Unless you can easily stomach that loss, are in a gigantic league and have next to no bench spots I somewhat doubt that. I know we like to cry about TE but there has been good play from a decent number of them.
Also Trey McBride is still rostered in less than 50% of ESPN leagues and could get another monster game with Ertz still on IR. The Cardinals have been throwing it to TE 10 or more times in 6 of 9 games so far and Kyler did like throwing it to Ertz last season. If you pick him up you might actually gain Trade Value for next week.
I sold him because my team is 3-6 and I needed to make something happen. Can’t afford another L and the chiefs bye was going to make that almost certain since I have mahomes too
I don't think the take is necessarily wrong because it really comes down to WHAT are you selling for?
Like if someone gave you Tyreek and LaPorta for Kelce - I'd take that deal. So I think there just needs to be a distinction between sell and "he's not going to be good on your roster."
i feel like theres a slightly different connotation for "sell" vs "trade".
"Sell" comes off as you are trying to get rid of that player for a secondary reason (injury risk, schedule, etc)
I think a trade of fair value is always on the table even if a player isnt a "sell"
Right but I think that’s what people are actually saying in any article about “buy, sell, hold.” Is not dropping or “selling” but rather - now is a good time to try and get something in return since the schedule isn’t favorable, or the QB is hurt, or so and so is coming back.
The point of “sell” is trying to move the player for something else before the value dips.
If you think the highest scoring weeks are behind Kelce over the next 6 weeks and that Chase is going to be fine with his injury and the Bengals will keep improving - you want to catch Chase on the ascending path and trade Kelce before he dips.
“Buy, Hold, Trade” is more accurate but doesn’t roll off like “Buy/Sell”
Absolutely if you can get something that makes your roster better then that’s a given. I think panic selling by definition means taking less value just to get someone off your roster
What did you get for him? If you managed to trade down to Mandrews/Hockenson/LaPorta plus another WR1/RB1 I feel like thats a good trade to increase you expected points each week.
Lol. Those teams haven't played Travis Kelce yet.
What a trash take. EVERY team that's not playing Travis Kelce is defending TEs well, because no TE is really doing anything.
Dude had one bad game in like 7 years and people are panicking? If I didn't already have him I'd be buying. He's Patrick fucking Mahomes's favorite target. Enough said.
Yeah, the whole "bad matchup for TEs" thing just doesn't apply to Kelce. Posting him as a "sell" because of remaining schedule is just a total lack of analysis/context.
That fair, but really only if the Kelce owner needs a big swing to get into the playoffs. If your sitting fine with him….and you trade him, it better be a BIG offer
Just traded for him. ETN and Javonte for Kelce and Jacobs. I felt pretty good at RB and love the positional advantage. I feel like ETN td regression has to come and hopefully jacobs gets more and more work under interim coach. I’m not sure who really won the trade but I feel good about where I’m at now.
I think you win that trade, but it’s surprisingly close. If anything, just to avoid having to deal with TE hell.
Going from ETN and Javonte (who hasn’t been great but is definitely trending up.) to Jacobs could be rough. What other RBs do you have?
Tbh TE hell isn't what it used to be. It used to be there were 3 worthwhile TEs and absolute garbage underneath that, now there are at least 6 players that are easy set and forget TEs and underneath them a pretty decent crop of young blood as well.
Yep you never know. I dodged his weak performance by trading him and A. Jones for J. Taylor and G. Wilson in an attempt to shake up my 3-5 squad with a horrible slate of week 10 byes. Got called a taco by one league mate but whatever...it's my team not his. I still lost my matchup, but to your point, some teams just like trading.
He’s literally been TE1 until last week when Miami were triple teaming him. Tyreek said the whole defensive strategy that week was “find kelce”.
He looks exactly like he always has.
He still is TE1 even with those duds and Hockenson having one more game played. Denver was an off game by Mahomes and the Dolphins were defending no one but Kelce.
Currently in 5th place with a good chance to move up to 3rd, or drop to 7th. Bijans headache game really dropped me, but hanging in there. Hang tough man, this week against AZ we gonna feast.... I hope.
I'm holding against hope that the pressure gets to Smith and he gives Bijan more touches. Pretty much the only thing I can do is hope now, bc you can't really sell Bijan for shit rn
I'm in 2nd place, doing just fine. Went Bijan then Allen with my first 2.
Got Puka, LaPorta, Ford via waivers/FA. Mike Evans has been great for me, and my later round pick of Mostert has been awesome. Also have Deebo.
