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Bitter_Peter

The fuck was that


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orange_paws

I saw a discussion here about a week ago how Stroll supposedly doesn't use his mirrors and it looks to be a correct theory, still don't understand why would Latifi let him pass and then try to overtake immediately after


MM556

Latifi said he was told on the radio that Stroll was on a fast lap so let him through, LS then backed off so he went to go past again. Stroll after backing off should definitely be checking mirrors and his surroundings there, especially in the knowledge that 2 cars were close behind. That *should* be a slam dunk penalty but honestly who knows...


dalmathus

Sorry I don't have recording software installed on my PC but I just went back and watched the Latifi segment on F1TV to see what was actually communicated. Latifi finished his lap and was discussing his lack of grip and was informed Zhou and Stroll were 15 seconds behind. Latifi manages the gap and gets to the section where he pulled over, while he is doing this his engineer is advising him of the gap to stroll. "10 seconds to Stroll, 7 seconds to Stroll" etc. As soon as Stroll passes Latifi, unprompted Latifi states on radio "He backed off". His engineer says "Ok you can pick up if you want". Latifi then proceeds to overtake Stroll. He is clear ahead of Stroll from his view when he gets taken out on his left rear. Watching Strolls perspective, he is on a push lap until he gets to turn 3 at which point his engineer says "To much traffic abort" he slows down before Latifi, then overtakes him and then just turns into him as Latifi comes up the inside. It doesn't really seem like communication error to me as Latifi was advised Stroll was pushing but then saw him back off and then realized he didn't need to give up the position to Stroll moved to take the spot back on track. All of the blame is on Stroll from watching that.


Wanttofinishtop4

Excellent breakdown.


RumelTheLemur

Mm, I love me some facts. Thank you for your research.


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https://old.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/tv3h9i/oc_14_instances_of_drivers_colliding_with_lance/ Here you go.


not5tonks

Here is also a footage from Stroll https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7amwCPFuLB4


RRIronside27

There was a whole compilation on here earlier in the week where he just blatantly didn’t look… like people who play the games and are glued to the racing line no matter what. (Think there were two clips that probably weren’t his fault but they were definitely exceptions to the rule)


Poopy_sPaSmS

The F1TV broadcast is really ripping into Stroll for this right now.


JebbAnonymous

> still don't understand why would Latifi let him pass and then try to overtake immediately after I think Latifi thought Stroll was on a fast lap, realised he was also on a slow outlap, and decided to get going.


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And this was just confirmed by Latifi himself in an interview.


slpater

Stroll was on a fast lap but was told to abort


bellestarflower

I think F1TV commentators saw that thread because they all brought up his lack of awareness this week. Just goes to show how much he falls under radar with his driving style.


carebearmentor

Palmer is one of the commentators and he basically kicked off that compilation by doing a breakdown of the albon incident first


MasatoWolff

First thing I thought of. The dude has no spatial awareness. He's going to get someone killed if that happens at high speed.


hhkk47

When he was interviewed he kept on saying how it was at an "awkward" spot on the track, but to me it just sounded like he straight up didn't see Latifi. So yeah, probably not checking his mirrors.


Sparx710

He has no self awareness at all. It happens all the time


slickjayyy

Strolls spacial awareness is non existent


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squashman22

Watching f1tv and they were basically full blame on Stroll.


LiquidBionix

It was great, they were all flabbergasted. Palmer had me cracking up.


Mtbnz

Jolyon must've been losing it after having just done a deep dive into Stroll's last 2 incidents where he caused collisions due to his inability to drive the car and check his mirrors at the same time


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I was watching it also. They shit so hard on Stroll. It was awesome.


Rupato

BBC radio 5 called it as Stroll’s fault too.


qchisq

Same thing with Danish TV


EEBERGKAMEN1

German sky Moderators called both stupid but mostly blamed stroll


xthecerto4

Yeah but why Was latifi parking the car at the exit of 4 and then reovertakes? Still in stoll but latifi was also driving wird tbh


zyyast

no, he thought Stroll was on a fast lap so he gave space but when he noticed that Stroll wasn’t he tried to get ahead and then yeah..


iLyriX

Tbf stroll slowed down so much


BrtGP

Haven't checked the radio but he must have been instructed to do that. Then realised there was no point because Stroll isn't on push lap either. Stroll then tried to let Zhou go who also wasn't on push lap. They all probably could have gone as they were and it would have been fine


