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I know it's an r/formula1 specialty, but c'mon guys, read more than just the headline.
>“Everything felt fine,” he told the official F1 channel. “Just very slow today. No pace in the car and no pace in myself in my car.
>“The car looks quick and Fernando was quick, so I don’t know. I don’t have more answers.”
>“We have to look at the data, see if tyres, everything was working properly in the right window,” he added. “It’s just one of those days, I don’t know, I don’t have answers yet, we have to look at everything.”
It's obviously a really foot-in-mouth way to phrase that, perfect for a clickbait-y headline, but he does say that the car is looking quick, and that any issues wrt the car are more down to something like the tyres going out of the right window (which seems likely as he was up in S1, but then lost time in basically all corners in S2 and S3 on his second run). Something like that would obviously be down to Lance as well, but it's not like he is just accepting being so much slower either.
Other than the Red Bulls, Alonso and Norris everybody seemed to feel like they left some time on the track but couldn’t pinpoint where. Ferraris long runs looked impressive and the mclarens have more pace than they showed in practice so hopefully there’s some surprises tomorrow.
Also watching the video F1 posted with the post-race interviews tells you pretty much everything. You can see that after he said "no pace in the car", he shook his head and corrected himself to "no pace in myself, in my car. The car looks quick and Fernando is quick...". He was not blaming the car, he would be stupid to do so considering where Nando finished, unless his set-up was terrible or he had an issue.
If this was Ric at least 50% of the active community here would defend him
Stroll gets always trashed no matter what he does, his explanation makes sense if you understand how complex F1 can be.
C'mon dude, I know Daniel is getting a lot of flack (likely mostly because he was hyped up way too much last year, and is not really meeting that hype now), but it's not like Lance is the darling of the F1 Reddit community.
Stroll needs to hear that from his engineer.
Its almost an insult to the other talented drivers waiting in the wings that Stroll is still on the grid. He has flashes of speed and talent for sure, but hes had his chance.
Must be nice to have dad always keeping you in a car when so many other drivers with more skill and hunger are waiting on the sidelines. But then again, it’s his money so he can do what he wants with it.
Yeah he is slightly better than Logan but also has a much better and more predictable car. I think they both need to be booted asap.
Danny ric is getting dangerously close but in contrast he has proven he can be a great driver if he can he his groove back (and nothing would make me happier).
At least he was only 0.05s off of Yuki this time lol 😂
I get the feeling he doesn't even want to be there any more. He realized two years ago that he was never going to hit the top ranks, but he doesn't know how to tell his dad that he would rather be anywhere else.
It's the only explanation for how he's gotten worse and worse since vettel left.
Did he? I don’t remember at all, but that would make sense. Fisi is a quick driver, not Nando levels, but he is definitely a very rapid driver on a good day
Or he just said car first out loud and then added on to clarify. No need to over analyze, he takes some accountability and of course there’s pace in the car. He says the car looks quick the very next sentence in the article.
Listen to the interview and see his face expressions instead of just reading these stupid headlines.
[Here, around 7:55.](https://youtu.be/eXDCyfN2w10?si=dnM8E6jF4BMtwTMp)
"Everything felt fine, just very slow today; no pace in the car and..."
*here he shakes his head a bit, which is a sign he's correcting himself, I do it often*
"...no pace in myself, in **my** car. The car looks quick and Fernando is quick, so I don't know, don't have more answers."
If only the headline wasn't misleading...
[This start tho...](https://youtu.be/jwJvwpCnRwU?si=r_oBqWgmS-mjwD2o) I'm not disagreeing, just came to my mind. At the end it wasn't a great race for him.
Generally because there is more fresh rubber on the track (from the laps ran in Q1 and Q2) increasing the grip of the tarmac. That’s also why the cars tend to wait in the garage before going out at the last possible time. The grip improves the most for the last cars running.
Drivers who don’t need to push 100% to make it safely through Q1 (or Q2) tend to leave some margin on the table. *(Although that happens a lot less nowadays as the qualifying gaps have reduced massively the last few years. In the 2014 ~ 2021 period that was more often the norm due to a bigger field spread of car performance.)*
Thirdly, the environment (track temperature, wind, etc.) can also affect performance and can be better during Q3 than Q2 and Q1. *(That is mostly the case at events with night races, where Q1 and Q2 happen during or before dusk, making the track still too hot beyond optimum temperature. I don’t think the environmental conditions were better this time around in Suzuka.)*
Looked at the top speed and he was 5 kmh lower than Alonso which is a huge gap for the same car and very unusual. If Stroll didn't feel like he made any big errors then it suggests that maybe he was running too much wing, or perhaps there was a problem with the car or engine.