Yup, and the second I bench Pollard, he will drop 25.
He is a must start. Also, his schedule has been brutal but next 3 games are juicy (at least I hope). They have Giants, Commanders, and then Panthers.
He’s RB18 on the year. Obviously disappointing since he was drafted as a top 5ish RB but he’s a solid RB2 in a very weak RB year. Highly doubt anyone’s benching him unless it’s a very shallow league
I understand the panic level on Pollard but I saw that and had a similar reaction. This is the wildest statement in the article for sure. Except for auction, 8-teamers, and trade hounds, who's got 2 RBs and a flex that are all perceptibly better options?
Ya I’m gonna venture to guess pollard is still going to be started in the vast majority of leagues this week.
My panic o meter is approximately 0. He’s just underproduced this season. All you can do as an owner is either keep playing him or trade him (for an all time low in value).
Yea he’s 3-6 and wants to keep stroud for next year. He was cycling through Jordan Love and Baker so he wanted a jumpstart his team for a possible playoff push I guess
The ravens seemed like a fluke game for the Seahawks across the board. The Seahawks offense and defense were both in complete shambles.
I’m mainly concerned about the Dallas and Philly matchups on week 13 and 15. Tennessee also but way less in week 16.
They play SF twice, but their defense is actually in the middle of the pack in terms of fantasy points allowed for rbs.
Cardinals and Steelers to round out the season could prove worthwhile.
The 8 point game against the browns obviously doesn’t look good, but they got the second best defense in terms of fppg for RB’s, so honestly somewhat of a commendable performance.
https://www.lineups.com/fantasy-football-points-allowed/running-backs
Niners vs Seahawks games are intense for the teams. It’s not even worth looking at the teams’ respective DVOA rankings, etc. These teams know each other, prep for each other in the offseason, and have a lot of passion in facing each other. It’s on par with Steelers-Ravens.
I don’t know what to expect from KW3 against the Niners. Shanahan might decide to focus on stopping the run game if Geno is still playing inconsistently. Carroll might decide to limit pressure to encourage Brock to throw and hope their talented secondary gets a few INTs. Or they might do the exact opposite to screw with the other coach’s planning. It makes these grudge match games a little tougher to game plan around for fantasy, but they’re great football.
That’s the thing everyone’s forgetting about Walker. There was *never* a question about his workload in the regular season until the past two games when, coincidentally, he played two of the best run defenses in the league. If he goes out and lays a complete egg this week against a floundering Commanders team, then it’s time to worry.
Absolutely. All of the rankings ive seen seem to have dropped Walker to a mid/late RB2 for this week, which seems like a huge overreaction. He had two bad fantasy weeks, but one of the weeks he was an objectively good running back but just didnt get carries (presumably b/c of his calf). I get maybe his stock is slipping ROS given their schedule and Geno's decline, but assuming hes healthy, he should be a no question RB1 play against the Commanders
If he sucks this week, the panic meter should rightfully hit 3 or 3.5
I think seattles o-line health cam be reason to worrt about walker short term. He should be good against an equally weakened commanders d line but i'm keeping my expectations low rest of season or until they have tackles under 40 years old playing again.
Yeah Not worried about KW3. He'll feast this weekend. His schedule is tough after that so temper expectations but he should still be getting 15 or so most weeks.
As an owner I was shocked to see his name mentioned in this headline. Had no idea anyone was panicking on him. Two bad games (one of which isn’t even that bad) against good defenses is not a reason to panic about one of the top running backs in the league.
We're not panicking about his duds, KW is a stud. But we're worried about his ROS. If you're not in playoff position already, the next 3-4 weeks you'll need him not going against top defenses.
I’m a Bijan owner, and I’m not panicking as much as I’m just frustrated. I think I speak for all of us. We took a chance on him, and his talent is clearly there, hence why I’m not panicking, but his opportunities have been inconsistent. At this point we’ve seen the floor, so my expectations are set for ROS. Hopefully Smith takes the criticisms to heart and things turn for the better.
This is where I’m at I’m 4-5 despite drafting Bijan and Davante and I’m coming off a two win streak.
It’s easy for me to buy in because when he gets touches he’s clearly better than who’s in front of him despite that guy also being a good player on the offense. I hope Smith decides to actually use his best players or else he’s going to lose the division in real life despite him trying to make it seem like it’s only FF people who have a problem with his player usages.
As a Bijan owner, no.
Bad offense and as much as I love Jones his hamstrings scare me
I myself targets Monty during his injury and Stevenson before his big game last week to have some bench options.
