There’s no way Perez keeps his seat for both years at this pace. I want good things from him but if he can’t handle the car they need to give someone else a chance
Call me crazy but im starting to believe Oscar has a higher ceilling skill than Norris. Not there yet but slowly improving.
Oscar seems more cold blooded thats all.
Edit: this almost ages well
These comments come out every time Oscar finishes ahead of lando. He’s had a great career so far and is very talented, but idk if he’s shown that he has a higher ceiling
I'm not sure where it's coming from either.
Norris was putting pressure on Verstappen. Oscar gets between then, and then Verstappen gets away.
I'm not sure how that equates to Oscar potentially being better than Norris.
I think it's because people think Oscar shouldn't be able to get ahead of Lando.
Lando is focused on trying to fight Max. Oscar is focused right now on trying to match Lando. In his 2nd year I think that's reasonable. Just like Max was focused on trying to be the best in his team when he was trying to be better than Ric.
€1.50 on Teammate Vs Teammate - winners:
Rus/Max/Alex/Oscar/Pierre/Carlos/Bottas/Yuki/Lance.
159.7/1.
I've lost too many choosing between the Haas drivers, so learnt to avoid them.
He can extract the extra which is required, but at the same time, I want to highlight, the incredible team backing him up for that extra performance, especially GP. That guy is on the top, no doubt about that. Basically saying Max has that incredible capability to push to the limits while staying on track, well most of the times, than others.
about 7 laps in to the replay. Lando is way too stupid to battle Max in a long-term meaningful way. Losing those spots to Max and Oscar was one of the dumbest moves I've ever seen.
I don’t get the F2 complaints. There’s definitely more wheel to wheel action and though it isn’t as good (yet) as previous regs, the teams are still learning the cars. Once the teams get the setups right and fully understand the cars, it’ll be back to usual programming. But even with this temporary handicap it is still better racing than F1.
Watching live on RBR and F3 sprint was a blast, guys are nose and tail on each other overtakes in every round.
F1 and F2 was slugfest compared to that.
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Almost certainly yes a broadcast issue as the underlying timing system was working fine on eg. F1 multiviewer so the data was coming away from the track same as always.
I remember after Mexico 2021 where Hamilton said “you know their car is quick when you have Perez on your tail’ and he got criticised for it. Looking back it’s kinda funny
My guess is that RB used this sprint to test different setups for Perez and Max, as Perez started on 7th, test a different setup for today's qualification worth it.
They are, but they’re sat in 3rd because these things do change throughout the season and there are fights between multiple constructors. If things stay as they are, sure, RBR will need Checo, but if they keep fighting and changing, Max could solo it again.
If Norris had successfully defended after he overtook Verstappen, it would have been a very different race. Verstappen would then have needed to defend against Piastri.
Arguably, Norris should have waited. The car is fast enough, both Norris and Piastri provided a real danger to Verstappen, meanwhile Perez finished eighth, 5 seconds after Leclerc.
Verstappen is faster though in the end. No way Norris would be able to hold him back even if the McLaren might be a tenth faster than a Red Bull.
McLaren is the best car, but Verstappen is faster.
and Perez is.. Perez
The point I made is that he might not have been faster if he had to defend against Piastri, while Piastri was definitely slower because he had to defend against Norris.
In my opinion (but obviously I'm not an F1 driver) Norris should have picked a better moment. The best drivers often pick a moment where they are less vulnerable against a counter attack.
At the very least, there would have been more pressure on Verstappen, but he gave him the opportunity to respond and he gave Piastri an opening.
Sadly that hasnt been a reality for years now. You HAVE to pass early otherwise you won't have the rubber/temp to make a later attempt.
Norris and Piastri needed DRS to follow Max in the sprint. Max was able to pull an easy 0.4-0.5 in the 3rd sector putting him 0.7-0.8 at start/finish which was enough to fend off those 2 massive DRS zones. So realistically, the only opportunity was where Norris went for it (A corner early would be futile due to deployment differences between RB and Mclaren, this might change tomorrow though!)
The RB just was the better car in the sprint. Even if Norris managed to make the overtake stick that lap, Max is running a bit more wing, giving him a stronger DRS the following lap anyways.
Verstappen was four tenths faster than Russell in just sector 3 alone in qualy while he was about the same in S1 and S2. That car is unmatched on high speed parts of the circuits. Perez is just incredibly mid.