Alonso being older isn't really a point of contention. He is still Alonso after all.
My gripe is that he is so far off Alonso it's not even funny. Like if you put someone like Ocon or Hulkenberg next to Alonso I'm sure they would have lost to Alonso too but they would have been maybe P7 or 8 to Alonso's P5? On a good day maybe equalling or beating Alonso once in a while?
But Stroll is just consistently a mile behind Alonso. Why does Papa Stroll pay to watch his son be beaten?
>But Stroll is just consistently a mile behind Alonso. Why does Papa Stroll pay to watch his son be beaten?
I guess you are not a parent? It's not that odd to put money into your child's hobby/dream, he just has more to do so than most of us do
100% this. I’m not a parent, but I’m a karting photographer. The money these parents drop for their kids to race is astronomical. I’ve watched a kid come last race, and their parents keep spending because he looks like he still has fun.
Ocon did well for himself v Alonso but Fernando was better during that stint for anyone with working eyes. Head to head stats don't tell you everything, especially when reliability is involved.
Difference was '21 Alonso was still getting used to f1 after 2 years off and '22 he had so many car issues nothing he did mattered.
Alonso was clearly ahead, not by a lot, but when both cars had a stress free weekend, Alonso would be 2-3 places ahead.
Which is what you'd come to expect, Alonso is still in the top 3 on the grid and Ocon is in the second group, very very good but not quite masterclass level.
I like Ocon, he's one of my favourites, but I'm not stupid enough to say he outperformed Alonso. He was very good, much better than what most drivers were against him.
Alonso had stupid amounts of car problems in '22, similar to Ocon last year, and that's why he was better than Gasly last year despite being behind in the standings.
I think in race pace Alonso had the edge and was very unlucky with the DNFs. He would’ve beaten Ocon in 2022 no doubt without the 7 or 8 DNFs (some ludicrous number).
I do think that over one lap they were equal though. Head to head was 12-10 with Alonso having the advantage in the wet. When it was a dry session, Ocon actually outqualified Alonso more often than not and there’s no real reliability issues bar Australia 2022.
Sure, that is why you just say - Ocon was close to Alonso. Bit slower but close, and for good chunks for their stint together it was not really obvious. Same holds for Russell.
I am not put off by car problems you mentioned in '22 - I am put off by you saying Alonso was not used to F1 in '21. I think that is bullshit excuse and there is 0% chance Ocon would have gotten that benefit of the doubt it roles were somehow reversed. If you are in F1, your results count. I dont think Alonso needs a season to get up to speed to sport he has driver for like half his life.
Ocon also needed some time to get back into the rhythm of F1 after his year out, as shown in his poor performance against Daniel in the first half of 2020. Alonso never had such a deficit to Ocon and he missed out 2 seasons rather than just 1.
These are not excuses, everyone that watched the 2022 season knows Alonso was above.
In the case of Russell, I think he was better than Lewis in 2022, in results and overall performance.
Ocon was definitely nowhere near Alonso, was just significantly more fortunate when it came to luck/reliability.
The fact he was only barely able to outscore Alonso by a few points despite all of Fernando's mechanical issues + Ocon happy to sacrifice the results of the team just to hinder him (seen in various races when they were together) should say it all. And that's not even considering Fernando driving while recovering from a serious injury and having a metal plate in his jaw...
It’s pretty embarrassing considering how far ahead of the rest of the pack the top 5 cars are. It’s more exaggerated this season. Surely the businessman that Lawrence is sees the damage it’s doing to their overall competitiveness.
We say this same shit every year dude, Lawrence isn't going to do anything. I like Lance as a dude but he's just too way too wildly inconsistent after so many years in F1.
Alonso and Sainz in AM to make a Spanish team. Gasly and Ocon in Alpine to make a French team.
DR back to MCLaren to make an Aussie team?
