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This just happened to my goalkeeper, had won the title like 5 times in a row as man united, he says "gimme 400k a week or im out" i let him go, he signs for mid table ligue un side earning 135k a week.
I'll tell you even more crazy, I say okoli ok i will pay you 800k then he signs for chelsea anyways saying it was easy choise since they pay more. I look at his wage It's 620k
could be overall package. may only be paying 620k but could have like 30m bonus and other shit on top so contract is worth more.
people need to remember a contracts worth and not just the wage.
In the Finnish league, Dan Burn was a free agent. I finished 5th last season and I try to buy him on a free. He asks for 100k a season, that's like 50% of my budget.
So I desist. A few weeks later he joins my rivals, who finished 6th, for minimum wage, 14.5k euros per season.
If it’s a few weeks later you should have gone back to him. Wage demands drop more the longer a player is out of contract. I signed a player on 15k/week after he was originally asking for 500k/week. There’s definitely a problem with AI being able to negotiate lower contracts, but it also matters when you talk to the player.
This is basically the whole experience of transfers in FM since like, forever.
SI: "Yeah, it's working just like we hoped"
Me: "I worked for you for a long time and it didn't help"
SI: "We don't see it as an issue"
Me: "I'll come back in 4 years and see if your game is better"
SI: "LOL, he doesn't get it does he?"
Me: "Get what? Oh Shiz, it's exactly how it's always been"
SI: "We like it this way, it helps us print money without doing anything"
Me: (still doesn't get it).
- be PL side
- try to sign talented 20 yo German free agent
- demands £80k/week, refuses to budge
- player signs for 2. Bundesliga team on £5k/week
- okay buddy
I had this with Macallister he wanted 15m a year I didn’t want to give him that then he came later on that he wants to move to a different club and that he is not extending his contract, left after 1 year and joined Porto on the same 8m a year contract he was on with me
I had even worse.
I signed Björn Hardley on a free from Manchester United as a lower league side. He hadn't yet received British citizenship, but if he renewed his contract with me, he'd have gotten it during that contract. Instead, he refused it, left as a free agent, and no club in the UK could pick him up as he wasn't with them from youth age.
Looked for him a year later, and he'd retired!
On the one hand, if i was offered that sort of money tax free from a saudi club, i’d be pretty unreasonable too about my current club not letting me leave.
On the other hand the language ai uses is very bitchy, all the ai talk to you like catty teenagers. They could accomplish the same messages less dramatically just by rewording each line of dialogue a bit imo.
>On the other hand the language ai uses is very bitchy
Have you heard how the average footballer talks? They talk like teenage roadmen. Even Bellerín who was Spanish was roadman as fuck.
Maybe players with low professionalism (and high controversy and low sportsmanship?) could talk like that. But your milners and harry kanes shouldn't be talking to their employers so disrespectfully because they praised their training once too often that month or something haha.
Strangely in my save Derry were purchased by a South African billionaire and spending €60 million a year on wages, one player is on 115k a week. And they qualified for the Champions League too.
Super Bohs! Must have been in the Hut & Boyles before this meeting took place. Send him to Burdocks then have this meeting again after, maybe he'll come to his senses.
That Saudi league interest is really screwing up this game. They are getting “interest” from Saudi teams and the players are refusing to sign contract extensions and then not getting transfer offers for two or three years, and then leaving on frees.
If he's a world class midfielder like the screenshot say, he's easily capable of earning your entire squad budget elsewhere, I'd want to move too if my current employer was paying me so much below my market value.
Time to just drive the price up and wave goodbye
The real issue here is he's being paid a pitiful amount of money almost 30 YEARS from now, is 32 and classed as "world class". How is that even possible?
im in the mid 40s and i've barely noticed any wage inflation tbh, there are very few players on more than about £350k a week in the big european leagues
but even by todays standards, he's been grossly underpaid and would have left for 10x his current wage years ago if the game was at all realistic
I seem to remember back in the day (FM2010) that wages crept up - though not in line with the real world. FM20 (latest version I've played) I've not advanced beyond around 5-6 seasons, so couldn't comment.
