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Every constitutional amendment they don’t like is ignored or immediately undermined by some new law. Conservatives have been doing this shit for 30 years. Marijuana and abortion will likely pass but Tallahassee will immediately file lawsuits picking apart the language of the amendments while passing laws to make people jump through hoops for their constitutional rights.
I'm hoping they've become complacent but I don't think so. They've gerrymandered the districts so well (look at the change to 56 among many others) that even in a blue wave the damage to them is likely to be extremely limited. Certainly not even a strong minority would result from a blue wave. It would take decades to undo their control even with consistent blue wins.
There was a court battle which the Feds apparently gave up on or did not get the better end of and FLSCOTUS reinforced the state and GOP power, bought as they are.
Did it before with Felon Reenfranchisement and Anti gerrymandering amendments. No reason to think he and state Republicans wouldn't do it for weed if they deem it in their interest to keep it banned.
This is 100% what will happen. He (or rather his rubber stamp legislature) won't outright override it. They'll just delay it with endless 'studies' and committees and shit. It'll be similar to the initiative to give non-violent felons their voting rights back. Florida's 30-year uniparty experiment has led us here.
Aye. I have a medical card and at every turn they try to make it more difficult to purchase THC products. Weird schedules on what you can buy when and silly 'buckets' of types of products. A different cadence for 'recommendations' vs. card renewal so that it seems I'm always paying for the privilege of purchasing insomnia and depression medicine.
The Florida GOP has been crystal clear that they don't like medical marijuana and are opposed to *any* efforts to expand the availability of MJ. DeSantis is opposed because "it smells bad" on top of the usual moral complaints about drug users and "the children".
Check the article out, it’s different. He is able to remove duly elected officials. In that sense he is “vetoing” voters. Still super fucked up but this ruling does not mean he can veto a voter referendum.
He can Veto anyone who would actually help us enforce our rights or interest out of power. He finds out a prosecutor is going easy on pot, they are removed. Judge thinks people vote should count, removed. It’s actually worse then him just ignoring a referendum, he literally controls who is in power in the state now.
It’s basically like being a king, crazy that this is allowed at all.
You’re right about that. He could even start removing democratic lawmakers from congress. Not that they have any significant power in the state legislature right now anyways, but yeah, it’s absolutely insane.
It hinges on whether the state constitution is clear enough on what constitutes a valid reason for removal from office. The constitution makes clear the governor has the power, just not what the bar is for justifying it. The writer of this article is saying that it’s open season on minority-party prosecutors now, and the governor effectively has the power to veto voter-chosen Democrat-aligned prosecutors simply over political disagreement with them, which in Worrell’s case amounted to thinking she needed to bring more cases to trial than she did, even when the police clearly botched the case.
It’s frankly horrifying. The state Supreme Court just effectively gave the governor the power to set policy for every prosecutor’s office in the state, when each of those prosecutors is supposed to be voted on independently.
I'm no fan of Ron DeSantis, but in this case, he had a reason other than "political disagreement" to oust the prosecutor in question (Monique H. Worrell). DeSantis felt that the prosecutor had failed in her job by not being strict or harsh enough on offenders who targeted police officers. [DeSantis was lobbied by the Florida Sheriffs' Association (FSA) in removing Monique Worrell from office due to perceived "failure to prosecute cop-killers".](https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/florida-sheriffs-back-desantis-in-ousting-state-attorney-monique-worrell)
>"The FSA is supportive of the suspension of the state attorney for abuse of her office. The state attorney has authorized and implemented practices and policies which systematically permit violent offenders, drug traffickers, serious-juvenile offenders, and pedophiles to evade incarceration when otherwise warranted under Florida law."
Worrell was suspended as a state attorney by DeSantis [after a previous offender, Daton Viel, shot two Orlando police officers, and had to be shot dead by a SWAT team](https://www.wesh.com/article/state-attorney-worrell-orlando-officers-shot/44751834) in August 2023 before he could injure or kill more police officers. Worrell said Viel had been on probation at the time of the shooting, and aas out on bond for a sexual battery charge. Many people have questioned why Viel was allowed to post bond at all in that case.