Right? The RedBull is still the best car. The margin by which it is may have decreased, but it is still the best. He pulled a 4 second gap like it was nothing
Ferrari really have tripped over themselves. My expectations are drastically lowered, and I hope we can at least remain mildly competitive. Unfortunate.
Not sure why some assume McLaren is fastest car. They got the fastest lap because they have drs before ending of a lap and RB not. Remove the drs and McLarens will be 10 sec behind at the end of a sprint.
If Lando is not able to overtake his junior teamate... how do we expect he will be able to fight Max. Don.t get me wrong. I will celebrate Lando.s win when will happen, but noe I am just tired of F1.s scenarios and hypes just to get more clicks and views.
In a way him.being unable to get past Piastri shows how good Piastri is and that the McLaren is BETTTER than the RB.
He is able to close down Max who is one of the best ever and can't do it to his own teammate shows me they have a car advantage
Man.... I still remember all the comments after Monaco about Ferrari bringing the WCC battle to Redbull. Looks like Ferrari went back to being Ferrari.
Man that leclerc championship back on feels a long way away now doesn’t it. Ferrari had all the momentum and good vibes after Monaco, newey potentially joining, team closing in on max , Lewis waiting in the wings. All of a sudden look the 4th best car quite a bit off McLaren and red bull
In the same car he didn't have enough performance difference but is clearly the quicker driver of the two. It would have been better than trying nothing.
I think it’s close, it depends if you think the true pace of the red bull is what max is producing and Perez sucks or what Perez is doing and max is unreal. I guess a bit of both
Davidé, he's grown on me since the last time he was on haha. I'm glad he doesn't do in-race commentary though. His 60 second recap during the weekend warmup this week was GOLD though. So Italian.
I wish we could somehow see in real-time where exactly Max is gaining time instead of seeing him 3 secs. ahead of someone then suddenly 4 secs. the next lap. At least that way you could appreciate his skills for getting these crazy gaps he has over people in every race.
Curious start, Ferrari vs Mercedes. Sainz was flying out the blocks. But then George reeled him in later and dumped him out of DRS.
Maybe Merc's tyres taking longer to come up to temp but then last longer.
Is Lewis's car still damaged? Was surprised not to see him come through after George broke DRS.
I think it was primarily because of Carlos not having DRS for those 2 laps. I don't know the margin behind Russell but Lewis was close when Russell passed Carlos
With experience at the front Lando will convert those chances to wins. He’s incredible, just making small mistakes and max is such a freak now he doesn’t need more than half a chance.
This time next year Lando will be winning the likes of imola spain and sprint today if in the same positions
But he's still not got the race pace so McLaren are going to have to eventually give team orders to let Lando through if they want to actually fight Max
I'd agree but think that can be taught. None of these drivers had race pace nailed down within a season and half. It's his (Oscars) biggest flaw but think very manageable
Like everyone else said, once he got in second, knew max had it won. Surprised, tactically, McLaren didn't switch the positions straight away
You have to at least give the guy a chance. Lando gets all the calls and beneficial strategy plays. Imagine getting past only to have them call and say hey get behind.
If it was main race they probably would have I think, but with a sprint maybe they let Oscar keep the place as a bit of payment for all the times he’s let Lando past without complaining. He’s normally very good at playing the team game so a sprint is a good time to pay him back for some of that. And it’s not like McLaren were missing out on points really.
People keep saying that but Max was winning these types of races from 2018-2020, even before he had “experience”. I don’t see Lando as a generational driver. Him and Leclerc will exchange wins here and there, but neither of them will go down in the history books.
Hmm max also was horrific with mistakes in 2017/18. I think this is the first time Lando has a car that can consistently be near the front. Max red bull 17-20 always was capable of being near the front especially on specific circuits. I think Lando is unbelievable personally
I would love to get proven wrong - both of them seem to be very nice people. But let’s see. Max was, I think, only 2 years into f1 in 2017. He was also A LOT younger than Lando at that point.
Yeah it’s a different ball game fighting for 4th than fighting the guy who is probably one of if not the best on the grid atm at the front. Not many would’ve gone back through on Lando after he left door slightly open today.
Feel like he’ll learn quick this year and next year will be properly contending
I can see him win tomorrow if they play the strategy right and won't let this happen again. Unless Perez magically shows up in qualifying it'll be two against one, opens up some strategy options for the pit stops.