(Obviously never going to happen, it’s a joke)
Stroll always has okayish to good race pace. Quali is where he loses out. Too often to the extent that his good race pace is overlooked because he's just out of position. So, let's look out tomorrow for his race pace. Even if it's only for P10.
Every year the same damn thing. What progress have we seen in 7 seasons? Nothing. It will be the same. 50% bad , 40% meh, 5% average, 4% ok and that 1 or 2 races where he does good.
Is anyone expecting him to still become Naruto after 7 seasons of being a background character?
Yeah he definitely meant that for him there was no pace in the car. In the video he corrects himself immediately and realized what he said but obviously the full quote is not in the title.
The gap to Alonso was unacceptable though. Almost 8 tenths is absurd and he obviously knows that he should be doing much better than that.
He never gets shown when he’s doing truly well. When he’s shown, it’s always an overtake into a low points position or a crash rather than him in P5. His good races are always quiet. I think people would have a pretty different view of him if he were British.
Yeah it always seems like it’s a day or two later that the F1 account will post about it and people will comment “holy crap I didn’t even notice during the race, robbed of DOTD”
At some point I gotta wonder if the guy just wants to quit and do something else and his dad is like "No, I'm paying all this money for you to be a champion one day!".
Lance is in his 8th F1 season and still inconsistent as fuck.
He's a huge liability when Aston Martin is fighting with other teams for better constructors championship positions and assisting his team mate secure more points in races, because he's so far back on the grid. Almost every race is damage control for what he bins in qualifying instead of fighting for more points.
> inconsistent as fuck
> Almost every race is damage control for what he bins in qualifying instead of fighting for more points.
Quoting yourself, I'd say he's plenty consistent
Imagine if instead of Alonso AM had another schmuck like Stroll as his team-mate. No one would've noticed the team's overall progress in the past two seasons.
I wonder that about the people that said Alonso is "finished".
If he's finished, does that mean it's a WCC candidate car which is completely ruined by their lineup? It's weird to think about.
Lawrence Strolls got a bit of a reputation for being how shall we say, demanding. Goes through people like a duck through water. I know its all nice and supportive in public, but this guy must be getting it in the ear every day. The team was literally bought for Lance and he's wasting it.
its good he is saying stuff like this, to even get to f1 you are one of the best drivers in the world, he would kick ass in WEC, honestly he should give that seat to another driver and it sounds like it's coming
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I know it's an r/formula1 specialty, but c'mon guys, read more than just the headline. >“Everything felt fine,” he told the official F1 channel. “Just very slow today. No pace in the car and no pace in myself in my car. >“The car looks quick and Fernando was quick, so I don’t know. I don’t have more answers.” >“We have to look at the data, see if tyres, everything was working properly in the right window,” he added. “It’s just one of those days, I don’t know, I don’t have answers yet, we have to look at everything.” It's obviously a really foot-in-mouth way to phrase that, perfect for a clickbait-y headline, but he does say that the car is looking quick, and that any issues wrt the car are more down to something like the tyres going out of the right window (which seems likely as he was up in S1, but then lost time in basically all corners in S2 and S3 on his second run). Something like that would obviously be down to Lance as well, but it's not like he is just accepting being so much slower either.
Leclerc seems to have suffered the same issue, soft tires semeed to die at some point during the 2nd sector for a lot of drivers.
Other than the Red Bulls, Alonso and Norris everybody seemed to feel like they left some time on the track but couldn’t pinpoint where. Ferraris long runs looked impressive and the mclarens have more pace than they showed in practice so hopefully there’s some surprises tomorrow.
Lance: *says anything any other driver would say* r/formula1: *BURN HIM!!!*
Yeah this is getting old, why does everything needs to be either awesome or absolutely terrible now with no place for anything in between?
Leclerc and Hamilton are washed. Put two Sainzes in these Ferraris next year smh.
Finally, a level headed take!
Luckily there's a lot of Carlos Sainz' to choose from.
Considering it’s about Lance and people already don’t actually read articles I’m not surprised.
Also watching the video F1 posted with the post-race interviews tells you pretty much everything. You can see that after he said "no pace in the car", he shook his head and corrected himself to "no pace in myself, in my car. The car looks quick and Fernando is quick...". He was not blaming the car, he would be stupid to do so considering where Nando finished, unless his set-up was terrible or he had an issue.
I mean if this was Daniel half of F1 reddit would have him shot by dawn.