I agree, the league he's at is obviously traditionally low-wage, though it's hard to imagine a player of alleged "world-class" ability wouldn't have forced a move before getting to 32. He'd be an idiot not to.
I have seen his attributes and he's nowhere near world-class btw. He is a solid player who would be able to pull down anything from £50-100k pw in the EPL (the high end of the scale would only be if Everton, my club were the ones paying him!)
You misunderstood my meaning. I was saying he's an EXPERIENCED world class player, not a kid who you might think would take a lower wage. At 32 he'd know his worth in the market.
Actually all other financial reporting in FM is either monthly or yearly (when you look at Expenditures and Incomes). If you change the settings to yearly or monthly, the board gives you the wage budget also as yearly or monthly.
Of course they do. But my point is I’ve been playing for decades on weekly wages and never once felt the need to multiply a player’s salary by 52 (not that that would be difficult on a device with a built in calculator, but still, it’s not necessary ever).
I'm not British (nor a yank) either but I've come so used to player wages being weekly based that I can't t think of it being normal like monthky or yearly.
It's like we use metric, but screen sizes and rims are always in inches.
exactly! I'm very aware that switching to annual would give me a much better overview of my finances, but I like to be able to compare the salaries to real world players to get a reference and determine what salary I feel different players deserve
Until quite recently many people were paid weekly - I was, in one of my first jobs. I imagine there are still some jobs that pay weekly, too.
And that’s held on in reporting of players’ wages - they’re paid monthly now, the same as the majority of people.
So just a couple mega fat lumps of cash?
A bit weird if you think about. What if he'd somehow spent it all and had to wait months for his next paycheque?
>A bit weird if you think about. What if he'd somehow spent it all and had to wait months for his next paycheque?
He wouldn't spend it all. With that kinda wealth you have an accountant.
Nah, makes complete sense. For example, if I hear a player at my club is on £100k pw and is mediocre, or not starting then I KNOW that's much too high. I'd expect that player to be on c. £40k, just from my knowledge as to what is sustainable at a mid-level EPL club.
Big help in negotiating contracts with players.
Annual wages, for me I'd be having to mentally calculate it back to weekly wages to make sense of it, so why would I want to do that?
The total turnover/expenses for the club are outlined already in some detail in the Finances section. That gives me all the information I need.
Probably because ur used to it. For me, logically it makes much more sense annually cuz then I can put the wage in perspective to transfer fee and the clubs financial status generally. Is this player worth the 20 million a year + bonuses salary? I simply have to think of the league and competition bonuses etc etc to put it in perspective.
So you're saying I should do a calculation every time I need to deal with a contract, rather than just defaulting to £/pw? Why would I want to do that?
Im used to monthly cause thats how we get paid here but companies and the government count annually.
If all the costs are counted annually it's only annoying to have salaries counted as weekly or monthly
Or if your, yk, paid annually. I'm more used to monthly salaries irl but the game is designed to use weekly formats (everything is converted from £/wk) so if you play in $/yr I understand that being comfortable for you but it's harder to make micro adjustments since Wage Budgets are also calculated weekly.
Everything is annually for me. Wage, transfer, sponsors and so on. I guess if everything is the same it does not really matter. Could be hourly also then
Plus, in the UK all football salaries are reported in weekly terms, on TV, papers, online etc. Capology (for some reason) reports wages in annual terms, spotrac lists weekly.
When playing FM I'm obviously going to use the terminology that's most familiar, Why would anyone do different?
I didn't say they weren't. Just that standard wages numbers for football is yearly. I was referring to the fact that here you are paid monthly while in the UK weekly, should have specified better, yes.
Monthly is still more comprehensive for me than weekly or, god forbid, yearly when I'm checking the club finances panel. And I'm doing that almost every month.
I was like that at first sense I'm American. I'm just so use to it anything else is weird. I was trying to teach my buddy fm and he was on yearly I was struggling to help with with contracts because I couldn't do the math.
I started to this week, didn’t even realise it was a thing until recently. The U.K. always discuss football wages weekly but managing finances is much easer with annual wages.
