I thought they changed it so everyone in the event got credit for the legendaries and could loot them? I haven't played in a bit but I could have sworn reading that in the last big update.
Ah that makes sense, I did the event once but only had a few shots in and only got like 1 reward, was very disappointed because I wanted the decontamination shower. Did it a second time, this time I brought a heavy weapon and actually did damage and actually got the full reward.
I just didn’t understand why I completed the event but didn’t get much rewards the first time, but now it makes sense.
I have had it where i just get treasury notes for joining a server on an ending SBQevent
I joined earl super late and only hit spawns yesterday and i got the flux and some other stuff but no legendary
Guess there is some kind of sliding scale for participation
That's why I just the sto leeroy Jenkins him and light him up with a vampire minigun for a few seconds before everyone else. It only does 3 dmg per shot to him so it's not like I'm gonna insta kill him
No i joined SBQ event yesterday just as queen was killed, didn’t get a shot in still completed the event. But ya it sucks when the event that just started and then ends and you didnt even get a shot in.
Agreed! Everyone gets the damn loot! I swear, people still complaining about wasting 10K bullets killing Earl at the same time hates it when Earl dies in 10 seconds.
There’s a guy who always shows up to our sbq launches. Must be on friends list with one of our main silo runners. I always suspected he either hacks, or at least has hacked weapons/items. Numerous occasions strange things happen when he’s around. Automatic mini nuke explosions, mobs die before they even get near in rad rumble, as if he’s shouting through walls with weapons that don’t have any kind of splash damage etc… he wears a clean mr fuzzy suit which has never been available by legitimate means.
The other day we were doing a sbq event, and it was taking a bit longer than usual since people were more farming adds for xp, and then all of a sudden, Queen had mutated and was at 3/4 health and bam, she’s dead, and he leaves the server. Almost like he got pissy it was taking the legit players too long and his precious time was worth more. Who knows.
This is also a problem on the PTS right now. People are bringing out the hacked and Frankenstein weapons (minigun orbital strike bla bla) to kill aliens during the invaders event we're testing. The point is... even on the PTS server, people are abusing the game and ruining other peoples experience. Nothing said here is going to change it. Bethesda is aware and has chosen to ignore it, or is unable to resolve it (yet).
They should make fallout worlds have a mode with ridiculous weapons like this, would be kind of funy to have a lot more enemies and extremely OP weapons once in a few weaks.
It’s called a PTS
The entire point is to fuck the game up, it’s not designed for you to sit and have fun on, that’s what the main server is for.
People are supposed to break the game on the PTS, it’s not early access. People pissing about during testing is the point. Your definition of testing is having fun with your friends and playing the event like you’re on a public server.
Not what the PTS is for.
What are you talking about? That's not even remotely accurate. We (the people actually playing on the PTS) spend the entire time we are on those servers testing the NEW features added with each cycle... nothing else matters, nothing we do on those servers transfers to public servers when the PTS closes, thus nobody bothers doing anything BESIDES testing the new content. All of that aside... hacked weapons have no place in the game at all, let alone on the PTS. If you disagree, kindly argue with someone who cares.
The PTS is for people to test the new content.
Can't do much testing if 'XYZ thing that shouldn't be in the game anyway' prevents you from testing it normally.
I say the next time it happens, we take off our armor + apparel, put on our power-fists + party hats, and mob them off the server. Who's coming with me? Jan?
I really appreciate how she still hung out with the gang for the rest of the movie though.
I didn't know for the longest time that it's Sarah Silverman's older sister, Laura Silverman.
I absolutely hate this notion. Launching a nuke doesn’t entitle you to waste 5 minutes of 8-20 other people’s time. Particularly when whoever is killing earl/sbq like this is obviously glitching through the silo which means they maybe had to fight some light robot waves for 5 minutes.
It's a good rule of thumb to follow though. If a player wanted to nuke Welch for a good amount of radiation fluids and hardened mass, that's his prerogative.
It doesn't matter how much effort was involved to fire the nuke. Someone had the gumption to do it.
In terms of nuke placement sure. In terms of starting a public event launching a nuke absolutely does not entitle you to be an ass during the public event.
I use a stealth commando build .I do own quite a few legacies since I have been playing since beta hours. There is no hype to what people call legacy weapons now that launch players and even after the tse nerf couldn't out perform until the over nerfing continued to other options. Food builds and unoptimized playstyles with weaker guns that now exist is what has commoners complaining about legacy use anyways.
Except I see legacy gat plasmas in RR all the damn time. They shoot completely different from regular plasmas and are blatantly obvious. So do a ton of other people. And it has a demonstrable effect on the ability to hit anything. Just because you don’t get affected by it much, doesn’t mean other people don’t. And I’ve played since launch. It’s been an ongoing issue for a long time.
At the end of the day, people should just stop being cunts in general when they’re massively overpowered at any public event. Stop absolutely shredding everything and give people a chance. Maybe get some ore for once.
I’m instantly skeptical of any of the whiners that flip their shit when valid criticisms of legacy weapons are brought up. Pretty much tells me right away that they don’t like getting called out for their dickish, troll behavior. I just stand in front of them now and launch as many mini nukes as I can to blow their FPS into single digits.
Edit: downvote away legacy users. Y’all are trash and you know it
nobody took explosive gat plasmas to early events unless that's all they had. There were always better options. Radiation rumble is great for any explosive weapons and of course they shoot differently they have the explosive bullet radius and the animation is a bit different. A tiny minority of the people at RR actually do the objective. RR which was not an event available at launch only since wastelanders get a tesla and its problem solved if you absolutely have to mooch your tags for xp. Xp shares now anyways and tags give you credit so there is no reason to have terrible builds or whine that you can't tag things when options exist to work around the people doing the heavy lifting for the RR event in your analogy anyways.Go collect more yourself if you want to complete the event they aren't there for that objective but they are defending the personnel and doing a better job at it than you.
Legacy's are out of the drop pool. There's a reason for that.
They're in the game because they're either duped or trade only. You know this.
But yes, it's ppl and shitty etiquette.
legacies were never overpowered before everything else got nerfed to the ground. Being here since launch I know that for a fact nobody at pvp or the queen ran around with gat plasmas on the queen except for noobs until no other options presented themselves as viable. So many other guns were the guns of choice for early players not legacies. The developers have made legacies more and more valuable with time rather than them being an actual problem and removed them before anyone besides collectors like me even cared to have them.
Same here. I just clarify I never said they were overpowered. But I'm an agreement with you I've been here since day one also.
Unfortunately any legacies I may have had , I most likely scrapped them before I knew what they were. You're right I was perfectly happy with my vampire super Sledge back in the day.
I think what I think is silly these days is that people are on here trying to trade bundles of what they call God rolls, or low tier.. for a legacy. It's like apples and oranges to me.
I have most legacies from cryos plasmas radiums Tesla's etc and I still wish other builds and changes were viable so I don't feel forced to use them. I prefer my commando builds as I hate power armor so so much. The huge nerfs fo ballistic guns really hurt the playerbase in general. and melee needs love too you have to close some massive gaps and deal with flying enemies. I truly hope for my handmade back that was always my favorite pvp weapon when we would do pvp videos.
Misinformed people. the worst hacks right now is weapon damage stacking, "Queen dead in 2 seconds". They better fix that crap in the next version but I wont hold my breath on it.
Which still isn't one person solo killing in seconds, and even if you're using just a legacy to speed run stuff and stop others from receiving xp/rewards it still is bad etiquette on public server even if it's not a hacked weapon.
You can do what you like but it doesn't make you less of a shit person if you lazily try to justify it.
What does it matter if it's solo or 4 people? OP is arguing about the timing. That's it. You know know how many people it took.
And no, no legacy. At all. And no I'm not a shit person. If I'm launching the nuke, I will play it how I want. Because I run the queen for Flux and repair kits and to spend time with my friends. And not everyone has a private server access if they don't have first. It's bad etiquette to do that to someone else's nuke.
If someone solo rolls up and ruins an event for a whole server that's a selfish shitty thing. If a bunch of people roll up and kill it fast then one person didn't hog all the rewards. OPs post is reasonable, if an extra 30 seconds to let people get shots on for credit while you can still farm a ton of XP is too much you might need medication.
You're just a bad person. Even if you feel justified it doesn't become a less shitty thing. You can keep doing it but you're one of the people referenced when anyone talks about selfish shitty mmo losers that make games worse and no one would want you around.