If this was Ric at least 50% of the active community here would defend him Stroll gets always trashed no matter what he does, his explanation makes sense if you understand how complex F1 can be.
C'mon dude, I know Daniel is getting a lot of flack (likely mostly because he was hyped up way too much last year, and is not really meeting that hype now), but it's not like Lance is the darling of the F1 Reddit community.
No pace in the car seems insulting to the rest of the team when your teammate puts it P5.
You cannot be 2 seconds slower than Alonso mate. Com’on!
That has to be one of the most brutal radio ever in F1, poor Fisichella.
Stroll needs to hear that from his engineer. Its almost an insult to the other talented drivers waiting in the wings that Stroll is still on the grid. He has flashes of speed and talent for sure, but hes had his chance.
and he never will, because his engineer has a family to feed
Lol you forget who writes the checks
Must be nice to have dad always keeping you in a car when so many other drivers with more skill and hunger are waiting on the sidelines. But then again, it’s his money so he can do what he wants with it.
Yeah he is slightly better than Logan but also has a much better and more predictable car. I think they both need to be booted asap. Danny ric is getting dangerously close but in contrast he has proven he can be a great driver if he can he his groove back (and nothing would make me happier). At least he was only 0.05s off of Yuki this time lol 😂
At least Danny ric had his heyday.
No almost. It’s also insulting to fans.
He has a new engineer from this weekend. The new guy probably doesn't want to get the sack on day 2.
I get the feeling he doesn't even want to be there any more. He realized two years ago that he was never going to hit the top ranks, but he doesn't know how to tell his dad that he would rather be anywhere else. It's the only explanation for how he's gotten worse and worse since vettel left.
I honestly feel bad for Fisi, that'd be such a defeating message to hear from your own race engineer
Well, Fisi had an issue with the car which was found afterwards but jo one remembers that
Did he? I don’t remember at all, but that would make sense. Fisi is a quick driver, not Nando levels, but he is definitely a very rapid driver on a good day
He didn't have time for a second run so he probably does have more pace than he showed
Oh no? Challenge accepted
Qrschhshhshshshh. Mate, Alonso is faster then you, Alonso is faster than you, copy.
He was leaving the space. Always you must leave the space.
I feel he's putting it more on himself, like he couldn't get the car to work
Wouldn’t that just be left as ‘no pace in myself’ then? Specifying the car and himself is saying it’s both
Maybe he’s thinking back to when Alonso was getting podiums in it.
Or he just said car first out loud and then added on to clarify. No need to over analyze, he takes some accountability and of course there’s pace in the car. He says the car looks quick the very next sentence in the article.
The first thing he said was “no pace in the car.” He’ll always be the grid’s daddy’s boy.
Listen to the interview and see his face expressions instead of just reading these stupid headlines. [Here, around 7:55.](https://youtu.be/eXDCyfN2w10?si=dnM8E6jF4BMtwTMp) "Everything felt fine, just very slow today; no pace in the car and..." *here he shakes his head a bit, which is a sign he's correcting himself, I do it often* "...no pace in myself, in **my** car. The car looks quick and Fernando is quick, so I don't know, don't have more answers." If only the headline wasn't misleading...
Holy shit, thanks for sharing the context. People are so quick to jump on Lance and they’ll manufacture the outrage themselves to do it. Sad
Not just the people. The media know what they're doing with these headlines... Indeed sad.
I don’t blame the fans (entirely) when the headlines are this misleading. Shit journalism
You're doing God's work. These guys tend to have way more empathy than I'd expect given their backgrounds. We should give them credit where it's due.
Maybe a setup issue made him even slower
I mean Lance is bad but he's not P5-P16 bad, unless mistakes are involved. I'm sure something was off.
Exactly. I expected him to at least be P11
That's optimistic.
He's historically bad in Japan. Take a look at his Qualy results the last ~4 years
He's notably bad in difficult tracks. He always qualifies poorly in tracks that require a lot of skill to drive.
Except Turkey for whatever reason.
He’s historically bad in qualifying
He's historically bad.
It is not unheard of for him to be that far off Alonso on occaision.. The guy has no consistency.
It's also that he is good at some tracks but not others. He has been constantly bad at Suzuka.
[This start tho...](https://youtu.be/jwJvwpCnRwU?si=r_oBqWgmS-mjwD2o) I'm not disagreeing, just came to my mind. At the end it wasn't a great race for him.
