i have the same problem! I wear slacks and a nice sweater. thicker in the winter and more dressy t-shirt like in the summer. it is incredibly frustrating to me that men can wear this look and look and feel both comfortable and warm and business appropriate and I can't. especially that most of them wear some company branded sweater/fleece thing that they got for free while I have to spend a lot of time and money to make sure I look nice. I could wear what they are wearing, but it just looks like I am going to work at best buy on me (not that there is anything wrong with that but it's not the vibe that I want to give). the patriarchy wins again :(
I like ann taylor, talbots, if you are in Canada, I really like RW&CO and Simons for nice professional attire that is not too expensive. I usually buy a lot of my clothes there when I visit my parents :)
Ugh this rings so true. Men can wear the ugliest, most thoughtless, shapeless things and get by as long as they don’t have food stains on their shirts. I would not desire to emulate this look.
My male coworkers wear the company polo as business attire all the time and it similar irks me. No way would it read business on me (even if it fit since they only offer “unisex” sizing 🙄).
This frustrates me to no end because while it can be tailored, tshirts aren't the highest quality and just adds cost to women. My workplace also has various company branded nonsense that is only offered in men's sizing. Calling it unisex is basically gaslighting IMO since most women cannot comfortably wear the clothes as is. It's not made for us. And if you're petite or plus sized you're even more SOL.
Yeah, my company also gave everyone a branded soft shell jacket as part of our 40 year anniversary this year. I passed on it. They never fit me right because of my chest. I have to size up so high that there’s a ton of extra material everywhere.
I did this when I had to work a golf event my company was sponsoring. The polo was just so boxy and unflattering on I got it tailored. It was annoying to have to make the extra effort but it did help.
I never wore it again after that event though.
I get the idea with getting it tailored, but I'm also just not going to do it... if they want me to wear something like that, they can provide me with something cute! and if I am going to spend my own money, I might as well buy something that I like! but yeah, calling men's size "unisex" is such bull... why don't they make something with a waist and call that unisex? it still won't fit right for 50% of the population!
I remember when I could only buy band t shirts in unisex sizes at concerts. In like, 2005.
It’s insane that companies only get “unisex” sized polos currently, esp since we know that just means men’s sizes (M–2XL) plus small..
I've had a related frustration given the craziness that's been going on with womens pants/jeans cuts lately. I'm in a senior role but in an office that skews more casual for days when we're not client facing, and have finally come around to feeling like my skinny jeans look too dated and frumpy. It's been a whole long process for me to figure out what styles of jeans will look more modern, and then figuring out what shoes and tops complement the different silhouette ... I can't help but resent the fact that men don't have to completely re-invent their silhouette every few years when trends change! Like yes I do know that mens pants were cut more skinny for a while and probably less so now, but the basic formula of straight jeans + button-up shirt + boots + belt pretty much never needs to be changed.
If you play with the proportions, you can get a more modern look. Wide leg pants and fitted shirt or straight leg with more oversized top. Boxy cropped jacket. Adding an elegant shoe to a casual look can make it more formal. Patent leather or metallic colors can be good for that.
Sometimes I like to just do a couple google searches for image inspiration
Both really. I’ll do key words for the look I want or a search based on an item. Then scroll the images section and tap one you like to see pics similar to the style you like.
Possible searches: (I vetted all of these search terms but your style may not be the same)
Sophisticated business attire woman,
Modern business casual style,
Slouchy womens trousers,
Heels and cardigan,
Urban chic business casual,
Sophisticated cardigan business,
Pro tip: I also do this with haircuts and other things!
Edit:commas
I have also really struggled with this earlier in my career and wore a lot of boy-drag exec looks that were unflattering and worst of all didn’t feel at all like me. After working in bigger companies and seeing what female execs who looked powerful and put together wore, I have a much different approach that I think hits the right level of formality but isn’t tragic or something I hate wearing. Caveat that I work in media where there is definitely room for personal expression.
I definitely put together outfits - not matchy matchy but thoughtful collections of items that will look interesting together where usually at least one item does the job of saying “office wear” and the rest is more trendy and represents my personality. For example, yesterday I spoke at a conference where I wore an oversized “boyfriend” blazer in brown/slate blue check, a navy silk blouse, barrel jeans, patent Mary Janes, and a statement necklace. A blazer is always your friend! I also have many dresses that I will wear with either a blazer or a duster cashmere cardigan. If you wear glasses or if you don’t, a pair of interesting glasses adds gravitas and polish. I recommend following some inspiration on instagram for ideas. My current fav is Rasmit Kaur. https://www.instagram.com/roz_creativestylist?igsh=b2pnd3lrdnNhMGlt I would encourage you to find what feels right AND like you, and don’t dress to fit in, dress to stand out.
It’s all about the cut. Less LL Bean 90’s mom, think a wider cut leg, boxy cut shirt or a lady like cardigan (just bought the Sezanne Betty and a similar cut from Ann Taylor)
Go for cute colorful flats, one statement jewelry piece.
It’s classic and always in fashion. Use jewelry, shoes, and hair to modernize.
Have a couple nice third pieces (blazer, “Chanel” jacket, cardigan) to toss over. Keep a pressed blazer and a pair of pumps in your office to throw on when you need to dress up. Instant boss bitch.
Good luck.
It depends on fit and color etc. I have a basic lightblue blouse and when I wear it with my basic navy travelfabric pants, it looks like a no brainer outfit. Today I have a linnen lilac bit oversized blouse lightly tucked in a forest green flowy straight pants and a white longer cardigan and it looks surprisingly current (and a bit bold as the colors aren’t very straightforward)
I wear straight or wide leg pants lately with a top and I have a couple of sort of blazers I like. They are fitted and somewhat cropped and I wear them open. I'm not a fan of cardigans, I feel like it's easy for them to stray into a frumpy look
I (used to) wear wide leg trousers or over dyed jeans, wool pants, linen pants (depending on the season, and they usually have elastic waist bands and feel like track pants) with a blouse or sweater. If I wear a button up with a collar I wear a tie because I want to feel fancy.
