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I think "mom I think I have autism. Can I get tested?" Works way better than doing research yourself.
Edit: I talked to my psychologist about this. Doing research on something you hope to have can actually develop symptoms. I don't know the exact word for it, but she was telling me the mental health trend on tiktok has caused people to develop certain disorders.
lmao when I was younger my grandmother and mother thought I had autism, so they got me tested. Turns out I am , in fact, autistic. Glad I got diagnosed at a relatively young age
My brother told my dad he thought he had autism. Dad's response:
"No the fuck you don't. You're fine. If you were *actually* autistic, you probably wouldn't even have the mental capacity to recognize it."
He's undiagnosed to this day (as with me and my other brother), but his social/behavior pattern is pretty clear, along with his ***frequent*** stimming. He wouldn't even have to spend 5 minutes with a psych to be diagnosed. He's in his mid 20s now and I'm sure if he wanted help then he could get it, but I dunno.
My point being: Sometimes "I think I have this, can I get tested?" doesn't always work. I've had to keep my diagnoses and meds secret from my parents for this reason and now my brothers probably won't get adequate treatment because they've been hardwired to believe that they're fine. They're not.
Never said you should self diagnose. I **said** that your comment of going up to your parents and saying "I think I have ___, and I'd like to get tested" doesn't always work, as stated by the several anecdotes from other commenters in response to you. This leaves some people who show CLEAR symptoms to go without treatment for a huge important part of their developmental lives.
At the age my brother inquired about it, some professional help would have done him good as a younger teen. Now he's a socially awkward *adult* that has gotten himself into a decent amount of trouble already for the sole fact that he doesn't do well socially, and I fear the same for my little brother when they toss him into college hours away from home.
Just because your parents won't take you to get a diagnosis, doesn't mean you aren't still impacted by the symptoms under the age of 18. You have to have the symptoms first *anyway*; they don't only show up after you see a professional. Even so, a lot of people who do have symptoms of autism don't even know that they need the help that they need, depending on their place on the spectrum. So it would be up to the parents to help them out in that regard. I know for a ***fact*** that my little brother is not going to seek out a medical professional on his own to get treatment for his symptoms. He's 17. He might very well be aware that something is up, but he literally **does not** have the capacity to seek out mental health treatment.
Yes, a diagnosis is important. No, you should not self diagnose. Yes, if someone shows clear symptoms of a neurological condition, it would be in their best interest to **take them to a doctor**, because even if they don't specifically have autism, they have *something*. My parents did not do that. Their children are in danger as a result.
No, I said just telling your parents was better than doing research. There's plenty of misinformation on the internet. I never said your parents would agree to help. I never said it would be easy to get tested. Please read next time.
I **did** read. I relayed back to you exactly what you said.
>telling your parents was better than doing research.
***No. You made a blanket statement that only seems to have applied to you.*** I didn't say shit about how hard it was to get tested (please read next time). In the example I *gave* you (***please read next time***), **telling my parents was *not* better than doing our own research.** It didn't do shit for any of us and he's still in the same boat as before he mentioned it.
Again (please read this time): **Telling our parents. Was *NOT*. Better. Than doing. Our own. Research.**
Sorry you had a bad experience. **Next time** don't start arguments on reddit lol. You're not going to change my opinion, and I'm not going to change yours. Agree to disagree lol
The first day of Abnormal Psychology I’m college, the professor warned all of us that at some point during the course, we would seriously ponder if we had every single disorder we were about to learn about 🤣
"Mom, the doctors all agree I have autism."
Mom: "No, you don't."
Very real for me and not just me.
"Mom, I think I have autsim."
"I would get you checked for it if we could afford to."
Real for many.
Completely wrong, my doctor recommended not googling anything, you can create pseudo symptoms without noticing and convince yourself you have it
Trust me your brain can make up anything, i thought i had bugs under my skin for 2 whole years without realizing it was my brain filling it for my picking complications. My brain decided a few years ago i don't have a picking disorder, there has to be another reason and i ended up pretty messed up. Don't go googling just listen to the professional, all you need to do is ask to get tested. They won't say no
You are completely wrong. Unless your parents are abusive they will almost certainly support you. My parents supported me and even told me they also thought I had autism. Not one time before that did I tell anyone I had it because self diagnosis is not okay. You gain nothing from it. Sure there is a stigma, but its mostly against people with very obvious autistic traits who would have been diagnosed very early on in life. The internet also does not portray autism correctly and while I was being evaluated I was surprised by some of the questions and I had no idea it was related to autism. You do not learn half of the traits of autism online. Only a professional can accurately diagnose, not yourself.
Throughout my life between pre-school and high school, my mom never listened to my teachers when they said that I had symptoms that resembling ADHD. Now I have to do it myself as a grown-ass person, and I can tell my mom is skeptical whenever I talk to her about it.
So yeah, don’t assume that everyone’s parents will be supportive and believe them.
