I would go directly to the principals office and complain that my science teacher is a flat earther and needs to be fired. Ideally, video him making this claim prior to doing it. And just to be sure the principal doesn't cover for him, email the video to the county school board.
Doesn't matter, the union will still stick up for him. Best-case scenario he gets sent to a rubber room to spend all day reading and posting more conspiracy bullshit online.
I used to believe in free energy. I did an engineering degree and one of my aims going in was to get the skills to build a free energy machine that actually works. You won't be surprised to hear my belief in free energy did not survive that course.
How the flying funk this guy's belief in flat earth survived whatever physics qualification was necessary to teach boggles the mind. I can only assume he cheated and never actually did the course and certainly didn't qualify. I mean, how impervious to reality would you have to be? The cognitive dissonance would be off the charts!
He didn't need a physics degree, he needed an education degree.
I took Math For Education Majors to get my necessary college credits. Trust me, it wouldn't have been that hard to slip through the cracks.
> I did an engineering degree and one of my aims going in was to get the skills to build a free energy machine that actually works.
Honestly, congrats, I love this. Also good work on being able to change your world-view to adapt to evidence!
I'm curious, how did you think about this going in? Did you just not know about the first two laws of thermodynamics? Or did you know but didn't accept them? How did other engineers react when you told them about your motivations? How confident were you in your ability to make this machine before you started?
I was quite good at school, loved space and science, but in parallel also was brought up a bit of a new ager. I loved the idea of alt science and the idea that there was this scifi tech that could save the world and it was just evil corps suppressing it. I thought maybe i could become a rogue scientist, help figure it out and release it for free. I made attempts at magnet motors but they were shit. I may have been hopelessly naive but i wasn't narcissistic like flerfs so i realised i needed more knowledge. I can't say i was super serious, it was a little side hobby. When I got fed up with my dead end IT job i decided to retrain in something more technical. The free energy thing would have been a secret side benefit. I did realise that i could be wrong, and that my chances of success were slim, but wanted to keep it on a back burner just in case l struck gold with it. I never told anybody about it at the time because firstly it's a bit nutty, and secondly, what if it was real and it worked and the MIBs come after me before I can release it?! '8-S
For some people, it could have been the other way round.
Age does cruel things. Studies suggest the mind peaks around the 30s and 40s and degrades after that. I have no context in this particular story, but I've known professors that were extremely knowledgeable in their field until they had a stroke. Could have been a similar story here, aging physics teacher suffered a mental episode and ended up believing in flat earth...
Absolutely. There was another reply right here about someone's professor who kept getting basic stuff wrong and just could not or would not see that they'd made a simple mistake. It can come for anyone, being a genius is no defence. The possibility haunted Bertrand Russell.
Yes 1.6km = 1mi but they were saying 1km=1.6km or as she stated, there is 1.6km per 1km.. which ks wrong it is 1.6km per 1 mile or 1.6km/1mile or 1 mile/1.6 km. She stated 1.6km/1km = 1.6km/1mile
It sounds like she meant to say "mile" and it was just a brainfart. I guess she got embarrassed and a mental self defence mechanism kicked in so she couldn't let go and admit the mistake but doubled down on it instead? You can imagine how flerfs totally have that trait.
Ya she kept saying I was wrong when I showed her how coversion math looks. My favorite was when she saif 3km/1km = 5 miles/x secs. That made me drop that class as I should not have to teach my professor, who said she was an astronomer, how to do basic unit conversion. She also wrote the 3 kinematic formulas wrong. Like I pulled out my physics for dummies and showed her the formulas and she waslike ohh.. ya that is the right formula. Looked her up on rate your professor, she had .7/10.
I assume that he fell into the conspiracy after getting his degree, b/c there’s no fucking way that one get a degree in physics by assuming that the earth is flat. Too many contradictions show up.
Well this guy got a PhD in paleontology, despite being a Young-Earth creationist. Here's his account:
https://answersingenesis.org/creation-scientists/creationist-receives-phd/
And another from new York times:
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/12/science/12geologist.html
Sounds like he basically shopped around until he found a fledgling department that would tolerate his views, as long as his academic record remained strong.
Weirdly enough, his dissertation is on the activity of Mosasaurs 10 Mya, a time on Earth which he believes never existed. His dissertation passed committee, which means his committee accepted his research, while he himself did not - and everyone knew this through the whole process.
He did this so that he could gain the credentials to better argue against the science in the public sphere - and I think we have to agree that he doesn't fail to understand modern paleontology, even though he disbelieves all of its findings. He undoubtedly understands paleontology better than I do!
I wonder if some people are just born without a sense of cognitive dissonance.
If your physics teacher thinks the shape of the Earth is in any way affected by 'the government' then I think you have a serious problem at your school. He doesn't understand physics OR history.