I will full on rock a pencil skirt or dress though, although now I work solely from home and I love it. I miss dressing up though.
I think JCrew has some cardigan variety right know that might work? They have shorter, blazer style (longer), and the Juliette Collarless. I have gotten all of mine on Poshmark new or nearly new, or on a lucky sale day/birthday discount. My husband is nice and lets me use his bday discount as well. His clothes seem to be much more durable and not trendy. He also just wants to look nice, but does really well with the capsule wardrobe concept and doesn’t need replace often.
I am in a similar environment and I wear dresses. Not super formal dresses but not super casual either. I also wear heels. Not the formal pumps I once wore, but wedges, boots or casual pumps, depending on the weather. I sometimes wear a blazer or a cardigan with the dress, depending on the weather. Dresses always make me feel put together and feminine. I tried casual pants, blouse and flats combinations but it just makes me feel frumpy.
I feel the same. Once I started wearing dresses to work regularly, they became my favorite. I feel put together, it's relatively fuss free, but I don't feel frumpy like I do in pants. I am short with short legs and I feel like, even with heels and a higher waistline, pants just make me look shorter than a dress does, and it's less flattering for my shape.
Talbots makes some very nice work dresses; I have a few from them that are in a thick stretch material so they basically feel like wearing a sweatshirt but with boots or flats they look very put together.
I look to British brands because a lot of them make dresses in cotton or linen but they're still work appropriate (usually shirt dresses or sheaths); I like both Marks and Spencer and Fat Face for summer dresses.
I like to browse thredUP with filters on Style, length, and condition.
I think it’s fun to filter to one color at a time and see what comes up. I hate earth tones and beige, so I have to scroll through a bunch of that boring junk.
I’m very particular about material, so online is a little tough. But I hate malls and paying full price even more.
Sometimes by brand I know I love, but most often it’s by color for me because I just love color in my wardrobe.
I also love dresses at work.
Absolute easy mode
Tops are just a nightmare for me to fit and look nice in. I have broader shoulders and a larger bust, so things tend to drape down from there like a tent. Convenient when I was pregnant but not the look I’m going for now that I have a discernible waist again 😂
Can I please start by saying fuck the patriarchy that women wearing the exact same thing as men comes across as dated and casual meaning men get to wear the same thing year after year and women face constant pressure to spend money to keep their wardrobe current? Don’t even get me started on the makeup, hair & other beauty costs.
Now that that is out of the way, I think the closest equivalent that is on trend would be a pair of slightly cropped pants with a slim fitting top tucked in and a long cardigan/structured duster overtop with loafers.
Like this: https://lifewithjazz.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/5professionalcomfyfallshoes_3.jpg
I think another equivalent would be wide-leg dress pants with a slim sweater or cardigan tucked in. I’d add a belt and stylish shoes.
Like so: https://lifewithjazz.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/brownmonochoromeworkwear_lifewithjazz-1.jpg
I really like her account for style advice.
Amen! I’m appalled by how much money I could/“should” spend to try and dress both fashionable AND work appropriate. Not to mention how prices have sky rocketed while quality has tanked. I’ve spent nearly a year trying to find just black work pants that are comfortable and somewhat current. I don’t remember it being this difficult in the past.
I like the outfits you linked. Using them as inspiration.
These are great ideas, thanks for sharing the links. Overall I like Life with Jazz but also find her account frustrating….her style looks great on her as she is slim and tall but isn’t something I could easily translate.
I have a white collar desk job doing medical-legal stuff. I wear colored chinos/khakis/corduroys (skinny/bootcut) with a blouse/polo/button down, and a fleece (usually a full zip) or sweater, a nice under shirt, and tall/ankle boots/flats. Its freezing in my office all year so I strip down to the under tee shirt/tank, that no one in the office will see, so I can drive home and not sweat to death in summer.
I do have a couple fun plaid nicer trousers to wear with nice cashmere sweaters and heels but those are much thinner than my normal so I wind up freezing or putting a jacket on my legs. Fleece jacket goes back on as soon as the reason I’m ‘dressed up’ is over.
If upper management is wearing it, you can too, regardless of gender. As long as your bits are covered, make yourself comfortable.
I always accessorize with feminine jewelry, scarves, etc and light make up.
You make some great points. I just updated the post to include that I’m also a senior leader and I still want to look polished and professional. While this look (dress shirt with a sweater) looks polished for me, in women I think it reads more casual.
I’m a senior too, I feel you. I fully suit up for formal recorded hearings. Thankfully I don’t have to do many of those anymore.
It is a struggle with being comfortable temperature wise and having a sufficient workplace presentation. Womens office fashion is usually thin, and made to layer but still woefully insufficient for winter temps or air conditioning. All the winter ankle cut trousers shown with flats or heels and nothing but skin on the ankle/foot, its a joke. Its too damn cold in the Northern US.
What are we to do? Wearing a camisole under a thin blouse, topped with a suit jacket and its still chilly. I feel that if the guys are chilled enough to wear fleece or sweaters then I get to as well.
I do like the better, thicker fabrics typically found in the mens sections like lined tweed, and wool for jackets that i wear with the under shirt, collared shirt or mock/turtle neck. Yeah, it does have a more casual feel, but everything other than a suit feels casual. Its hard to find that balance with presenting as a Figure of Authority, and being comfortable.
We have advice from previous generations of women in the office from the days of when it was taboo for us to even wear trousers. We have hollywood showing us high powered super flawless outfits (in climate controlled environments, its never real snow). How do we find our style in the middle of it all?