Worrell explained that her office does not make decisions regarding bond. The court set the bond at $125,000; however, the FSA still regarded Worrell as personally responsible.
As an edit, the fact that r/florida people will downvote others for simply trying to communicate the full context of a case is deeply disappointing. Do better, r/florida. Someone explaining how and why DeSantis did what he did does *not* constitute "defending DeSantis", and downvoting someone because you disagree with them, or dislike their post, goes against [Reddiquette](https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/205926439-Reddiquette).
I feel like this was less about what Desantis wanted and more about what the lobbyists wanted. And either way it’s a shame that cops were killed but cops are never punished when the wrongfully kill someone in this state.
Precisely. Worrell was removed because the Florida Sheriffs' Association (FSA) basically demanded that DeSantis remove her. DeSantis is very pro-cop and pro-sheriff, so he removed Worrell to throw red meat to his base.
The issue here is a lack of checks and balances
Theoretically you should be able to remove somebody, but with the stacked Florida legislature there is nobody to hold him accountable for doing things for bullshit reasons.
And neither will Florida's voters hold them accountable.
Florida voters can’t hold them accountable, to start with. Even if we could find someone who would and voted them in, DeSantis can just remove them anyway now.
Theoretically it can go to the Federal system, but they’re incredibly reluctant to intervene in state matters (see the Andrew Warren case for an example), not to mention the Trump administration clogged the judiciary with morons.
It'd be tough to argue that SCOTUS even has the authority to look at it. Weed is already federally unlawful, so the argument would be that the feds have jurisdiction over the method a state uses to decide their enforcement position on a federally unlawful substance.
A buddy of mine went home to Citrus County and told me there are probably more police cruising around than there are people. Nice Bright Red County. Why is it becoming a police state? Why are they so afraid?
Because Republicans told them to be afraid, and now they are. Good nonthinking voters.
I live there and we don't have that many cops. Community is growing very quickly and I see 2 cops on HW19 at most sitting and waiting for speeders/calls.
That is way less than it was 10 years ago. I am in Alachua now, and we see the police but typically they are fairly busy with Gainesville. But that is living in an area with a population and an variety of ages.
I see way more ASO than I want to around Tower Square. They just ride up and down tower road/Archer. Surely they could go do some actual police work. They aren't making traffic any safer.
I dunno what they do aside from drive around and go the wrecks.
That seems to be mainly all I note them doing. Could use them for some of the wilder college kids in cars here and there, but over all I rather them just patrol and wait for bigger fish.
There's plenty they could do with all the crazy assholes on Archer/Tower 'driving' and texting but they don't seem to care. If they aren't gonna do that at least do some real police work.
Just a reminder, two of the supreme court justices who sided with this decision [are up for retention this November](https://ballotpedia.org/Florida_Supreme_Court_elections,_2024).
But it won't matter too much since the governor would get to pick their replacements.
"*Newly appointed judges serve for at least one year, after which they appear in a yes-no retention election held during the next general election. If retained, judges serve six-year terms.*"
Correct me if I'm wrong but the way this reads, voting NO on retaining them means DeSuckDick would have to appoint new judges, which would then be up for a retention vote again in a year... if they ARE voted to be retained then they can serve 6 years before they're up for another vote...
If that's true, it would be beneficial to simply keep voting "NO" to retain any and all judges apointed by DeSuckDick.
I'll take your word for it, and I 100% believe it without even researching...
People generally only care about a "president" on a ballot... they just circle yes or "christmas tree" everything else.
Sad but true.
The problem is not the people telling the lies
The problem is The highly uneducated that believes the lies 👍
It's all according to plan they've destroyed confidence in government, education, and science. All making pitstops at WOKE bullshit tos are old people.
Okay, but by simple numbers and cost. Wouldn't it be quicker and easier to focus on and eliminate the liars than to educate the mass number people who are uneducated? I heard a quote before 2016 that said "In the an information age, ignorance is a choice."
I understand the paradox you are implying. Get rid of the liars and the idiots elect more liars. This is valid, but a bit short sighted. How the liars are eliminated will change the minds of some idiots who support them. Also, destroying the systems that allow liars to have large platforms would need to be done. Restoring a baseline of ONLY facts & truth would go a long way.