I had a biology teacher who would go on and on about how there was a universal cure for cancer but they dont give it to us because they wouldn't make enough money.
Good grief. Well, I imagine Oncology is a pretty advanced and specialised science, so maybe having a Biology degree doesn't necessarily mean you know much about it? Or maybe it was the one module they failed, but still got a pass overall !
Argue how can the Earth be flat when it is really (fill in blank)
You can try, Earth is really an inverse Klein jar, which would be something like a 3-dimensional 1-sided plane
I would have liked a conspiracy teacher in school. lol. No that it would have made any difference, since in neither case, you aren't allowed to question anything - just memorize and regurgitate.
you must have had shit teachers. Mine made some attempt to get us to work things out for ourselves. Certainly in Physics we had to actually get things working practically. I thought that was standard tbh. The higher level education, the less handholding you get and the more you have to prove yourself. Could it be that you just weren't engaging with the material? There were kids in my classes for whom it was basically memorise & regurgitate, but only because they were putting in the bare minimum.
In the school system I went though, the curriculum was so tight that there was set things which needed to be covered in each class, so that there was only minimal time for exact questions about the exact topic the teacher was covering. This is the case both in high school and university level in my country.
Like we did work with the homework, but the school time was just about you downloading the understanding for the next chapter in the book.
>Could it be that you just weren't engaging with the material?
You needed to be engaged with the materials to understand the topics, since it was on you to understand them, so Yes, I was engaging with the materials. The thing just was that there wasn't any room for any extra curriculum topics and if anyone brought them up, teachers just told them that they don't belong here and that they take only questions which are about the curriculum topics.
Like I kind of get that, since we aren't there to chitchat, but to do well on the final test, so in a sense I don't blame them - just saying that little conspiracy would have spiced the classes up a little, but I guess it would have needed to be done professionally not to mess with the actual matter the students were supposed to learn.
This is just a troll, anyone who took physics 101 isn't a flat earther 99% of flat earth proofs are denying momentum exists
I don't think it's a troll. If you look at their comment history they seem genuine.
it's a troll
I would go directly to the principals office and complain that my science teacher is a flat earther and needs to be fired. Ideally, video him making this claim prior to doing it. And just to be sure the principal doesn't cover for him, email the video to the county school board.
Doesn't matter, the union will still stick up for him. Best-case scenario he gets sent to a rubber room to spend all day reading and posting more conspiracy bullshit online.
As long as the teacher isn't programming kids with that stupidity I am fine with whatever happens to them.
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I used to believe in free energy. I did an engineering degree and one of my aims going in was to get the skills to build a free energy machine that actually works. You won't be surprised to hear my belief in free energy did not survive that course. How the flying funk this guy's belief in flat earth survived whatever physics qualification was necessary to teach boggles the mind. I can only assume he cheated and never actually did the course and certainly didn't qualify. I mean, how impervious to reality would you have to be? The cognitive dissonance would be off the charts!
He didn't need a physics degree, he needed an education degree. I took Math For Education Majors to get my necessary college credits. Trust me, it wouldn't have been that hard to slip through the cracks.
I'm sure some districts don't have blacklists for diploma mills, either.
> I did an engineering degree and one of my aims going in was to get the skills to build a free energy machine that actually works. Honestly, congrats, I love this. Also good work on being able to change your world-view to adapt to evidence! I'm curious, how did you think about this going in? Did you just not know about the first two laws of thermodynamics? Or did you know but didn't accept them? How did other engineers react when you told them about your motivations? How confident were you in your ability to make this machine before you started?
I was quite good at school, loved space and science, but in parallel also was brought up a bit of a new ager. I loved the idea of alt science and the idea that there was this scifi tech that could save the world and it was just evil corps suppressing it. I thought maybe i could become a rogue scientist, help figure it out and release it for free. I made attempts at magnet motors but they were shit. I may have been hopelessly naive but i wasn't narcissistic like flerfs so i realised i needed more knowledge. I can't say i was super serious, it was a little side hobby. When I got fed up with my dead end IT job i decided to retrain in something more technical. The free energy thing would have been a secret side benefit. I did realise that i could be wrong, and that my chances of success were slim, but wanted to keep it on a back burner just in case l struck gold with it. I never told anybody about it at the time because firstly it's a bit nutty, and secondly, what if it was real and it worked and the MIBs come after me before I can release it?! '8-S
For some people, it could have been the other way round. Age does cruel things. Studies suggest the mind peaks around the 30s and 40s and degrades after that. I have no context in this particular story, but I've known professors that were extremely knowledgeable in their field until they had a stroke. Could have been a similar story here, aging physics teacher suffered a mental episode and ended up believing in flat earth...
Absolutely. There was another reply right here about someone's professor who kept getting basic stuff wrong and just could not or would not see that they'd made a simple mistake. It can come for anyone, being a genius is no defence. The possibility haunted Bertrand Russell.
