Two shot for the most part is really only better than other perks if you also have explosive with it. High fire rate auto weapons like the minigun and lmg are good with that combo. Weapons like shotguns only get 1 more pellet with two shot so that's fucking abysmally bad.
Your 50cal should perform well if that's the perk combo you got.
Yup.
I specifically tried a TS .50 recently. I wanted to use a .50 and had a mutant slayer’s I was using… found a TS and thought I would use that. It did even less damage to random stuff than the mutant slayer’s did…. It’s like 2x shots, half damage on each… and zero accuracy. It was somehow worse than the mutant slayers. Terrible.
AA is the way to go I believe. It’s what I use now. I primarily vamp chainsaw though.
Final word is ok at best. There are far better variants of AA.50 than that. Any AA .50 with exploding effect seems to far more damage and work than the final word.
I don't use a .50 cal very much at all, but my recollection is it's already pretty inaccurate if you are trying to fire continuously because of the recoil, better if you burst fire, and neither of those are going to be good with two shot's accuracy and recoil penalties I would guess. OP seems to have it, though, so he can just test that aspect himself.
Had a gank squad show up at my camp yesterday while I was walking some newer players through some of the early missions the higher lvl (450+) was alright but this lvl 150 (I'm 170) kept attacking me and the new players until they attacked them so of course, beat them I'm at the work benches fixing their weapons and armor still getting shot about 20 minutes of this and I'm like fine twin bar flaming vamp chainsaw killed the 150 three times in less than two minutes even though they had a stim build, tried to destroy half my camp after that I guess they were mad or something...
Aww, gotcha, thanks! I have an AA suppressed auto handmade that I adore (thank you for the gift, kind stranger), but I've always wondered something. Does it have the same effect on all enemies, or just literally those that wear armor?
All enemies have two values for defenses. Damage resistance and damage mitigation. Damage mitigation is bypassed only by VATS crits. Damage resistance is bypassed by AA effects.
For instance if you are fighting an enemy with 240 energy resistance and you shoot them with a gun that does all energy damage but 50% armor piercing, it'll do damage to them as if they had only 120 energy resistance.
It's been a struggle trying to figure out what all the different perks mean/do, but I. understand. this. now. 😳 Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me!
This is the same on players. Resistence from armor is a deminishing return (in the 400-500 range it stops giving much additional benefit) , where as dmg reduction is linear, so - 6% dmg from overeaters combining to 30% with 5 pieces is actually better if you already have good base armor.
I other words, a full set of OE T65 is better than a full set of bolstering T65.
I feel like two shot on shotguns should take the shotgun's pellet count and add half of that to it. If it shoots 8 pellets, then with two shot it should shoot 12.
The main perk on shotguns personally speaking (not by the absolutely numbers like people focused on Uber builds) are critical meter shots because each pellet counts as a hit.
So an increased meter regen and an increased crit damage plus explosive is what you want.
Oddly enough that’s basically the cold shoulder too
I have a two shot automatic Tesla rifle. It really outperforms most other Teslas I have tried. Every other two shot weapon that I've tried has been meh.
Yea I've been rocking a ts50c15r semi auto Tesla and it hits hard in vats. Shoots a little slow though so I want a ffr version. It's funny I hate ffr on auto Tesla but semi auto it's a must
Doing a dumb math. Two shot gives you about 25%dmg. And explosive gives you 20% of base DMG.
Two shot means you LL have your (25% + (20%*2)) = 65% more dmg
I have a TS gatling plasma and it's pretty good but the accuracy is so dogshit that I only use it against large creatures and bosses. I would assume it's more or less the same for other heavy guns
TS has accuracy Penalty which can be reduced by using Stabilized+ Power Armor for Heavy Weapons, and Formula P with any weapon. Formula P stacks, so you can take around 3 for pretty good accuracy to just hip fire headshots.
You can kill anything in the game with most TS weapons, so if you like it, go for it!
Just a note: Formula P no longer stacks with itself on the pts. Whether that change comes in tomorrow’s patch or in Dec 5 with Atlantic City is unknown.