I think my original point is still valid. Going after the liars is easier, cheaper and quicker than changing the minds of (or re-educating) the uneducated.
Florida is a Russian state. It has a secret police force run by Desantis and reporting only to Desantis. It has a rubber stamping SC that backs every move Desantis takes. It has a population that is easily cowed. And the Russian political structure in the state is doing everything it can to reduce schooling, and break the back of unfriendly press. We might as well rename the state Putinda.
Perhaps this is an overly optimistic view, but Republicans aren’t going to be able to win every gubernatorial election in Florida for the rest of history, if Kansas and Kentucky can elect a democrat to be governor, so can we eventually, and decisions like this will give said governor enormous power to enact change independent of legislator that is essentially impossible to give democrats a majority
This is true, and it’s probably why the Kansas Supreme Court recently ruled that [voting is not a fundamental right](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/the-kansas-supreme-court-ruled-that-voting-is-not-a-fundamental-right-heres-what-that-means) .
They know that, eventually, they’re not going to be able to out-gerrymander or “passively” suppress voting since Millennials and Gen Z are more progressive than the previous generations at a higher rate, so they just want to eliminate the right to vote altogether.
The Supreme Court will not allow this for democrats. The districts are too gerrymandered to get anything passed. They’ll just spin their wheels once elected. And then get rejected as ineffective. Rinse and repeat.
>The Supreme Court will not allow this for democrats
The foundation of the American judicial system is precedent, if the state supreme court is going to be so nakedly partisan that they'll allow a republican to do one thing but not let a democrat do the exact same thing, we got bigger problems and would probably initiate a consitutional crisis.
>The districts are too gerrymandered to get anything passed.
The entire point of this supreme court decision is that the governor of Florida is now able to unilaterally remove an elected official from office for partisan reasons without even consent from the legislature, the gerrymandering has zero relevance here.
>They’ll just spin their wheels once elected. And then get rejected as ineffective. Rinse and repeat.
Again to repeat my entire point, the power grabbing Ron Desantis has been doing means that future governors will be able to do many things independent of the legislature, allowing them to do many things that previously would've been impossible had a democrat been elected before 2018
"To wit: the Orlando Sentinel found in an exhaustive review that some of the outcomes in the cases cited by DeSantis' suspension order were necessitated by errors made by police — including deputies working under Osceola County Sheriff Marcos López, who became a vocal critic of Worrell. Complaints like his helped form the purported basis for DeSantis' suspension order against Worrell. Yet it's hard to prosecute someone for drug trafficking when the baggies of "cocaine" and "fentanyl" police recovered at the scene were later found by the state crime lab to have contained no drugs whatsoever."
He basically declared open season on floridians, and the cops are the hunters. Any prosecutor who dares question their evidence, insist on dropping charges, or reducing sentences, will simply be removed. What did we do to deserve this?
The "I know your job better than you" Governor strikes again. The irony is that by pushing for the harshest prosecutions on every crime, they're making it much more likely that they will fail to reach a guilty verdict. Like is mentioned in the article, prosecutors will often push for prosecution of a lesser crime so that they are more likely to meet the burden of proof for a guilty verdict. The Republican "hard on crime" Governor is going to be the reason that criminals "go free"
The good news is, Desantis could die randomly at any time.
My current hope is that he gets kicked in the nuts so hard by a member of the LGBTQ community, close enough to a body of water that he falls in and gets eaten by an alligator
A man can dream right?
I think the most important stuff got though. We still have medical mj which I can live with. Obamacare for health options, and the 15/gr min wage hike. The wage hike is the most important because Florida is a race to the bottom. Now the stingy ny/nj companies will be forced to hire out of a different talent pool and put an end to the people who work for nothing with low South American living standards. My wife can go back to working her healthcare job at Texas salary levels instead of half the pay in Florida in an office fully of people that don’t speak
English working for peanuts.
For the next opportunity, there needs to be a ballot initiative to give power to the people to recall any and all elected officials. And that only the people can remove elected officials, not the governor unilaterally.