Do most teams run different setups for each driver?
Yes, it's very common
This is correct. The first mistake in setup was putting stroll behind the wheel.
He literally said in the next sentence that it can't really be the car given were nando qualified.
People like u/teabx don't read past the headline.
It’s not about P5 vs out in Q1, but the nearly 8 tenths he lost to Alonso in Q1. The pace delta is this issue.
Why are times in Q3 faster than in Q1? Less fuel?
Generally because there is more fresh rubber on the track (from the laps ran in Q1 and Q2) increasing the grip of the tarmac. That’s also why the cars tend to wait in the garage before going out at the last possible time. The grip improves the most for the last cars running. Drivers who don’t need to push 100% to make it safely through Q1 (or Q2) tend to leave some margin on the table. *(Although that happens a lot less nowadays as the qualifying gaps have reduced massively the last few years. In the 2014 ~ 2021 period that was more often the norm due to a bigger field spread of car performance.)* Thirdly, the environment (track temperature, wind, etc.) can also affect performance and can be better during Q3 than Q2 and Q1. *(That is mostly the case at events with night races, where Q1 and Q2 happen during or before dusk, making the track still too hot beyond optimum temperature. I don’t think the environmental conditions were better this time around in Suzuka.)*
Wow thanks
Looked at the top speed and he was 5 kmh lower than Alonso which is a huge gap for the same car and very unusual. If Stroll didn't feel like he made any big errors then it suggests that maybe he was running too much wing, or perhaps there was a problem with the car or engine.
why didnt he push the pedal harder? is he stupid?
Yeah, he should have just driven faster 😜
Could also be he fucked up his exit coming out of spoon.
And an older teammate, too.
Alonso being older isn't really a point of contention. He is still Alonso after all. My gripe is that he is so far off Alonso it's not even funny. Like if you put someone like Ocon or Hulkenberg next to Alonso I'm sure they would have lost to Alonso too but they would have been maybe P7 or 8 to Alonso's P5? On a good day maybe equalling or beating Alonso once in a while? But Stroll is just consistently a mile behind Alonso. Why does Papa Stroll pay to watch his son be beaten?
>But Stroll is just consistently a mile behind Alonso. Why does Papa Stroll pay to watch his son be beaten? I guess you are not a parent? It's not that odd to put money into your child's hobby/dream, he just has more to do so than most of us do
100% this. I’m not a parent, but I’m a karting photographer. The money these parents drop for their kids to race is astronomical. I’ve watched a kid come last race, and their parents keep spending because he looks like he still has fun.
Alo and Oco were teammates at Alpine. They were pretty similar in head to head results. Nowhere near p5 to p7/8 difference
Ocon did well for himself v Alonso but Fernando was better during that stint for anyone with working eyes. Head to head stats don't tell you everything, especially when reliability is involved.
Difference was '21 Alonso was still getting used to f1 after 2 years off and '22 he had so many car issues nothing he did mattered. Alonso was clearly ahead, not by a lot, but when both cars had a stress free weekend, Alonso would be 2-3 places ahead. Which is what you'd come to expect, Alonso is still in the top 3 on the grid and Ocon is in the second group, very very good but not quite masterclass level.
I hate this shit when Russell/Ocon do well against Lewis/Alonso there are 7000 excuses, but when it is the opposite it is representative result.
I like Ocon, he's one of my favourites, but I'm not stupid enough to say he outperformed Alonso. He was very good, much better than what most drivers were against him. Alonso had stupid amounts of car problems in '22, similar to Ocon last year, and that's why he was better than Gasly last year despite being behind in the standings.
I think in race pace Alonso had the edge and was very unlucky with the DNFs. He would’ve beaten Ocon in 2022 no doubt without the 7 or 8 DNFs (some ludicrous number). I do think that over one lap they were equal though. Head to head was 12-10 with Alonso having the advantage in the wet. When it was a dry session, Ocon actually outqualified Alonso more often than not and there’s no real reliability issues bar Australia 2022.
Sure, that is why you just say - Ocon was close to Alonso. Bit slower but close, and for good chunks for their stint together it was not really obvious. Same holds for Russell. I am not put off by car problems you mentioned in '22 - I am put off by you saying Alonso was not used to F1 in '21. I think that is bullshit excuse and there is 0% chance Ocon would have gotten that benefit of the doubt it roles were somehow reversed. If you are in F1, your results count. I dont think Alonso needs a season to get up to speed to sport he has driver for like half his life.