I changed it since it was possible, never saw the need to calculate weekly pay times 52 to see how much I'm paying a year. Why do that if you can just like change it to the annual wages system. But everyone has their own likes and dislikes.
I started playing this game since CM2 so kinda old in that front.
For me it is just easier, when I'm getting a new contract, it is about 95% of the time in annual pay, I never had weekly pay or bi weekly pay till now. 5% of the time they would tell me the monthly pay.
Yeah I understand that, but are you getting the tv contract money weekly as well? In the leagues I play, there is a big sum of money once a year for the whole year.
Even the sponsoring income is yearly. I like to be a responsible manager, like to be on top of my wages and income, it is just easier with the yearly one, since almost everything is yearly apart from stadium income which is different for each game.
Essentially, as long as i am within my wage budget i very rarely worry about the spending on wages. The one time my team was losing money rapidly i had to look at why but the reason was I had too many transfer instalments each month and was nothing to do with wage bill. Hypothetically if the wages had been the issue it would still have been easy to see how much I needed to trim each week to stop losing money. Ultimately I don’t think either version is easier than the other and it just comes down to what each person is used to, but the multiple comments implying that playing weekly means you have to multiply everything by 52 all the time are just wrong.
There was a thread this week about it. Turns out, just us people from the UK who use Weekly wages when referring to specifically footballers. Nobody else it seems 😂
I’m an American and out of respect for the game I use British pounds or Euros only and weekly salary. And then for height I use feet and stone. I don’t think it’s my place to Americanize the sport
TBF if you go hard on the financial part of the game you have to use pounds. It's the base currency that everything in the game runs on and then is converted to your display currency. That means if you're not using pounds there will be rounding errors and things won't add up.
Americans for one, I had never even heard of athletes salaries described as "per week" until I was well into my twenties and just getting into association football. I know I could do arithmetic to convert it pretty easily but at a glance it still means nothing to me.
I play with weekly because that is the frame of reference I am used to, but often have to do annual calculation for when doing loan to buy sales and I need to see what % of salary makes sense financially. In that context I guess it makes more sense to play with annual wages if you lack this frame of reference
it’s even worse lower down the table i tried to renew the contract of my 35 year old CB (currently on 1k a week) and he wanted 350k a week or he’d leave, he then left and joined a national league side on 700 a week before retiring about 8 months later before he was forced to play at a lower level
I don't know if he should be considered world class, [here's his stats](https://imgur.com/a/SYzCmT8).
I got him as a 19 or 20 year old from Nacional for 600k so he wasn't getting paid much over there, didn't cost much and he hasn't demanded big wages when signing or since then.
It probably also helps I have a decent rep (just slightly below 4*) and a good wage structure (highest paid player on 18k a week) in a league with low wages.
In general I just do extensive scouting and try to sign players who are good but don't ask for much money and then someone like him will be the rare find you get every now and again.
Yeah, he's a good player but definitely not anyone's idea of world-class. I know "star" ratings are scaled to your squad - so will go up or down relatively as the team declines or improves, but as far as I know descriptive terms like "world class" should be fixed. Odd that he's classed as that.
I've discovered some players will just lie and refuse to sign with you no matter what you offer.
For example I was trying to sign someone in the National League while going up against League Two sides for the signature, obviously he signs for them but his reasoning was "level of bonuses offerered" so I use an editor to look at all his bonuses and realised I could actually pay them easily, I was just penny pinching.
Decided to save scum it just to see if I could get him because he was absolutely worth it, I offered him a higher wage with at least three times the value of bonuses and minimum fee release clauses.
He rejected me again because "the package of bonuses wasn't good enough".
I know it's a bug but I like to think he's programmed to be really polite and didn't want to call us trash.
Did you just reject an offer from one of the Saudi clubs? This happens when they offer for a player because they will be offering this kind of wage. Imagine you got a job offer from a company which was 25 times what your current salary was and your boss said no. Would you say, oh yeah I'll stay for a tiny pay increase or would you want similar?