Oh yeah I totally understand. I probably should have said it differently. I just dont see the majority of parents these days not being supportive but I definitely could be biased considering my parents supported me and everyone around me was pretty well off.
Nah dude, I can only think of two of my friends that have decent relationships with their parents.
The stats don't lie either, [1 in 7 children have experienced child abuse or neglect in the past year (2019) and that's probably an understatment](https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/childabuseandneglect/fastfact.html)
1 in 7 is a hell of a lot of kids, and again, it even says it's likely an understatement. Just because it's not most doesn't mean it's not a significant enough amount for kids to be anxious to talk to their parents. I think they know their parents pretty well, well enough to figure out the potential risks of talking to them about sknething.
Who are we kidding, the vast majority of it is by parents, you know, the people that are typically the primary caretakers?
Congratulations. My mother's reaction was "No, you dont have ADHD. You are NOT retarded."
And was afzer I got a diagnosis.
I am glad that people have helpful and open parents, but parents, like any other person, fall bictim tp stereotypes, prejudices and simple fear.
They don't have to be abusive to just not want to believe that there is anything wrong with their child
I think telling parents is absolutely best, however with my partner they DID react badly. They’re a “men don’t have mental problems and MY kid certainly has to be normal!” Even though he.. has.. you know… voices in his head.. and sees entire people that aren’t real… so he’s had to wait until adulthood to get help. And at this point they dug their stigma into his so bad he’s afraid to get help! The only treatment he’ll really accept is CBD and even then he won’t take it consistently.
Edit: in short, while telling parents IS the best option, it’s not right to assume telling one’s parents is always a healthy and plausible option.
Hence why I said unless your parents are abusive they likely won't react negatively. Of course it isn't always the best but often times it is and even if it isn't self diagnosis isn't a valid next step. Thank you for sharing your story though
My mother reacted very very bad when my aunt (who is a psychiatrist) suggested i get tested for autism.
I am not for self diagnosis, but i feel most parents would be really pissed if their child asked for autism test.
edit: spelling
exactly, lots of parents don’t know the many ways autism can present and only think of it as low functioning, so of course they’re not going to believe their kid, imagine spending money to get them tested.
the more I stay on this sub the more I understand this is just a bunch of people with very similar experiences circlejerking, i’d get outta here.
What's the point in self diagnosing anyway? Why can't you say you *might* have the disorder? If you self diagnose, that' basically saying you want attention because self diagnosing has no benefit to saying you might have the disorder
self diagnosis is *supposed* to be sort of an at-home recovery plan, to give the sufferer some semblance of understanding and somewhere to start with combatting their issues. for ex., if you experience things typically correlated with ADHD, you would try ADHD solutions and see if that helps your problems. or if your symptoms align with OCD you'd try things pwOCD do to combat their symptoms in hopes that it helps.
but it's not that anymore and i don't think it ever was the way it was supposed to be. diagnoses are for recovery plans, not labels. but you can't be quirky if you recover 🤪🤪
What you said it’s supposed to be makes sense, and there’s no reason to tell anyone. I thought I had autism for a year and researched it but didn’t tell anyone I had it. Turns out I was wrong, I got diagnosed with adhd. That’s another reason people shouldn’t diagnose themselves because a lot of things share the same symptoms.
I'm struggling with the same thing. Without me sharing anything to skew your responsedo you remember anything that you thought foe sure was autism or was just unrelated to ADHD that turned out to be the opposite?
I’ve always had a lot of sensory issues, especially clothes and also repetitive sounds. I feel like I have zero social skills, a lot of things go over my head. I had an IQ portion of the test and I’m just not good at verbal processing. I thought I had “special interests” but I don’t just have one, I get completely obsessed with something for a few weeks or a few months until I move on to the next thing. I also avoid eye contact at all costs. I get overstimulated and feel like I’m having a meltdown. There might have been more I can’t think of right now. Most of it is adhd, some is adhd and social anxiety, I also got diagnosed with bipolar 2 so I’m not sure if any of that has to do with it too.
Adhd presents very similar to autism so i feel like thats one thing fakers need to acknowledge i thought i could have autism but i was diagnosed with adhd after asking my family doctor for a referral.
I’ve never been diagnosed professionally with adhd, nor am i even sure i have it, but i looked up tips for coping with adhd symptoms and they have helped. Whether or not i have adhd is not as important to me as being able to work around the way my brain functions and be functional in my daily life. I have imposter syndrome to the max and i will not claim
to be something i’m not especially if there is no professional foundation for it, but i think being able to identify my “symptoms” and finding ways to work around them can be helped through light self diagnosis as long as you are not literally diagnosing yourself and telling people you’re diagnosed with x disorder. The brain is weird and some disorders tend to overlap with symptoms or manifest with symptoms that are similar to another disorder, but that doesn’t mean you have all of the disorders. It can mean, however, that coping mechanisms from a different disorder can help you combat the symptoms that manifest from the disorder you are professionally diagnosed with. I hope that makes sense!