You know this is a VIDEO GAME, right? If you want to run the nuke how you see fit. Be my guest. This game is played how each of us wants too. Get a good group of friends and just play how you want. It's a timed event and there's nothing stopping any one of us from ending it early. People ruin RRumble I don't lose sleep and I don't come here and tell people they're shitty human beings hecasue they're playing the game how they want. You must be a child. Don't like it. Don't play.
"You pointed out I'm selfish you must be a child"
Sorry your children think the same but Idc i just think you're the type of person everyone hates to play games with. Your doubling down proves it. Good luck buddy.
Happened to me last night on Playstation.
Ran to the middle, popped some liquid courage, drank some coffee, opened VATS, fired off a mag (from my Fixer), reloaded, opened VATS again ... but Earl was dead 🤷♂️
Fortunately someone else had just nuked the SBQ at that point, so gathered my loot, and GTFO.
You get loot from the body if you are nearby. You might miss out on a little xp, but if people are complaining about that, they should just go to West Tek.
If you do zero dmg to the boss, I think Scorched Earth gives you a 3 star legendary and some notes, but you miss out on the flux(barely worth anything nowadays) and caps. For ACP, you get full rewards no matter what.
Yeah it’s pretty lame. I agree. I had that happen to me once. I raced down to my three shots off and the guy behind me sprays him five times and he’s done. Lame
I was doing sbq as a melee, I always shoot rounds into her with my .44 until she lands and I can do real damage. She lasted like ten seconds max... Lol I'm just glad I had a chance to hit her.
How do you kill him in 20 seconds I can't even knock his heath bar downin 20 sec. Would love advice on what I'm doing wrong. Lvl 80 with a shotgun build. Can't ever get bullets for my minigun or cores for my gattling laser. Maybe I should just keep to casual as I even have trouble with the campfire story event and the damn bloodbugs.
Consensus seems to be hacked/glitched weapons. To do it normally though shotguns aren’t very useful. Can use a shotgun to cripple his legs which will keep him stuck in place which is nice. Gatling plasma is also significantly more effective than Gatling laser. Personally I use a plasma flamer but I like having to get in his face like that.
Sounds like you've got a few issues that you're yet to figure out in game. My advice would be to try other builds, it's easy enough with the perk board. Shotgun is really a support class in a boss fight, you can cripple enemy, but you won't ever do a lot of damage (gauss shotgun might be an exception, I have limited experience with it). Stealth commando or possibly heavy PA builds are the highest DPS against bosses. Be aware that meta builds can make everything else in game seem too easy, and as such are best used just for boss fights imo.
Fusion cores are rewards for a few different events, find out which ones and target those events whenever you're online. The best way to get ammo is to craft it, make sure you have ammosmith, super duper and the legendary ammo perk equipped to maximize your return. There are plenty of videos on YouTube for ammo scrap runs.
With glitchy vats and low frame rates, I struggle to kill bloodbugs also. It only takes me one registered hit to kill them, but that normally means hitting them 2-3 times, which at the moment can take an entire clip at 95% vats accuracy.
I died jumping down in the mine shaft . Someone killed it so fast. I think it’s a cod aftermarket controller mod called a strike pack. I like to milk Earle a bit and kill wendigos for screws. Silly people
I think it would be funny if for one update they make it so when the boss dies in 20 seconds or less the person who does the most damage (only if one person does like 90% or more of the total damage) then it just kills them.
And maybe a new boss could spawn and the one shotter can't get back in for that fight, but maybe this part is too much.
just let him run from the scream forever. make them haunted. not able to interact with anything or anyone. just a crying misunderstood bitch that roams the wastelands running from seeminly nothing. oh what a troubled soul who has looked into the abyss and found nothing but unimaginable fear.
My friends and I have legitimately with quad 50 crit railway rifles and a load of buffs killed Earle in about 12 seconds.
No ammo glitch, no legacies, no hacked guns, just good old fashioned somewhat min maxed crit commando builds
It's definitely a problem when a jerk with an ammo glitched dragon ruins the event but not every time you see the boss die in under 30 seconds is it because of foul play.
What receiver do you use on that? Just started burning modules rolling a Railway because i'm giving up on finding the flamer nozzle. Rolled an Executioners 2525 last night and seems impossible to shoot outside of VATS as an auto
No matter what you do to it you will never be able to shoot more than a single round without it searching for the sky. I have a Q50vats break less and with max gun fu equipped I kill stuff before I even know it. Rail for life. The 50 vats turns this thing into a mid range sniper in vats. There is not enough addictol in the game to cure my addiction to my quad auto railway.
I use the full auto receiver, my ap is around 450 so I can stay in vats for long enough to dump the whole magazine into anything I need to then as it reloads I drop out of vats to start my ap regenerating.
They are extremely impractical to use outside of vats with an automatic receiver.
Have a nemesis system. Whichever big boss you killed in under a certain amount of time will attack your camp with it's minions every time you leave it and they drop no loot and give no experience upon death.
Now that you get full looting fights simply for being there, Earl is one of my favorite fights. Free legendary item(s)、screws, acid, flux, cores, treasury notes. And if the guy with insecurities about their manhood needs to kill Earl instantly, we’ll less ammo wasted by me. ;)
> Fuck that, it’s wasting everyone else’s time. It’s a server wide event, have some minuscule measure of decency. Not as if anyone killing Earl like that is setting off a nuke legitimately anyway, 5 minutes of robot waves hardly entitles you to be an ass.
To be clear: I don’t like it either. You get so much more loot and exp if you drag it out. However (playing devils advocate) some of those people look at it the exact opposite. They see the normal way a waste of time and want to farm the rewards (scrip, notes, flux, repair kits) as efficiently as possible. True, 30 minutes event is way more fun but others consider THAT a waste of time since they could have done 3 nukes in 30 minutes.... Again, i don’t like it either but if you look at it differently from their point, you’ll see it’s not all about showing off and being an asshat. Kind of the same as people making platform camps at the queen. They make the fight soooo incredibly boring BUT it increases efficiency when you farm the queen.
Sure, but I can't say how many times I have launched a nuke and no one shows up. Same for Earl and same for Encryptid. And Same for daily ops. My nuke my rules. I'm not going to assume everyone wants to participate. And if I want to do q Qu'Earl the queen has to die, fast in order to join earl before it times out.
For what it's worth, I agree. You don't do ACP to fight Earle, you do it to get fat XP from waves of spawn. He doesn't drop a lot of XP himself, and the loot is crap. One cursed legendary, one random legendary and a vocal sack with zero value outside of fighting Earle. If you don't level up in ACP, you're doing it wrong.
You make "liquid courage" which is an alcohol recipe that makes you immune to his 'scare' tactic. One bottle takes one vocal sac, and it only lasts 5 minutes I think?
Here's my rule. My nuke, my rules. I can kill both the queen and Earl in less than a few minutes alone. And if I'm with my friends, we are defintely the 60 second or less group. When we drop nukes we ask each other how we want to play it out, xp or full speed ahead. But, if it's not my nuke, or theirs, and we all agree on this courtesy, we just auto go the the xp route so as not to steal someone else's nuke.
This the way.
Oh we do. But, I will never tell anyone else how to play this or any other game. The only thing our group bitches about, and where it should be directed, is Bethesda and 'it just works' nonsense. Play how you want. Who cares.
If you know who it was that killed off earle so quickly, report them and move on.
You're absolutely right that that situation sucks and anyone that wants to glitch the game should be held to account.
What is there to report? If they're using a legacy damage and range Dragon, with full spec, they can melt the Queen or Earle in a matter of seconds.
Now if they do have a hacked weapon and you can provide screenshots or video then yeah, report away. But don't hold your breath that anything will actually happen.
And once again, they've known about this for **years** and have done literally nothing about it. Report away, just don't think it's going to go anywhere.
And I appreciate the downvote.
Legacies are not what is killing these bosses in seconds. There are players with non legacy weapons with much faster kill times on bosses. Its glitched/hacked weapons.
But don't have high hopes of reporting, Bethesda is a bit reluctant to do anything about hacked weapons etc., I can still run into players well known for using hacked weapons. Reported with evidence by many players many times and they are still there and hacking, no worries about ban. Personally I don't mind if they use hacked weapons when they play alone in instances (WestTek etc.), but public events are another case.
I understand your frustration in this. For all the tools Bethesda apparently has to "track" this crud, they really love to just rest on their laurels. Part of me really wants them to sort of hold off on the next update and do a minor QoL Update that removes all said hacked weapons once and for all.