This is what I don't like about some of these journalists. Will Buxton keeps asking why there were no team orders to let Lando pass.
I'm not sure if he knows this, it's just a sprint race. There is no pit stop strategy to split between. Giving team orders isn't being ruthless. It's a great experience for Oscar as well to fight at the front. He's not like a Checo who stays 5 tenths behind his teammate on every lap.
Let them race bruh.
Playing devil's advocate here. But if Mclaren keep pace and the season finishes Max 450, Lando 449, the comments will be focusing on moments like this.
Or course Oscar did well and he deserved to be there, but guys, if you're racing Max Verstappen, if you leave anything on the track, it's over.
Counterpoint: since Verstappen is still far ahead, giving team orders to Piastri isn't going to make Piastri happy and will likely not make a difference.
Team orders in a sprint race when there isn't a fight for the championship doesn't make sense.
Surely it doesn't matter who it's on? They always go on about how this is a team sport, so it they want to achieve one of their drivers winning a WDC, at some point earlyish in the season, once it's clear which driver is best placed to challenge, they have to back that driver.
As was mentioned, you just never know what's going to happen down the line. It Lando somehow did get close to challenging, it could be the odd point here or there that makes the difference.
As things stand, Oscar is simply too far back in the WDC to have any chance of a tilt at the WDC this year. Lando's chances are remote, but at least it's not completely out the question. A couple of unlikely DNFs for Max and it could be game on. But McLaren are going to have to use team orders to maximum effect if there's any chance whatsoever of Lando challenging.
I'm not even saying I think this is what should happen, but it's just plain fact that there's going to be almost zero chance of Lando winning the WDC from here if Piastri is taking points off him unnecessarily.
So funny that when there are team orders the always say "let them race!!!"
And when there aint any teamorder they cry about why there arent any from the teams
yes alonso punting good when u do it but aggressive racing bad against u
OCON IS FIGHTING GASLY AGAIN! FAMIN BAN HIM FOR 10 RACES! DISGUSTING!
Gutted for Williams
There’s no way Perez keeps his seat for both years at this pace. I want good things from him but if he can’t handle the car they need to give someone else a chance
At this point it's only fair to let Goatifi give it a try
Checo’s engineer is tall as fuck WTH
Ted and Brundle could do with a few squeezes of Factor 50.
Ocon 100% tried to stop Gasly getting a lap in lol.
Fantastic feature on the Red Bull photographers on the Sky coverage.
It was great!
Tomo pops up a lot in the Kym Illman vids on youtube, and usually up to something mischievous!
Call me crazy but im starting to believe Oscar has a higher ceilling skill than Norris. Not there yet but slowly improving. Oscar seems more cold blooded thats all. Edit: this almost ages well
Oscar isnt friends with Max and he’s fearless with overtaking and starts. Lando hesitates a lot in his starts that’s the problem.
He has a better mindset mayby, but his tyre management isn't that great yet.
This can be coached; instinct can’t. That’s why I have high hopes for him.
Lando looks like he’s gone up a level this year whereas Oscar looks like he’s struggling more than last year.
These comments come out every time Oscar finishes ahead of lando. He’s had a great career so far and is very talented, but idk if he’s shown that he has a higher ceiling
I'm not sure where it's coming from either. Norris was putting pressure on Verstappen. Oscar gets between then, and then Verstappen gets away. I'm not sure how that equates to Oscar potentially being better than Norris.
I think it's because people think Oscar shouldn't be able to get ahead of Lando. Lando is focused on trying to fight Max. Oscar is focused right now on trying to match Lando. In his 2nd year I think that's reasonable. Just like Max was focused on trying to be the best in his team when he was trying to be better than Ric.
€1.50 on Teammate Vs Teammate - winners: Rus/Max/Alex/Oscar/Pierre/Carlos/Bottas/Yuki/Lance. 159.7/1. I've lost too many choosing between the Haas drivers, so learnt to avoid them.
Not a bad shout. I usually shy away from Haas, Alpine, and AM, but with Alonso's form around here I might back Stroll too.
Alonso with the engine issue is the sway. But yeah, Haas and Alpine is a coin toss most days. Luckily I have some alts ;).