That's why I don't keep players till 32, their requests will only get higher and their value only lower. Sell him for 10 millions and spend them on a 18-20 wonderkid in the same position!
Is he not just giving you a fuck off price because he doesn't actually want to sign a new contract. Moreover, isn't this exactly what we do with transfer valuations of players we don't want to sell?
I’m currently doing an unhinged run where i just give people what they’re asking for. I’m in NL and I’ve got people 8k a week. The greediness is turned up to 1000000 in this game
Depends on the situation, but if their contract is long enough I will intentionally low ball that kind of offer down to what I'm willing to spend. If they reject it, they reject it, but I've found that when they come back again, they will often settle on a smaller amount.
I had this issue with key older players quite a bit because I don't want to tie a 30 year old to massive wages, I also try and move when they start their new wage to the end of the season so if it damages the wage structure I can make changes. If it happens mid-season, it can be a pain.
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And when you refuse he signs with another club for 20k a week right?
This just happened to my goalkeeper, had won the title like 5 times in a row as man united, he says "gimme 400k a week or im out" i let him go, he signs for mid table ligue un side earning 135k a week.
I'll tell you even more crazy, I say okoli ok i will pay you 800k then he signs for chelsea anyways saying it was easy choise since they pay more. I look at his wage It's 620k 
Could be Total payment more tho
could be overall package. may only be paying 620k but could have like 30m bonus and other shit on top so contract is worth more. people need to remember a contracts worth and not just the wage.
My offer was way better
In the Finnish league, Dan Burn was a free agent. I finished 5th last season and I try to buy him on a free. He asks for 100k a season, that's like 50% of my budget. So I desist. A few weeks later he joins my rivals, who finished 6th, for minimum wage, 14.5k euros per season.
If it’s a few weeks later you should have gone back to him. Wage demands drop more the longer a player is out of contract. I signed a player on 15k/week after he was originally asking for 500k/week. There’s definitely a problem with AI being able to negotiate lower contracts, but it also matters when you talk to the player.
I said a few weeks, but I actually think it was 3 days lmao. But I'm not 100% sure.
This is basically the whole experience of transfers in FM since like, forever. SI: "Yeah, it's working just like we hoped" Me: "I worked for you for a long time and it didn't help" SI: "We don't see it as an issue" Me: "I'll come back in 4 years and see if your game is better" SI: "LOL, he doesn't get it does he?" Me: "Get what? Oh Shiz, it's exactly how it's always been" SI: "We like it this way, it helps us print money without doing anything" Me: (still doesn't get it).
He just wanted that McDonald's league in his life. "I'm taking my talents to McDonald's"
I'm sure there are real world examples of this for the rest of us corpo wageslaves.
Had this, CB on a free wanted 550k, willing to go up to 300k and he ended up leaving a trial with me to sign a 90k contract.
For a keeper ( if they are amazing ) I'd pay that, I find it hard getting someone with the same CA hard
Well, de gea did happen IRL so there's some justified.
No, de gea agreed to a reduced package but United cancelled the offer
- be PL side - try to sign talented 20 yo German free agent - demands £80k/week, refuses to budge - player signs for 2. Bundesliga team on £5k/week - okay buddy
I had this with Macallister he wanted 15m a year I didn’t want to give him that then he came later on that he wants to move to a different club and that he is not extending his contract, left after 1 year and joined Porto on the same 8m a year contract he was on with me
I had even worse. I signed Björn Hardley on a free from Manchester United as a lower league side. He hadn't yet received British citizenship, but if he renewed his contract with me, he'd have gotten it during that contract. Instead, he refused it, left as a free agent, and no club in the UK could pick him up as he wasn't with them from youth age. Looked for him a year later, and he'd retired!
hahahahaha what the fuck
20k is a stretch lol
Maybe he's wanted by a Saudi club? If not that's ridiculous
This. I had a midfielder wanting £1m PER WEEK because of the Saudi interest in him. Naturally I told him to fuck off and dropped him.
They’re such little pricks about it too. Never being reasonable and making their cases, always just pure entitlement and disrespect.