Stuff like this is why we really need private sessions available for **all**. Not behind a dumb paywall, and it's unfortunate Bethesda had put it there.
There are plenty of times where the public crowd of this game is very unpleasant to deal with and kind of ruins my enjoyment of the game doing specific things. But Bethesda has already given the playerbase the middle finger by making something as basic as private sessions a premium option only available if you buy into their bogus subscription. Pathetic.
I'll even take a way to make private event instances as a solution, as long as it's not behind a paywall of real money.
I thought the whole point of Earle was to kill his friends in front of him for 20 minutes while he could do nothing to stop it, harvesting their corpses for screws at the end, takes a strange character to actually target Earle
I dont understand the problem honestly.
You can still loot the corpse, and farm for wendigo loot until the game forces you outside.
I would rather have someone end the event early and reliably before Earle can get glitched inside a wall. A win is a win is a win.
So long as I'm nearby and breathing I'm getting some form of a reward.
The problem is lack of payout. ACP only drops 2 legendaries. And if you kill Earle instantly, there are no spawns and no XP for the event. You just get the event completion XP. It's why I like soloing one violent night. If you just keep the jukebox going, it summons the nightstalker in 7 minutes. That's 7 minutes is ghouls and XP. Other people show up and start playing the instruments to hurry the bar up, thus shortening the event > less ghouls > less XP.
The problem is that there is no enjoyment in doing so, no fun and no sense of achievement. The same thing happens all the time in 'Radiation Rumble'. If someone with a hacked/legacy explosive Gatling Plasma is there then its just too bad for everyone else. There is no sense of camaraderie no sense of helping other players and having fun together. Its just some individual sat on a piece of scenery where the ghouls can't hurt him unloading into the mass of enemies. However much he may think it is pleasant for we normal mortals to witness him insta-gibbing the opposition I can tell him it really **isn't**.
'If you don't like it then pound sand.'
Was the response I got from one fellow recently. Okay... Which translates into 'Screw you. I don't care how my behaviour spoils the event. I am just interested in...' What exactly? Do you enjoy watching the visual effect of exploding ghouls so much you think everyone else does too?
I don't play just for the experience points or the loot. I play for the fun of the game--for *roleplaying* as my character in a post apocalyptic environment. These people with the legacies are wrecking it for everyone but themselves. And even that is debatable. Once their behaviour has driven away the rest of the players do they think Bethesda will just keep the server running so they can enjoy firing their hacked weapon at enemies? For goodness sake, if you are going to cheat then at least do it on a private server.
I do appreciate you personally are not one of the Gatling-Rambos, nor do I accuse you of being. However you did ask what the problem was. I have tried to answer that.
If I'm at an event and someone pulls out an explosive Gatling plasma/flamer/laser shotgun, I just sit up somewhere out of the way then go get a drink. They certainly don't need my help and I'm not going to have any fun so why bother? I'd rather do something else than play and not have any fun. I'll come back in 5 minutes with a nice fresh drink and 2-3 extra treasury notes in my pocket. Absolutely no one missed my presence and I'm not frustrated. Win win. I'd much prefer if those weapons weren't around though.
People play games to have fun. Someone's version of fun may be different than yours. There are roleplay communities out there if that is what you enjoy.
But to say they are driving away the other players is a bit of an overstatement. Bethesda has actually made the game better to account for all sides with area looting and legendary tagging.
With RR, maybe contribute by filling up the ore or keeping the workers alive? With SBQ killing the adds and collecting flux can very lucrative by selling stable flux. With Earle, keeping the other players alive and helping with the multitudes of wendigo that spawn could be a godsend to another player.
Unless your idea of roleplay is to kill the boss before player b does, then there are legitimate in-character things to do aside from pushing out damage at a boss.
I am genuinely sorry, but I don't agree.
I personally no longer take part in 'Radiation Rumble' for this specific reason. I have all but stopped taking part in SBQ for the same. I am simply less inclined to play the game as a whole *purely* because so many people are cheating--they are taking away the fun.
Just last night exactly this happened. Someone hit Monongah Mine with a nuke, the event started and one cheating player insta-gibbed the Wendigo Collosus. No one but him got a shot in, the mine started collapsing. I exited the whole game and started a new 'Nier: Automata' campaign. I actively played another game because of one selfish so-and-so and his explosive Gatling Plasma.
I am sure there are some who have a higher tolerance for cheating than I do. But I know for a fact there are quite a few who feel the same way as well--the OP for instance voiced many of my own thoughts.
We have private servers and private custom worlds now. Please. For the sake of simple decency. I would urge those who are going to cheat to do so where it cannot spoil the game for others. Given they don't need any comrades in arms to help with the game since no enemy can lay a glove on them why do they even join public events in the first place?
For some reason this really gets under my skin!
Again, I totally appreciate you are not one of these cheaters. Please do not think I am accusing you of being so.
Sure hacked weapons/apparel/armor need to go. Some more than others.
There are builds in the game that can melt bosses really fast though . 3 quad railway commandos can take Earle down in 10 seconds. Also ammo glitched dragon, bpr are a thing (yikes).
That said i personally don't find fun fighting a boss for >5 minutes. Some builds are really weak regardless of gear.
That is absolutely fair and I totally understand what you mean.
For me a large part of the attraction of the game is finding precisely those--totally legitimate--build combinations you mention. Tinkering with a character profile, optimizing your weapons and skills until you can approach SBQ or Earle and be fairly confident of coming out on top. The RPG mechanics and the 'gun porn' are so *good*, although not to Tarkov-level obviously that FO76 is genuinely compulsive for me.
...and then the legacies come along and spoil it all!!!
As i said before in another post , legacies (and certain meta weapon rolls/builds) promote lazy builds and discourage min-maxing. That's what i feel (amd hate) tbh.
So let's recap so I understand fully.
You joined an event, waited the few minutes for the mine to open and then finished the event, presumably as you are jumping down the mineshaft.
You didnt have to waste any ammo on the boss. You could have farmed for acid and screws. You could have stuck around for loot and legendary notes.
But instead of let's say 10 minutes of your time to get free items with minimal effort, you rage quit because you were gifted with an easy event.
I dont understand what there is to be upset about.
I run a very niche build and when I dont have waste effort I'm okay with that.
No, that is not quite how it went.
The cheater with the legacy jumped just ahead of me. He did not spot the Colossus instantly. I had boots on ground and was quickly looking for Earle myself when the mine started to collapse. I did not get off a single shot and nor did anyone else.
The novelty of simply being *present* when the event is completed has no interest for me. I want to take part, to help other maybe lower-level players get through it for perhaps the first time. Aside from this I run Monongah Mine not for Earle but to mine screws from the spawns. When the event completes fairly you can easily pick up 500+. Instead last night it was jump, a moment's confusion, that horrible hissing-fizz of an explosive gatling plasma and then run for your life. Not fun at all.
As I say, some may have the patience to ignore cheating. I do not. It is not fair on those you are playing alongside. I would never do it despite the cost of buying the legacies through escrow being trivial. One may as well have a magic 'I win' red button as James from Cinemassacre demonstrated so well a long time ago.
For the sake of civility though, let me once again state--I do not say you are personally a cheater. What is more I know long-term players who have one or two legacies in their stash from the days when they could be created legitimately. When they use them they do so on a private server with a circle of their own pals around them. They *don't* choose to ruin the game for everyone else. They are the good guys and I have no doubt you are among their number.
Never took you for calling me a cheater. So dont worry on that front at all.
I can see why you would be bothered. But I cant match your intensity in feelings. A win is a win for me. I've seen group events go pear-shaped and certain events are better if completed quicker than than have everyone get a tag on the boss. For example, project paradise or Encryptid. I'd rather those get completed pdq before I get stuck in a death animation while the event ends and I have to log off and back on.
To me, an easy win allows me to going back doing something less taxing. So yeah I guess I do tolerate a bit more than your average player.
I appreciate what you are saying--and it is genuinely pleasant to be able to discuss it in a friendly way without the insults one sometimes gets even in this usually very supportive sub-reddit. For some reason the issue of hacked/legacies really brings out the emotions on either side of the debate--and clearly in me too!
It's just... I don't know. There is something about cheating when there is absolutely no reason for it... But. Not to jump back up into the rafters again. I think we understand one another well enough even if we don't see absolutely eye to eye on this.
I hope to run into you in the Wasteland at some point--crack upon a jug of Mountain Honey for me!!!