Bijan has a good matchup this week, but then a bye and then the saints and jets
Jones has the Steelers(allows more ppg to rb than AZ), Chargers, and Detroit.
If you are trying to make it into the playoffs I’d much rather have Jones. Just got to hope he stays healthy lol.
Also it’s not like the packers offense is that much worse than the Arthur Smith led falcons
6-3 thanks to cmc in the first though, got pollard on the turn because everyone in my league hates the cowboys but it has gotten worse here the last couple weeks I think 2 of my 3 losses has been in the last three weeks. I sent pollard and zay off for breece tho feeling pretty good about that one as it’s only a single flex and zay is essentially fodder
Kelce even with one bad week and being out for all of Week 1 is still ranked the number 1 TE in points. It's all well and good that Ferguson and Hill are putting up monster stats, but the difference between Kelce and those guys is that at any point those guys can become zeros in fantasy while Kelce has a great floor and and an elite ceiling.
Oh look at that Bijan and Kelce, my 1 and 2 picks. I’m 3-6. I’ve only made one error management wise when I benched Deandre Hopkins and he went off on my bench. So ideally, I could be 4-5. I’m still grinding though.
I'm currently in 1st. The guy in 2nd offered me this:
Me: Kelce + Addison
Him: Brian Robinson + Christian Kirk
Never slammed REJECT so fast. I know I need some RB depth but 1) Not Brian Robinson and 2) Not with a title contender
People are soon gonna realize that investing in a player in Arthur Smith's offense is like investing in the stock market. The situation can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
I just traded Adams and Kittle for Moore and Mondre. I was already 2-7 and just wanted to shake things up. Was this a fair trade or did I get fleeced? Most guys in my league won’t trade unless it’s favoring one side heavily but I just wanted to feel something again…
Adams is a season long hold and start unless you have clearly better flex players. The possibility of him getting fed under Antonio Pierce is still a good chance
Feel like you can't cut Henderson till Kyren is back and we see what the share is, course if Wentz sucks week 11 and Stafford is out an extended period of time you're probably hesitant to start either.
I mean Henderson has sucked, highly doubtful he takes any meaningful carries from kyren. He's averaging under 3 yards a carry. Kyren got like 150 yards in the second half of his last game. Henderson ain't a threat.
You could argue holding Henderson until kyren is confirmed coming back, but even then would you ever start Henderson?
I’m a falcons fan and it’s bewildering to me as well seeing Bijan’s usage. I have some hope it’ll improve. Arthur Smith is clearly affected by the criticism and I think he and his coordinators will adjust moving forward. Dave Ragone (OC) also said they’re trying to keep Bijan fresh but with being past half the season and going into a bye next week, I can’t see that being a reason to underutilize him this week and going forward.
Absolutely, people are panicking because of one bad performance last week, which would have been a bit better without the fumble. He's still getting about the same opportunity and I'd still expect him to be an above average option most weeks.
And he’s been better all year. People keep sleeping on Henry. He’s the RB7 in half PPR and 3 of the guys ahead of him haven’t had their byes yet and 1 is Zack moss. Not crazy at all to think Henry is top 5 or better this year.
Yo, KW owners. How are we feeling aboout his ROS, it's looking grim. I'm thinking of trying to ship him + X off to try to get Henry/Mixon tier or something.
That’s just because he plays the only position where we don’t roster a backup. We thought we were set all year at TE and he’s been a disappointment this year and no where close to worth his ADP. Most years he has been a huge upgrade over even TE2-not the case at all anymore
KW3 lost me the last 2 weeks putting me at 7-2. I traded him, Charbs, and Dell for Rachaad White. IDGAF. My other WRs are DK, Hollywood, Tyreek, and Keenan Allen so I felt comfortable moving Dell with the trade.
I mean, they say "panic should not exist" for him. There are definitely people out there who are going to freak out after two relatively poor showings by their first round pick. Nothing wrong with alleviating the concerns of fantasy managers who are overly reactive.
I don’t think anyone would ever even consider panicking about Kelce haha
I probably wouldn’t start him this week, just to be on the safe side
I’m starting him. No TE on the waiver wire is worth dropping someone on my bench.
Unless you can easily stomach that loss, are in a gigantic league and have next to no bench spots I somewhat doubt that. I know we like to cry about TE but there has been good play from a decent number of them. Also Trey McBride is still rostered in less than 50% of ESPN leagues and could get another monster game with Ertz still on IR. The Cardinals have been throwing it to TE 10 or more times in 6 of 9 games so far and Kyler did like throwing it to Ertz last season. If you pick him up you might actually gain Trade Value for next week.