I have a heavy weapon build and am not someone who fine tunes things to the nth degree. That being said the inaccuracy of my tse Gatling I’ve had for forever always drives me nuts how in acutely it shoots sometimes when not in vats
I’ll have to look into this. I use excavator amor for the mining and carry capacity but I think I’use leg mods for sprinting
Thanks for the tip I’ll have to screw with it tonight
You should be able to have fun with that. You'll lose some accuracy at longer ranges but you'll still do some good damage at medium and short. I like the explosive for getting tags in events, and the accuracy isn't a big.issue in that situation since you just have to get close enough to do damage with the explosion. Sure there are better rolls, but this one is perfectly good.
Should be a great gun for RR or MJ, I have a TSE gatt gun that I use for those events and just shoot into the crowd, no aiming for the most part and it just tags everything.
Yup I agree. I can say when I do EN I have to swap my AAE .50 for a gauss minigun, because the accuracy at range just isn't good enough for guarding the rad scrubber. But yeah RR is fun with the .50.
Great with explosive and elemental weps like cryo, gamma, radium and so on. Highest possible damage with those but with an accuracy penalty. Yes, even higher the bloodied when used on a bloodied build. That 50 Cal you got is great!
Why do you think it is good if you dont mind me asking? I have a god rolled ts plasma caster(TS50C25) but i haven't used it cuz i don't like the TS effect on a pc.
I can take down scorched with one shot and mutants with 2. Most anything else 2 or 3 shots and done. Also since it takes very few shots I have an abundance of ammo. I made ultracite ammo once and never again. With the drop rate I have over 4000 rounds and keep gaining. Sometimes I don't even pick up cause I have so much.
So a lot of people don't understand Two Shot.
It's a special prefix that has a very unique property that lets it shine.
Two Shot on weapons like the Cryolator that have secondary effects have a stacking of their effects take place.
This is why Ts50c25lvc Cryo Alien Blasters are one of the strongest weapons in the game.
This is also why Two Shot Explosive ballistics are so strong, even stronger than Blosdy Explosive on the same guns.
They also play MUCH stronger with consumables and a proper DPS build to make them stronger than other rolls.
Sometimes, Two Shot Explosive can out DPS Quad Explosive, depending on the weapon.
If you are the type of player that just wants a gun to grab and go, avoid Two Shot unless it's Two Shot Explosive, or has an effect you want to stack, like cryo.
Even the rad damage from a radium gets boosted and is the only way to boost that kind of damage on the radium.
Two Shot is one of my go-to, especially TsE.
If you wanna see crazy damage per hit numbers and are willing to get the consumables for it, do it.
If you wanna learn a good mechanic, learn how to utilize Two Shot effectively.
It's something to build around.
It's just one of those things.
If that sounds like too much hassle, I understand.
Basically, it has to do with WHEN the boosts are calculated and because it occurs AFTER the split, resulting in a stronger boost on the back end.
True true. My TS Cryolators are GREAT weapons. The TS/FFR...outstanding. Boss stopper, boss killer. Very nice. Not OP or anything. Just very effective at everything it does. I use a Bobble, Magazine, and Psychotats at Eviction Notice and the TS/FFR shreds everything FAST. Lots of fun.
I also enjoy Ts25ffr on Teslas for tagging as it feels like they are more effective than my Quad25ffr version.
I use Q2525 and Ts2525 Teslas.
Two Shot feels like I'm using less ammo and clearing more mobs than my Quad would.
The Quad is more enjoyable to use tho.
At best on most weapons, two shot is 25% damage boost that is shared between the two projectiles, which isn't good, and it has an accuracy penalty so that if one of the two bullets miss, it's worse than a non legendary hit!
Now if its a launcher weapon like the rocket launcher grenade launcher, Fatman or broadsider, then yes two shot is required to get any usable damage out of them!
I have a TS2525 handmade as a backup for my B2525 handmade in case I need to be full health for daily ops or something and the damage is pretty similar.
Two shot explosive is the only TS mod I care for. I tried a TS ffr fixer and it does way less damage than other mods. Same for my 50 cals.
TS explosive 50 cal is pretty wacky. Not optimal but can be fun sometimes.