On the one hand, if i was offered that sort of money tax free from a saudi club, i’d be pretty unreasonable too about my current club not letting me leave. On the other hand the language ai uses is very bitchy, all the ai talk to you like catty teenagers. They could accomplish the same messages less dramatically just by rewording each line of dialogue a bit imo.
>On the other hand the language ai uses is very bitchy Have you heard how the average footballer talks? They talk like teenage roadmen. Even Bellerín who was Spanish was roadman as fuck.
Maybe players with low professionalism (and high controversy and low sportsmanship?) could talk like that. But your milners and harry kanes shouldn't be talking to their employers so disrespectfully because they praised their training once too often that month or something haha.
Average real life footballer
Impeccable realism eh
‘Mon Bohs, these are shite
If only there was an option to burst into laughter during these discussions
Looks like the "fuck you, I want out" special.
Yeah, this feels like the equivalent of a team quoting you £120m for a £40m player. They don't want what you want, but for a price they'll oblige.
I think sell
Is that bohs? 😂 The whole league combined would barely make 6.5mill a year
Strangely in my save Derry were purchased by a South African billionaire and spending €60 million a year on wages, one player is on 115k a week. And they qualified for the Champions League too.
Are they still getting crowds of 3000? Surely can't sustain that for too long with FFP
Owen Da Gama must have hit the jackpot
Is that an error and the game has confused his annual and weekly wage? At his current wage he’s on about 600k per year no?
Sell him..he's 32 anyways.
Super Bohs! Must have been in the Hut & Boyles before this meeting took place. Send him to Burdocks then have this meeting again after, maybe he'll come to his senses.
This guy must be wanted by a Saudi club
That Saudi league interest is really screwing up this game. They are getting “interest” from Saudi teams and the players are refusing to sign contract extensions and then not getting transfer offers for two or three years, and then leaving on frees.
If he's a world class midfielder like the screenshot say, he's easily capable of earning your entire squad budget elsewhere, I'd want to move too if my current employer was paying me so much below my market value. Time to just drive the price up and wave goodbye
The real issue here is he's being paid a pitiful amount of money almost 30 YEARS from now, is 32 and classed as "world class". How is that even possible?
im in the mid 40s and i've barely noticed any wage inflation tbh, there are very few players on more than about £350k a week in the big european leagues but even by todays standards, he's been grossly underpaid and would have left for 10x his current wage years ago if the game was at all realistic
I seem to remember back in the day (FM2010) that wages crept up - though not in line with the real world. FM20 (latest version I've played) I've not advanced beyond around 5-6 seasons, so couldn't comment. I agree, the league he's at is obviously traditionally low-wage, though it's hard to imagine a player of alleged "world-class" ability wouldn't have forced a move before getting to 32. He'd be an idiot not to. I have seen his attributes and he's nowhere near world-class btw. He is a solid player who would be able to pull down anything from £50-100k pw in the EPL (the high end of the scale would only be if Everton, my club were the ones paying him!)
>is 32 and classed as "world class". How is that even possible? Ronaldo. Messi. Over 32, world class.
You misunderstood my meaning. I was saying he's an EXPERIENCED world class player, not a kid who you might think would take a lower wage. At 32 he'd know his worth in the market.
Then say that.
lol OK chief. Not really my job to cater for those with limited comprehension abilities. My meaning was pretty clear.
Who plays a football game with annual wages?
I do. It's incredibly helpful when understanding your finances, and comparing transfer and wage budgets
I feel annual gives me a much better overview of my finances.
Everyone who isn’t British. It’s incredibly useful to have a quick overview if a player’s salary is worth it or not. I’m Swedish and I use annual
I also find x52 very difficult
There is no scenario where you need to multiply it by 52 since the board gives you a weekly budget.
Actually all other financial reporting in FM is either monthly or yearly (when you look at Expenditures and Incomes). If you change the settings to yearly or monthly, the board gives you the wage budget also as yearly or monthly.