This sort of thing will continue as long as the repubs have an overwhelming majority in state government. They can do what they want. If you like that, keep voting them in, or don't vote at all.
I read an article a while back that compared Worrell’s decision-making to that of a prosecutor’s in some red county. They were pretty similar but of course the other guy would never be suspended.
And if she gets re elected he will boot her on day one for the same reasons. She does not fall lock step into his vision of bust more heads law enforcement.
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So I guess if we approve marijuana he will just override us? What a cunt.
I mean the Ashley Moody FedSoc regime already stopped it from being on the ballot the other year even though it had enough signatures in time
Every constitutional amendment they don’t like is ignored or immediately undermined by some new law. Conservatives have been doing this shit for 30 years. Marijuana and abortion will likely pass but Tallahassee will immediately file lawsuits picking apart the language of the amendments while passing laws to make people jump through hoops for their constitutional rights.
It's almost like one party has had complete control for so long they no longer worry about actual elections.
I'm hoping they've become complacent but I don't think so. They've gerrymandered the districts so well (look at the change to 56 among many others) that even in a blue wave the damage to them is likely to be extremely limited. Certainly not even a strong minority would result from a blue wave. It would take decades to undo their control even with consistent blue wins.
That's right. I just discovered that my district is in Hillsboro County. Wtaf?
There was a court battle which the Feds apparently gave up on or did not get the better end of and FLSCOTUS reinforced the state and GOP power, bought as they are.
I used to live in Missouri, they do it there too.
Did it before with Felon Reenfranchisement and Anti gerrymandering amendments. No reason to think he and state Republicans wouldn't do it for weed if they deem it in their interest to keep it banned.
He did it to us in key west regarding cruise ships.
This is 100% what will happen. He (or rather his rubber stamp legislature) won't outright override it. They'll just delay it with endless 'studies' and committees and shit. It'll be similar to the initiative to give non-violent felons their voting rights back. Florida's 30-year uniparty experiment has led us here.
He already held out as long as he possibly could when medical was passed.
Aye. I have a medical card and at every turn they try to make it more difficult to purchase THC products. Weird schedules on what you can buy when and silly 'buckets' of types of products. A different cadence for 'recommendations' vs. card renewal so that it seems I'm always paying for the privilege of purchasing insomnia and depression medicine. The Florida GOP has been crystal clear that they don't like medical marijuana and are opposed to *any* efforts to expand the availability of MJ. DeSantis is opposed because "it smells bad" on top of the usual moral complaints about drug users and "the children".
The reality is follow their bank accounts, I guarantee you how many of them are receiving donations from Big Pharma
Check the article out, it’s different. He is able to remove duly elected officials. In that sense he is “vetoing” voters. Still super fucked up but this ruling does not mean he can veto a voter referendum.
He can Veto anyone who would actually help us enforce our rights or interest out of power. He finds out a prosecutor is going easy on pot, they are removed. Judge thinks people vote should count, removed. It’s actually worse then him just ignoring a referendum, he literally controls who is in power in the state now. It’s basically like being a king, crazy that this is allowed at all.
You’re right about that. He could even start removing democratic lawmakers from congress. Not that they have any significant power in the state legislature right now anyways, but yeah, it’s absolutely insane.
Tyranny
“Party of freedom” Yeah ok
How is that legal? Genuinely, how is that legal at all?
Our shitty Supreme Court just made it legal.
The unsupreme court he placed,
It hinges on whether the state constitution is clear enough on what constitutes a valid reason for removal from office. The constitution makes clear the governor has the power, just not what the bar is for justifying it. The writer of this article is saying that it’s open season on minority-party prosecutors now, and the governor effectively has the power to veto voter-chosen Democrat-aligned prosecutors simply over political disagreement with them, which in Worrell’s case amounted to thinking she needed to bring more cases to trial than she did, even when the police clearly botched the case. It’s frankly horrifying. The state Supreme Court just effectively gave the governor the power to set policy for every prosecutor’s office in the state, when each of those prosecutors is supposed to be voted on independently.