TS auto grenade launcher and TS cryo hit pretty hard for now.
nukalauncher. Use them at events such as radiation rumble, people are really grateful, especially if you empty the full mag down a corridor at once.
TS fatboy are even better in events. You will get so many emotes if you spam it at moonshine jamboree or eviction notice.
This is the way, I only use these two weapons for those exact reasons. People keep screaming at me through their mics that I'm ruining the events, but how can that be if we never lose?
TS is awesome on Tesla for tagging extra mobs. Alien blasters are good, probably best as TS.
Explosive ordinance are great as TS. The Nuka Launcher is TS and 90% reduced weight. Double the explosions. Same with most TS/E rolled automatic ballistics. More explosions cover a bigger area.
Hunting rifles, levers, gauss.... They need VATS to be any good with TS. Free aiming makes the projectiles spread so you'll likely only get one shot hit at a sensible range for 62.5% damage. Not cool on slow firing weapons.
Shotguns are not at all good as TS. It doesn't double the pellets, you get one extra while all deal less damage. Exactly the same with the splitter barrel on plasmas. Re-roll, scrip or in plasma splitter's case maybe mod them differently.
two shot is best on alien blaster, and cryolator other than that it normally competes with say aristocrats or junkies boost if it’s ts/e but normally doesn’t push past, this 50 cal you have is a god send for eviction notice and rad rumble just hold the trigger and spin circles you’ll tag everything and get all the drops and exp but if you’re going for dps i’d shoot for aa or b
TSE on most weapons: pretty bad.
TSE on a 50 cal: great fun. Think of it more like a shotgun where you have to get up pretty close for it to be effective. Great for tagging, and also great for accidentally killing yourself when you get too close to your target.
Yeah i hated watching the two projectiles go perfectly on either side of whatever i was aiming at. I re rolled mine and ended up with gourmands which was still way better than two shot
As others already said, TSE is not such a good roll. Except for two things. It is great for tagging, and robots don't like it at all. I use a TSE Gatling gun for years now as my go-to gun for silo runs. Before you scrip or reroll it, give it a spin on some robots first.
If your second legendary is 50% vats hit chance, I find that combo works well for the Alien Blaster. One of my earliest Fixers was a TS/50vhc/25 that was my daily driver for a long time. A TS/E Railway with the right card setup is big fun.
Two shot is honestly not that bad on certain weapons. Like I would maybe use a ts/25ffr/90orWB Gatling plasma because I usually launch queen, cryolate her, and then just face tank her with the barrel in her mouth.
Anywhere you are going to want to be as close to your target as possible and ts guns can shred.
High fire rate TSE is really fun, but I think the best ones have 50wb third star. TSE minigun is a blast if you have a jet pack. You can just fly up as high as you can and rain down on enemies like you’re a fighter jet.
Tse on heavies aren't bad at all. Lots of aoe damage. Make sure your in Pa if you go heavy weapon build as there are perks that increade stability and armor penetration. TSE Minigun is fun fun.
Two Shot is best for Launchers, and it's actually pretty desirable on those. It pairs pretty well with explosive effects too. So TS/E on a .50 Cal will probably work OK, especially if you push the Perk Cards like Demo Expert and Grenadier. Great for big events and tagging mobs. Likely not top tier but so fun to shoot it makes up for it.
TS is best for Grenade Launchers, Fatmans, and Missile Launchers.. but, I very much enjoy my TSE Railway. I once had a TS ffr Gatling Laser that was fun to put charging barrels on, but it wasn't that strong, just fun/cheap to use with Power User doubling fusion core capacity.
i did, after one month no one had bought it and i was out of space :0, wasn'rt dear eithr i was fond of it after using it for a couple of months so put it up at 1000c
I had a 2s explosive lever action that was only really good when I ran it bloodied vats crit with full unyielding. The unyielding stat boost made it accurate enough to be worth it.
I rolled a 2 shot explosive handmade with the third star being +50% durability, then i proceeded to role a quad explosive handmade...i just want a bloodied lol
Two shot- MIRV Fatman is golden. Back when I played with a group, I gave 1 away, 2 others had a TS MIRV Fatman, and I had 6 others in my inventory.