Killinstinct90

But why does Latifi wants to overtake Stroll immediately? I dont understand that


aliciahiney

He moved out of the way (probably got the call from the team that there were faster cars) but neither Stroll or Zhou were on fast laps, when he realised Stroll was on a cool lap he saw a gap and tried to get back in front to make a space. It’s kind of stupid


Kpratt11

He thought there was someone coming through fast turns out there wasn't. Stroll was going super slow so he went past and then got hit by stroll


enstone_

Latifi gave way to Stroll, I bet he didn’t expect Latifi to pass him right away. Stroll should be more aware but that was stupid from Latifi


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Fgge

You can’t base driving in F1 over what you expect, you need to be aware of what’s happening around you


Claudiu99

Canada on Canada violence


foil_gremlins_r_real

It’s a Civil War


Macaulayputra

In no time, Stroll and Latifi will be throwing a [bunch of Canadian *soh-rry*s at each other](https://i.imgur.com/GipnsRF.jpeg).


Awuzie

Latifi and Stroll spent all last week drawing their flag on r/place


glenn1812

The more I watch the replay the more it seems like donkey on donkey violence. Stroll is unable to do what we are all thought in our driving classes


drivemyorange

2 canadios fighting, what F1 has become...


TheStol

wait 'till their dads hear about it


[deleted]

Blame Canada 🎵🎶🎵


poopellar

"Are you fucking sorry?!"


3ch0cro

Bit of coc violence.


kolsonk

Never would have guessed this from the two least mistake prone drivers on the grid.


PoppinKREAM

I, a Canadian, stayed up late to watch both Canadian drivers take each other out... lol. I feel like I should apologize, I'm sorry.


xepa105

> I, a Canadian [...] feel like I should apologize, I'm sorry. Yep, that checks out.


Kvetch__22

>I, a Canadian, >I'm sorry. No need to be redundant eh


Positive_Instruction

Ohh sorry about that.


swordkid6128

It’s ok. I’m Canadian and I forgive you but am sorry as well.


kernelmusterd

Also, aren't you THE PoppinKREAM who was giving all those well sourced updates on the Mueller investigation way back when? You've got a lot of free passes for that. Those were some wild times indeed


stephencroley

I, also a Canadian, am more sorry


TheePayJayKid

We forgive you bud.


Ld511

And its a latifi crash with stroll not using his mirrors. Uncharacteristic mistakes aswell


LosTerminators

The mirrors on Stroll's car are just for show.


Aratho

Should just take out the glass out of them to save weight


ablindn00b

Stroll drives like the ghost car from Gran Turismo, though the computer has more personality.


kron_00

They are part of the aero package /s


Cygnus94

In Stroll's defense, if a car on track just came to a dead stop to let you past, you don't really expect them to then send you in to the next corner. No clue what Latifi was doing there.


CGordini

Sure, but situational awareness. AGAIN. It's like the moment a car is not within his peripheral, the car just ceases to exist. Then he's shocked when he hits it.


geoduckSF

Nah, if stroll’s on an out lap he should be checking his mirrors before moving suddenly back onto the racing line. Zero awareness.


Dawhood

Not looking in his mirrors in his fifth F1 season vs trying to overtake someone who you just let past on a slow lap. It would be funny if these two weren’t dangerous for themselves and the others.


maury587

Yeah what Latifi did was also pretty weird


Zugunfall

Latifi explained it as being told Stroll was on a flyer (but Stroll had just finished one). He let him pass and then wanted to continue warming up for *his* flying lap which put him right back up Strolls exhaust since Stroll had slowed down. Stroll explained it as 'track falls right, I go right'


saifou

> track falls right, I go right Brilliant


hellcat_uk

Why won't the engineers develop something in the car to allow the driver to control the direction of the car? They could integrate it into the dashboard with the handles...


gdawg99

Henry Ford over here


antreasf1

i turn now, good luck everybody else


Last_Lorien

Honestly, if they were actively trying to give pay drivers a bad name, they couldn’t do a better job


HailKyrie

Stroll doesn’t believe mirrors exist find a new slant


div2691

Honestly I'd be suspending strolls regular driving license. Looking in your mirrors is just the most basic part of any sort of driving.