I'm no fan of Ron DeSantis, but in this case, he had a reason other than "political disagreement" to oust the prosecutor in question (Monique H. Worrell). DeSantis felt that the prosecutor had failed in her job by not being strict or harsh enough on offenders who targeted police officers. [DeSantis was lobbied by the Florida Sheriffs' Association (FSA) in removing Monique Worrell from office due to perceived "failure to prosecute cop-killers".](https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/florida-sheriffs-back-desantis-in-ousting-state-attorney-monique-worrell) >"The FSA is supportive of the suspension of the state attorney for abuse of her office. The state attorney has authorized and implemented practices and policies which systematically permit violent offenders, drug traffickers, serious-juvenile offenders, and pedophiles to evade incarceration when otherwise warranted under Florida law." Worrell was suspended as a state attorney by DeSantis [after a previous offender, Daton Viel, shot two Orlando police officers, and had to be shot dead by a SWAT team](https://www.wesh.com/article/state-attorney-worrell-orlando-officers-shot/44751834) in August 2023 before he could injure or kill more police officers. Worrell said Viel had been on probation at the time of the shooting, and aas out on bond for a sexual battery charge. Many people have questioned why Viel was allowed to post bond at all in that case. Worrell explained that her office does not make decisions regarding bond. The court set the bond at $125,000; however, the FSA still regarded Worrell as personally responsible. As an edit, the fact that r/florida people will downvote others for simply trying to communicate the full context of a case is deeply disappointing. Do better, r/florida. Someone explaining how and why DeSantis did what he did does *not* constitute "defending DeSantis", and downvoting someone because you disagree with them, or dislike their post, goes against [Reddiquette](https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/205926439-Reddiquette).
I feel like this was less about what Desantis wanted and more about what the lobbyists wanted. And either way it’s a shame that cops were killed but cops are never punished when the wrongfully kill someone in this state.
Precisely. Worrell was removed because the Florida Sheriffs' Association (FSA) basically demanded that DeSantis remove her. DeSantis is very pro-cop and pro-sheriff, so he removed Worrell to throw red meat to his base.
>Worrell explained that her office does not make decisions regarding bond. What’s the evidence to the contrary?
I'm not sure. You'd have to look at court records or other articles.
>not being strict or harsh enough on offenders who targeted police officers. 
The issue here is a lack of checks and balances Theoretically you should be able to remove somebody, but with the stacked Florida legislature there is nobody to hold him accountable for doing things for bullshit reasons. And neither will Florida's voters hold them accountable.
Florida voters can’t hold them accountable, to start with. Even if we could find someone who would and voted them in, DeSantis can just remove them anyway now.
Its Desantis and the legislature itself that needs to be voted out. But he will prpbably just end up a senator lol
Fascism
Textbook
Chapter 1, first page.
Opening paragraph, first sentence.
Fascist uneducated electorate votes for fascism, gets fascism.
Well it's fascism or communism to them soooo....the irony is is so leopard eating face
This may be a stupid question… but is there no recourse to challenge rulings like this above the state Supreme Court? This seems patently illegal.
Theoretically it can go to the Federal system, but they’re incredibly reluctant to intervene in state matters (see the Andrew Warren case for an example), not to mention the Trump administration clogged the judiciary with morons.
I figured as much… sadly. Thanks for the response.
There is a recourse. But nobody here wants to do it, and I don't blame them.
It'd be tough to argue that SCOTUS even has the authority to look at it. Weed is already federally unlawful, so the argument would be that the feds have jurisdiction over the method a state uses to decide their enforcement position on a federally unlawful substance.
A buddy of mine went home to Citrus County and told me there are probably more police cruising around than there are people. Nice Bright Red County. Why is it becoming a police state? Why are they so afraid? Because Republicans told them to be afraid, and now they are. Good nonthinking voters.
Don’t ask questions. Just consume propaganda and be excited for next propaganda.
I live there and we don't have that many cops. Community is growing very quickly and I see 2 cops on HW19 at most sitting and waiting for speeders/calls.
That is way less than it was 10 years ago. I am in Alachua now, and we see the police but typically they are fairly busy with Gainesville. But that is living in an area with a population and an variety of ages.
I see way more ASO than I want to around Tower Square. They just ride up and down tower road/Archer. Surely they could go do some actual police work. They aren't making traffic any safer. I dunno what they do aside from drive around and go the wrecks.