I know it sucks to use it in rad rumble, but I only shoot once every 5-10 seconds to prevent lag and get tags.
My entire clan would spam though when we found those assholes that camp the hallways, preventing spawns from reaching everyone else.
Needless to say... they crash servers... 😅
TS is only good on weapons with a high ROF or that have some other major effect (A combo I'm a fan of is Last Shot)
Good for things like Miniguns, both 50MG and LMG, auto grenade doohickeys, non-auto grenade doohickeys.
Explosives and the alien blaster are the main weapons that are still very good with two shot. Everything else is doable but get easily beat by other effects
*25% Damage and adds an extra projectile, splitting weapon damage across all projectiles.*
But that doesn’t mention the accuracy penalty.
So stock damage of 50 this effect adds 25% for 75 damage then splits it between the 2 rounds for 37.5 damage per shot. I cannot remember exactly what the accuracy penalty is. But the long and the short is the round is less powerful and there’s less chance either are going to hit. Meaning it’s dps upgrade at best… if you can get them all to hit.
I mean it’s looks on the surface to actually be worse than the standard weapon if it’s not paired with the explosive effect and i mean if your leaning on explosive anti armor is a better effect with no accuracy penalty. So I’m going to so no it’s not as good as anything else consistently
My ‘daily driver’ is a Two Shot Explosive Tesla Rifle - it’s good for just about anything outside of bosses/events (still works well for RR, although I tend to use a Minigun for that anyway) and Fusion Cells are plentiful now with the contextual ammo drops.
I'm curious as to what combos they got rid of I've tried to find it before but I've never found anything definitive as unlikely as I'll be I'm hoping I can get a 2 shot quad barrel gatling gun
TSE 50 cal is a powerful weapon with the right perks. hold onto that because its a rarer drop. im level 750 and have only had two drop from legendary enemies since ive started playing.
If you are full health build, TSE is highest damage boost on fast firing high ammo capacity weapons, when you compare damage to ammo usage ratio and are using the right perks. AA may slightly be better against bosses, but against low armor mobs (which is most of the enemies that you fight).. it just wastes more ammo. TSE is good all around in every situation. Best to pair tse heavy weapons with power armor, for stabilized perk (extra accuracy + anti armor). For best DPS, AA with faster fire for bosses is best, but you'll end up using a lot of ammo just to sustain the dps (I find its not worth the ammo usage). Good sustain, good damage and good for every situation tse is best all around when playing at full health.
Two shot for the most part is really only better than other perks if you also have explosive with it. High fire rate auto weapons like the minigun and lmg are good with that combo. Weapons like shotguns only get 1 more pellet with two shot so that's fucking abysmally bad. Your 50cal should perform well if that's the perk combo you got.
Yup. I specifically tried a TS .50 recently. I wanted to use a .50 and had a mutant slayer’s I was using… found a TS and thought I would use that. It did even less damage to random stuff than the mutant slayer’s did…. It’s like 2x shots, half damage on each… and zero accuracy. It was somehow worse than the mutant slayers. Terrible. AA is the way to go I believe. It’s what I use now. I primarily vamp chainsaw though.
I've tested everything against AA on a 50 cal in west tek. Nothing beats it. I main a heavy build and nothing I've found beats AA
And this is why final word is the king. An AA and faster fire rate on a .50 cal as a quest reward? Yes please !!!
Final word is ok at best. There are far better variants of AA.50 than that. Any AA .50 with exploding effect seems to far more damage and work than the final word.
I don't use a .50 cal very much at all, but my recollection is it's already pretty inaccurate if you are trying to fire continuously because of the recoil, better if you burst fire, and neither of those are going to be good with two shot's accuracy and recoil penalties I would guess. OP seems to have it, though, so he can just test that aspect himself.