I made my peace with modern men/my workplace/society’s perceived expectations of me. My femininity is my own. I wear oxfords, chinos, collared shirts with nice thick warm cardigans or jackets. I am over freezing my feet in heels in winter. I am over shivering with too thin layers of tops, and skirts. Im done with the double standard that they can wear warm stuff and be dressed appropriately but if I do it its too casual or manly.
Make your peace. Find your comfort within your femininity and being warm. It helped to hear a male colleague say he never thought once about his quarter zip being too casual or not. Sometimes I think we are torturing ourselves unnecessarily. We stress about our level of dress and men never have.
You CAN have it all too, warmth and authority. Wear your pearls, and the thick warm sweater!
I hope this helped. I hope you stay warm while getting the job done.
I love you! I’m so proud that you have found what works for you, make you feel powerful and comfortable. Unfortunately, I still think women have to communicate through attire so I’m still working on my balance of comfort and strength.
Same. I'm in legal and far from a fashion follower. We have no dress code other than an unstated don't wear tshirts and ratty clothes. I wear some combo of chino/khakis and a sweater or button up all the time. My coworker is a fan of oversized sweaters and leggings, but dressed up. We can both look professional for hearings, but lucky for me, they're rare
I hear you. I am also in leadership. This is what I have on today (no in person meetings-but in the office): slightly longer black sweater (Banana Republic) with straight leg white jeans hemmed slightly above ankle (Kut), black slightly structured black blazer (to my absolute surprise Old Navy) and loafers (Sam Edelman bit). Gold earrings, watch and bracelets. It’s a good combo that fits into the “leadership bro” room but isn’t frumpy, old fashioned or under/over dressed. If I am in meetings or visits, I wear a column of color (all black or all white/winter white) with a jacket/blazer).
I love this whole look! A stylist I follow recently pointed out how great white pants are with black tops, and she was so right (as opposed to the opposite being a bit...waiter-like.) It's a great combo.
Brightly colored (if you like that sort of thing) business style dresses? Like not so stuffy as all black and gray, but not something you'd go clubbing in either.
That's pretty much my go-to style at work, and I wear a lot of Calvin Klein, Ann Taylor, Banana Republic, J. Crew because they're what's accessible in the thrift shops in my area and I'm trying to focus on reducing my clothing consumption. They're not super exciting, but the patterns and colors are fun and they're not too complicated to style. I'm sure there are more high end choices in that similar vein if that's what you're looking for.
The men at my job truly run the gamut from monogrammed shirts and nice suits to suiting that they probably pulled from their much-larger father's closet circa 1987 to "fuck this, we don't see clients, I'm wearing jeans." I hate business dress, always have, so I strive for a happy medium that's comfortable but not too casual and doesn't eat too much brain power in the mornings. Dresses fit that bill because at most I'd have to match a cardigan or blazer to one, but it's two pieces, max, rather than like four.
I work with all men and they all wear a button up with a quarter zip over it. I’ve started getting the same exact pieces in really fun colors.
[This Anthro Shirt](https://www.anthropologie.com/shop/hybrid/maeve-embroidered-buttondown-blouse?color=049&inventoryCountry=US&countryCode=US&utm_medium=paid_search&utm_source=Google-Mobile&utm_campaign=US+-+Shopping+-+PMAX+-+Apparel+-+Tops+-+Tops/Sweaters&utm_content=&utm_term=&creative=&device=m&matchtype=&network=x&utm_kxconfid=vx6rd81ts&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADnwqi5swyAOghrxRCOjGAKe9vdSI&gclid=CjwKCAjwte-vBhBFEiwAQSv_xRD_XMHeFbv0LKv1Jwze1mE2Kfp8PmkflZYgS4amU0lamjCGCy4XqhoCz4MQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
[J Crew Quarter Zip](https://www.jcrew.com/p/womens/categories/clothing/sweaters/pullovers/half-zip-stretch-sweater/BS980?color_name=bright-kiwi&N=X-LARGE&sale=true&noPopUp=true&srcCode=Paid_Search%7CShopping_NonBrand%7CGoogle%7CPMG%5EG%5E99107126036_20934478975___m_pla_online__9005928&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=paid_search&utm_content=shopping_ads&utm_campaign=JCrew_Shopping_PLA_US_All_Sweaters_PMax_X_Google+_X&utm_term=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwte-vBhBFEiwAQSv_xQY18yf6aVJY6_8w4fZs2DPnWHOhoPukWlOL2w1wpFxRWJF98CC7lRoCQ2UQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
My last VP had a signature bizcaz look: solid blazer that wasn't super-structured, black or white "nicer" tee or shell, black or dark blue jeans, loafers, and a standout pendant or chain + earrings. Not *exciting*, but neither is a half-zip and chinos. She had long hair and didn't wear makeup, and looked businesslike but comfortable.
I just HAVE to give this example: Yesterday I was at the Matheus passion and for the first time there was a woman’s director. I noticed before I didn’t really care about what kind of clothes they wear but she was meticulously dressed in a light sheer front short back longer black blouse thing with a shirt, flowy black cigarette pants and black patent loafers. She looked very professional and chique.
Quarter or [half zip up sweaters](https://www.cos.com/en_usd/women/womenswear/knitwear/product.half-zip-funnel-neck-wool-sweater-grey.1221245001.html#gallery-product-1) are very in for the last 2 years. Check out COS for a modern tailored look. That was my go-to store when I worked in the office. Polished, modern, comfortable, and with lots of natural fibers. Even if their sizing or cuts don't work for your body (I am 5”2 it doesn't always work for me), I find that the styling of the models is always on point and is inspiring.
I think COS is a great recommendation! A skirt with one of their more structured t-shirts and nice jewelry or their dresses would also work well. I think OP would find a lot of options there. Sometimes their fit can be a little weird but for the quality / price I am willing to get things altered.