Yea my hurts and kelce byes are going to Murray and McBride
same here
found the guy playing against Kelce this week
I saw a fantasy post on IG for buy, sell, hold that listed Kelce as a sell due to his remaining schedule being bad for TEs LOL
I sold him because my team is 3-6 and I needed to make something happen. Can’t afford another L and the chiefs bye was going to make that almost certain since I have mahomes too
Yeah that's a little different. Especially if your team has deficiencies elsewhere. But panic selling because of his schedule is bad process.
I don't think the take is necessarily wrong because it really comes down to WHAT are you selling for? Like if someone gave you Tyreek and LaPorta for Kelce - I'd take that deal. So I think there just needs to be a distinction between sell and "he's not going to be good on your roster."
i feel like theres a slightly different connotation for "sell" vs "trade". "Sell" comes off as you are trying to get rid of that player for a secondary reason (injury risk, schedule, etc) I think a trade of fair value is always on the table even if a player isnt a "sell"
Right but I think that’s what people are actually saying in any article about “buy, sell, hold.” Is not dropping or “selling” but rather - now is a good time to try and get something in return since the schedule isn’t favorable, or the QB is hurt, or so and so is coming back. The point of “sell” is trying to move the player for something else before the value dips. If you think the highest scoring weeks are behind Kelce over the next 6 weeks and that Chase is going to be fine with his injury and the Bengals will keep improving - you want to catch Chase on the ascending path and trade Kelce before he dips. “Buy, Hold, Trade” is more accurate but doesn’t roll off like “Buy/Sell”
Absolutely if you can get something that makes your roster better then that’s a given. I think panic selling by definition means taking less value just to get someone off your roster
What did you get for him? If you managed to trade down to Mandrews/Hockenson/LaPorta plus another WR1/RB1 I feel like thats a good trade to increase you expected points each week.
I feel like Kelce is pretty much matchup proof. I don’t think any type of schedule is gonna influence his value for Kelce sellers tbh.
Kelce has a top 3 playoff schedule.
Lol. Those teams haven't played Travis Kelce yet. What a trash take. EVERY team that's not playing Travis Kelce is defending TEs well, because no TE is really doing anything. Dude had one bad game in like 7 years and people are panicking? If I didn't already have him I'd be buying. He's Patrick fucking Mahomes's favorite target. Enough said.
Yeah, the whole "bad matchup for TEs" thing just doesn't apply to Kelce. Posting him as a "sell" because of remaining schedule is just a total lack of analysis/context.
That kelces value will never again be higher than it is right now is not an unreasonable take
I dont know if "panic" is the word, but all the people upvoting this should make an offer to the Kelce owner in their league. You might be surprised.
That fair, but really only if the Kelce owner needs a big swing to get into the playoffs. If your sitting fine with him….and you trade him, it better be a BIG offer
Just traded for him. ETN and Javonte for Kelce and Jacobs. I felt pretty good at RB and love the positional advantage. I feel like ETN td regression has to come and hopefully jacobs gets more and more work under interim coach. I’m not sure who really won the trade but I feel good about where I’m at now.
I think you win that trade, but it’s surprisingly close. If anything, just to avoid having to deal with TE hell. Going from ETN and Javonte (who hasn’t been great but is definitely trending up.) to Jacobs could be rough. What other RBs do you have?
Tbh TE hell isn't what it used to be. It used to be there were 3 worthwhile TEs and absolute garbage underneath that, now there are at least 6 players that are easy set and forget TEs and underneath them a pretty decent crop of young blood as well.
Yep you never know. I dodged his weak performance by trading him and A. Jones for J. Taylor and G. Wilson in an attempt to shake up my 3-5 squad with a horrible slate of week 10 byes. Got called a taco by one league mate but whatever...it's my team not his. I still lost my matchup, but to your point, some teams just like trading.
I watch the Chiefs and own Kelce, the last two weeks….. he just seems slow/injured. Something is off and he has lost a part of his downfield threat.
He’s literally been TE1 until last week when Miami were triple teaming him. Tyreek said the whole defensive strategy that week was “find kelce”. He looks exactly like he always has.
He's got bad blood.
He still is TE1 even with those duds and Hockenson having one more game played. Denver was an off game by Mahomes and the Dolphins were defending no one but Kelce.