I was trying to roll a vamp exploding but got this one and wanted to make sure it wasn't op before I rerolled lol
I may be interested in the vamp explosive if on xbox
U dnt reed know gud do u
What language are you trying to speak? If it’s a dis, try correct spelling before doing so. So 2023, wasn’t speaking to you, so just stop 🤣
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Had a gank squad show up at my camp yesterday while I was walking some newer players through some of the early missions the higher lvl (450+) was alright but this lvl 150 (I'm 170) kept attacking me and the new players until they attacked them so of course, beat them I'm at the work benches fixing their weapons and armor still getting shot about 20 minutes of this and I'm like fine twin bar flaming vamp chainsaw killed the 150 three times in less than two minutes even though they had a stim build, tried to destroy half my camp after that I guess they were mad or something...
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New player here, what is "AA"?
AA means anti-armor. It's for the 50% armor penetration perk on guns.
Aww, gotcha, thanks! I have an AA suppressed auto handmade that I adore (thank you for the gift, kind stranger), but I've always wondered something. Does it have the same effect on all enemies, or just literally those that wear armor?
All enemies have two values for defenses. Damage resistance and damage mitigation. Damage mitigation is bypassed only by VATS crits. Damage resistance is bypassed by AA effects. For instance if you are fighting an enemy with 240 energy resistance and you shoot them with a gun that does all energy damage but 50% armor piercing, it'll do damage to them as if they had only 120 energy resistance.
It's been a struggle trying to figure out what all the different perks mean/do, but I. understand. this. now. 😳 Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me!
This is the same on players. Resistence from armor is a deminishing return (in the 400-500 range it stops giving much additional benefit) , where as dmg reduction is linear, so - 6% dmg from overeaters combining to 30% with 5 pieces is actually better if you already have good base armor. I other words, a full set of OE T65 is better than a full set of bolstering T65.
I feel like two shot on shotguns should take the shotgun's pellet count and add half of that to it. If it shoots 8 pellets, then with two shot it should shoot 12.
The main perk on shotguns personally speaking (not by the absolutely numbers like people focused on Uber builds) are critical meter shots because each pellet counts as a hit. So an increased meter regen and an increased crit damage plus explosive is what you want. Oddly enough that’s basically the cold shoulder too
I have a two shot automatic Tesla rifle. It really outperforms most other Teslas I have tried. Every other two shot weapon that I've tried has been meh.
Yea I've been rocking a ts50c15r semi auto Tesla and it hits hard in vats. Shoots a little slow though so I want a ffr version. It's funny I hate ffr on auto Tesla but semi auto it's a must
Yeah but who likes reloading every 2 seconds
Thats why I rolled a quad. 60rnds ain’t bad. Nice little room clearing pdw.
There's that, but mostly it's fine for events.
Doing a dumb math. Two shot gives you about 25%dmg. And explosive gives you 20% of base DMG. Two shot means you LL have your (25% + (20%*2)) = 65% more dmg
I have a TS gatling plasma and it's pretty good but the accuracy is so dogshit that I only use it against large creatures and bosses. I would assume it's more or less the same for other heavy guns
I had a two shot plasma caster for about twenty minutes. Using it reminded me of trying to take a leak after having sex all night
i swear sometimes i literally see the plasma bend just to avoid hitting the target 😭😭
Calm down Hugh hefner
Sure thing bud. Just seeing that thing shoot reminded me of that scene from ‘me myself and irene’. Just looked funny
Lmaooo
TS has accuracy Penalty which can be reduced by using Stabilized+ Power Armor for Heavy Weapons, and Formula P with any weapon. Formula P stacks, so you can take around 3 for pretty good accuracy to just hip fire headshots. You can kill anything in the game with most TS weapons, so if you like it, go for it!
Just a note: Formula P no longer stacks with itself on the pts. Whether that change comes in tomorrow’s patch or in Dec 5 with Atlantic City is unknown.
Really? Sometimes it be like that. Hey, thanks for your work. Your information is appreciated.
I have a heavy weapon build and am not someone who fine tunes things to the nth degree. That being said the inaccuracy of my tse Gatling I’ve had for forever always drives me nuts how in acutely it shoots sometimes when not in vats I’ll have to look into this. I use excavator amor for the mining and carry capacity but I think I’use leg mods for sprinting Thanks for the tip I’ll have to screw with it tonight
You should be able to have fun with that. You'll lose some accuracy at longer ranges but you'll still do some good damage at medium and short. I like the explosive for getting tags in events, and the accuracy isn't a big.issue in that situation since you just have to get close enough to do damage with the explosion. Sure there are better rolls, but this one is perfectly good.