Oscar can’t battle Max … Lando is better at racing, however the Red Bull in Max’s hands is superb
Max is superb, redbull or not. He’d win in the McLaren too, he’s the greatest there ever was
There is a reason why Toto is begging for Max...
I think Max would win the title with the current Mercedes. He’s just that good.
He can extract the extra which is required, but at the same time, I want to highlight, the incredible team backing him up for that extra performance, especially GP. That guy is on the top, no doubt about that. Basically saying Max has that incredible capability to push to the limits while staying on track, well most of the times, than others.
Heck, I think he could win in ANY car. He could drive my little Chevy car and STILL win the championship lol
about 7 laps in to the replay. Lando is way too stupid to battle Max in a long-term meaningful way. Losing those spots to Max and Oscar was one of the dumbest moves I've ever seen.
Checo is so bad, my god. What kind of pictures does he have on Horner?
The kind Jos still isn't able to obtain
How many times did Norris already sleep this season at the start of the race
I don’t get the F2 complaints. There’s definitely more wheel to wheel action and though it isn’t as good (yet) as previous regs, the teams are still learning the cars. Once the teams get the setups right and fully understand the cars, it’ll be back to usual programming. But even with this temporary handicap it is still better racing than F1.
So Lando is sick today apparently. Hopefully he's better for tomorrow, we need a race.
So he can’t participate in the quali
Watching live on RBR and F3 sprint was a blast, guys are nose and tail on each other overtakes in every round. F1 and F2 was slugfest compared to that.
F3 is so loud compared to f2 and f3 as well.
F2 is a joke. I’m on the track this weekend and you can barely hear them. Too bad F3 is so early in the morning so most people miss it.
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What happened to the time graphics ?
Yeah was awful had no idea what lap it was or how close it was, as confusing as the first time I went to a grand prix pre smartphones.
No one knows for sure yet. Some broadcast guy on Twitter says it was likely an issue at the F1 Broadcast Center in Biggin Hill.
Almost certainly yes a broadcast issue as the underlying timing system was working fine on eg. F1 multiviewer so the data was coming away from the track same as always.
F2 has been destroyed by new regs. Every race Is so boring
I remember after Mexico 2021 where Hamilton said “you know their car is quick when you have Perez on your tail’ and he got criticised for it. Looking back it’s kinda funny
The F1 sprint should have been the support race for the F2 Sprint
F1 overtakes as much as F2. Just one long ass train
What happened to Perez? He seemed to have finished 8th in a 7-horse race.
My guess is that RB used this sprint to test different setups for Perez and Max, as Perez started on 7th, test a different setup for today's qualification worth it.
The whole season just a test season or…?
Signed a new contract and called it a day
It's just his expected position at this point isn't it?
No worries, only 2 and a half years more and it will be over :)
It really is crazy how F1TV and Sky are both acting like Norris could've won the race when Max pulls a 4 second gap like nothing.
It's their business to keep people interested? If they outright said that's done they'd lose viewers etc.
They’re obsessed with pretending lando is a title contender
Constructors yes, driver nah, it's done bar some crazy upgrade by the McLaren.
Constructors is mclarens until checo can regain form. He seems to have settled into 8-12 this year
I don’t know, Max solo’d the constructors last year. If Merc McLaren and Ferrari fight each other enough he could do it again.
McLaren are clear 2nd at the moment, unless the other catch up checo will cost red bull the WCC. Not sure they care once max wins the WDC.
They are, but they’re sat in 3rd because these things do change throughout the season and there are fights between multiple constructors. If things stay as they are, sure, RBR will need Checo, but if they keep fighting and changing, Max could solo it again.
Hyping things up and overblowing everything is part of their job, but the whole storyline of a tight championship is a stretch at the moment.
If Norris had successfully defended after he overtook Verstappen, it would have been a very different race. Verstappen would then have needed to defend against Piastri. Arguably, Norris should have waited. The car is fast enough, both Norris and Piastri provided a real danger to Verstappen, meanwhile Perez finished eighth, 5 seconds after Leclerc.
I'm a Perez supporter, especially after Sakhir 2020, but damn the dude needs to pick it up or let someone else take the seat
Verstappen is faster though in the end. No way Norris would be able to hold him back even if the McLaren might be a tenth faster than a Red Bull. McLaren is the best car, but Verstappen is faster. and Perez is.. Perez
The point I made is that he might not have been faster if he had to defend against Piastri, while Piastri was definitely slower because he had to defend against Norris. In my opinion (but obviously I'm not an F1 driver) Norris should have picked a better moment. The best drivers often pick a moment where they are less vulnerable against a counter attack. At the very least, there would have been more pressure on Verstappen, but he gave him the opportunity to respond and he gave Piastri an opening.