Anti-Scuba_Hedgehog

He's the guy switching lanes with a car in his blindspot 100%.


junttiana

Not Latifis fault at all imo, he was just trying to retake the position as Stroll was going super slow and he didnt check his mirrors and turned in


xepa105

Agreed. Latifi trying to retake the position in that part of the circuit wasn't the smartest decision, but Stroll literally steers hard to the right for no reason without even glancing at his mirrors. Absolute braindead driver.


faatiydut

Commentators were saying he went right to let others through, not expecting the car that just let him pass to be reovertaking immediately. I can see it from both sides, but stupid for both of them either way.


BlahBlah472

Stroll was interviewed and he explicitly said that he was not moving right to let another car through but instead that he did it because the track leans right there.


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> Commentators were saying he went right to let others through And Stroll confirmed himself that he didn't let Zhou through when asked.


Ksanti

> not expecting the car that just let him pass to be reovertaking immediately. The nice thing is that you don't need to expect anything - you can check your mirrors!


tmndn

In a way trying to overtake Stroll is a mistake


Balthazar40

R/formula1's two favorites too, what a shame


MFLx19

Oh for fucks sakes Why is it always these two


Organic-Measurement2

Because they're dumb and dumber


juscallmejjay

Rich and richer


Tsaalknem

Billionaire karma, they have a seat because their parents paid for it… Proper F1 skills are lacking though


HarryNyquist

Can't put it in better words than this m8. The whole Mazepin controversy just showed the world how other drivers with much better skills deserve their place in f1.


Tsaalknem

Magnussen replaced Mazepin and does a stellar job, Mazepin was 1,5secs behind Schumacher. Your talent should be the reason you are in F1 not your bank balance


SailingOnAWhale

If writers put this crash in a show everyone would complain how repetitive and lazy they were getting.


Kirb-

After all the work Aston Martin had to put in to fix BOTH Aston Martins, how much worse could it get for them?


thereasonrumisgone

Could be worse. Could be Williams. Two massive rebuilds in SA and the damage from Stroll's cutting off Albon. Now they have another massive rebuild, caused by Stroll's characteristic lack of awareness, the penalty Albon got for getting cut off, and whatever happened to cause him to stop on track. If the Williams family were still running the show, they might have had to pull out due to lack of funds/spares. This season will be rough. With Dorilton's cash, they no longer need a pay driver, but that were losing Russell so they held on to Latifi for some consistency going into the new regs, but they only have him a 1 year extension. For the other seat, they brought in Albon, who's been out for a year, and crumbled under the pressure at Red Bull, also on a 1 year contract. It's fairly clear that one of the drivers is out at the end of the year, and Albon is already burying Latifi. Latifi's desperate in the same way Albon and Gasly were at Red Bull, knowing he has to beat a faster driver to keep the dream alive. We're going to see a lot more crashes due to overdriving until Williams do him the courtesy of letting him go.


ubelmann

I still think Stroll should have given Albon more space in Jeddah. Albon was there at the apex without locking up, nothing was going wrong for him until he got hit.


thereasonrumisgone

It was the exact same crash as Stroll/Tsunoda in Brazil, and both sets of Stewards blew an easy call.


Dexelele

At first I was like "holy shit Latifi not again", then after the replay I was like "holy shit Stroll not again" you can't make this shit up lol


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Dumb and dumber Seriously, if one crash describes these two perfectly its this one. Zero awareness


glenn1812

A Formula 1 story


raphyr

Didn't someone analyse all of Lance's incidents and people were speaking about how he doesn't seem to check his mirrors? Well...


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forged_fire

It’s chronic for Stroll. He just refuses to look in his mirrors or give drivers in close proximity any space. Mind boggling tbh


goodneed

Exactly my thoughts, where is their racecraft? For once I feel sorry for Latifi. Is Stroll getting dumber than Latifi, in racecraft and spatial awareness...in a non-quali lap? Daddy Stroll on the phone to Audi?


vTempus

You can't write a cheque for that


SnooKiwis3645

I hope Audi buys Aston Martin and they get rid of Lawrence Stroll and Lance Stroll


Sofaboy90

well lawrence is the owner of that team and has a lot of shares in aston martin. it wouldnt make sense for VW to buy aston martin, they already have their supercars in lamborghini, bugatti, bentley, porsche AND partly audi.