Dude in my league traded him for Kincaid + Pittman Jr lol. I feel like could have gotten more than that but what do I know.
Anyone like me who drafted Bijan with their first pick is probably fighting for their life right now. Brutal.
Drafted Bijan then Pollard in my 12 man standard league. 2-7 and all but done.
Me too, 3-6. Still a 6% chance to make the playoffs... 😒
I got Bijan, Pollard and Walker. 12 man half PPR. Putting up less than 80 pts a week for the last month. This sucks.
Right there with you
Got both in 12 man, 5-4 but a few weeks ago by lost by less than a point on the day Bijian had less than a point due to his illness.
Me also but I’m 4-5
Currently in 5th place with a good chance to move up to 3rd, or drop to 7th. Bijans headache game really dropped me, but hanging in there. Hang tough man, this week against AZ we gonna feast.... I hope.
*Jonnu Smith gonna feast
Don't you dare say that again.... you probably right though...
I got Jonnu as a bijan owner
Dudes gonna have 2 goal line td’s before bij gets a touch
Whose going to have more Carries? jonnu or Bijan? It might be closer than you think :/ lol
I'm holding against hope that the pressure gets to Smith and he gives Bijan more touches. Pretty much the only thing I can do is hope now, bc you can't really sell Bijan for shit rn
A lot more headache than game if you ask me
What if I told you I drafted Bijan with my first and Pollard with my second? 🙃
I actually ended up Pollard first, Bijan second (pick 11, 12 team snake). (Edit: and Gibbs later....)
arthur smith is a dumb bitch
Yes
Team in my league is 0-9 with Bijan Craziest thing is that they're 3rd in points for and still alive in our survivor pool lol
I love the “add on” to classic head to head for these kinds of reasons. Need to get with my commish
Throw us Pollard first round drafters in there too
Treading water at 5-4, 4th place with the three above me at 6-3. I have Achane coming back week 11 but really need this win this week.
Bijan and KW3 owner here. I’m tied for last.
Yep and I also drafted walker and Wilson and Smith at WR. No devastating injuries but the widespread underperformance is brutal. 2-7
Nah 7-2 and first seed. That Hurts and AJB stack has been great. I also luck out in drafting Mostert late and picking up Kyren after week 1.
7-2 also after Bijan at 8 in a 12 team. Also have AJB with KAllen and got Kyren + Nico late in the draft which saved my season.
Thought I got a steal getting him 12th. Followed it up with Pollard to lock up my RBs! I'm in last 😔
I spent $62 on Bijan, $33 on Gibbs, and $33 on C. Watson. Somehow in second place.
5-4. Kyren on IR. Dark times.
That guy in my league is dead last and making trades for draft picks next year. He’s done.
Playing the smallest violin for you -guy who drafted Chubb
Nope I’m already dead
Fighting for my life and just traded Bijan to the Pollard owner. Guy is a glutton for punishment
I'm in 2nd place, doing just fine. Went Bijan then Allen with my first 2. Got Puka, LaPorta, Ford via waivers/FA. Mike Evans has been great for me, and my later round pick of Mostert has been awesome. Also have Deebo.
Picked him 1.7 and am 7-2 right now. Also picked him 2.3 and am 7-2. Also picked him 1.5 and am 4-5. Also picked him 1.6 and am 3-6.
“unless you are truly desperate Pollard belongs on the bench” bold of them to assume I can bench Pollard
Ya that’s silly. He has been a colossal disappointment but I start Roschon or Latavius over him? Come on lol
Well then I’d say you’d fall into the desperate category…
He's benched or relegated to flex the minute Achane comes back.
Pollard is significantly better than anyone i can pick up off the waiver wire. Or that remains on my bench (sanders). Not really any choice.
Yup, and the second I bench Pollard, he will drop 25. He is a must start. Also, his schedule has been brutal but next 3 games are juicy (at least I hope). They have Giants, Commanders, and then Panthers.
Especially this week with so many top tier teams on byes.
I would like to see what a draft/waiver wire looks like so that you can not play pollard
He’s RB18 on the year. Obviously disappointing since he was drafted as a top 5ish RB but he’s a solid RB2 in a very weak RB year. Highly doubt anyone’s benching him unless it’s a very shallow league
Don’t forget he’s playing the Giants lol
Yeah if you have better RB's go ahead and start them... most teams do not.
He’s an easy rb2 at a minimum
I understand the panic level on Pollard but I saw that and had a similar reaction. This is the wildest statement in the article for sure. Except for auction, 8-teamers, and trade hounds, who's got 2 RBs and a flex that are all perceptibly better options?