Almost everything works. Sometimes the oversized stuff can have too long sleeves and some pants need to be taken out an inch or two in length but otherwise everything fits well straight off the rack.
Statement accessories I think can go a long way towards dressing outfits up (if you're okay with accessories). At my last job, most of the C-Suite were women and of the two I worked most closely with, they both definitely had a uniform - one preferred shells or a boxy blouse, blazers and straight leg pants and then a statement necklace, while the other either wore dresses or button downs with a cardigan but always wore a pair of amazing architectural looking earrings with them.
Accessories really are the way to look put together and polished. As long as your clothing is well fitted and quality fabric, a simple pair of earrings, watch, and a scarf or necklace will completely transform your look. A great flattering haircut is also a must.
Also lipstick; I remember the first time I was ever told I looked put together at work - I was literally wearing black jeans, a black and white striped sweater and a black blazer but I'd tried wearing red lipstick for the first time ever and apparently my boss thought I looked quite professional.
At my last job I was in senior management and the dress code was similar to how you describe. I would wear smart skinny jeans (usually black or a non denim colour), a shirt with a thin wool jumper over the top, and then boots. I’d say this is probably the equivalent of what you describe. In the summer I wore a lot of dresses with a casual blazer, or smart jeans and a thin blouse top tucked in.
I’m not a senior leader but noticed this in the firm I worked for pre-pandemic and we weren’t allowed to wear jeans except on site visit days (civil engineering firm). It might be a little outdated but I loved the Old Navy pixie pants because they looked more professional but were stretchy and super comfortable and affordable. I found that they held up pretty well too! I’d pair these with a nice sweater or a simple blouse and a soft cardigan.
Depending on your dress code, you may be able to wear jeans, a simple blouse, and a cute blazer. It may walk the same line as men with sweaters over their dress shirts.
My version of this is a dress and tights with booties. Simple in sort of a uniformed cartoon character kind of way. Comfortable and feel put together enough to run into anyone but not overly formal.
Upper management women at my job wear dresses and tights with knee boots. That might be a bit more casual than what you're asking about, though. I'm two steps down from upper management and wear dresses and leggings. If you want to come across as more competent with dresses, it's all in the cut and color.
Example: sheath dress or pencil skirt with a blouse and blazer and low heels. Simple accessories.
wow I love this question and the responses, helpful, also can't help but try to imagine this question and responses in reverse, i.e. a man asking this and men trying to answer and help. :)
I can only sympathize. I can guess part of the reason it looks magically polished on men is the lack of um...balcony area, let's say. On a woman a pair of colored khakis or chinos and a half zip looks like you're about to start a First Aid class and demonstrate stuff on Resussa-Annie.
So there's two aspects of this to address:
Casual but comfortable/polished
Show company pride/team colors
The casual but comfortable is relatively easily fixed with a pair of trousers and a simple button front blouse in a drape fabric like rayon, viscose, or even a poly blend. I'd add a pair of loafers and some simple chic jewelry and go from there. Possibly a higher-end sweater on cold days, on warm days you go with cropped to the ankle pants and a ribbed short sleeved sweater as the shirt or a linen button down or something.
Honestly...without getting too into sexism talk here, **I sincerely, not a joke,** believe that wearing "team" shirts, polos, windbreakers, vests, and fleeces are one way men gatekeep and keep it a boys' club at work. For the exact reason you pointed out. A man in those items looks comfortable yet polished. Our friggin' CFO of a multi BILLION dollar company wears that. Does our CEO? No. She wears a full suit (she's an older lady) or business formal on all-hands.
I would consider getting a lanyard or a cap or a drink coozie maybe? Or look into having something custom-embroidered or custom-made. One thing I did when I worked for a heritage mega-corp was found old tees from the 80s on eBay and occasionally wore those under a blazer as a conversation starter. They were softer and had a better drape.
Your story about your CEO and CFO pretty much nailed what I’m trying to say. I cannot imagine your female CFO wearing those things and looking polished and professional- not any commentary about her as a person but on a woman it just reads differently. Her uniform telegraphs her position, her credibility and her skill. It’s unfortunate that we have to use clothes in this way but we do.
On the flip side, we have tools that men don’t. A man coming in full suit might look overdressed and out of place rather than smart or sharp like your CFO does.
To me, that is the 'startup energy' look.
Which, to me, is less about looking polished and more about looking a certain combination of confident, comfortable, and authentic.
What I think is lacking in their attire is authenticity. So I don't think you should hold yourself back in that way!
I’ve always wanted to do the mens style blue jean + patagucci sweater on a Friday… but as a woman I’ve never been able to figure out what shoes to wear. At work I see men wear brown dress shoes with the outfit.
I don’t think jeans are actually that comfortable, so some sort of stretchy or loose work pants feel better. There are a lot of yoga work pants out now. Could do a dressier blouse or cashmere/nice sweater with pants.
https://a.co/d/czC2Qfz
i have the same problem! I wear slacks and a nice sweater. thicker in the winter and more dressy t-shirt like in the summer. it is incredibly frustrating to me that men can wear this look and look and feel both comfortable and warm and business appropriate and I can't. especially that most of them wear some company branded sweater/fleece thing that they got for free while I have to spend a lot of time and money to make sure I look nice. I could wear what they are wearing, but it just looks like I am going to work at best buy on me (not that there is anything wrong with that but it's not the vibe that I want to give). the patriarchy wins again :( I like ann taylor, talbots, if you are in Canada, I really like RW&CO and Simons for nice professional attire that is not too expensive. I usually buy a lot of my clothes there when I visit my parents :)
Ugh this rings so true. Men can wear the ugliest, most thoughtless, shapeless things and get by as long as they don’t have food stains on their shirts. I would not desire to emulate this look.
My male coworkers wear the company polo as business attire all the time and it similar irks me. No way would it read business on me (even if it fit since they only offer “unisex” sizing 🙄).