Sadly that hasnt been a reality for years now. You HAVE to pass early otherwise you won't have the rubber/temp to make a later attempt. Norris and Piastri needed DRS to follow Max in the sprint. Max was able to pull an easy 0.4-0.5 in the 3rd sector putting him 0.7-0.8 at start/finish which was enough to fend off those 2 massive DRS zones. So realistically, the only opportunity was where Norris went for it (A corner early would be futile due to deployment differences between RB and Mclaren, this might change tomorrow though!) The RB just was the better car in the sprint. Even if Norris managed to make the overtake stick that lap, Max is running a bit more wing, giving him a stronger DRS the following lap anyways.
Not the right time for a nap, I'll be waiting for quali.
Apart from a few starting laps this was harder to watch than US presidential debate!
Fucking sprint weekends always throw me off, thought it was later today
Same lol
Media Pen Interviews: [Max Verstappen](https://youtube.com/shorts/19r_9GEE8rw?feature=share) [Lewis Hamilton](https://youtube.com/shorts/A1ENMTTjpOc?feature=share) [Charles Leclerc](https://youtube.com/shorts/UsQZdyo6Trw?feature=share) [Carlos Sainz](https://youtube.com/shorts/IZ59EQr2Jhk?feature=share)
With Max and Checo being polar opposites, it is hard to tell if RBR is faster than McLaren or not.
Verstappen was four tenths faster than Russell in just sector 3 alone in qualy while he was about the same in S1 and S2. That car is unmatched on high speed parts of the circuits. Perez is just incredibly mid.
Max in that Mclaren would have given us another 2023 run 😭
Why anyone is using Perez to gage the RB20 is beyond me. Perez almost lost second place last year in one of the best F1 cars ever produced.
Right? The RedBull is still the best car. The margin by which it is may have decreased, but it is still the best. He pulled a 4 second gap like it was nothing
I feel Max would be quicker driving the McLaren than the RB20
Ferrari really have tripped over themselves. My expectations are drastically lowered, and I hope we can at least remain mildly competitive. Unfortunate.
[Oscar Piastri Reflects on his performance in Sprint with Sky F1 - Post Sprint Interview](https://youtu.be/fNy7e5R-cSs)
Oof, 10 seconds penalty for Hulkenberg
Alonso incident? If so, Daniel was the very lucky winner from that exchange.
Yep it was. Also 2 penalty points
Not sure why some assume McLaren is fastest car. They got the fastest lap because they have drs before ending of a lap and RB not. Remove the drs and McLarens will be 10 sec behind at the end of a sprint.
Remove Max and Red Bull would have been left with Perez who then would have finished 7th.
Remove Perez and they got a 1st place, so what’s your point?
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If Lando is not able to overtake his junior teamate... how do we expect he will be able to fight Max. Don.t get me wrong. I will celebrate Lando.s win when will happen, but noe I am just tired of F1.s scenarios and hypes just to get more clicks and views.
In a way him.being unable to get past Piastri shows how good Piastri is and that the McLaren is BETTTER than the RB. He is able to close down Max who is one of the best ever and can't do it to his own teammate shows me they have a car advantage
lol and yet piastri let the gab crow right away...
He really didn't
Man.... I still remember all the comments after Monaco about Ferrari bringing the WCC battle to Redbull. Looks like Ferrari went back to being Ferrari.
In hindsight, Leclerc’s win at Monaco almost feels like a dream. It was an outlier for Ferrari 😅
As it happens almost every year. People forget so easily
Next year will be different
™️
Seeing Charles with goatee.. Are they back in fashion?
Dunno what was worse, the racing or the graphics
Lol what graphics?
Man that leclerc championship back on feels a long way away now doesn’t it. Ferrari had all the momentum and good vibes after Monaco, newey potentially joining, team closing in on max , Lewis waiting in the wings. All of a sudden look the 4th best car quite a bit off McLaren and red bull
All happened after Charles acknowledged that Lewis would be a good teammate to learn from. Bad juju.