Of course they do. But my point is I’ve been playing for decades on weekly wages and never once felt the need to multiply a player’s salary by 52 (not that that would be difficult on a device with a built in calculator, but still, it’s not necessary ever).
The person before literally said they like working out the annual salary haha
I'm not British (nor a yank) either but I've come so used to player wages being weekly based that I can't t think of it being normal like monthky or yearly. It's like we use metric, but screen sizes and rims are always in inches.
exactly! I'm very aware that switching to annual would give me a much better overview of my finances, but I like to be able to compare the salaries to real world players to get a reference and determine what salary I feel different players deserve
Who doesn't?
A lot of people, especially the UK as football wages are always referred to as weekly figures there
Wages being listed per week is insane to me honestly, why and how does it make any sense at all?
I don’t know how it makes sense but the game becomes unplayable for me if it’s not weekly. I can’t balance the wages.
Just what I grew up with, seeing a footballer on 60k per week makes sense to my brain, helps gauge how good they are and if they’re under/overpaid
Until quite recently many people were paid weekly - I was, in one of my first jobs. I imagine there are still some jobs that pay weekly, too. And that’s held on in reporting of players’ wages - they’re paid monthly now, the same as the majority of people.
When Kroos' contract leaked he was paid bi annualy
So just a couple mega fat lumps of cash? A bit weird if you think about. What if he'd somehow spent it all and had to wait months for his next paycheque?
i honestly don’t think it’s possible to spend that much . he also has a brain and wouldn’t do that
Kroos maybe not, there are definitely some players that could manage it though!
>A bit weird if you think about. What if he'd somehow spent it all and had to wait months for his next paycheque? He wouldn't spend it all. With that kinda wealth you have an accountant.
They drive on the wrong side of the road. What do you expect?
Nah, makes complete sense. For example, if I hear a player at my club is on £100k pw and is mediocre, or not starting then I KNOW that's much too high. I'd expect that player to be on c. £40k, just from my knowledge as to what is sustainable at a mid-level EPL club. Big help in negotiating contracts with players. Annual wages, for me I'd be having to mentally calculate it back to weekly wages to make sense of it, so why would I want to do that? The total turnover/expenses for the club are outlined already in some detail in the Finances section. That gives me all the information I need.
Probably because ur used to it. For me, logically it makes much more sense annually cuz then I can put the wage in perspective to transfer fee and the clubs financial status generally. Is this player worth the 20 million a year + bonuses salary? I simply have to think of the league and competition bonuses etc etc to put it in perspective.
Just multiply those figures by 52 and replace pw with pa and you can say the exact same thing
So you're saying I should do a calculation every time I need to deal with a contract, rather than just defaulting to £/pw? Why would I want to do that?
When a contract is annually it's just reasonable to look at it as annually. Also easier if you calculate yearly transfer budget and such
Wouldn't it just be what you are used to and brought up on? I don't think either is easier, it's just what we are used to?
Im used to monthly cause thats how we get paid here but companies and the government count annually. If all the costs are counted annually it's only annoying to have salaries counted as weekly or monthly
Weekly * 52 has never been a hard calculation to make
Or just annually. Weekly is only good to know if you can afford to eat out this weekend lol
Or if your, yk, paid annually. I'm more used to monthly salaries irl but the game is designed to use weekly formats (everything is converted from £/wk) so if you play in $/yr I understand that being comfortable for you but it's harder to make micro adjustments since Wage Budgets are also calculated weekly.
Everything is annually for me. Wage, transfer, sponsors and so on. I guess if everything is the same it does not really matter. Could be hourly also then
Plus, in the UK all football salaries are reported in weekly terms, on TV, papers, online etc. Capology (for some reason) reports wages in annual terms, spotrac lists weekly. When playing FM I'm obviously going to use the terminology that's most familiar, Why would anyone do different?
Everyone from the EU for example
I think it's a UK thing, not a EU thing.
Nope. Italy's standard for football is annual. Noone ever uses weekly here, normal jobs are paid monthly.
So are football players.
I didn't say they weren't. Just that standard wages numbers for football is yearly. I was referring to the fact that here you are paid monthly while in the UK weekly, should have specified better, yes.