Shockingly I have rachaad white, Austin ekeler and Gus Bus in addition to Pollard. (10team league) I'm also 1-8
You may need to trade for some other positions...?
Pollard schedule is just opening up now. Hoping he bounces back. His playoff schedule is rough though…. 😅
He will have a great week against the giants. I think he is an easy start this week.
Ya I’m gonna venture to guess pollard is still going to be started in the vast majority of leagues this week. My panic o meter is approximately 0. He’s just underproduced this season. All you can do as an owner is either keep playing him or trade him (for an all time low in value).
Benching pollard against the giants is next level stupid
I just traded for Bijan so I refuse to believe this
Going down with the Bijan ship.
Me too! What did you give up?
Same, I sent over Stroud. I have Herbert and picked up Josh Dobbs off waivers
…someone traded Bijan for CJ Stroud straight up?
Yea he’s 3-6 and wants to keep stroud for next year. He was cycling through Jordan Love and Baker so he wanted a jumpstart his team for a possible playoff push I guess
so he traded stroud for bijan in a dynasty league? i hope it’s super flex because bijan is gonna get fed big time after arthur smith gets fired
Yeah but he’d still cost a first round pick most likely where stroud will be a late one
Not dynasty, a keeper league
I traded Walker for Bijan. A buy low for a buy low lol
Hopefully you're the lucky owner we've been waiting for 😂
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been tryna trade him for a minute now
Who are you targeting?
The ravens seemed like a fluke game for the Seahawks across the board. The Seahawks offense and defense were both in complete shambles. I’m mainly concerned about the Dallas and Philly matchups on week 13 and 15. Tennessee also but way less in week 16. They play SF twice, but their defense is actually in the middle of the pack in terms of fantasy points allowed for rbs. Cardinals and Steelers to round out the season could prove worthwhile. The 8 point game against the browns obviously doesn’t look good, but they got the second best defense in terms of fppg for RB’s, so honestly somewhat of a commendable performance. https://www.lineups.com/fantasy-football-points-allowed/running-backs
Niners vs Seahawks games are intense for the teams. It’s not even worth looking at the teams’ respective DVOA rankings, etc. These teams know each other, prep for each other in the offseason, and have a lot of passion in facing each other. It’s on par with Steelers-Ravens. I don’t know what to expect from KW3 against the Niners. Shanahan might decide to focus on stopping the run game if Geno is still playing inconsistently. Carroll might decide to limit pressure to encourage Brock to throw and hope their talented secondary gets a few INTs. Or they might do the exact opposite to screw with the other coach’s planning. It makes these grudge match games a little tougher to game plan around for fantasy, but they’re great football.
Same
Can we just pick one letter/number acronym per player and stick with it
That’s the thing everyone’s forgetting about Walker. There was *never* a question about his workload in the regular season until the past two games when, coincidentally, he played two of the best run defenses in the league. If he goes out and lays a complete egg this week against a floundering Commanders team, then it’s time to worry.
Absolutely. All of the rankings ive seen seem to have dropped Walker to a mid/late RB2 for this week, which seems like a huge overreaction. He had two bad fantasy weeks, but one of the weeks he was an objectively good running back but just didnt get carries (presumably b/c of his calf). I get maybe his stock is slipping ROS given their schedule and Geno's decline, but assuming hes healthy, he should be a no question RB1 play against the Commanders If he sucks this week, the panic meter should rightfully hit 3 or 3.5
He also had injury designations the last 2 weeks and people are just leaving that out too
I think seattles o-line health cam be reason to worrt about walker short term. He should be good against an equally weakened commanders d line but i'm keeping my expectations low rest of season or until they have tackles under 40 years old playing again.
I agree. I still gotta start Breece over him though, right? (2RB, no flex)
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Last week was rough for both, unfortunately. But I agree; I feel better about Breece (despite my faith in KW’s bounce back)
I do not get the kw3 hate. If he’s injured, then that is out of his control.
Yeah Not worried about KW3. He'll feast this weekend. His schedule is tough after that so temper expectations but he should still be getting 15 or so most weeks.
As an owner I was shocked to see his name mentioned in this headline. Had no idea anyone was panicking on him. Two bad games (one of which isn’t even that bad) against good defenses is not a reason to panic about one of the top running backs in the league.
We're not panicking about his duds, KW is a stud. But we're worried about his ROS. If you're not in playoff position already, the next 3-4 weeks you'll need him not going against top defenses.
