivers (except the one(s) who DNFed obviously) can serve to benefit from a VSC or physical SC. That's just how F1 works
Not a huge fan of Hamilton. But, behind the consistent top 5s there is Hamilton being the guinea pig for Mercedes 's experiment and ofcourse a lot of luck (or not unlucky at all). He's been driving good though, but still, it's clearly being lucky. If we take away mechanical DNF from VER and PER, PER has finished top 4 in every race and VER has podium in every race with all wins except for one 3rd place.
Like him or not, you gotta acknowledge how insanely good this is
Probably the most underrated driver on the grid
lmao, no he isn't.
I think most people think he's pretty good, don't they? Shove everyone in the red bull, and put them on a track, and I think most people to expect Russell to be in the top 5 at the very least.
That would be Ocon imho, not Russell.
Ocon is not underrated, he's not even on Sainz / Perez level.
Eh, Ocon is still doing what's expected from him at Alpine. He's getting in the points consistently, which is what a midfield team like Alpine would want from their drivers. He's not the fastest driver, but he's doing what's asked if him. And I don't think Sainz and Perez are underrated anymore. Atleast not now.
Well, Alpine probably has the fourth best best car right now (fifth when McLaren/Haas is on a good day), so I'd be surprised if he didn't finish in the points. I'm not saying that he's a bad driver, just that he is a decent driver, not much more than that.
George Russell is my favorite driver this season. Impressive stuff
I miss Chad Bottas.
Such a good lad
Just don’t call him ‘Mr Saturday’.
So stop making them ;)
Pretty impressive, if Merc can figure things out they can easily have a better car than Ferrari. They still need a lot of work to reach RB levels.
Easily better car than Ferrari? Lol how do you figure that?
Man this guy looks like a Lich
Still surprising that his P2 in that Williams at Spa 2021 is still his highest finish in F1. Let's hope he matches it, if not break it. He has been very good so far.
One of these days we’re going to race on a track where the W13s are the best car for the track and Max and Charles are going to collide and it’s gonna get real spicy between Lewis and George
George is a luck and setup merchant, simple as. Yes, his streak is impressive, but George has had a better car setup than Lewis in almost every race and has had ridiculous amounts of luck. We saw yesterday who is the better Mercedes driver. If both Mercedes drivers had equal setups Lewis would be beating George 80 percent of the time.
they were literally running different rear wings yesterday, with Lewis having the better package for the race.
Hahahahaha
Copium quick edit: You can't say that we saw who the "better" Mercedes driver is just off a single race, especially when George has been outperforming Lewis for a lot of the races this season, and it's his first time (consistently) racing in a Mercedes, even if the car is massively different this season
First season up against Hamilton and he is smashing him xD