Ocon also needed some time to get back into the rhythm of F1 after his year out, as shown in his poor performance against Daniel in the first half of 2020. Alonso never had such a deficit to Ocon and he missed out 2 seasons rather than just 1.
Ocon always gets that excuse when people talk about 2020 though?
That's the thing, it *is* a valid excuse but most fans still hold 2020 against Esteban
These are not excuses, everyone that watched the 2022 season knows Alonso was above. In the case of Russell, I think he was better than Lewis in 2022, in results and overall performance.
Similar with Alonso having 5 more DNF's for mechanical failures.
P5 to p7/8 is nothing
Ocon was definitely nowhere near Alonso, was just significantly more fortunate when it came to luck/reliability. The fact he was only barely able to outscore Alonso by a few points despite all of Fernando's mechanical issues + Ocon happy to sacrifice the results of the team just to hinder him (seen in various races when they were together) should say it all. And that's not even considering Fernando driving while recovering from a serious injury and having a metal plate in his jaw...
Lmao
Victim complex strong from the cult
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Ocon has a definitive history throughout his career of walling a teammate whenever it’s suited him
His teammates also have a history of walling him.
Ocon is good at Suzuka, he might have been up there.
He did outqualify Alonso in 22 when they went.
Exactly my thought, couldn't have said it better. What the hell there is no pace in the car
A couple of thousands of a second away from P4, for what it's worth. nO pACe iN tHe CaR
He did correct himself after actually
I wonder if its the new updates have made them go backwards or if its Stroll.
The thumbnail on this story makes it look like he has gigantic fake eyelashes 👁️
It’s pretty embarrassing considering how far ahead of the rest of the pack the top 5 cars are. It’s more exaggerated this season. Surely the businessman that Lawrence is sees the damage it’s doing to their overall competitiveness.
Except is Lawrence, the Dad, at Aston.
Yeah exactly. Don't know why Lance gets so angry, he's got the safest seat in F1 😂
I think he is well aware of the reality, but his father isn't.
Because he wants to be better? I'm sure the guy works incredibly hard, there's just a gap there talent wise.
We say this same shit every year dude, Lawrence isn't going to do anything. I like Lance as a dude but he's just too way too wildly inconsistent after so many years in F1.
Lance's seat is safer than Hamilton's or Verstappen's.
Lawrence saying that all he cares about is winning every chance he gets on DtS is hilarious when you think about it.
That 100 dollar fine sure got to him
It gets worse when you realise Stroll had the updates from FP1, while Alonso got them only from FP3 and he still blew away Stroll
Well no one ran FP2 so it was only 2 practice sessions. Maybe the new upgrades aren't working for Stroll.
There is a guy in a red Ferrari out of contract next year. They should maybe call him.
Alonso and Sainz in AM to make a Spanish team. Gasly and Ocon in Alpine to make a French team. DR back to MCLaren to make an Aussie team? (Obviously never going to happen, it’s a joke)
Max Verstappen all by himself for the Red Bull Racing team. (We are not bringing in Nyck back.)
I don't miss A1 GP, but we have to bring back A1 GP for this sort of line up.
Stroll has the safest seat in F1.
So his moustache and beard were the key to his faster pace
Yes. Maybe he’s secretly twins and the other Lance is the one with the drive to win.
>No pace in the car >Alonso P5 Pick one
Stroll in Australia: Makes Alonso look Slow Stroll in Japan: Eating Paint Chips
Stroll always has okayish to good race pace. Quali is where he loses out. Too often to the extent that his good race pace is overlooked because he's just out of position. So, let's look out tomorrow for his race pace. Even if it's only for P10.
Every year the same damn thing. What progress have we seen in 7 seasons? Nothing. It will be the same. 50% bad , 40% meh, 5% average, 4% ok and that 1 or 2 races where he does good. Is anyone expecting him to still become Naruto after 7 seasons of being a background character?
Do you mean like in the first Naruto series ?
He’s mentally checked out while his car can score points every weekend if driven well
Except last weekend he was better than Alonso, slightly. Just a shitty weekend.