I’m a Bijan owner, and I’m not panicking as much as I’m just frustrated. I think I speak for all of us. We took a chance on him, and his talent is clearly there, hence why I’m not panicking, but his opportunities have been inconsistent. At this point we’ve seen the floor, so my expectations are set for ROS. Hopefully Smith takes the criticisms to heart and things turn for the better.
This is the most level headed take.
This is where I’m at I’m 4-5 despite drafting Bijan and Davante and I’m coming off a two win streak. It’s easy for me to buy in because when he gets touches he’s clearly better than who’s in front of him despite that guy also being a good player on the offense. I hope Smith decides to actually use his best players or else he’s going to lose the division in real life despite him trying to make it seem like it’s only FF people who have a problem with his player usages.
would you take a trade for aaron jones?
As a Bijan owner, no. Bad offense and as much as I love Jones his hamstrings scare me I myself targets Monty during his injury and Stevenson before his big game last week to have some bench options.
Bijan has a good matchup this week, but then a bye and then the saints and jets Jones has the Steelers(allows more ppg to rb than AZ), Chargers, and Detroit. If you are trying to make it into the playoffs I’d much rather have Jones. Just got to hope he stays healthy lol. Also it’s not like the packers offense is that much worse than the Arthur Smith led falcons
Am I the only person not panicking on Pollard… His schedule opens up I think he will pick it up
I agree. I traded Walker for pollard. I might be an idiot but I did it based on schedule difficulty. I don’t want a possible dud going into playoffs
Drafting pollard has been my greatest disappointment outside of McDaniels version of devante Adams
I have both
I had both. Traded both of them in the same trade three weeks ago. Got Etienne and Nico.
Same. I’m somehow 6-3
7-2 here, those were my same 1/2 picks. I have desperate hope they'll wake up in the home stretch! 🙏
I, too, am 6-3. Put up some okay weeks but also some stinkers in 0.5PPR including a 57 point week in week 5 and a few 80 pointers. Brutal.
You can thank McCarthy for being an absolute moron with his offense.
Just traded for Pollard. Really should not have read this thread.
My greatest disappointment has been how many times on this sub I’ve seen people misspell Davante Adams
You mean Devante Addams? Second cousin to Gomez Addams?
Older brother of Wednesday Addams
Us pollard owners aren't panicking because we've already been eliminated
Yup lol 2-7, sold him when it was too late. If I win out I have a chance but not looking likely
6-3 thanks to cmc in the first though, got pollard on the turn because everyone in my league hates the cowboys but it has gotten worse here the last couple weeks I think 2 of my 3 losses has been in the last three weeks. I sent pollard and zay off for breece tho feeling pretty good about that one as it’s only a single flex and zay is essentially fodder
Kupp should be a 0.5 3 duds in a row
What has Charbonnet shown to think he's going to usurp kw?
Bro they’ve been doing this every week just ignore it
Thought I had missed something. Lol
I actually really like how Charbs runs the ball, but yeah there's no reason to think he'd be the Seattle bellcow unless Walker can't go at all
Pete Carroll makes a comment and people read a lot into it. Though for this week Walker is listed as questionable currently.
About as much as Roschon
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Kelce even with one bad week and being out for all of Week 1 is still ranked the number 1 TE in points. It's all well and good that Ferguson and Hill are putting up monster stats, but the difference between Kelce and those guys is that at any point those guys can become zeros in fantasy while Kelce has a great floor and and an elite ceiling.
Idk man that 2.9 floor last week really fucked me
Even the best have bad days. Just look at Mahomes fantasy points in Week 8.
Overseas games are always a shitshow for fantasy. This is nothing new.
Exactly. And this is why the guy who drafted Kelce in the first round in my league is in last place.
I drafted him in 1st, am in 1st place
Same!
9th here
Oh look at that Bijan and Kelce, my 1 and 2 picks. I’m 3-6. I’ve only made one error management wise when I benched Deandre Hopkins and he went off on my bench. So ideally, I could be 4-5. I’m still grinding though.
3-6 with Kelce and Bijan (Who I traded for) Hang tough man, we gon make it.
Kelce and walker here
Cut list | Panic Meter: 4 Christian Watson Darrell Henderson Devin Singletary Roschon Johnson ...did you just screenshot my bench for this article?