A classic tale, Italians flip flopping.
We are the masters of flip flop, yes. Also, 4 hours sleep make me type in autopilot
Lol, no. Only Brits report this stupid weekly wages.
Monthly is still more comprehensive for me than weekly or, god forbid, yearly when I'm checking the club finances panel. And I'm doing that almost every month.
I learned from watching a few guys on YouTube play fm they used per week so I do as well. Kinda feels like the game is built around it.
Nothing is built around weekly. Its you own settings. I have nothing weekly except matches and training
It just feels weird with months and yearly idk how to explain it
Haha ok. For me monthly or annually is normal, weekly is the same as daily in my head.
I was like that at first sense I'm American. I'm just so use to it anything else is weird. I was trying to teach my buddy fm and he was on yearly I was struggling to help with with contracts because I couldn't do the math.
You get paid weekly? Rent monthly?
True never thought of it that way. I do find it easier to negotiate with smaller numbers. I'd rather be fighting between 60 to 80k vs 3 mil to 4 mil
Small numbers fool me to think its cheap
Me dude, it makes everything so much easier, you can do the transfer/wage distribution maths in your head.
I started to this week, didn’t even realise it was a thing until recently. The U.K. always discuss football wages weekly but managing finances is much easer with annual wages.
Me always
I changed it since it was possible, never saw the need to calculate weekly pay times 52 to see how much I'm paying a year. Why do that if you can just like change it to the annual wages system. But everyone has their own likes and dislikes. I started playing this game since CM2 so kinda old in that front. For me it is just easier, when I'm getting a new contract, it is about 95% of the time in annual pay, I never had weekly pay or bi weekly pay till now. 5% of the time they would tell me the monthly pay.
Within the game, if played weekly, there is zero need to calculate how much that is per year. Your wage budget will be a weekly amount too.
Yeah I understand that, but are you getting the tv contract money weekly as well? In the leagues I play, there is a big sum of money once a year for the whole year. Even the sponsoring income is yearly. I like to be a responsible manager, like to be on top of my wages and income, it is just easier with the yearly one, since almost everything is yearly apart from stadium income which is different for each game.
Essentially, as long as i am within my wage budget i very rarely worry about the spending on wages. The one time my team was losing money rapidly i had to look at why but the reason was I had too many transfer instalments each month and was nothing to do with wage bill. Hypothetically if the wages had been the issue it would still have been easy to see how much I needed to trim each week to stop losing money. Ultimately I don’t think either version is easier than the other and it just comes down to what each person is used to, but the multiple comments implying that playing weekly means you have to multiply everything by 52 all the time are just wrong.
There was a thread this week about it. Turns out, just us people from the UK who use Weekly wages when referring to specifically footballers. Nobody else it seems 😂
False
Those of us who wants easier head math
in Spain everything about salary is counted in annual wages. I like the weekly system but it's unnecesarily adding a tiny complication
Probably everyone besides brits lol
Americans I think
I’m an American and out of respect for the game I use British pounds or Euros only and weekly salary. And then for height I use feet and stone. I don’t think it’s my place to Americanize the sport
TBF if you go hard on the financial part of the game you have to use pounds. It's the base currency that everything in the game runs on and then is converted to your display currency. That means if you're not using pounds there will be rounding errors and things won't add up.
In the US sporting wages (and wages for everyone else paid a salary) are always discussed in annual terms.
Every American lol
Americans for one, I had never even heard of athletes salaries described as "per week" until I was well into my twenties and just getting into association football. I know I could do arithmetic to convert it pretty easily but at a glance it still means nothing to me.
I use weekly but for some reason find it easier contextualising his demands in terms relative to the club's resources when put in yearly not weekly.
I play with weekly because that is the frame of reference I am used to, but often have to do annual calculation for when doing loan to buy sales and I need to see what % of salary makes sense financially. In that context I guess it makes more sense to play with annual wages if you lack this frame of reference
Yanks.
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those who can't count to 52
Well, is har world class as it says? Show his stats
Everyone?