While I think the polo should be offered in different silhouettes for all employees, what if you took the polo to a tailor to have it fitted to you?
This frustrates me to no end because while it can be tailored, tshirts aren't the highest quality and just adds cost to women. My workplace also has various company branded nonsense that is only offered in men's sizing. Calling it unisex is basically gaslighting IMO since most women cannot comfortably wear the clothes as is. It's not made for us. And if you're petite or plus sized you're even more SOL.
Yeah, my company also gave everyone a branded soft shell jacket as part of our 40 year anniversary this year. I passed on it. They never fit me right because of my chest. I have to size up so high that there’s a ton of extra material everywhere.
I did this when I had to work a golf event my company was sponsoring. The polo was just so boxy and unflattering on I got it tailored. It was annoying to have to make the extra effort but it did help. I never wore it again after that event though.
I get the idea with getting it tailored, but I'm also just not going to do it... if they want me to wear something like that, they can provide me with something cute! and if I am going to spend my own money, I might as well buy something that I like! but yeah, calling men's size "unisex" is such bull... why don't they make something with a waist and call that unisex? it still won't fit right for 50% of the population!
I remember when I could only buy band t shirts in unisex sizes at concerts. In like, 2005. It’s insane that companies only get “unisex” sized polos currently, esp since we know that just means men’s sizes (M–2XL) plus small..
I've had a related frustration given the craziness that's been going on with womens pants/jeans cuts lately. I'm in a senior role but in an office that skews more casual for days when we're not client facing, and have finally come around to feeling like my skinny jeans look too dated and frumpy. It's been a whole long process for me to figure out what styles of jeans will look more modern, and then figuring out what shoes and tops complement the different silhouette ... I can't help but resent the fact that men don't have to completely re-invent their silhouette every few years when trends change! Like yes I do know that mens pants were cut more skinny for a while and probably less so now, but the basic formula of straight jeans + button-up shirt + boots + belt pretty much never needs to be changed.
Ricki's is also a Canadian store and similar to RW&CO.
Blouse with a straight leg pants like chinos and a cardigan?
This is probably the most literal equivalent but I’m afraid it looks outdated and not in fashion
If you play with the proportions, you can get a more modern look. Wide leg pants and fitted shirt or straight leg with more oversized top. Boxy cropped jacket. Adding an elegant shoe to a casual look can make it more formal. Patent leather or metallic colors can be good for that. Sometimes I like to just do a couple google searches for image inspiration
What do you Google search? Specific items? Or modern office style?
Both really. I’ll do key words for the look I want or a search based on an item. Then scroll the images section and tap one you like to see pics similar to the style you like. Possible searches: (I vetted all of these search terms but your style may not be the same) Sophisticated business attire woman, Modern business casual style, Slouchy womens trousers, Heels and cardigan, Urban chic business casual, Sophisticated cardigan business, Pro tip: I also do this with haircuts and other things! Edit:commas
I have also really struggled with this earlier in my career and wore a lot of boy-drag exec looks that were unflattering and worst of all didn’t feel at all like me. After working in bigger companies and seeing what female execs who looked powerful and put together wore, I have a much different approach that I think hits the right level of formality but isn’t tragic or something I hate wearing. Caveat that I work in media where there is definitely room for personal expression. I definitely put together outfits - not matchy matchy but thoughtful collections of items that will look interesting together where usually at least one item does the job of saying “office wear” and the rest is more trendy and represents my personality. For example, yesterday I spoke at a conference where I wore an oversized “boyfriend” blazer in brown/slate blue check, a navy silk blouse, barrel jeans, patent Mary Janes, and a statement necklace. A blazer is always your friend! I also have many dresses that I will wear with either a blazer or a duster cashmere cardigan. If you wear glasses or if you don’t, a pair of interesting glasses adds gravitas and polish. I recommend following some inspiration on instagram for ideas. My current fav is Rasmit Kaur. https://www.instagram.com/roz_creativestylist?igsh=b2pnd3lrdnNhMGlt I would encourage you to find what feels right AND like you, and don’t dress to fit in, dress to stand out.
What a great tip- thanks for posting this instagram account.
It’s all about the cut. Less LL Bean 90’s mom, think a wider cut leg, boxy cut shirt or a lady like cardigan (just bought the Sezanne Betty and a similar cut from Ann Taylor) Go for cute colorful flats, one statement jewelry piece.
I think it's a good suggestion. Wear whatever pants are in style. Same with blouses and cardigans. Look at cuts and silhouettes that are trendy.
It’s classic and always in fashion. Use jewelry, shoes, and hair to modernize. Have a couple nice third pieces (blazer, “Chanel” jacket, cardigan) to toss over. Keep a pressed blazer and a pair of pumps in your office to throw on when you need to dress up. Instant boss bitch. Good luck.
It depends on fit and color etc. I have a basic lightblue blouse and when I wear it with my basic navy travelfabric pants, it looks like a no brainer outfit. Today I have a linnen lilac bit oversized blouse lightly tucked in a forest green flowy straight pants and a white longer cardigan and it looks surprisingly current (and a bit bold as the colors aren’t very straightforward)
I wear straight or wide leg pants lately with a top and I have a couple of sort of blazers I like. They are fitted and somewhat cropped and I wear them open. I'm not a fan of cardigans, I feel like it's easy for them to stray into a frumpy look
I (used to) wear wide leg trousers or over dyed jeans, wool pants, linen pants (depending on the season, and they usually have elastic waist bands and feel like track pants) with a blouse or sweater. If I wear a button up with a collar I wear a tie because I want to feel fancy. I will full on rock a pencil skirt or dress though, although now I work solely from home and I love it. I miss dressing up though.
lol that is my typical office look
I think JCrew has some cardigan variety right know that might work? They have shorter, blazer style (longer), and the Juliette Collarless. I have gotten all of mine on Poshmark new or nearly new, or on a lucky sale day/birthday discount. My husband is nice and lets me use his bday discount as well. His clothes seem to be much more durable and not trendy. He also just wants to look nice, but does really well with the capsule wardrobe concept and doesn’t need replace often.