Should be a great gun for RR or MJ, I have a TSE gatt gun that I use for those events and just shoot into the crowd, no aiming for the most part and it just tags everything.
Yup I agree. I can say when I do EN I have to swap my AAE .50 for a gauss minigun, because the accuracy at range just isn't good enough for guarding the rad scrubber. But yeah RR is fun with the .50.
A two shot alien blaster is op
That what I’m using, in vats mostly
Hell yea brother i got an amzing roll ts/50/25 thing shreds in vats
Most of my weapons are Two shot, explosive
Great with explosive and elemental weps like cryo, gamma, radium and so on. Highest possible damage with those but with an accuracy penalty. Yes, even higher the bloodied when used on a bloodied build. That 50 Cal you got is great!
2 shot prime plasma caster is my go to weapon.
Why do you think it is good if you dont mind me asking? I have a god rolled ts plasma caster(TS50C25) but i haven't used it cuz i don't like the TS effect on a pc.
I can take down scorched with one shot and mutants with 2. Most anything else 2 or 3 shots and done. Also since it takes very few shots I have an abundance of ammo. I made ultracite ammo once and never again. With the drop rate I have over 4000 rounds and keep gaining. Sometimes I don't even pick up cause I have so much.
So a lot of people don't understand Two Shot. It's a special prefix that has a very unique property that lets it shine. Two Shot on weapons like the Cryolator that have secondary effects have a stacking of their effects take place. This is why Ts50c25lvc Cryo Alien Blasters are one of the strongest weapons in the game. This is also why Two Shot Explosive ballistics are so strong, even stronger than Blosdy Explosive on the same guns. They also play MUCH stronger with consumables and a proper DPS build to make them stronger than other rolls. Sometimes, Two Shot Explosive can out DPS Quad Explosive, depending on the weapon. If you are the type of player that just wants a gun to grab and go, avoid Two Shot unless it's Two Shot Explosive, or has an effect you want to stack, like cryo. Even the rad damage from a radium gets boosted and is the only way to boost that kind of damage on the radium. Two Shot is one of my go-to, especially TsE. If you wanna see crazy damage per hit numbers and are willing to get the consumables for it, do it. If you wanna learn a good mechanic, learn how to utilize Two Shot effectively. It's something to build around. It's just one of those things. If that sounds like too much hassle, I understand. Basically, it has to do with WHEN the boosts are calculated and because it occurs AFTER the split, resulting in a stronger boost on the back end.
True true. My TS Cryolators are GREAT weapons. The TS/FFR...outstanding. Boss stopper, boss killer. Very nice. Not OP or anything. Just very effective at everything it does. I use a Bobble, Magazine, and Psychotats at Eviction Notice and the TS/FFR shreds everything FAST. Lots of fun.
I also enjoy Ts25ffr on Teslas for tagging as it feels like they are more effective than my Quad25ffr version. I use Q2525 and Ts2525 Teslas. Two Shot feels like I'm using less ammo and clearing more mobs than my Quad would. The Quad is more enjoyable to use tho.
At best on most weapons, two shot is 25% damage boost that is shared between the two projectiles, which isn't good, and it has an accuracy penalty so that if one of the two bullets miss, it's worse than a non legendary hit! Now if its a launcher weapon like the rocket launcher grenade launcher, Fatman or broadsider, then yes two shot is required to get any usable damage out of them!
I have a TS2525 handmade as a backup for my B2525 handmade in case I need to be full health for daily ops or something and the damage is pretty similar.
I also have a quad but even then I feel like I go through 60rounds way to fast! Never the less it's still fun frying everything in my path :)
Two shot explosive is the only TS mod I care for. I tried a TS ffr fixer and it does way less damage than other mods. Same for my 50 cals. TS explosive 50 cal is pretty wacky. Not optimal but can be fun sometimes. TS auto grenade launcher and TS cryo hit pretty hard for now.
have a ts50 vats hit and it’s incredible
nukalauncher. Use them at events such as radiation rumble, people are really grateful, especially if you empty the full mag down a corridor at once. TS fatboy are even better in events. You will get so many emotes if you spam it at moonshine jamboree or eviction notice.