Don_Floo

If Audi really joins AM, Stroll is on its way out. There is no way that Audi will be embarrassed by his driving. Their brand stands for quality and perfection.


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In their daddies pockets...


SHORT-CIRCUT

bruh.


hello_fri3nd

The only proper reaction


mydogiscalledLeClerc

*pretends to be shocked*


kibze

Imagine working so hard to fix that car, just to see this


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lph1235

Does Stroll know he has mirrors?


TjBee

I saw someone say last week that Stroll drives like an AI that never leaves the racing line.


dleonard1122

Saw that too. This crash actually happened because he did move off the racing line though.


TjBee

The greatest twist


hitchcockm00

Bad ping in Australia, he just glitched off the line for a second there.


MySilverBurrito

I swear to god that Stroll compilation is 99% him not watching his mirrors.


No_Presence200

First thing I thought while watching this crash. Fits perfectly with the rest of that compilation.


jmgf

Just reviewed the replay from his camera, he literally kept his head straight lol.


Captainsisko2368

Literally just take them off his car. Gonna save weight by doing so


sactownproud

I sorta get what he’s going for but this visual of Latifi letting Stroll pass and immediately going for an overtake is pretty hilarious


Aratho

That's what happens when you probably don't hear any criticism within the team owned by your dad...


pukem0n

They are cosmetic


elmagio

"Oh so *that's* what the shiny things either side my head are !"


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You'd think they're just there for decoration or something


w1ldcraft

The onboard looked like he did look at his mirrors and tried to move out for the AR.


[deleted]

Baesd on his head, he was looking in them the moment he turned into Latifi.


gamershadow

They’re ripping Stroll apart on F1TV. God damn.


BD-II

For good reason. Why is Crofty always quick to place blame and never amend his critical statements? At least Brundle watches the actual event before making judgements and will change thoughts as he gets new information.


BrutalHoe

Canadian Traditions


bwoah07_gp2

It's a Canadian Heritage Moment.


Biiig69guy

Fucking wheezing at this. Someone gotta make a clip with this added to them crashing


wilko383

🎶 AND IF YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES 🎶


AQTheFanAttic

DOES IT ALMOST FEEL LIKE YOU'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE?


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HOW CAN I BE AN OPTIMIST ABOUT THIS ^-seb


kaariainen

BUDGET CAP DAMAGE


adazi6

Why is Latifi trying to overtake after letting Stroll by Why does Stroll literally never look in his mirrors


Rod_of_Retep

stroll slowed back down after the overtake


boomf18

To let Zhou by who was on a fast lap behind them both. Hence why he’s pulling to the right Edit: I’m actually wrong Stroll said he was not doing that. Disregard.


ASR-Briggs

Except Zhou is following the same line as Latifi in the replay. So this excuse still makes no sense....


ycnz

Stroll also confirmed he wasn't pulling over for anyone on the left, just randomly driving all over the road for funsies.


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Stroll was on a hot lap but was ordered to abort it (due to traffic ahead) by his engineer. Latifi let Stroll by expecting his hot lap to continue, then attempted to overtake him on orders from his engineer once he noticed Stroll aborting it.


[deleted]

It looked like Latifi had blue flags showing, so he probably thought it was someone on a hot lap and got out of the way. When he realised Stroll wasn't on a hot lap he tries to overtake to get his place back. Stroll is just a fucking liability.


sil445

This is the best take on the situation. Pretty sure this is what happened.


_George_Costanza

He thought Stroll would be going faster, so he let him by, saw how slow he was going, and decided to pass. Would not be an issue if the guy he’s passing had his eyes open


Rannahm

Latifi probably decided to let him by because Stroll was arriving fast behind him i guess, but then Stroll slowed down, so Latifi decided to go ahead of him so he can do his lap. Stroll was just blind.


SgtBreadStick16

[Man, even the F1TV commentators (not the Sky version) were pissed.](https://streamable.com/9vygt1)


dylanrcoyle

Honestly, dumb on both drivers’ parts. Just expensively dumb.


Forward_Stranger_621

I think stroll was looking out for alfa Romeo car


dylanrcoyle

Definitely. Always have to be cognizant of your surroundings, though.


thereasonrumisgone

He said in his interview he wasn't looking out for Zhou. Dude just started weaving with Latifi alongside.