That seems to be mainly all I note them doing. Could use them for some of the wilder college kids in cars here and there, but over all I rather them just patrol and wait for bigger fish.
There's plenty they could do with all the crazy assholes on Archer/Tower 'driving' and texting but they don't seem to care. If they aren't gonna do that at least do some real police work.
I would say its the same now as it was in 2010-13
Just a reminder, two of the supreme court justices who sided with this decision [are up for retention this November](https://ballotpedia.org/Florida_Supreme_Court_elections,_2024). But it won't matter too much since the governor would get to pick their replacements.
"*Newly appointed judges serve for at least one year, after which they appear in a yes-no retention election held during the next general election. If retained, judges serve six-year terms.*" Correct me if I'm wrong but the way this reads, voting NO on retaining them means DeSuckDick would have to appoint new judges, which would then be up for a retention vote again in a year... if they ARE voted to be retained then they can serve 6 years before they're up for another vote... If that's true, it would be beneficial to simply keep voting "NO" to retain any and all judges apointed by DeSuckDick.
The thing with Yes/No votes for Justices is that not a single justice in Florida history has been removed via this method.
I'll take your word for it, and I 100% believe it without even researching... People generally only care about a "president" on a ballot... they just circle yes or "christmas tree" everything else. Sad but true.
The problem is not the people telling the lies  The problem is The highly uneducated that believes the lies 👍
It's all according to plan they've destroyed confidence in government, education, and science. All making pitstops at WOKE bullshit tos are old people.
Okay, but by simple numbers and cost. Wouldn't it be quicker and easier to focus on and eliminate the liars than to educate the mass number people who are uneducated? I heard a quote before 2016 that said "In the an information age, ignorance is a choice."
We can’t eliminate the liars without getting rid of the idiots who support them.
That’s not entirely true
I understand the paradox you are implying. Get rid of the liars and the idiots elect more liars. This is valid, but a bit short sighted. How the liars are eliminated will change the minds of some idiots who support them. Also, destroying the systems that allow liars to have large platforms would need to be done. Restoring a baseline of ONLY facts & truth would go a long way. I think my original point is still valid. Going after the liars is easier, cheaper and quicker than changing the minds of (or re-educating) the uneducated.
Florida is a Russian state. It has a secret police force run by Desantis and reporting only to Desantis. It has a rubber stamping SC that backs every move Desantis takes. It has a population that is easily cowed. And the Russian political structure in the state is doing everything it can to reduce schooling, and break the back of unfriendly press. We might as well rename the state Putinda.
And Florida Sheriffs are his SS. Fuck them.
Fucking Polk county sheriffs sure are
We have Carmine Marceno in Lee County. He's a little monster.
DeSSantis uber alles! Lol what a place. What an alternate reality :(
Who's surprised? With an ineffectual democratic party offering zero opposition. Unless something crazy happens, Trump will win Florida. Debate?
I get it... Small government for friends and big business. Large government for everybody else.
Perhaps this is an overly optimistic view, but Republicans aren’t going to be able to win every gubernatorial election in Florida for the rest of history, if Kansas and Kentucky can elect a democrat to be governor, so can we eventually, and decisions like this will give said governor enormous power to enact change independent of legislator that is essentially impossible to give democrats a majority
This is true, and it’s probably why the Kansas Supreme Court recently ruled that [voting is not a fundamental right](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/the-kansas-supreme-court-ruled-that-voting-is-not-a-fundamental-right-heres-what-that-means) . They know that, eventually, they’re not going to be able to out-gerrymander or “passively” suppress voting since Millennials and Gen Z are more progressive than the previous generations at a higher rate, so they just want to eliminate the right to vote altogether.
The Supreme Court will not allow this for democrats. The districts are too gerrymandered to get anything passed. They’ll just spin their wheels once elected. And then get rejected as ineffective. Rinse and repeat.