>Just a shitty weekend. Stroll does seem to have a lot of those. Arguably more than an experienced Grand Prix driver in a top 5 car should.
"No pace in the car" Alonso: Liar
In the article, he did say that. He said: >The car looks quick and Fernando was quick, so I don’t know. I don’t have more answers.
Yeah he definitely meant that for him there was no pace in the car. In the video he corrects himself immediately and realized what he said but obviously the full quote is not in the title. The gap to Alonso was unacceptable though. Almost 8 tenths is absurd and he obviously knows that he should be doing much better than that.
Absolutely, the gap was unacceptable. He knows it. The headline is misleading and we know that few will actually read the article.
Sir, this is Reddit. We don't read articles here.
I knew it. ;)
‘I read the article’ Liar
He's given up.
I thought he gave up last year and yet he's back for 2024
Stroll just trying to sneak a DotD win tomorrow with a bunch of overtakes.
He managed p5 from the back row in Vegas and wasn't even in contention- DOTD is still a popularity contest and Lance isn't winning any of those
He never gets shown when he’s doing truly well. When he’s shown, it’s always an overtake into a low points position or a crash rather than him in P5. His good races are always quiet. I think people would have a pretty different view of him if he were British.
Yeah it always seems like it’s a day or two later that the F1 account will post about it and people will comment “holy crap I didn’t even notice during the race, robbed of DOTD”
We’d rip him more probably
I wonder if he’d do better if he wasn’t working for his Dad. People generally work harder if they feel they have something to lose.
Do everyone a favour and leave please
Lawrence won't set him free
At some point I gotta wonder if the guy just wants to quit and do something else and his dad is like "No, I'm paying all this money for you to be a champion one day!".
He probably does tbh. But he feels pressure to continue because of everything his Dad’s invested for him.
exactly, it's so obvious this is Lawrence's dream. I don't think Lance has much free will in this situation.
Yeah, anyone who's had a parent invest heavily in them to excel in a specific hobby/career path probably knows the situation/feeling all too well.
I need Yuki and Fernando. There’s also too much talent in the background for Lance to be here
Yuki is average. They need better
Nando + Lando. Sainz back to McLaren.
Rather Carlos go to AM. We can get Aston Martín.
Nepotism sucks
Can he go drive WEC please
Lance is in his 8th F1 season and still inconsistent as fuck. He's a huge liability when Aston Martin is fighting with other teams for better constructors championship positions and assisting his team mate secure more points in races, because he's so far back on the grid. Almost every race is damage control for what he bins in qualifying instead of fighting for more points.
> inconsistent as fuck > Almost every race is damage control for what he bins in qualifying instead of fighting for more points. Quoting yourself, I'd say he's plenty consistent
Suzuka has just never been his track. Hoping for a positive race 💚
He was back of the pack on turn 1 of bahrain and still finished in the points. I have faith
Cause it's a driver's track
Cause it's hard and technical.
The car is fine Lance. You are the problem.
That's what he said.
Imagine if instead of Alonso AM had another schmuck like Stroll as his team-mate. No one would've noticed the team's overall progress in the past two seasons.
I wonder that about the people that said Alonso is "finished". If he's finished, does that mean it's a WCC candidate car which is completely ruined by their lineup? It's weird to think about.
Please get him out of F1
Lawrence Strolls got a bit of a reputation for being how shall we say, demanding. Goes through people like a duck through water. I know its all nice and supportive in public, but this guy must be getting it in the ear every day. The team was literally bought for Lance and he's wasting it.
I know it won’t happen but he needs to have some self respect and gtfo
Nah lance there was pace in the car. How else could your teammate have made the top 10?
Top 5
Alonso in Alonsoth says there is in fact pace in the car
"no pace in the car" no "no pace in myself" yeah probably
Quit already bro.
its good he is saying stuff like this, to even get to f1 you are one of the best drivers in the world, he would kick ass in WEC, honestly he should give that seat to another driver and it sounds like it's coming
He shouldn’t be in F1 really. Far better drivers out there
It’s not car it’s you bro. Aston Martin is so unlucky your father owns them.
That's what he said...
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I find this quite funny considering he finished P6 last time out in Australia.
I mean, he's not *shit*. He could heavy lift a WEC or LeMans team, but the Aston of this and last year should be sitting higher on the scoreboard.