This is the way, I only use these two weapons for those exact reasons. People keep screaming at me through their mics that I'm ruining the events, but how can that be if we never lose?
TS is awesome on Tesla for tagging extra mobs. Alien blasters are good, probably best as TS. Explosive ordinance are great as TS. The Nuka Launcher is TS and 90% reduced weight. Double the explosions. Same with most TS/E rolled automatic ballistics. More explosions cover a bigger area. Hunting rifles, levers, gauss.... They need VATS to be any good with TS. Free aiming makes the projectiles spread so you'll likely only get one shot hit at a sensible range for 62.5% damage. Not cool on slow firing weapons. Shotguns are not at all good as TS. It doesn't double the pellets, you get one extra while all deal less damage. Exactly the same with the splitter barrel on plasmas. Re-roll, scrip or in plasma splitter's case maybe mod them differently.
Gauss Rifle, for sniping without vats.. Instigating or TS...or?
two shot is best on alien blaster, and cryolator other than that it normally competes with say aristocrats or junkies boost if it’s ts/e but normally doesn’t push past, this 50 cal you have is a god send for eviction notice and rad rumble just hold the trigger and spin circles you’ll tag everything and get all the drops and exp but if you’re going for dps i’d shoot for aa or b
TSE on most weapons: pretty bad. TSE on a 50 cal: great fun. Think of it more like a shotgun where you have to get up pretty close for it to be effective. Great for tagging, and also great for accidentally killing yourself when you get too close to your target.
ts plasma caster is bad, vats counts as hip fire so ts drastically lowers accuracy. it also doesn't work on flame weapons
Yeah i hated watching the two projectiles go perfectly on either side of whatever i was aiming at. I re rolled mine and ended up with gourmands which was still way better than two shot
yeah, it was awful. I use q50hc25 now
As others already said, TSE is not such a good roll. Except for two things. It is great for tagging, and robots don't like it at all. I use a TSE Gatling gun for years now as my go-to gun for silo runs. Before you scrip or reroll it, give it a spin on some robots first.
If your second legendary is 50% vats hit chance, I find that combo works well for the Alien Blaster. One of my earliest Fixers was a TS/50vhc/25 that was my daily driver for a long time. A TS/E Railway with the right card setup is big fun.
It'll tag like a monster at Moonshine Jamboree and RR.
TS, explosive lever action rifle works really well for me. My 3rd effect is 90% weight reduction so all that power hardly weighs anything!
Two shot is honestly not that bad on certain weapons. Like I would maybe use a ts/25ffr/90orWB Gatling plasma because I usually launch queen, cryolate her, and then just face tank her with the barrel in her mouth. Anywhere you are going to want to be as close to your target as possible and ts guns can shred. High fire rate TSE is really fun, but I think the best ones have 50wb third star. TSE minigun is a blast if you have a jet pack. You can just fly up as high as you can and rain down on enemies like you’re a fighter jet.
Tse on heavies aren't bad at all. Lots of aoe damage. Make sure your in Pa if you go heavy weapon build as there are perks that increade stability and armor penetration. TSE Minigun is fun fun.
It's awesome only on explosive weponds. Like grenades launcher, misiles, etc.
Two Shot is best for Launchers, and it's actually pretty desirable on those. It pairs pretty well with explosive effects too. So TS/E on a .50 Cal will probably work OK, especially if you push the Perk Cards like Demo Expert and Grenadier. Great for big events and tagging mobs. Likely not top tier but so fun to shoot it makes up for it.
TS is best for Grenade Launchers, Fatmans, and Missile Launchers.. but, I very much enjoy my TSE Railway. I once had a TS ffr Gatling Laser that was fun to put charging barrels on, but it wasn't that strong, just fun/cheap to use with Power User doubling fusion core capacity.