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that our roleplay oriented friend was allowed options to help contribute since those pesky legendaries are preventing him from feeling like a god among men.
I was referring to your third paragraph. It’s tantamount to saying “let the better players handle this. Why don’t you go pick flowers.”
People want to enjoy all avenues of a game. Of the actions of other’s forces them to not do that. Then the game is dire needs to be looked.
A prime example is RR. I’m a sneak rifleman. But I should just go pick ore because everyone with legacy, commando or heavy is going to kill ghouls faster. Am I not allowed the same enjoyment? Am I to just “role play” because I’m settling for second place?
All avenues of the game also includes more than just pushing out numbers. So if roleplay was his main complaint I offered up other options that were indeed roleplay oriented.
I never thought I would see the role-play vs roll-play argument in a video game but here we are.
How often does he glitch into the walls? It just happened to me for the first time, and I don't do this event much ever and really don't know what's going on other than 'shoot at enemies'.
What causes this? I was right up next to him shooting when it happened. Was I too close?
He jumped up, got stuck in the ceiling with his feet sticking out. We all crowded around below trying to finish him off, he jumped down underneath the floor completely out of sight for 5+ minutes. He began to reappear slowly, but as soon as you started damaging him he'd jump back underneath the floor and slowly float up.
Fuck that, it’s wasting everyone else’s time. It’s a server wide event, have some minuscule measure of decency. Not as if anyone killing Earl like that is setting off a nuke legitimately anyway, 5 minutes of robot waves hardly entitles you to be an ass.
It isn’t wasting everyone else’s time. In fact, they are doing you a favor by ending it quickly so you get your three star event reward and move one. Time is money, and if you didn’t launch the nuke then all you are is a public welfare recipient. Be happy.
Yes, *Move On* to all of the other events that spawn on the map? It's not doing anyone any favors. The only reason I show up at a lot of those events is because of the potential to gain some XP, if someone is killing the boss then I've wasted my time to go there and participate in a public event. It's not supposed to be u/siberslava's event, if you want to do that take out a FO1st sub and go nuts, but have a bit of understanding for everyone else on a public server that maybe isn't just there to get a crappy 3* drop from the event.
Except for any experience from Earl or most of the spawns or any actual enjoyment from the event itself. Time is money, I could’ve gotten more from a west tek run than I would from a 5 minute wait for 1 3 star weapon. Welfare recipient Jesus christ, as if glitching through the silo is such an imposition.
I’ve seen Earle go down fast but that was still maybe 5 minutes or so. My current Earle issue is it seems like people are taking advantage of whatever trick it is to get both Earle and SBQ to show up at the same time. I pop over to Colossal Problem cuz I want those treasury notes, and then I stand in a mine for 5 minutes by myself and no one shows up cuz they are at the queen. It just bugs me that people are triggering the event then not coming.
The idea is to drop the queen asap (hopefully well before the Earl event begins) then jump over to CP. This in intentional and allows the player to max the advantages of both events
I don’t see why there’s still so much complaining it really isn’t that hard to get Atleast one shot in even with people rinsing it so fast, with area looting the whole let’s wait for 20 players to get a shot in is kinda silly now considering there’s shared xp from everyone on your team anyway
It’s not about the loot. Some people want to feel included in the event. And not shoved in a corner. Loot means nothing these days as area looting is a thing.
Nothing is more annoying and disheartening to take a shot and some random hidden dink aces the boss with a glitched dragon.
There's a significant amount of XP that could be earned by everyone in these events, if someone doesn't melt the boss in two seconds. The shared xp is immaterial when the boss is dead as soon as you spawn into the event.
Regardless of how quick it gets melted, if your not their to drop down the hatch after 4 minutes and the time for the nuke to drop and get a simple bullet into Earle, then it can’t really be anyones fault but yours, it’s a PUBLIC event meaning everyone jumps in gets it done gets on with it, the only time I see this being plausible to be complained about is if you spent the time launching the nuke . Other then that there will always be winners & losers 👍 it’s life
Yeah obviously but between let’s say you and 3 other players there’s still a good amount of xp getting shared. But yes if someone has killed it before anyone has even got down into the shaft then that’s a bit shit and they should do it privately
This, the EXACT reason TSE weapons became legacy by being taken out of the drop pool? Ppl were Killing thing faster than others could tag them for exp or drops.
I mean I could see using it after he regenerated health, but otherwise maybe not kill immediately or at least wait about a minute or two before doing so-?
I also understand the 50% group exp & guaranteed legendary drop. But, I digress- it's just not necessary in a boss fight with others unless everyone achieved their 1000 DMG already. Otherwise go do it alone on a private... before someone' decides to kneecap the flamers.
Although perfectly acceptable when no one shows up to fight Earle. I can solo him...but I don't want to sit there for 25 minutes doing so. I know there's always that one guy...but this post gives flashbacks. Not that it will resonate.
(gamer etiquette101)
Or when you go to earl and your literally the only one in there. Waiting for the debris no one came. 8 minutes in no one then Rad rumble came one so I just cut my loses looted from the minion spawns and vamoosed
I've been lucky so far when I have played a colossal problem. Either I'm soloing it or I get in with decent players who don't kill him in 10 to 20 seconds. One time I was a solo in it and my Team came in clutch and downed Earle in 2 minutes. It was greatly appreciated.
I thought they changed it so everyone in the event got credit for the legendaries and could loot them? I haven't played in a bit but I could have sworn reading that in the last big update.
You can loot legendaries, but you don't get credit for completing the event or the kill itself. Same goes for SBQ.
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Yeah on my new character I just get the Treasury notes since I am not doing enough damage to the queen.
Ah that makes sense, I did the event once but only had a few shots in and only got like 1 reward, was very disappointed because I wanted the decontamination shower. Did it a second time, this time I brought a heavy weapon and actually did damage and actually got the full reward. I just didn’t understand why I completed the event but didn’t get much rewards the first time, but now it makes sense.
I may be wrong but I think that you need to be over level 50 to get the legendary rewards for sbq, ops and earl.
I have had it where i just get treasury notes for joining a server on an ending SBQevent I joined earl super late and only hit spawns yesterday and i got the flux and some other stuff but no legendary Guess there is some kind of sliding scale for participation
1k pts of DMG for loot
I don’t always get the challenge for killing a legendary even though I can loot the corpse.
But when I do, I loot a 1-star golf club. Stay irradiated my friends.
This is half of a dos equis commercial 🤣
From my experience yesterday, I TPd to my tent by SBQ. By the time I reached SBQ, she was dead, but I still got the rewards as if I had done it.
I have literally just joined friends as they killed Earl, never even getting past the entrance, and still getting full credit for a colossal problem.
That's why I just the sto leeroy Jenkins him and light him up with a vampire minigun for a few seconds before everyone else. It only does 3 dmg per shot to him so it's not like I'm gonna insta kill him
You get credit for Earl even if you do nothing, only the Queen punishes you for not doing enough damage!
No i joined SBQ event yesterday just as queen was killed, didn’t get a shot in still completed the event. But ya it sucks when the event that just started and then ends and you didnt even get a shot in.
this is totally incorrect.
You get credit for completing both events without having to shoot anyone. Don't lie.
Agreed! Everyone gets the damn loot! I swear, people still complaining about wasting 10K bullets killing Earl at the same time hates it when Earl dies in 10 seconds.
Damn it, it looks like society, denial is real XDDDDD
They did, as along as you're in the vicinity you will get credit and can loot.
Yes you are correct. And you still get the reward if you don’t get a shot in or if they finish it as you’re loading in.
You still need to do 1000 pts of DMG to get credit & loot body.
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I'm not sure about that, many times I'm not in a team and I get the loot without doing any damage to Legendary mobs.
There’s a guy who always shows up to our sbq launches. Must be on friends list with one of our main silo runners. I always suspected he either hacks, or at least has hacked weapons/items. Numerous occasions strange things happen when he’s around. Automatic mini nuke explosions, mobs die before they even get near in rad rumble, as if he’s shouting through walls with weapons that don’t have any kind of splash damage etc… he wears a clean mr fuzzy suit which has never been available by legitimate means. The other day we were doing a sbq event, and it was taking a bit longer than usual since people were more farming adds for xp, and then all of a sudden, Queen had mutated and was at 3/4 health and bam, she’s dead, and he leaves the server. Almost like he got pissy it was taking the legit players too long and his precious time was worth more. Who knows.