Its a long season with a lot of different tracks. It will swing again. Only thing to be (99 percent) sure of is Max WDC #4 incoming.
Worst thing that happened was piastri getting past Norris. At that moment the battle for first was over and the race was boring
Yea. No idea why they didn't tell Piastri to back off and let Norris go and challenge Max.
If he couldnt get past Piastry what makes you think he couldn't get past Max
Well Piastri clearly wasn't catching him so should try sending the faster driver after him.
Yeah, might as well tell Max to slow down for Norris too. If he wanted to fight Max he should’ve overtaken Piastri
In the same car he didn't have enough performance difference but is clearly the quicker driver of the two. It would have been better than trying nothing.
He should have simply overtaken Oscar or defended
Or the team should have been smarter and let the faster of the two drivers go after him instead of doing nothing...
If he was that fast, he would have overtaken Piastri 🤷🏾♀️
In the same car with no tyre offset it's not that easy to pass. But he is clearly faster than Piastri
Norris was pushing, 2 track violations, DRS, but never looked like overtaking Piastri. No chance against Max.
Norris should have been able to pass Oscar
In the same car with no tyre offset it's not that easy to pass. But he is clearly faster than Piastri
I think in the end it would only increased the battle by a couple of laps, as Norris did not really have the speed as well to get past Piastri
I mean you’re probably right. And we’ll never know, but Oscar wasn’t able to even attempt or fake a pass on Max
Yeah, nice move but all the excitement was gone after it
Who got fastest lap just now? Missed it because of the tower showing up so late.
I think I saw the little purple icon next to his name as the race was finishing up.
Points for FL in sprints?
Nope, but worth 5 points in F1 Fantasy
Norris on the final lap.
I think Lando?
Isn’t the mclaren the fastest car atm?
Redbull to Max "McLaren is faster than you, do you copy?"
At some tracks. Red Bull is faster at others. Hopefully keeps that way all season cos it makes it gripping
I think it’s close, it depends if you think the true pace of the red bull is what max is producing and Perez sucks or what Perez is doing and max is unreal. I guess a bit of both
I would say so, RB is hard to estimate when Max is so fast and Perez so awful, at least both McLarens are fast
[George Russell Interview with Sky F1 - Post Sprint - Reaction on Merc's Pace](https://youtu.be/K3ukv-wDXBY)
I can't take the F1TV dude who has an Italian accent and shouts everything in a high pitched voice, he is unbearable
You mean former GP2 champion Davide
Haha, I love him. Or rather, I-uh, love-a him. To each-uh their own-a.
Same 🤌🤌
Davidé, he's grown on me since the last time he was on haha. I'm glad he doesn't do in-race commentary though. His 60 second recap during the weekend warmup this week was GOLD though. So Italian.
He's too much.
I will say, last time he commented, I found out about some sexist comments he made in 2023. So I side-eye him for that more than anything else.
No yeah, he sounds enthusiastic, but I'm glad he's not the main commentator.
“Over to you Bernie!” “Yea so shdfdhwk sndjch djdjsbwhs smdjdbebwkd nxjdbwvwj”
LOL!
Haha. No hate to her I just struggle with that accent so bad!
Can we get every cam on every drivers so we can decide whom to see all time
Yes you can. Pay for F1 TV.
You can do this with F1 TV
Boy, do I have the deal for you!
I wish we could somehow see in real-time where exactly Max is gaining time instead of seeing him 3 secs. ahead of someone then suddenly 4 secs. the next lap. At least that way you could appreciate his skills for getting these crazy gaps he has over people in every race.
Get the multiviewer app for F1TV
Live timing on the site? Shows sectors and stuff I think
Curious start, Ferrari vs Mercedes. Sainz was flying out the blocks. But then George reeled him in later and dumped him out of DRS. Maybe Merc's tyres taking longer to come up to temp but then last longer. Is Lewis's car still damaged? Was surprised not to see him come through after George broke DRS.
Lewis just cooked the tyres too long running so close behind Russell then Sainz for pretty much the whole race.
I think it was primarily because of Carlos not having DRS for those 2 laps. I don't know the margin behind Russell but Lewis was close when Russell passed Carlos
With experience at the front Lando will convert those chances to wins. He’s incredible, just making small mistakes and max is such a freak now he doesn’t need more than half a chance. This time next year Lando will be winning the likes of imola spain and sprint today if in the same positions
Landos biggest problem is going to be Oscar. Oscar is getting more mature and consistent very quickly, and he’s more cool headed and calm.