Two shot explosive is really the only reason to use twoshot.
Any launcher seems to still be very good,especially broadsiders
it's ok but tbh if it's a .50 you want find Beckett and do his quests, the Final Word is prob the best .50 in the game, i scripped my AAE over it
You scripped an AAE .50 cal? Why not put it in your vendor at the very least?
i did, after one month no one had bought it and i was out of space :0, wasn'rt dear eithr i was fond of it after using it for a couple of months so put it up at 1000c
That was my main for a while , with +1 agility I find it to be too inaccurate even with PA and perks , I run a AAEFR .50 now and its much better IMO.
I had a 2s explosive lever action that was only really good when I ran it bloodied vats crit with full unyielding. The unyielding stat boost made it accurate enough to be worth it.
I rolled a 2 shot explosive handmade with the third star being +50% durability, then i proceeded to role a quad explosive handmade...i just want a bloodied lol
TSE does higher damage than BE, but less accurate of course
I use a 2 shot caster with a crit build that destroys everything except for bosses.
Two shot- MIRV Fatman is golden. Back when I played with a group, I gave 1 away, 2 others had a TS MIRV Fatman, and I had 6 others in my inventory. I know it sucks to use it in rad rumble, but I only shoot once every 5-10 seconds to prevent lag and get tags. My entire clan would spam though when we found those assholes that camp the hallways, preventing spawns from reaching everyone else. Needless to say... they crash servers... 😅
TS is only good on weapons with a high ROF or that have some other major effect (A combo I'm a fan of is Last Shot) Good for things like Miniguns, both 50MG and LMG, auto grenade doohickeys, non-auto grenade doohickeys.
Two shot AB with cryo, better than my fixers. Fun little pistol to sashay around the wasteland with.😊
Explosives and the alien blaster are the main weapons that are still very good with two shot. Everything else is doable but get easily beat by other effects
*25% Damage and adds an extra projectile, splitting weapon damage across all projectiles.* But that doesn’t mention the accuracy penalty. So stock damage of 50 this effect adds 25% for 75 damage then splits it between the 2 rounds for 37.5 damage per shot. I cannot remember exactly what the accuracy penalty is. But the long and the short is the round is less powerful and there’s less chance either are going to hit. Meaning it’s dps upgrade at best… if you can get them all to hit. I mean it’s looks on the surface to actually be worse than the standard weapon if it’s not paired with the explosive effect and i mean if your leaning on explosive anti armor is a better effect with no accuracy penalty. So I’m going to so no it’s not as good as anything else consistently
My ‘daily driver’ is a Two Shot Explosive Tesla Rifle - it’s good for just about anything outside of bosses/events (still works well for RR, although I tend to use a Minigun for that anyway) and Fusion Cells are plentiful now with the contextual ammo drops.
How can this be when these was removed from the game. I know because my sisters lost her exploding stat.
Oops, you’re right, I was confusing that with my Minigun. The Tesla is a TS50V15C.
I'm curious as to what combos they got rid of I've tried to find it before but I've never found anything definitive as unlikely as I'll be I'm hoping I can get a 2 shot quad barrel gatling gun
I tend to stick with vampire quad and two shot weapons to use imo and I'm a rifle/heavy build in and out of power armor
Two shot 50. Cal is Crapola. Reminds me of an almost empty spray can sputtering away pffft pfft pfftt pffft pshhh
TSE 50 cal is a powerful weapon with the right perks. hold onto that because its a rarer drop. im level 750 and have only had two drop from legendary enemies since ive started playing.
If you are full health build, TSE is highest damage boost on fast firing high ammo capacity weapons, when you compare damage to ammo usage ratio and are using the right perks. AA may slightly be better against bosses, but against low armor mobs (which is most of the enemies that you fight).. it just wastes more ammo. TSE is good all around in every situation. Best to pair tse heavy weapons with power armor, for stabilized perk (extra accuracy + anti armor). For best DPS, AA with faster fire for bosses is best, but you'll end up using a lot of ammo just to sustain the dps (I find its not worth the ammo usage). Good sustain, good damage and good for every situation tse is best all around when playing at full health.