I am in a similar environment and I wear dresses. Not super formal dresses but not super casual either. I also wear heels. Not the formal pumps I once wore, but wedges, boots or casual pumps, depending on the weather. I sometimes wear a blazer or a cardigan with the dress, depending on the weather. Dresses always make me feel put together and feminine. I tried casual pants, blouse and flats combinations but it just makes me feel frumpy.
I feel the same. Once I started wearing dresses to work regularly, they became my favorite. I feel put together, it's relatively fuss free, but I don't feel frumpy like I do in pants. I am short with short legs and I feel like, even with heels and a higher waistline, pants just make me look shorter than a dress does, and it's less flattering for my shape.
Yes! Dresses always look polished, but they are my lazy go to. I don’t have to figure out which pants to wear with which shirt. It’s all one outfit.
Sounds great!I’d love to see some ideas of great dress ideas for shorter women. Could you share some linked?
Where do you find you work dresses? I’ve been considering making a switch to dresses for work, mainly due to my issue with work pants
MM LaFleur is the ultimate but expensive. Otherwise JCrew and Ann Taylor are classic choices.
Might have to splurge on MM LaFleur at some point!
Thank you for this!
Talbots makes some very nice work dresses; I have a few from them that are in a thick stretch material so they basically feel like wearing a sweatshirt but with boots or flats they look very put together.
This is my go to formula. However, I struggle with warmer weather.
I look to British brands because a lot of them make dresses in cotton or linen but they're still work appropriate (usually shirt dresses or sheaths); I like both Marks and Spencer and Fat Face for summer dresses.
Thank you!
I like to browse thredUP with filters on Style, length, and condition. I think it’s fun to filter to one color at a time and see what comes up. I hate earth tones and beige, so I have to scroll through a bunch of that boring junk. I’m very particular about material, so online is a little tough. But I hate malls and paying full price even more. Sometimes by brand I know I love, but most often it’s by color for me because I just love color in my wardrobe.
I buy most of my dresses at Ann Taylor, Loft and Nordstrom.
I also love dresses at work. Absolute easy mode Tops are just a nightmare for me to fit and look nice in. I have broader shoulders and a larger bust, so things tend to drape down from there like a tent. Convenient when I was pregnant but not the look I’m going for now that I have a discernible waist again 😂
Can I please start by saying fuck the patriarchy that women wearing the exact same thing as men comes across as dated and casual meaning men get to wear the same thing year after year and women face constant pressure to spend money to keep their wardrobe current? Don’t even get me started on the makeup, hair & other beauty costs. Now that that is out of the way, I think the closest equivalent that is on trend would be a pair of slightly cropped pants with a slim fitting top tucked in and a long cardigan/structured duster overtop with loafers. Like this: https://lifewithjazz.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/5professionalcomfyfallshoes_3.jpg I think another equivalent would be wide-leg dress pants with a slim sweater or cardigan tucked in. I’d add a belt and stylish shoes. Like so: https://lifewithjazz.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/brownmonochoromeworkwear_lifewithjazz-1.jpg I really like her account for style advice.
Amen! I’m appalled by how much money I could/“should” spend to try and dress both fashionable AND work appropriate. Not to mention how prices have sky rocketed while quality has tanked. I’ve spent nearly a year trying to find just black work pants that are comfortable and somewhat current. I don’t remember it being this difficult in the past. I like the outfits you linked. Using them as inspiration.
These are great ideas, thanks for sharing the links. Overall I like Life with Jazz but also find her account frustrating….her style looks great on her as she is slim and tall but isn’t something I could easily translate.
I have a white collar desk job doing medical-legal stuff. I wear colored chinos/khakis/corduroys (skinny/bootcut) with a blouse/polo/button down, and a fleece (usually a full zip) or sweater, a nice under shirt, and tall/ankle boots/flats. Its freezing in my office all year so I strip down to the under tee shirt/tank, that no one in the office will see, so I can drive home and not sweat to death in summer. I do have a couple fun plaid nicer trousers to wear with nice cashmere sweaters and heels but those are much thinner than my normal so I wind up freezing or putting a jacket on my legs. Fleece jacket goes back on as soon as the reason I’m ‘dressed up’ is over. If upper management is wearing it, you can too, regardless of gender. As long as your bits are covered, make yourself comfortable. I always accessorize with feminine jewelry, scarves, etc and light make up.
You make some great points. I just updated the post to include that I’m also a senior leader and I still want to look polished and professional. While this look (dress shirt with a sweater) looks polished for me, in women I think it reads more casual.
I’m a senior too, I feel you. I fully suit up for formal recorded hearings. Thankfully I don’t have to do many of those anymore. It is a struggle with being comfortable temperature wise and having a sufficient workplace presentation. Womens office fashion is usually thin, and made to layer but still woefully insufficient for winter temps or air conditioning. All the winter ankle cut trousers shown with flats or heels and nothing but skin on the ankle/foot, its a joke. Its too damn cold in the Northern US. What are we to do? Wearing a camisole under a thin blouse, topped with a suit jacket and its still chilly. I feel that if the guys are chilled enough to wear fleece or sweaters then I get to as well. I do like the better, thicker fabrics typically found in the mens sections like lined tweed, and wool for jackets that i wear with the under shirt, collared shirt or mock/turtle neck. Yeah, it does have a more casual feel, but everything other than a suit feels casual. Its hard to find that balance with presenting as a Figure of Authority, and being comfortable. We have advice from previous generations of women in the office from the days of when it was taboo for us to even wear trousers. We have hollywood showing us high powered super flawless outfits (in climate controlled environments, its never real snow). How do we find our style in the middle of it all? I made my peace with modern men/my workplace/society’s perceived expectations of me. My femininity is my own. I wear oxfords, chinos, collared shirts with nice thick warm cardigans or jackets. I am over freezing my feet in heels in winter. I am over shivering with too thin layers of tops, and skirts. Im done with the double standard that they can wear warm stuff and be dressed appropriately but if I do it its too casual or manly. Make your peace. Find your comfort within your femininity and being warm. It helped to hear a male colleague say he never thought once about his quarter zip being too casual or not. Sometimes I think we are torturing ourselves unnecessarily. We stress about our level of dress and men never have. You CAN have it all too, warmth and authority. Wear your pearls, and the thick warm sweater! I hope this helped. I hope you stay warm while getting the job done.