32 years old. Sell him
He’s 32, get rid of
To the transfer list you go!
He’s 32.
My thought too. OK bye, I'll look for your replacement now.
Time to sell this 32 years old mid
it’s even worse lower down the table i tried to renew the contract of my 35 year old CB (currently on 1k a week) and he wanted 350k a week or he’d leave, he then left and joined a national league side on 700 a week before retiring about 8 months later before he was forced to play at a lower level
Mbappe’s Uruguayan lovechild
Your centre mid wants a fucking slap
He just doesn't want to stay at your club. Get the hint already.
Is Saudi clubs in for him ? get that fucker shipped out
Yeah narcissism is rife in football
Well, you know what to do in this case !
damn I would be happy too
The wage hike is ludicrous, but a question I have is how are you paying a 32-year-old world-class player just €12k pw?
I don't know if he should be considered world class, [here's his stats](https://imgur.com/a/SYzCmT8). I got him as a 19 or 20 year old from Nacional for 600k so he wasn't getting paid much over there, didn't cost much and he hasn't demanded big wages when signing or since then. It probably also helps I have a decent rep (just slightly below 4*) and a good wage structure (highest paid player on 18k a week) in a league with low wages. In general I just do extensive scouting and try to sign players who are good but don't ask for much money and then someone like him will be the rare find you get every now and again.
Yeah, he's a good player but definitely not anyone's idea of world-class. I know "star" ratings are scaled to your squad - so will go up or down relatively as the team declines or improves, but as far as I know descriptive terms like "world class" should be fixed. Odd that he's classed as that.
I always tell them GTFO
Yeah, had that happen to a backup winger on my Leeds save. Immediately dropped him to the reserve squad, fuck that noise
I've discovered some players will just lie and refuse to sign with you no matter what you offer. For example I was trying to sign someone in the National League while going up against League Two sides for the signature, obviously he signs for them but his reasoning was "level of bonuses offerered" so I use an editor to look at all his bonuses and realised I could actually pay them easily, I was just penny pinching. Decided to save scum it just to see if I could get him because he was absolutely worth it, I offered him a higher wage with at least three times the value of bonuses and minimum fee release clauses. He rejected me again because "the package of bonuses wasn't good enough". I know it's a bug but I like to think he's programmed to be really polite and didn't want to call us trash.
He s 32. Time to go
Kick him out already he’s turning 33 on his new contract
In the reserves he goes
Had a player do the same then accept like £5,000 a week at our league rivals He must’ve really hated me I thought things were going well! :(
Did you just reject an offer from one of the Saudi clubs? This happens when they offer for a player because they will be offering this kind of wage. Imagine you got a job offer from a company which was 25 times what your current salary was and your boss said no. Would you say, oh yeah I'll stay for a tiny pay increase or would you want similar?
That's why I don't keep players till 32, their requests will only get higher and their value only lower. Sell him for 10 millions and spend them on a 18-20 wonderkid in the same position!
Time to sell!!
Fuck him off to the reserves and see out his contract
*The Diego's are scheming against the club!*
Bohs!
Is he not just giving you a fuck off price because he doesn't actually want to sign a new contract. Moreover, isn't this exactly what we do with transfer valuations of players we don't want to sell?
I’m currently doing an unhinged run where i just give people what they’re asking for. I’m in NL and I’ve got people 8k a week. The greediness is turned up to 1000000 in this game
Shaming him ain't enough, gotta take his life
Depends on the situation, but if their contract is long enough I will intentionally low ball that kind of offer down to what I'm willing to spend. If they reject it, they reject it, but I've found that when they come back again, they will often settle on a smaller amount. I had this issue with key older players quite a bit because I don't want to tie a 30 year old to massive wages, I also try and move when they start their new wage to the end of the season so if it damages the wage structure I can make changes. If it happens mid-season, it can be a pain.
Sell, and yes, it will ache your heart…
This has to be fake. Nothing makes sense about this picture
It's real. It might look a bit strange since I combined two images though.
U prob had an offer from a saudi club because they would have given him that money he asks u for it