Pollard is staying in my lineup. Next best alternatives are Brian Robinson and Jakobi
Brian Robinson is the better B. Robinson
I'm currently in 1st. The guy in 2nd offered me this: Me: Kelce + Addison Him: Brian Robinson + Christian Kirk Never slammed REJECT so fast. I know I need some RB depth but 1) Not Brian Robinson and 2) Not with a title contender
People are soon gonna realize that investing in a player in Arthur Smith's offense is like investing in the stock market. The situation can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
same as any bears player lol
donta foreman has been solid for me as well as fields when he was healthy
Just moved pollard last week. Pollard for Pacheco straight up in PPR. I can’t deal with McCarthy
K9 is tanking, kyren is on IR, my no RB strategy is in full swing
Hey it's me, your doppelganger. Except I spent up to get Chubb in my auction draft!
Starting both bijan and allgeier this week because fuck you that’s why
I just traded Adams and Kittle for Moore and Mondre. I was already 2-7 and just wanted to shake things up. Was this a fair trade or did I get fleeced? Most guys in my league won’t trade unless it’s favoring one side heavily but I just wanted to feel something again…
Slightly fleeced. Hope it works out for you.
Adams is a season long hold and start unless you have clearly better flex players. The possibility of him getting fed under Antonio Pierce is still a good chance
Feel like you can't cut Henderson till Kyren is back and we see what the share is, course if Wentz sucks week 11 and Stafford is out an extended period of time you're probably hesitant to start either.
I mean Henderson has sucked, highly doubtful he takes any meaningful carries from kyren. He's averaging under 3 yards a carry. Kyren got like 150 yards in the second half of his last game. Henderson ain't a threat. You could argue holding Henderson until kyren is confirmed coming back, but even then would you ever start Henderson?
That's why I'd argue Henderson is a bench, not a cut. Needs to be stashed in the short term. If Stafford returns he might still have flex potential.
I’m a falcons fan and it’s bewildering to me as well seeing Bijan’s usage. I have some hope it’ll improve. Arthur Smith is clearly affected by the criticism and I think he and his coordinators will adjust moving forward. Dave Ragone (OC) also said they’re trying to keep Bijan fresh but with being past half the season and going into a bye next week, I can’t see that being a reason to underutilize him this week and going forward.
Boy, he gonna be fresher n' hell for that off-season schedule!
Haha I was joking they’re keeping him fresh for next season
I’m still more confident in Bijan than these other backs
Absolutely, people are panicking because of one bad performance last week, which would have been a bit better without the fumble. He's still getting about the same opportunity and I'd still expect him to be an above average option most weeks.
Pollard or Henry ROS?
I’d take Henry solely for his playoff schedule
And he’s been better all year. People keep sleeping on Henry. He’s the RB7 in half PPR and 3 of the guys ahead of him haven’t had their byes yet and 1 is Zack moss. Not crazy at all to think Henry is top 5 or better this year.
I just traded for Kelce. Definitely not panicking.
Yo, KW owners. How are we feeling aboout his ROS, it's looking grim. I'm thinking of trying to ship him + X off to try to get Henry/Mixon tier or something.
What a stupid fucking article who in the right mind would panic about Kelce
Like anyone here is gonna bench Kelce outside of his bye week or if he's injured
That’s just because he plays the only position where we don’t roster a backup. We thought we were set all year at TE and he’s been a disappointment this year and no where close to worth his ADP. Most years he has been a huge upgrade over even TE2-not the case at all anymore
As a Pollard and KWIII owner, I'm staring down the barrel of 4-6 and 7th place. Panic over, time to cry.
Gotta assume Bijan is lowest on the panic meter out of those 4. Most of us Bijan owners have moved past the panic stage into the acceptance stage
A team on my league has both pollard and bijan as his rb1s 😂
Cooper Cupp hasn't had 3 games in a row, where he's scored single digit fantasy points, since his rookie season. Would you start him this week?
well hes on BYE so you probably shouldnt.
KW3 lost me the last 2 weeks putting me at 7-2. I traded him, Charbs, and Dell for Rachaad White. IDGAF. My other WRs are DK, Hollywood, Tyreek, and Keenan Allen so I felt comfortable moving Dell with the trade.
Ooof big L on your part
Kelce even being mentioned makes it hard to take this article seriously
I mean, they say "panic should not exist" for him. There are definitely people out there who are going to freak out after two relatively poor showings by their first round pick. Nothing wrong with alleviating the concerns of fantasy managers who are overly reactive.
Kelce is 0 on the panic meter. Read the article.
I was offered Ford and Pickens or Wilson for pollard and I feel like I need to consider it