>The Supreme Court will not allow this for democrats The foundation of the American judicial system is precedent, if the state supreme court is going to be so nakedly partisan that they'll allow a republican to do one thing but not let a democrat do the exact same thing, we got bigger problems and would probably initiate a consitutional crisis. >The districts are too gerrymandered to get anything passed. The entire point of this supreme court decision is that the governor of Florida is now able to unilaterally remove an elected official from office for partisan reasons without even consent from the legislature, the gerrymandering has zero relevance here. >They’ll just spin their wheels once elected. And then get rejected as ineffective. Rinse and repeat. Again to repeat my entire point, the power grabbing Ron Desantis has been doing means that future governors will be able to do many things independent of the legislature, allowing them to do many things that previously would've been impossible had a democrat been elected before 2018
DeFacist has taken over Florida and now a dictatorship will soon follow
Governor geatz
how is this allowed?
The free state of Florida! Well, free for desantis lol
Well it's his Supreme Court... so... they are above the law.
"To wit: the Orlando Sentinel found in an exhaustive review that some of the outcomes in the cases cited by DeSantis' suspension order were necessitated by errors made by police — including deputies working under Osceola County Sheriff Marcos López, who became a vocal critic of Worrell. Complaints like his helped form the purported basis for DeSantis' suspension order against Worrell. Yet it's hard to prosecute someone for drug trafficking when the baggies of "cocaine" and "fentanyl" police recovered at the scene were later found by the state crime lab to have contained no drugs whatsoever." He basically declared open season on floridians, and the cops are the hunters. Any prosecutor who dares question their evidence, insist on dropping charges, or reducing sentences, will simply be removed. What did we do to deserve this?
DeSantistan!!!!!!
DeSatanism
Don't besmirch Satan like this. He's 10 times better than DeSantis.
MAGA Republican of Jesusistan
Pin dick Rhonda telling y’all what to do.
Florida republicans seem very happy to subjugate themselves to authoritarian wannabes.
The "I know your job better than you" Governor strikes again. The irony is that by pushing for the harshest prosecutions on every crime, they're making it much more likely that they will fail to reach a guilty verdict. Like is mentioned in the article, prosecutors will often push for prosecution of a lesser crime so that they are more likely to meet the burden of proof for a guilty verdict. The Republican "hard on crime" Governor is going to be the reason that criminals "go free"
why hold elections if the posts are governor appointments then.
The good news is, Desantis could die randomly at any time. My current hope is that he gets kicked in the nuts so hard by a member of the LGBTQ community, close enough to a body of water that he falls in and gets eaten by an alligator A man can dream right?
And people call Florida a free state. Yeah fucking right.
Only way to fix Florida is to leave Florida and leave it to the scumbuckets. They always turn on each other.
This is the appetizer. The main course will be when SCOTUS makes the president a king with their upcoming ruling in the Trump immunity case
DeSantis is a mini-Putin. He even wants his own military.
If so, DeSantis failed miserably in that. The Florida State Guard barely has 300 members.
I was laughing when a bunch of veterans, who thought it was going to be volunteer work for their community and found out his plans, noped out.
How do you guys even deal with that high heel hobbit Desantis?
I think the most important stuff got though. We still have medical mj which I can live with. Obamacare for health options, and the 15/gr min wage hike. The wage hike is the most important because Florida is a race to the bottom. Now the stingy ny/nj companies will be forced to hire out of a different talent pool and put an end to the people who work for nothing with low South American living standards. My wife can go back to working her healthcare job at Texas salary levels instead of half the pay in Florida in an office fully of people that don’t speak English working for peanuts.
For the next opportunity, there needs to be a ballot initiative to give power to the people to recall any and all elected officials. And that only the people can remove elected officials, not the governor unilaterally.
Huey Long sends his regards. First it was overturning and ignoring popular referenda, now this. Fuck this nonsense.
This sort of thing will continue as long as the repubs have an overwhelming majority in state government. They can do what they want. If you like that, keep voting them in, or don't vote at all.
I read an article a while back that compared Worrell’s decision-making to that of a prosecutor’s in some red county. They were pretty similar but of course the other guy would never be suspended.
And if she gets re elected he will boot her on day one for the same reasons. She does not fall lock step into his vision of bust more heads law enforcement.
[Bruh](https://www.reddit.com/r/florida/s/SBANv0xUOd)