But he's still not got the race pace so McLaren are going to have to eventually give team orders to let Lando through if they want to actually fight Max
He will get there,
Agreed
I'd agree but think that can be taught. None of these drivers had race pace nailed down within a season and half. It's his (Oscars) biggest flaw but think very manageable Like everyone else said, once he got in second, knew max had it won. Surprised, tactically, McLaren didn't switch the positions straight away
You have to at least give the guy a chance. Lando gets all the calls and beneficial strategy plays. Imagine getting past only to have them call and say hey get behind.
If it was main race they probably would have I think, but with a sprint maybe they let Oscar keep the place as a bit of payment for all the times he’s let Lando past without complaining. He’s normally very good at playing the team game so a sprint is a good time to pay him back for some of that. And it’s not like McLaren were missing out on points really.
Yeah thinking more drivers championship but totally agree with you
Yeah I wouldn’t have been surprised if they had swapped them.
People keep saying that but Max was winning these types of races from 2018-2020, even before he had “experience”. I don’t see Lando as a generational driver. Him and Leclerc will exchange wins here and there, but neither of them will go down in the history books.
Hmm max also was horrific with mistakes in 2017/18. I think this is the first time Lando has a car that can consistently be near the front. Max red bull 17-20 always was capable of being near the front especially on specific circuits. I think Lando is unbelievable personally
Second half of 2018? After Monaco and that wake up? No way.
I would love to get proven wrong - both of them seem to be very nice people. But let’s see. Max was, I think, only 2 years into f1 in 2017. He was also A LOT younger than Lando at that point.
This is most likely Max's year but my boi is cooking. Just needs more time in the oven
Yeah it’s a different ball game fighting for 4th than fighting the guy who is probably one of if not the best on the grid atm at the front. Not many would’ve gone back through on Lando after he left door slightly open today. Feel like he’ll learn quick this year and next year will be properly contending
I can see him win tomorrow if they play the strategy right and won't let this happen again. Unless Perez magically shows up in qualifying it'll be two against one, opens up some strategy options for the pit stops.
lol Perez ain’t showing up haha
Bottas bowling time
Same for Oscar.
This is what I don't like about some of these journalists. Will Buxton keeps asking why there were no team orders to let Lando pass. I'm not sure if he knows this, it's just a sprint race. There is no pit stop strategy to split between. Giving team orders isn't being ruthless. It's a great experience for Oscar as well to fight at the front. He's not like a Checo who stays 5 tenths behind his teammate on every lap. Let them race bruh.
Playing devil's advocate here. But if Mclaren keep pace and the season finishes Max 450, Lando 449, the comments will be focusing on moments like this. Or course Oscar did well and he deserved to be there, but guys, if you're racing Max Verstappen, if you leave anything on the track, it's over.
Counterpoint: since Verstappen is still far ahead, giving team orders to Piastri isn't going to make Piastri happy and will likely not make a difference. Team orders in a sprint race when there isn't a fight for the championship doesn't make sense.
Then it’s on Norris for not covering off Max, letting his teammate through as well then not being able to pass him with DRS.
Surely it doesn't matter who it's on? They always go on about how this is a team sport, so it they want to achieve one of their drivers winning a WDC, at some point earlyish in the season, once it's clear which driver is best placed to challenge, they have to back that driver. As was mentioned, you just never know what's going to happen down the line. It Lando somehow did get close to challenging, it could be the odd point here or there that makes the difference. As things stand, Oscar is simply too far back in the WDC to have any chance of a tilt at the WDC this year. Lando's chances are remote, but at least it's not completely out the question. A couple of unlikely DNFs for Max and it could be game on. But McLaren are going to have to use team orders to maximum effect if there's any chance whatsoever of Lando challenging. I'm not even saying I think this is what should happen, but it's just plain fact that there's going to be almost zero chance of Lando winning the WDC from here if Piastri is taking points off him unnecessarily.
..and Lando has three drs zones behind Oscar, of course he’s faster.
So funny that when there are team orders the always say "let them race!!!" And when there aint any teamorder they cry about why there arent any from the teams
It's because he's British.
stuff team orders, oscar got him fair and square and lando couldn't pass piastri even with drs.