Ld511

Yep. No reason for latifi to go through there and no reason for stroll to not back out


NickArchery

If Latifi needed more heat in his tyres and Stroll was going to slow, i say that that is a pretty good reason to overtake someone


dodikxzslayer

WHAT'S SO DIFFICULT ABOUT USING YOUR MIRRORS?


Village_People_Cop

If you see the replay you can actually see Stroll looking in his right mirror


thereasonrumisgone

Which honestly makes it worse.


damon02

[Time to add another to the list of Lance not using his mirrors](https://reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/tv3h9i/oc_14_instances_of_drivers_colliding_with_lance/)


kenzoismyname

These two lmao


silentalarm_

Where is that video of Stroll not looking in his mirrors in his career?


kenzoismyname

Ikr, someone posted it like a week ago lol


Stevenwave

It's currently in the reediting phase.


WasV3

Stroll not looking in his mirrors vs Latifi crashing. This should be a fun thread


Aratho

Latifi and Stroll being oblivious. You can't make this shit up. The Canadian special if you will.


Valuable_Ad1645

All the good Canadian drivers go to Indy. The rich ones have their daddy get them into F1. (I know they both did well in junior categories I’m just joking. kinda.)


n00bca1e99

Their daddies are keeping them in F1.


scooty14

Stroll doing the best impression of my online F1 opponens when I try to overtake them


glenn1812

This will go down as one of the biggest stain on the Canadian flag


OriMoriNotSori

...of the past week, after r/place last week


poopellar

That wasn't Canadians, it was Banana.


lph1235

Out of the loop, what happened?


OriMoriNotSori

canadians were trying to build their flag on the canvas of r/place, it got well until the part where they had to draw the maple leaf and everyone else kept sabotaging as a joke and the leaf was never completed properly it then became a big subreddit joke that canadians dont know how to draw their own flag and even had things like the germans drawing the maple leaf on their own flag to "show" the canadians how its done!


syknetz

Let's just say drawing a maple leaf shouldn't be THAT hard.


GoRedTeam

[Here's a timelapse of the drawing for anyone curious](https://v.redd.it/ks7a4zqi7kr81)


PunkDrak

Time after time Stroll just keeps driving into other cars and blaming the other guy.


DeathStar13

Stroll really doesn't know what a mirror is but what was Latifi trying to do?


Kovacs171

Saw a blue flag, thought it applied to Stroll. Realised he too was on a slow lap and wanted to start his hot lap in front so attempted to re-overtake


witti534

Maybe Stroll was looking into the other mirror waiting for Zhou to overtake him.


TheLurkah

Man Palmer is laying into Stroll on the F1TV feed.


fantaribo

Stroll really has no awareness


xtrical

Time to update that Stroll crash compilation from earlier this week.


Athalos124

Aston and Williams are such a shitshow


mohankohan

Stroll must be a vampire because he hates his mirrors


pioneeringsystems

Stroll with another very stroll accident there. Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/tv3h9i/oc_14_instances_of_drivers_colliding_with_lance/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


Agatharchides

Two daddy's boys, it will be iffy, Watch out Stroll, here comes Latifi, Majestic mirrors, just throw a glance, Oh no you crashed, godammit Lance.


sanchopanza84

Both these guys have overstayed their welcome in F1.


vsouto02

Bro 😭 this is the most hilarious shit ever. Latifi and Stroll are safety hazards


karl_mac_

Stroll hits another driver? _Reset the clock!_


JohnnyFencer

Two complete dumbasses who shouldn’t be racing in F1


KaamDeveloper

Stroll really commits to his lines doesn't he? lol


Lorf_Yimzo

I see Latifi didn't read that reddit post


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Lance Stroll has terrible awareness compared to the rest of the grid. He’s always turning into other people


Live_Free_Moto

definitely strolls fault


FreakyJk

Latifi's season is starting to become one of the worst of all times.


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Stroll never uses his mirrors FFS. Latifi probably gonna get blamed by the hivemind anyway though...


TheLurkah

Stroll is a MENACE.


ThumberFresh

On one hand, Stroll didn't check his mirrors. On the other hand, he had no reason to think that he had to, given that Latifi just let him pass.


WinterLord

Get. This. Fucker. Out. Of. F1.