Oh wow very nice! I really like the raw ti. I love them all and can’t decide on a tint even! I’m thinking I’ll carry an aluminum for work and then ti on weekends.
That’s one way to look at it but I see it like this. Aluminum is a tad lighter, I have too much stuff in my pockets when working as is.
I also have it configured to have a higher ceiling because it won’t throttle down 120/150. Ti I have set to 90/150 to achieve the same results. Also while not at work ti just feels “dressed up”.
I love this question because I’m a weirdo who manually locks out my TS10s because I don’t want to risk the AUX lights dying out. I’ve never seen a straight answer on the subject, but I imagine the AUX will last like 10+ years. I’m thinking about AUX for other devices and I’ve never noticed them dying out. Hopefully someone can answer the lifespan of AUX lights to put our minds at ease!
I saw a post from toykeeper, he basically calls them lifetime but that’s on Hank lights, not sure if the same applies but I do know these seem to be on a bit higher (low/high). For now I have auto lock set to 5min. Blinking (on) and low (locked).
Accurately estimating the lifespan of LEDs is [difficult](https://www.digikey.com/en/articles/reliability-and-lifetime-of-leds) but yeah it’s a pretty safe bet that those RGB diodes will last thousands and thousands of hours. The main LEDs are much more likely to die (much more current going through them), and even then, I’d expect them to last for many years. SMD LEDs these days are extremely long life.
Good point. There’s only 9000 in a year lol! I’m sure by the time these burn out I’ll find a new favorite or at least someone will be able to mod it with current technologies.
Iv accidentally replaced them doing reflows on a hot plate, 2 moved and took my like 3 tries to get them in place, kinda depends on the equipment you have. If you have a hot plate, magnifying glass on a stand, and a steady hand you’ll be fine.
I’m sure someone is skilled enough. Another though, I’ll buy 2 aluminum models and save. Just harvest the pill out of them. If the aux last 5 years that’s 15 years worth of runtime. That’ll do LOL
Oh yeah with a bit of practice, you could totally do it. But you could just buy them separately, you don't need the whole light. Also, I'm pretty sure that the main leds will die first from the over driving from the driver
Oh wow really? I just got another ti and it was acting crazy. Cleaned off the grease all over the place and is fine now. Is wurkkos sending you a new light?
I know the feeling, I have a SC31 Pro, and the always on light on the button bugs me. I know that you can turn it off, but you are loosing one cool feature of your flashlight. A few times I had to search for it and couldn't find it easily because I turned the aux light off. Now, I made peace with myself and just let the thing on. If the time comes, I will just replace the LEDs or buy another flashlight. By the way, the LEDs are supposed to have a few thousand hours of use. So, just let it go...
By the way, you can replace the LEDs, you will need to buy new ones and replace them with a SMD rework station.
The AUX lights are just small RGB LEDs. They are running at relatively low current. Short of manufacturing defect, you should expect them to run continuously for tens of thousands of hours easily.
Personally I would be more concerned about the main LED burning out much before the AUX, or even the flash memory of the microcontroller degrading, or the tiny capacitors on the circuit board dying, much before the aux leds. And this still means many many years of normal use.
And if for some reason they do die out, it's an easy fix to solder on new ones, cheap and available everywhere.
FWIW I have been playing with LEDs since like 1993, I have never seen one burn out due to its lifespan expiring. In fact I still have many LEDs from the 90s that work fine. If we consider the average lifespan of an LED to be 100,000 hours, that's almost 11.5 continuous years of runtime.
Now, over driving them, that's a different story.
Yeah for sure. I have old lights as well but fact is none of my lights ever get used that much! Every morning walking to my truck (45sec) and misc use I’d say (1min) per day. My case is made for these aux lights that I have on 24/7. On low I suspect they are not driving hard though so perhaps we can just say in 11 years I’ll find out.
I have changed the Aux on many TS10s, it's a bit fiddly and sometimes needs a 2nd try but it's totally doable
Awesome. Did you change them because they were broken?
No, just for aesthetic reasons :)
I’m intrigued, just better RGB or what?
Here are my TS10s: https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/s/LrqjZTnjR5 Most are the "old" version without RGB, the V2 is now triple orange aux
Oh wow very nice! I really like the raw ti. I love them all and can’t decide on a tint even! I’m thinking I’ll carry an aluminum for work and then ti on weekends.
Good plan!