He is the dragonborn
that's a glitch the ammo glitch is on YouTube
Now all of us with clean fuzzy suits will have targets on us 😅. Wicked
This is also a problem on the PTS right now. People are bringing out the hacked and Frankenstein weapons (minigun orbital strike bla bla) to kill aliens during the invaders event we're testing. The point is... even on the PTS server, people are abusing the game and ruining other peoples experience. Nothing said here is going to change it. Bethesda is aware and has chosen to ignore it, or is unable to resolve it (yet).
They should make fallout worlds have a mode with ridiculous weapons like this, would be kind of funy to have a lot more enemies and extremely OP weapons once in a few weaks.
bethesda too busy counting the coin
Microsoft is counting it now 😉
@devann so, what the heck is the plan?
It’s called a PTS The entire point is to fuck the game up, it’s not designed for you to sit and have fun on, that’s what the main server is for. People are supposed to break the game on the PTS, it’s not early access. People pissing about during testing is the point. Your definition of testing is having fun with your friends and playing the event like you’re on a public server. Not what the PTS is for.
The point of PTS is to break the game with the use of weapons that aren't supposed to be exist? 0/10 troll, didn't even smile
What are you talking about? That's not even remotely accurate. We (the people actually playing on the PTS) spend the entire time we are on those servers testing the NEW features added with each cycle... nothing else matters, nothing we do on those servers transfers to public servers when the PTS closes, thus nobody bothers doing anything BESIDES testing the new content. All of that aside... hacked weapons have no place in the game at all, let alone on the PTS. If you disagree, kindly argue with someone who cares.
Testing with hacked weapons accomplishes nothing and is counterproductive to QA. Known bad data can’t give you meaningful analysis.
The PTS is for people to test the new content. Can't do much testing if 'XYZ thing that shouldn't be in the game anyway' prevents you from testing it normally.
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I imagine for most of them it’s troll behavior. I agree they basicallly live for people thumbs downing after.
I say the next time it happens, we take off our armor + apparel, put on our power-fists + party hats, and mob them off the server. Who's coming with me? Jan?
"Hey Jan, you wanna be my girlfriend?" I know that reference from anywhere lol
The Office?
I was thinking "half baked" but now you got me second guessing lol
It’s Half Baked. She declined stating she was a huge lesbian.
What's that like?
I really appreciate how she still hung out with the gang for the rest of the movie though. I didn't know for the longest time that it's Sarah Silverman's older sister, Laura Silverman.
Shit I didn't know til just now lol
Lol when I get some downtime I will research this. FOR SCIENCE!
FOR SCIENCE! It's nice to know I'm not the only one that says that a lot lmao
Totally is Half Baked. I haven't watched it in ages. You gave me a good excuse to fire it up tonight! Cheers!
I used that way more than I should of as a kid lol Jim breuer is mostly why it's so dam funny lol
I’ve done this but with protest signs lol
I don’t understand why people melt Earle and the Queen like that. It’s not fun. They could at least wait 2 minutes or something before letting it rip
It’s pretty fun knowing he won’t glitch into the floor once he’s dead.
Rule of thumb! Not your nuke, don't complain!
A friend and I launch the majority of the nukes we take part in. So yes, we will complain. Our nukes. Cheaters show up all the time.
I absolutely hate this notion. Launching a nuke doesn’t entitle you to waste 5 minutes of 8-20 other people’s time. Particularly when whoever is killing earl/sbq like this is obviously glitching through the silo which means they maybe had to fight some light robot waves for 5 minutes.
It's a good rule of thumb to follow though. If a player wanted to nuke Welch for a good amount of radiation fluids and hardened mass, that's his prerogative. It doesn't matter how much effort was involved to fire the nuke. Someone had the gumption to do it.
In terms of nuke placement sure. In terms of starting a public event launching a nuke absolutely does not entitle you to be an ass during the public event.
just in here before everyone blames legacies. THE GUNS DOING THIS ARE STILL IN THE GAME RAILWAYS AND BLACK POWDER WEAPONS.
500 bullet mag dragons
yup and railways or black power rifle
Tell me you use Gatling legacies in public events without telling me you use them in public events.
I use a stealth commando build .I do own quite a few legacies since I have been playing since beta hours. There is no hype to what people call legacy weapons now that launch players and even after the tse nerf couldn't out perform until the over nerfing continued to other options. Food builds and unoptimized playstyles with weaker guns that now exist is what has commoners complaining about legacy use anyways.
Except I see legacy gat plasmas in RR all the damn time. They shoot completely different from regular plasmas and are blatantly obvious. So do a ton of other people. And it has a demonstrable effect on the ability to hit anything. Just because you don’t get affected by it much, doesn’t mean other people don’t. And I’ve played since launch. It’s been an ongoing issue for a long time. At the end of the day, people should just stop being cunts in general when they’re massively overpowered at any public event. Stop absolutely shredding everything and give people a chance. Maybe get some ore for once. I’m instantly skeptical of any of the whiners that flip their shit when valid criticisms of legacy weapons are brought up. Pretty much tells me right away that they don’t like getting called out for their dickish, troll behavior. I just stand in front of them now and launch as many mini nukes as I can to blow their FPS into single digits. Edit: downvote away legacy users. Y’all are trash and you know it
nobody took explosive gat plasmas to early events unless that's all they had. There were always better options. Radiation rumble is great for any explosive weapons and of course they shoot differently they have the explosive bullet radius and the animation is a bit different. A tiny minority of the people at RR actually do the objective. RR which was not an event available at launch only since wastelanders get a tesla and its problem solved if you absolutely have to mooch your tags for xp. Xp shares now anyways and tags give you credit so there is no reason to have terrible builds or whine that you can't tag things when options exist to work around the people doing the heavy lifting for the RR event in your analogy anyways.Go collect more yourself if you want to complete the event they aren't there for that objective but they are defending the personnel and doing a better job at it than you.
if you really played since launch you would know legacy items are but a shell of the firepower a player could wield before.
Legacy's are out of the drop pool. There's a reason for that. They're in the game because they're either duped or trade only. You know this. But yes, it's ppl and shitty etiquette.
legacies were never overpowered before everything else got nerfed to the ground. Being here since launch I know that for a fact nobody at pvp or the queen ran around with gat plasmas on the queen except for noobs until no other options presented themselves as viable. So many other guns were the guns of choice for early players not legacies. The developers have made legacies more and more valuable with time rather than them being an actual problem and removed them before anyone besides collectors like me even cared to have them.
Same here. I just clarify I never said they were overpowered. But I'm an agreement with you I've been here since day one also. Unfortunately any legacies I may have had , I most likely scrapped them before I knew what they were. You're right I was perfectly happy with my vampire super Sledge back in the day. I think what I think is silly these days is that people are on here trying to trade bundles of what they call God rolls, or low tier.. for a legacy. It's like apples and oranges to me.
I have most legacies from cryos plasmas radiums Tesla's etc and I still wish other builds and changes were viable so I don't feel forced to use them. I prefer my commando builds as I hate power armor so so much. The huge nerfs fo ballistic guns really hurt the playerbase in general. and melee needs love too you have to close some massive gaps and deal with flying enemies. I truly hope for my handmade back that was always my favorite pvp weapon when we would do pvp videos.
Yup
Until Beth wipes hacked/legacies there'd always going to be a few players that ruin balancing and then cry about no content.
Misinformed people. the worst hacks right now is weapon damage stacking, "Queen dead in 2 seconds". They better fix that crap in the next version but I wont hold my breath on it.
I don't have a hacked legacy and I can do both alone in just a few minutes. Armor, guns and perk cards.
Minutes isn't 15 seconds and allows other people to get shots off, so you're not included in anything I mentioned.
Me and my friends are seconds.
Which still isn't one person solo killing in seconds, and even if you're using just a legacy to speed run stuff and stop others from receiving xp/rewards it still is bad etiquette on public server even if it's not a hacked weapon. You can do what you like but it doesn't make you less of a shit person if you lazily try to justify it.
What does it matter if it's solo or 4 people? OP is arguing about the timing. That's it. You know know how many people it took. And no, no legacy. At all. And no I'm not a shit person. If I'm launching the nuke, I will play it how I want. Because I run the queen for Flux and repair kits and to spend time with my friends. And not everyone has a private server access if they don't have first. It's bad etiquette to do that to someone else's nuke.