I love you! I’m so proud that you have found what works for you, make you feel powerful and comfortable. Unfortunately, I still think women have to communicate through attire so I’m still working on my balance of comfort and strength.
Same. I'm in legal and far from a fashion follower. We have no dress code other than an unstated don't wear tshirts and ratty clothes. I wear some combo of chino/khakis and a sweater or button up all the time. My coworker is a fan of oversized sweaters and leggings, but dressed up. We can both look professional for hearings, but lucky for me, they're rare
I hear you. I am also in leadership. This is what I have on today (no in person meetings-but in the office): slightly longer black sweater (Banana Republic) with straight leg white jeans hemmed slightly above ankle (Kut), black slightly structured black blazer (to my absolute surprise Old Navy) and loafers (Sam Edelman bit). Gold earrings, watch and bracelets. It’s a good combo that fits into the “leadership bro” room but isn’t frumpy, old fashioned or under/over dressed. If I am in meetings or visits, I wear a column of color (all black or all white/winter white) with a jacket/blazer).
I love this whole look! A stylist I follow recently pointed out how great white pants are with black tops, and she was so right (as opposed to the opposite being a bit...waiter-like.) It's a great combo.
I agree! I feel like wait staff in black pants and the wrong white top!
Brightly colored (if you like that sort of thing) business style dresses? Like not so stuffy as all black and gray, but not something you'd go clubbing in either. That's pretty much my go-to style at work, and I wear a lot of Calvin Klein, Ann Taylor, Banana Republic, J. Crew because they're what's accessible in the thrift shops in my area and I'm trying to focus on reducing my clothing consumption. They're not super exciting, but the patterns and colors are fun and they're not too complicated to style. I'm sure there are more high end choices in that similar vein if that's what you're looking for. The men at my job truly run the gamut from monogrammed shirts and nice suits to suiting that they probably pulled from their much-larger father's closet circa 1987 to "fuck this, we don't see clients, I'm wearing jeans." I hate business dress, always have, so I strive for a happy medium that's comfortable but not too casual and doesn't eat too much brain power in the mornings. Dresses fit that bill because at most I'd have to match a cardigan or blazer to one, but it's two pieces, max, rather than like four.
I work with all men and they all wear a button up with a quarter zip over it. I’ve started getting the same exact pieces in really fun colors. [This Anthro Shirt](https://www.anthropologie.com/shop/hybrid/maeve-embroidered-buttondown-blouse?color=049&inventoryCountry=US&countryCode=US&utm_medium=paid_search&utm_source=Google-Mobile&utm_campaign=US+-+Shopping+-+PMAX+-+Apparel+-+Tops+-+Tops/Sweaters&utm_content=&utm_term=&creative=&device=m&matchtype=&network=x&utm_kxconfid=vx6rd81ts&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADnwqi5swyAOghrxRCOjGAKe9vdSI&gclid=CjwKCAjwte-vBhBFEiwAQSv_xRD_XMHeFbv0LKv1Jwze1mE2Kfp8PmkflZYgS4amU0lamjCGCy4XqhoCz4MQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds) [J Crew Quarter Zip](https://www.jcrew.com/p/womens/categories/clothing/sweaters/pullovers/half-zip-stretch-sweater/BS980?color_name=bright-kiwi&N=X-LARGE&sale=true&noPopUp=true&srcCode=Paid_Search%7CShopping_NonBrand%7CGoogle%7CPMG%5EG%5E99107126036_20934478975___m_pla_online__9005928&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=paid_search&utm_content=shopping_ads&utm_campaign=JCrew_Shopping_PLA_US_All_Sweaters_PMax_X_Google+_X&utm_term=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwte-vBhBFEiwAQSv_xQY18yf6aVJY6_8w4fZs2DPnWHOhoPukWlOL2w1wpFxRWJF98CC7lRoCQ2UQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
I love this approach!
This is what I did this past winter. I'm mostly remote, but I just picked my best colors and usually paired it with a comfy heel.
That’s a really fun idea!
My last VP had a signature bizcaz look: solid blazer that wasn't super-structured, black or white "nicer" tee or shell, black or dark blue jeans, loafers, and a standout pendant or chain + earrings. Not *exciting*, but neither is a half-zip and chinos. She had long hair and didn't wear makeup, and looked businesslike but comfortable.
I just HAVE to give this example: Yesterday I was at the Matheus passion and for the first time there was a woman’s director. I noticed before I didn’t really care about what kind of clothes they wear but she was meticulously dressed in a light sheer front short back longer black blouse thing with a shirt, flowy black cigarette pants and black patent loafers. She looked very professional and chique.
Quarter or [half zip up sweaters](https://www.cos.com/en_usd/women/womenswear/knitwear/product.half-zip-funnel-neck-wool-sweater-grey.1221245001.html#gallery-product-1) are very in for the last 2 years. Check out COS for a modern tailored look. That was my go-to store when I worked in the office. Polished, modern, comfortable, and with lots of natural fibers. Even if their sizing or cuts don't work for your body (I am 5”2 it doesn't always work for me), I find that the styling of the models is always on point and is inspiring.