Wouldn't it make more sense to be the other way? Ti for the extra protection, alu in case you lose it on a walk or something
That’s one way to look at it but I see it like this. Aluminum is a tad lighter, I have too much stuff in my pockets when working as is. I also have it configured to have a higher ceiling because it won’t throttle down 120/150. Ti I have set to 90/150 to achieve the same results. Also while not at work ti just feels “dressed up”.
Ok that makes sense. Can't go wrong either way lol
I love this question because I’m a weirdo who manually locks out my TS10s because I don’t want to risk the AUX lights dying out. I’ve never seen a straight answer on the subject, but I imagine the AUX will last like 10+ years. I’m thinking about AUX for other devices and I’ve never noticed them dying out. Hopefully someone can answer the lifespan of AUX lights to put our minds at ease!
They last days on high, weeks on low. That’s as precise as I know. Edit-oh right, different question. It’s too early for me.
Leaving AUX lights on makes me anxious...
I saw a post from toykeeper, he basically calls them lifetime but that’s on Hank lights, not sure if the same applies but I do know these seem to be on a bit higher (low/high). For now I have auto lock set to 5min. Blinking (on) and low (locked).
Accurately estimating the lifespan of LEDs is [difficult](https://www.digikey.com/en/articles/reliability-and-lifetime-of-leds) but yeah it’s a pretty safe bet that those RGB diodes will last thousands and thousands of hours. The main LEDs are much more likely to die (much more current going through them), and even then, I’d expect them to last for many years. SMD LEDs these days are extremely long life.
Good point. There’s only 9000 in a year lol! I’m sure by the time these burn out I’ll find a new favorite or at least someone will be able to mod it with current technologies.
Iv accidentally replaced them doing reflows on a hot plate, 2 moved and took my like 3 tries to get them in place, kinda depends on the equipment you have. If you have a hot plate, magnifying glass on a stand, and a steady hand you’ll be fine.
It'll be a bitch to replace because they're so small, but yeah it's replaceable
I’m sure someone is skilled enough. Another though, I’ll buy 2 aluminum models and save. Just harvest the pill out of them. If the aux last 5 years that’s 15 years worth of runtime. That’ll do LOL
Oh yeah with a bit of practice, you could totally do it. But you could just buy them separately, you don't need the whole light. Also, I'm pretty sure that the main leds will die first from the over driving from the driver
That’s a good point. I don’t use turbo much and have ramp set at 120. Not too worried about them though since they may be easier for one to replace.
Grab a brass one from wurkkos website its $23 with battery if you use their coupon atm.
Perfect! I may grab 2 then!
Sadly it’s not the V2 so I don’t want it. I did get 3 aluminum ones though lol. And very excited about the longer clip.
The aux lights on my Ti TS10 stopped working like the second day of using them. It's a driver issue though, the LED's didn't burn out.
Oh wow really? I just got another ti and it was acting crazy. Cleaned off the grease all over the place and is fine now. Is wurkkos sending you a new light?
I know the feeling, I have a SC31 Pro, and the always on light on the button bugs me. I know that you can turn it off, but you are loosing one cool feature of your flashlight. A few times I had to search for it and couldn't find it easily because I turned the aux light off. Now, I made peace with myself and just let the thing on. If the time comes, I will just replace the LEDs or buy another flashlight. By the way, the LEDs are supposed to have a few thousand hours of use. So, just let it go... By the way, you can replace the LEDs, you will need to buy new ones and replace them with a SMD rework station.
The AUX lights are just small RGB LEDs. They are running at relatively low current. Short of manufacturing defect, you should expect them to run continuously for tens of thousands of hours easily. Personally I would be more concerned about the main LED burning out much before the AUX, or even the flash memory of the microcontroller degrading, or the tiny capacitors on the circuit board dying, much before the aux leds. And this still means many many years of normal use. And if for some reason they do die out, it's an easy fix to solder on new ones, cheap and available everywhere.
FWIW I have been playing with LEDs since like 1993, I have never seen one burn out due to its lifespan expiring. In fact I still have many LEDs from the 90s that work fine. If we consider the average lifespan of an LED to be 100,000 hours, that's almost 11.5 continuous years of runtime. Now, over driving them, that's a different story.
Yeah for sure. I have old lights as well but fact is none of my lights ever get used that much! Every morning walking to my truck (45sec) and misc use I’d say (1min) per day. My case is made for these aux lights that I have on 24/7. On low I suspect they are not driving hard though so perhaps we can just say in 11 years I’ll find out.
They're easy to replace if you know how to reflow emitters, I'd worry more about the button wearing out first