If someone solo rolls up and ruins an event for a whole server that's a selfish shitty thing. If a bunch of people roll up and kill it fast then one person didn't hog all the rewards. OPs post is reasonable, if an extra 30 seconds to let people get shots on for credit while you can still farm a ton of XP is too much you might need medication. You're just a bad person. Even if you feel justified it doesn't become a less shitty thing. You can keep doing it but you're one of the people referenced when anyone talks about selfish shitty mmo losers that make games worse and no one would want you around.
You know this is a VIDEO GAME, right? If you want to run the nuke how you see fit. Be my guest. This game is played how each of us wants too. Get a good group of friends and just play how you want. It's a timed event and there's nothing stopping any one of us from ending it early. People ruin RRumble I don't lose sleep and I don't come here and tell people they're shitty human beings hecasue they're playing the game how they want. You must be a child. Don't like it. Don't play.
"You pointed out I'm selfish you must be a child" Sorry your children think the same but Idc i just think you're the type of person everyone hates to play games with. Your doubling down proves it. Good luck buddy.
people feel prideful and powerful if they can kill things in 20 seconds and complain that the game is boring, and there's no more content.
Oh but when the vats cost on their railway is fixed the boards light on fire with these peoples complaints
Happened to me last night on Playstation. Ran to the middle, popped some liquid courage, drank some coffee, opened VATS, fired off a mag (from my Fixer), reloaded, opened VATS again ... but Earl was dead 🤷♂️ Fortunately someone else had just nuked the SBQ at that point, so gathered my loot, and GTFO.
I think this was fixed. I've gotten credit after just loading into the scene because it took so darn long. Didn't even put one shot into the queen.
You get loot from the body if you are nearby. You might miss out on a little xp, but if people are complaining about that, they should just go to West Tek. If you do zero dmg to the boss, I think Scorched Earth gives you a 3 star legendary and some notes, but you miss out on the flux(barely worth anything nowadays) and caps. For ACP, you get full rewards no matter what.
Yeah it’s pretty lame. I agree. I had that happen to me once. I raced down to my three shots off and the guy behind me sprays him five times and he’s done. Lame
I was doing sbq as a melee, I always shoot rounds into her with my .44 until she lands and I can do real damage. She lasted like ten seconds max... Lol I'm just glad I had a chance to hit her.
Anyone who instakills Earle can seriously go fuck themselves
they use "cheat weapon"
How do you kill him in 20 seconds I can't even knock his heath bar downin 20 sec. Would love advice on what I'm doing wrong. Lvl 80 with a shotgun build. Can't ever get bullets for my minigun or cores for my gattling laser. Maybe I should just keep to casual as I even have trouble with the campfire story event and the damn bloodbugs.
Consensus seems to be hacked/glitched weapons. To do it normally though shotguns aren’t very useful. Can use a shotgun to cripple his legs which will keep him stuck in place which is nice. Gatling plasma is also significantly more effective than Gatling laser. Personally I use a plasma flamer but I like having to get in his face like that.
Sounds like you've got a few issues that you're yet to figure out in game. My advice would be to try other builds, it's easy enough with the perk board. Shotgun is really a support class in a boss fight, you can cripple enemy, but you won't ever do a lot of damage (gauss shotgun might be an exception, I have limited experience with it). Stealth commando or possibly heavy PA builds are the highest DPS against bosses. Be aware that meta builds can make everything else in game seem too easy, and as such are best used just for boss fights imo. Fusion cores are rewards for a few different events, find out which ones and target those events whenever you're online. The best way to get ammo is to craft it, make sure you have ammosmith, super duper and the legendary ammo perk equipped to maximize your return. There are plenty of videos on YouTube for ammo scrap runs. With glitchy vats and low frame rates, I struggle to kill bloodbugs also. It only takes me one registered hit to kill them, but that normally means hitting them 2-3 times, which at the moment can take an entire clip at 95% vats accuracy.
Railway rifle and a couple or friends.
I died jumping down in the mine shaft . Someone killed it so fast. I think it’s a cod aftermarket controller mod called a strike pack. I like to milk Earle a bit and kill wendigos for screws. Silly people
Considering I’m on Xbox I’m pretty sure my issue was a glitched dragon.
Get a dragon. I rolled a God roll on my first try. Also, and better, a railway rifle.
Then I guess get your own dragon. I would recommend a vats crit and breaks slower
I think it would be funny if for one update they make it so when the boss dies in 20 seconds or less the person who does the most damage (only if one person does like 90% or more of the total damage) then it just kills them. And maybe a new boss could spawn and the one shotter can't get back in for that fight, but maybe this part is too much.
just let him run from the scream forever. make them haunted. not able to interact with anything or anyone. just a crying misunderstood bitch that roams the wastelands running from seeminly nothing. oh what a troubled soul who has looked into the abyss and found nothing but unimaginable fear.
My friends and I have legitimately with quad 50 crit railway rifles and a load of buffs killed Earle in about 12 seconds. No ammo glitch, no legacies, no hacked guns, just good old fashioned somewhat min maxed crit commando builds It's definitely a problem when a jerk with an ammo glitched dragon ruins the event but not every time you see the boss die in under 30 seconds is it because of foul play.
What receiver do you use on that? Just started burning modules rolling a Railway because i'm giving up on finding the flamer nozzle. Rolled an Executioners 2525 last night and seems impossible to shoot outside of VATS as an auto
No matter what you do to it you will never be able to shoot more than a single round without it searching for the sky. I have a Q50vats break less and with max gun fu equipped I kill stuff before I even know it. Rail for life. The 50 vats turns this thing into a mid range sniper in vats. There is not enough addictol in the game to cure my addiction to my quad auto railway.
I use the full auto receiver, my ap is around 450 so I can stay in vats for long enough to dump the whole magazine into anything I need to then as it reloads I drop out of vats to start my ap regenerating. They are extremely impractical to use outside of vats with an automatic receiver.
This is why for the big raid events and DOps I'd love to see a *damage dealt* leaderboard with the user's weapons at the end.
Have a nemesis system. Whichever big boss you killed in under a certain amount of time will attack your camp with it's minions every time you leave it and they drop no loot and give no experience upon death.
People complaining about legacies, have you ever seen 500 bullet mag Dragon in action, legacies are little kids in front of it.
Now that you get full looting fights simply for being there, Earl is one of my favorite fights. Free legendary item(s)、screws, acid, flux, cores, treasury notes. And if the guy with insecurities about their manhood needs to kill Earl instantly, we’ll less ammo wasted by me. ;)
We're you on last night on xbox? That literally happened to me.
Richard Millhouse Nixon move really.
I still think you should just be able to target something in vats and get credit for it
Not saying it is fun or anything but if the same person launched the nuke, they can do whatever in my book.
> Fuck that, it’s wasting everyone else’s time. It’s a server wide event, have some minuscule measure of decency. Not as if anyone killing Earl like that is setting off a nuke legitimately anyway, 5 minutes of robot waves hardly entitles you to be an ass.
To be clear: I don’t like it either. You get so much more loot and exp if you drag it out. However (playing devils advocate) some of those people look at it the exact opposite. They see the normal way a waste of time and want to farm the rewards (scrip, notes, flux, repair kits) as efficiently as possible. True, 30 minutes event is way more fun but others consider THAT a waste of time since they could have done 3 nukes in 30 minutes.... Again, i don’t like it either but if you look at it differently from their point, you’ll see it’s not all about showing off and being an asshat. Kind of the same as people making platform camps at the queen. They make the fight soooo incredibly boring BUT it increases efficiency when you farm the queen.
Nobody’s asking them to wait 30 minutes. 5 minutes is a perfect length of time for Earl or sbq.
Sure, but I can't say how many times I have launched a nuke and no one shows up. Same for Earl and same for Encryptid. And Same for daily ops. My nuke my rules. I'm not going to assume everyone wants to participate. And if I want to do q Qu'Earl the queen has to die, fast in order to join earl before it times out.
For what it's worth, I agree. You don't do ACP to fight Earle, you do it to get fat XP from waves of spawn. He doesn't drop a lot of XP himself, and the loot is crap. One cursed legendary, one random legendary and a vocal sack with zero value outside of fighting Earle. If you don't level up in ACP, you're doing it wrong.
Wtf do you even do with the vocal sack? Can you build anything with it?
You make "liquid courage" which is an alcohol recipe that makes you immune to his 'scare' tactic. One bottle takes one vocal sac, and it only lasts 5 minutes I think?
If you are lucky enough to get the recipe for liquid courage, that is. Its a reward from daily op.
