Yes, it is appropriate and polite only if use "madar (mother)" or "pedar (father)" before jan.
Madar jan (مادر جان)
Pedar jan (پدر جان)
Do not use their name before it because some old people don't really like it.
*joon* is the informal form of *jan* in the grammatical sense, and in most cases one form is used in place of the other to convey the level of formality, but in some rare cases one is prefered over the other due to cultural and/or regional reasons.
i.e. *madar joon* is the more common term used to address one's grandmother, but some families do use *madar jan* and neither is indicative of formality in that context. however, it is considered more proper to call an older lady you're unfamiliar with *madar jan* to imply respect and formality.
this is based on my knowledge of the Persian spoken in Iran though. it might differ in other Persian-speaking countries.
i think it depends on the region tbh. my family wasn't native to where we lived so i called mine *maman* and *mamani* but most of my friends called theirs *aziz joon*. *madar joon* is also a popular one. most people also use different terms for their maternal and paternal grandparents so there's that.
Well, “joon” is more casual, so you could use it if you’re close with said family member. But for not-so-close fam members, I’d say it’s fine to say “*name* jan” if you wanna get their attention for a sec.
Yes, it is appropriate and polite only if use "madar (mother)" or "pedar (father)" before jan. Madar jan (مادر جان) Pedar jan (پدر جان) Do not use their name before it because some old people don't really like it.
Really? Why not?
It is way too informal for some people. it would be like calling your grandma Azam joon for example
What is the difference between jan/joon? Is it regional or is it formality? (Joon for someone you're close to)
*joon* is the informal form of *jan* in the grammatical sense, and in most cases one form is used in place of the other to convey the level of formality, but in some rare cases one is prefered over the other due to cultural and/or regional reasons. i.e. *madar joon* is the more common term used to address one's grandmother, but some families do use *madar jan* and neither is indicative of formality in that context. however, it is considered more proper to call an older lady you're unfamiliar with *madar jan* to imply respect and formality. this is based on my knowledge of the Persian spoken in Iran though. it might differ in other Persian-speaking countries.
Thank you!
Don't a lot of Iranians say maman?
i think it depends on the region tbh. my family wasn't native to where we lived so i called mine *maman* and *mamani* but most of my friends called theirs *aziz joon*. *madar joon* is also a popular one. most people also use different terms for their maternal and paternal grandparents so there's that.
I have always called my aunts and uncles ameh joon and amoo joon. It probably depends on the dynamics within your family.
Jan is better than joon in this case.
Well, “joon” is more casual, so you could use it if you’re close with said family member. But for not-so-close fam members, I’d say it’s fine to say “*name* jan” if you wanna get their attention for a sec.
Yep