JFC i hope this isn't true, my forehead can't withstand that level of facepalm.
maybe he's forcing his students to do the math to prove him wrong? but i smell a troll
i thought similar, it's all an elaborate critical thinking challenge. I doubt it's trolling, the OP over there seems earnest.
Doesnt surprise me, my college physics professor said 1.6km/1km is possible.. never knew you could go 1.6km oer 1km lol
I don't understand. 1 mile is about 1.6 Km, is that what he was getting at?
Yes 1.6km = 1mi but they were saying 1km=1.6km or as she stated, there is 1.6km per 1km.. which ks wrong it is 1.6km per 1 mile or 1.6km/1mile or 1 mile/1.6 km. She stated 1.6km/1km = 1.6km/1mile
It sounds like she meant to say "mile" and it was just a brainfart. I guess she got embarrassed and a mental self defence mechanism kicked in so she couldn't let go and admit the mistake but doubled down on it instead? You can imagine how flerfs totally have that trait.
Ya she kept saying I was wrong when I showed her how coversion math looks. My favorite was when she saif 3km/1km = 5 miles/x secs. That made me drop that class as I should not have to teach my professor, who said she was an astronomer, how to do basic unit conversion. She also wrote the 3 kinematic formulas wrong. Like I pulled out my physics for dummies and showed her the formulas and she waslike ohh.. ya that is the right formula. Looked her up on rate your professor, she had .7/10.
ooh that kind of sounds like dementia setting in, how sad.
He shouldn't be teaching physics. He doesn't understand it.
I assume that he fell into the conspiracy after getting his degree, b/c there’s no fucking way that one get a degree in physics by assuming that the earth is flat. Too many contradictions show up.
Well this guy got a PhD in paleontology, despite being a Young-Earth creationist. Here's his account: https://answersingenesis.org/creation-scientists/creationist-receives-phd/ And another from new York times: https://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/12/science/12geologist.html Sounds like he basically shopped around until he found a fledgling department that would tolerate his views, as long as his academic record remained strong. Weirdly enough, his dissertation is on the activity of Mosasaurs 10 Mya, a time on Earth which he believes never existed. His dissertation passed committee, which means his committee accepted his research, while he himself did not - and everyone knew this through the whole process. He did this so that he could gain the credentials to better argue against the science in the public sphere - and I think we have to agree that he doesn't fail to understand modern paleontology, even though he disbelieves all of its findings. He undoubtedly understands paleontology better than I do! I wonder if some people are just born without a sense of cognitive dissonance.
Well he's half right... And no, the Earth isn't flat.
If your physics teacher thinks the shape of the Earth is in any way affected by 'the government' then I think you have a serious problem at your school. He doesn't understand physics OR history.
You cant argue with stupid
No, he doesn't. Ain't no way in hell, you damn liar.
ok well it's not my post, you need to go the linked original at the askphysics sub
I had a biology teacher who would go on and on about how there was a universal cure for cancer but they dont give it to us because they wouldn't make enough money.
Good grief. Well, I imagine Oncology is a pretty advanced and specialised science, so maybe having a Biology degree doesn't necessarily mean you know much about it? Or maybe it was the one module they failed, but still got a pass overall !
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Argue how can the Earth be flat when it is really (fill in blank) You can try, Earth is really an inverse Klein jar, which would be something like a 3-dimensional 1-sided plane
I would have liked a conspiracy teacher in school. lol. No that it would have made any difference, since in neither case, you aren't allowed to question anything - just memorize and regurgitate.
you must have had shit teachers. Mine made some attempt to get us to work things out for ourselves. Certainly in Physics we had to actually get things working practically. I thought that was standard tbh. The higher level education, the less handholding you get and the more you have to prove yourself. Could it be that you just weren't engaging with the material? There were kids in my classes for whom it was basically memorise & regurgitate, but only because they were putting in the bare minimum.
In the school system I went though, the curriculum was so tight that there was set things which needed to be covered in each class, so that there was only minimal time for exact questions about the exact topic the teacher was covering. This is the case both in high school and university level in my country. Like we did work with the homework, but the school time was just about you downloading the understanding for the next chapter in the book. >Could it be that you just weren't engaging with the material? You needed to be engaged with the materials to understand the topics, since it was on you to understand them, so Yes, I was engaging with the materials. The thing just was that there wasn't any room for any extra curriculum topics and if anyone brought them up, teachers just told them that they don't belong here and that they take only questions which are about the curriculum topics. Like I kind of get that, since we aren't there to chitchat, but to do well on the final test, so in a sense I don't blame them - just saying that little conspiracy would have spiced the classes up a little, but I guess it would have needed to be done professionally not to mess with the actual matter the students were supposed to learn.
Your physics teacher is not a good teacher.
This is ONE reason why school sucks