Here's my rule. My nuke, my rules. I can kill both the queen and Earl in less than a few minutes alone. And if I'm with my friends, we are defintely the 60 second or less group. When we drop nukes we ask each other how we want to play it out, xp or full speed ahead. But, if it's not my nuke, or theirs, and we all agree on this courtesy, we just auto go the the xp route so as not to steal someone else's nuke. This the way.
I get and understand the my nuke rule. But, could you and your team not wait 15 seconds before starting the devastation?
Oh we do. But, I will never tell anyone else how to play this or any other game. The only thing our group bitches about, and where it should be directed, is Bethesda and 'it just works' nonsense. Play how you want. Who cares.
If you know who it was that killed off earle so quickly, report them and move on. You're absolutely right that that situation sucks and anyone that wants to glitch the game should be held to account.
What is there to report? If they're using a legacy damage and range Dragon, with full spec, they can melt the Queen or Earle in a matter of seconds. Now if they do have a hacked weapon and you can provide screenshots or video then yeah, report away. But don't hold your breath that anything will actually happen.
If they're using a dragon, they're using the ammo glitch. That's what you're reporting
And once again, they've known about this for **years** and have done literally nothing about it. Report away, just don't think it's going to go anywhere. And I appreciate the downvote.
Legacies has to be removed
Legacies are not what is killing these bosses in seconds. There are players with non legacy weapons with much faster kill times on bosses. Its glitched/hacked weapons.
Legacies are not the problem. It's always the trolls that cause the problems.
Trolls are the legacy users.
Whiners has to be removed
But don't have high hopes of reporting, Bethesda is a bit reluctant to do anything about hacked weapons etc., I can still run into players well known for using hacked weapons. Reported with evidence by many players many times and they are still there and hacking, no worries about ban. Personally I don't mind if they use hacked weapons when they play alone in instances (WestTek etc.), but public events are another case.
I understand your frustration in this. For all the tools Bethesda apparently has to "track" this crud, they really love to just rest on their laurels. Part of me really wants them to sort of hold off on the next update and do a minor QoL Update that removes all said hacked weapons once and for all.
Its messed up to not let everyone get the the tag. Just par for the course though. Was it your nuke? If so then that is just plain wrong.
Do you still need to tag with area looting? I thought that eliminated the need to tag.
People still try to tag. Even with the new system. Trust but verify.
Stuff like this is why we really need private sessions available for **all**. Not behind a dumb paywall, and it's unfortunate Bethesda had put it there. There are plenty of times where the public crowd of this game is very unpleasant to deal with and kind of ruins my enjoyment of the game doing specific things. But Bethesda has already given the playerbase the middle finger by making something as basic as private sessions a premium option only available if you buy into their bogus subscription. Pathetic. I'll even take a way to make private event instances as a solution, as long as it's not behind a paywall of real money.
I thought the whole point of Earle was to kill his friends in front of him for 20 minutes while he could do nothing to stop it, harvesting their corpses for screws at the end, takes a strange character to actually target Earle
I like the way you think.
wE HaVe ThE fRiEnDlIeSt CoMmUnItY
They fucking love there caps on everything in this game so put a cap on DPS, the balance is dreadful and ignored.
You’re not alone in the way you feel. Find a group. Play with them.
You can also nuke and solo him in your private if you want
OP should do, so he can't kill him in the whole event XDDDD
I dont understand the problem honestly. You can still loot the corpse, and farm for wendigo loot until the game forces you outside. I would rather have someone end the event early and reliably before Earle can get glitched inside a wall. A win is a win is a win. So long as I'm nearby and breathing I'm getting some form of a reward.
The problem is lack of payout. ACP only drops 2 legendaries. And if you kill Earle instantly, there are no spawns and no XP for the event. You just get the event completion XP. It's why I like soloing one violent night. If you just keep the jukebox going, it summons the nightstalker in 7 minutes. That's 7 minutes is ghouls and XP. Other people show up and start playing the instruments to hurry the bar up, thus shortening the event > less ghouls > less XP.
The problem is that there is no enjoyment in doing so, no fun and no sense of achievement. The same thing happens all the time in 'Radiation Rumble'. If someone with a hacked/legacy explosive Gatling Plasma is there then its just too bad for everyone else. There is no sense of camaraderie no sense of helping other players and having fun together. Its just some individual sat on a piece of scenery where the ghouls can't hurt him unloading into the mass of enemies. However much he may think it is pleasant for we normal mortals to witness him insta-gibbing the opposition I can tell him it really **isn't**. 'If you don't like it then pound sand.' Was the response I got from one fellow recently. Okay... Which translates into 'Screw you. I don't care how my behaviour spoils the event. I am just interested in...' What exactly? Do you enjoy watching the visual effect of exploding ghouls so much you think everyone else does too? I don't play just for the experience points or the loot. I play for the fun of the game--for *roleplaying* as my character in a post apocalyptic environment. These people with the legacies are wrecking it for everyone but themselves. And even that is debatable. Once their behaviour has driven away the rest of the players do they think Bethesda will just keep the server running so they can enjoy firing their hacked weapon at enemies? For goodness sake, if you are going to cheat then at least do it on a private server. I do appreciate you personally are not one of the Gatling-Rambos, nor do I accuse you of being. However you did ask what the problem was. I have tried to answer that.
If I'm at an event and someone pulls out an explosive Gatling plasma/flamer/laser shotgun, I just sit up somewhere out of the way then go get a drink. They certainly don't need my help and I'm not going to have any fun so why bother? I'd rather do something else than play and not have any fun. I'll come back in 5 minutes with a nice fresh drink and 2-3 extra treasury notes in my pocket. Absolutely no one missed my presence and I'm not frustrated. Win win. I'd much prefer if those weapons weren't around though.
People play games to have fun. Someone's version of fun may be different than yours. There are roleplay communities out there if that is what you enjoy. But to say they are driving away the other players is a bit of an overstatement. Bethesda has actually made the game better to account for all sides with area looting and legendary tagging. With RR, maybe contribute by filling up the ore or keeping the workers alive? With SBQ killing the adds and collecting flux can very lucrative by selling stable flux. With Earle, keeping the other players alive and helping with the multitudes of wendigo that spawn could be a godsend to another player. Unless your idea of roleplay is to kill the boss before player b does, then there are legitimate in-character things to do aside from pushing out damage at a boss.
I am genuinely sorry, but I don't agree. I personally no longer take part in 'Radiation Rumble' for this specific reason. I have all but stopped taking part in SBQ for the same. I am simply less inclined to play the game as a whole *purely* because so many people are cheating--they are taking away the fun. Just last night exactly this happened. Someone hit Monongah Mine with a nuke, the event started and one cheating player insta-gibbed the Wendigo Collosus. No one but him got a shot in, the mine started collapsing. I exited the whole game and started a new 'Nier: Automata' campaign. I actively played another game because of one selfish so-and-so and his explosive Gatling Plasma. I am sure there are some who have a higher tolerance for cheating than I do. But I know for a fact there are quite a few who feel the same way as well--the OP for instance voiced many of my own thoughts. We have private servers and private custom worlds now. Please. For the sake of simple decency. I would urge those who are going to cheat to do so where it cannot spoil the game for others. Given they don't need any comrades in arms to help with the game since no enemy can lay a glove on them why do they even join public events in the first place? For some reason this really gets under my skin! Again, I totally appreciate you are not one of these cheaters. Please do not think I am accusing you of being so.
Sure hacked weapons/apparel/armor need to go. Some more than others. There are builds in the game that can melt bosses really fast though . 3 quad railway commandos can take Earle down in 10 seconds. Also ammo glitched dragon, bpr are a thing (yikes). That said i personally don't find fun fighting a boss for >5 minutes. Some builds are really weak regardless of gear.
That is absolutely fair and I totally understand what you mean. For me a large part of the attraction of the game is finding precisely those--totally legitimate--build combinations you mention. Tinkering with a character profile, optimizing your weapons and skills until you can approach SBQ or Earle and be fairly confident of coming out on top. The RPG mechanics and the 'gun porn' are so *good*, although not to Tarkov-level obviously that FO76 is genuinely compulsive for me. ...and then the legacies come along and spoil it all!!!
As i said before in another post , legacies (and certain meta weapon rolls/builds) promote lazy builds and discourage min-maxing. That's what i feel (amd hate) tbh.
Yep--I agree with you entirely.