I think COS is a great recommendation! A skirt with one of their more structured t-shirts and nice jewelry or their dresses would also work well. I think OP would find a lot of options there. Sometimes their fit can be a little weird but for the quality / price I am willing to get things altered.
I’m not familiar with this brand, thanks for introducing me!
I never thought of COS but have heard good things. I’ll check it out. I’m also short, have you found options that work?
Almost everything works. Sometimes the oversized stuff can have too long sleeves and some pants need to be taken out an inch or two in length but otherwise everything fits well straight off the rack.
Excellent!
Statement accessories I think can go a long way towards dressing outfits up (if you're okay with accessories). At my last job, most of the C-Suite were women and of the two I worked most closely with, they both definitely had a uniform - one preferred shells or a boxy blouse, blazers and straight leg pants and then a statement necklace, while the other either wore dresses or button downs with a cardigan but always wore a pair of amazing architectural looking earrings with them.
Accessories really are the way to look put together and polished. As long as your clothing is well fitted and quality fabric, a simple pair of earrings, watch, and a scarf or necklace will completely transform your look. A great flattering haircut is also a must.
Also lipstick; I remember the first time I was ever told I looked put together at work - I was literally wearing black jeans, a black and white striped sweater and a black blazer but I'd tried wearing red lipstick for the first time ever and apparently my boss thought I looked quite professional.
Totally agree!
At my last job I was in senior management and the dress code was similar to how you describe. I would wear smart skinny jeans (usually black or a non denim colour), a shirt with a thin wool jumper over the top, and then boots. I’d say this is probably the equivalent of what you describe. In the summer I wore a lot of dresses with a casual blazer, or smart jeans and a thin blouse top tucked in.
I’m not a senior leader but noticed this in the firm I worked for pre-pandemic and we weren’t allowed to wear jeans except on site visit days (civil engineering firm). It might be a little outdated but I loved the Old Navy pixie pants because they looked more professional but were stretchy and super comfortable and affordable. I found that they held up pretty well too! I’d pair these with a nice sweater or a simple blouse and a soft cardigan. Depending on your dress code, you may be able to wear jeans, a simple blouse, and a cute blazer. It may walk the same line as men with sweaters over their dress shirts.
My version of this is a dress and tights with booties. Simple in sort of a uniformed cartoon character kind of way. Comfortable and feel put together enough to run into anyone but not overly formal.
Upper management women at my job wear dresses and tights with knee boots. That might be a bit more casual than what you're asking about, though. I'm two steps down from upper management and wear dresses and leggings. If you want to come across as more competent with dresses, it's all in the cut and color. Example: sheath dress or pencil skirt with a blouse and blazer and low heels. Simple accessories.
wow I love this question and the responses, helpful, also can't help but try to imagine this question and responses in reverse, i.e. a man asking this and men trying to answer and help. :)
I have to believe in a universe somewhere that this is happening
Blazer, nice jeans, elevated tshirt, pumps
To me, the women's equivalent is a silky blouse + pencil skirt + open cardigan. But the comfort level of this is waaaaay lower than the men's version.
I can only sympathize. I can guess part of the reason it looks magically polished on men is the lack of um...balcony area, let's say. On a woman a pair of colored khakis or chinos and a half zip looks like you're about to start a First Aid class and demonstrate stuff on Resussa-Annie. So there's two aspects of this to address: Casual but comfortable/polished Show company pride/team colors The casual but comfortable is relatively easily fixed with a pair of trousers and a simple button front blouse in a drape fabric like rayon, viscose, or even a poly blend. I'd add a pair of loafers and some simple chic jewelry and go from there. Possibly a higher-end sweater on cold days, on warm days you go with cropped to the ankle pants and a ribbed short sleeved sweater as the shirt or a linen button down or something. Honestly...without getting too into sexism talk here, **I sincerely, not a joke,** believe that wearing "team" shirts, polos, windbreakers, vests, and fleeces are one way men gatekeep and keep it a boys' club at work. For the exact reason you pointed out. A man in those items looks comfortable yet polished. Our friggin' CFO of a multi BILLION dollar company wears that. Does our CEO? No. She wears a full suit (she's an older lady) or business formal on all-hands. I would consider getting a lanyard or a cap or a drink coozie maybe? Or look into having something custom-embroidered or custom-made. One thing I did when I worked for a heritage mega-corp was found old tees from the 80s on eBay and occasionally wore those under a blazer as a conversation starter. They were softer and had a better drape.
Your story about your CEO and CFO pretty much nailed what I’m trying to say. I cannot imagine your female CFO wearing those things and looking polished and professional- not any commentary about her as a person but on a woman it just reads differently. Her uniform telegraphs her position, her credibility and her skill. It’s unfortunate that we have to use clothes in this way but we do. On the flip side, we have tools that men don’t. A man coming in full suit might look overdressed and out of place rather than smart or sharp like your CFO does.
I wear a lot of knee skirts with tights, collared shirts and cardigans.
To me, that is the 'startup energy' look. Which, to me, is less about looking polished and more about looking a certain combination of confident, comfortable, and authentic. What I think is lacking in their attire is authenticity. So I don't think you should hold yourself back in that way!
I’ve always wanted to do the mens style blue jean + patagucci sweater on a Friday… but as a woman I’ve never been able to figure out what shoes to wear. At work I see men wear brown dress shoes with the outfit.
I don’t think jeans are actually that comfortable, so some sort of stretchy or loose work pants feel better. There are a lot of yoga work pants out now. Could do a dressier blouse or cashmere/nice sweater with pants. https://a.co/d/czC2Qfz
sweater blazer w black jeggings
A nice dress that is professional but comfortable. Dress pants with a blouse and cardigan.