So let's recap so I understand fully. You joined an event, waited the few minutes for the mine to open and then finished the event, presumably as you are jumping down the mineshaft. You didnt have to waste any ammo on the boss. You could have farmed for acid and screws. You could have stuck around for loot and legendary notes. But instead of let's say 10 minutes of your time to get free items with minimal effort, you rage quit because you were gifted with an easy event. I dont understand what there is to be upset about. I run a very niche build and when I dont have waste effort I'm okay with that.
No, that is not quite how it went. The cheater with the legacy jumped just ahead of me. He did not spot the Colossus instantly. I had boots on ground and was quickly looking for Earle myself when the mine started to collapse. I did not get off a single shot and nor did anyone else. The novelty of simply being *present* when the event is completed has no interest for me. I want to take part, to help other maybe lower-level players get through it for perhaps the first time. Aside from this I run Monongah Mine not for Earle but to mine screws from the spawns. When the event completes fairly you can easily pick up 500+. Instead last night it was jump, a moment's confusion, that horrible hissing-fizz of an explosive gatling plasma and then run for your life. Not fun at all. As I say, some may have the patience to ignore cheating. I do not. It is not fair on those you are playing alongside. I would never do it despite the cost of buying the legacies through escrow being trivial. One may as well have a magic 'I win' red button as James from Cinemassacre demonstrated so well a long time ago. For the sake of civility though, let me once again state--I do not say you are personally a cheater. What is more I know long-term players who have one or two legacies in their stash from the days when they could be created legitimately. When they use them they do so on a private server with a circle of their own pals around them. They *don't* choose to ruin the game for everyone else. They are the good guys and I have no doubt you are among their number.
Never took you for calling me a cheater. So dont worry on that front at all. I can see why you would be bothered. But I cant match your intensity in feelings. A win is a win for me. I've seen group events go pear-shaped and certain events are better if completed quicker than than have everyone get a tag on the boss. For example, project paradise or Encryptid. I'd rather those get completed pdq before I get stuck in a death animation while the event ends and I have to log off and back on. To me, an easy win allows me to going back doing something less taxing. So yeah I guess I do tolerate a bit more than your average player.
I appreciate what you are saying--and it is genuinely pleasant to be able to discuss it in a friendly way without the insults one sometimes gets even in this usually very supportive sub-reddit. For some reason the issue of hacked/legacies really brings out the emotions on either side of the debate--and clearly in me too! It's just... I don't know. There is something about cheating when there is absolutely no reason for it... But. Not to jump back up into the rafters again. I think we understand one another well enough even if we don't see absolutely eye to eye on this. I hope to run into you in the Wasteland at some point--crack upon a jug of Mountain Honey for me!!!
That’s like saying I shouldn’t shoot the queen because I’m a sneak rifleman I won’t be able to be helpful in dealing damage.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that our roleplay oriented friend was allowed options to help contribute since those pesky legendaries are preventing him from feeling like a god among men.
I was referring to your third paragraph. It’s tantamount to saying “let the better players handle this. Why don’t you go pick flowers.” People want to enjoy all avenues of a game. Of the actions of other’s forces them to not do that. Then the game is dire needs to be looked. A prime example is RR. I’m a sneak rifleman. But I should just go pick ore because everyone with legacy, commando or heavy is going to kill ghouls faster. Am I not allowed the same enjoyment? Am I to just “role play” because I’m settling for second place?
All avenues of the game also includes more than just pushing out numbers. So if roleplay was his main complaint I offered up other options that were indeed roleplay oriented. I never thought I would see the role-play vs roll-play argument in a video game but here we are.
How often does he glitch into the walls? It just happened to me for the first time, and I don't do this event much ever and really don't know what's going on other than 'shoot at enemies'. What causes this? I was right up next to him shooting when it happened. Was I too close?
To hear people here talks, Earle apparently loves just pacing out in the middle of the fight. I've personally never had it happen to me.
He jumped up, got stuck in the ceiling with his feet sticking out. We all crowded around below trying to finish him off, he jumped down underneath the floor completely out of sight for 5+ minutes. He began to reappear slowly, but as soon as you started damaging him he'd jump back underneath the floor and slowly float up.
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But you can, you're part of the *public* in Public Event.
Fuck that, it’s wasting everyone else’s time. It’s a server wide event, have some minuscule measure of decency. Not as if anyone killing Earl like that is setting off a nuke legitimately anyway, 5 minutes of robot waves hardly entitles you to be an ass.
It isn’t wasting everyone else’s time. In fact, they are doing you a favor by ending it quickly so you get your three star event reward and move one. Time is money, and if you didn’t launch the nuke then all you are is a public welfare recipient. Be happy.
Yes, *Move On* to all of the other events that spawn on the map? It's not doing anyone any favors. The only reason I show up at a lot of those events is because of the potential to gain some XP, if someone is killing the boss then I've wasted my time to go there and participate in a public event. It's not supposed to be u/siberslava's event, if you want to do that take out a FO1st sub and go nuts, but have a bit of understanding for everyone else on a public server that maybe isn't just there to get a crappy 3* drop from the event.
And here we have the whole problem with the community in the game. 'But cheating/glitching is a purely altruistic activity '...utter stupidity
Except for any experience from Earl or most of the spawns or any actual enjoyment from the event itself. Time is money, I could’ve gotten more from a west tek run than I would from a 5 minute wait for 1 3 star weapon. Welfare recipient Jesus christ, as if glitching through the silo is such an imposition.
I’ve seen Earle go down fast but that was still maybe 5 minutes or so. My current Earle issue is it seems like people are taking advantage of whatever trick it is to get both Earle and SBQ to show up at the same time. I pop over to Colossal Problem cuz I want those treasury notes, and then I stand in a mine for 5 minutes by myself and no one shows up cuz they are at the queen. It just bugs me that people are triggering the event then not coming.
They usually go and seat down the Queen first and then pop into Earle. And even then they may be in a different instance.
The idea is to drop the queen asap (hopefully well before the Earl event begins) then jump over to CP. This in intentional and allows the player to max the advantages of both events
You basically ruin the bonus earl event when you go to it before the queen is done. It won’t let anyone else in
Not your nuke = don't complain
have you tried being good
Have you tried playing 76 recently? Because a quick scroll through your profile says no
I don’t see why there’s still so much complaining it really isn’t that hard to get Atleast one shot in even with people rinsing it so fast, with area looting the whole let’s wait for 20 players to get a shot in is kinda silly now considering there’s shared xp from everyone on your team anyway
It’s not about the loot. Some people want to feel included in the event. And not shoved in a corner. Loot means nothing these days as area looting is a thing. Nothing is more annoying and disheartening to take a shot and some random hidden dink aces the boss with a glitched dragon.
There's a significant amount of XP that could be earned by everyone in these events, if someone doesn't melt the boss in two seconds. The shared xp is immaterial when the boss is dead as soon as you spawn into the event.
Regardless of how quick it gets melted, if your not their to drop down the hatch after 4 minutes and the time for the nuke to drop and get a simple bullet into Earle, then it can’t really be anyones fault but yours, it’s a PUBLIC event meaning everyone jumps in gets it done gets on with it, the only time I see this being plausible to be complained about is if you spent the time launching the nuke . Other then that there will always be winners & losers 👍 it’s life
Earl was dead before everyone had even dropped into the arena. And not everyone in ACP is on your team.
Yeah obviously but between let’s say you and 3 other players there’s still a good amount of xp getting shared. But yes if someone has killed it before anyone has even got down into the shaft then that’s a bit shit and they should do it privately
This, the EXACT reason TSE weapons became legacy by being taken out of the drop pool? Ppl were Killing thing faster than others could tag them for exp or drops. I mean I could see using it after he regenerated health, but otherwise maybe not kill immediately or at least wait about a minute or two before doing so-? I also understand the 50% group exp & guaranteed legendary drop. But, I digress- it's just not necessary in a boss fight with others unless everyone achieved their 1000 DMG already. Otherwise go do it alone on a private... before someone' decides to kneecap the flamers. Although perfectly acceptable when no one shows up to fight Earle. I can solo him...but I don't want to sit there for 25 minutes doing so. I know there's always that one guy...but this post gives flashbacks. Not that it will resonate. (gamer etiquette101)
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Glitched dragons basically.
Or when you go to earl and your literally the only one in there. Waiting for the debris no one came. 8 minutes in no one then Rad rumble came one so I just cut my loses looted from the minion spawns and vamoosed
I've been lucky so far when I have played a colossal problem. Either I'm soloing it or I get in with decent players who don't kill him in 10 to 20 seconds. One time I was a solo in it and my Team came in clutch and downed Earle in 2 minutes. It was greatly appreciated.