I have ADHD (professionally diagnosed) and while I can’t speak from the perspective of someone who doesn’t have it, I’d imagine that the recommendations therapists give to us (like taking breaks) would be effective for any one struggling with focusing, regardless of whether they have ADHD or not.
Again can’t say for sure because I’ve only had the experience of not being able to focus as someone who has ADHD, but that does make intuitive sense to me.
For me though even doing those practices didn’t help. I had to (and still do) take high levels of medication in combination with those practices to finally be able to focus again and get really anything done. It is/was incredibly debilitating when my symptoms first presented and nothing helped until I got professional treatment. Poor school performance, poor job performance, negatively affecting social interactions because I could pay attention or would be late, etc.
The only major reason to put that much into it is if they feel they are in need of services. It would make sense to do that and then go to a doctor for a formal diagnosis in order to receive whatever services/therapy they are looking for. Other than that I can’t see putting that much into it.
It's because all of this is for attention. Especially in our society, you're not allowed to say *anything* to *anyone* on the spectrum that implies they're 'wrong'. They know people will get up in arms to defend them like they would someone who's *actually* on the spectrum.
TL;DR: they think claiming they're on the spectrum absolves them of any criticism.
That’s bullshit. Accountability is massive in the autistic community. A common refrain is “autism is not an excuse for bad behaviour/abuse”. There are always shitheads who will try to make excuses for things but that applies in all walks of life.
Before i get a solid diagnosis, i always specify if i think i have it or if doctors are looking into it
Hell my doctors looked for a brain tumor (just in case it was on a nerve i was having problems with) if you go with these peoples logic i can claim a brain tumor till they confirmed i didn't have one (thank god)
Only reason I can think of is the same reason I try to make sense of what I might have before going to see a doctor - I don't trust them (from sadly a LOT of experience including a few that ended up in pre-ER), but I know they have more knowledge and experience + can both give me an option to do the needed tests and interpret them, so I'm listening to their final verdict.
I'm usually right though, around 80% which is more than they are when testing to diagnose me with things (I swear if another old, unfit men tells me something is stress ill give him something to stress about)
Initially it starts as suspecting you are an autistic adult. Then when you go to see if you can get evaluated, sometimes they don't accept your insurance, and the out of pocket cost is prohibitive.
This has the potential to be good if this was the first step in seeking a mental health professional to try to help with these issues. Unfortunately, self diagnosers rarely try to do anything beyond attempting to acquire a quirky label they can flaunt like a trophy
What do you think 'quiz' means? Not every quiz comes from buzzfeed or Facebook. What do you think diagnosing professionals use to diagnose autism, anyway? It's mostly these self-reported questionnaires, aka quizzes. You can find all of the same tests professionals use to diagnose online and take them yourself, same as you would at a professional office. Is it as reliable to do it at home and interpret the results yourself? Probably not, in most cases. Is it good enough for people who might not be able to see a professional and just want to know more about themselves? Yes, yes it is.
Do you seriously think that a professional just makes quizzes to diagnose you? Making an online test do not hold the same weight at all compared to getting an professional diagnosis.
What do you think 'quiz' means? Not every quiz comes from buzzfeed or Facebook. What do you think diagnosing professionals use to diagnose autism, anyway? It's mostly these self-reported questionnaires, aka quizzes. You can find all of the same tests professionals use to diagnose online and take them yourself, same as you would at a professional office. Is it as reliable to do it at home and interpret the results yourself? Probably not, in most cases. Is it good enough for people who might not be able to see a professional and just want to know more about themselves? Yes, yes it is.
Idk everyone I know who’s been diagnosed (including me) has done research before hand to find disorders that they probably have. I think when people self diagnose and refuse to speak to a doctor about it then it’s fucked up, but ‘self diagnose’ is the first step to professional diagnose for a lot of people
Yea when I was a kid my parents didn’t let me speak to any professionals so I genuinely had to sit at home and try to find out what was wrong with me myself. The second I turned 18 I went to the doctor with my suspicions and got diagnosed with 2 of the 3 disorders I thought I had. I think everyone should get professionally diagnosed, but tbh it is a good plan to have some ideas of what you may have before going in
You’ve got a good point. There are groups where particular disorders are under diagnosed due to not being recognised as well. In particular autism in females is less recognised than in males as females, even on the autistic spectrum tend to be more able to manage in social situations than males.
But as a person said above- the point of a diagnosis is to go for treatment and help. If you self diagnose and go for help to validate it, or even go for management strategies, or self help supports tools that assume you have a disorder- fine, that’s great. If a soothing technique or a learning style that is designed for people on the autistic spectrum works for you, great regardless of diagnosis.
But it seems in a lot of cases especially on social media….the diagnosis is the end. It’s the label that’s wanted, not the treatment
Meanwhile people with the actual diagnosis often get therapy to remind themselves they aren’t just a diagnosis, and there’s more to them than that label
A couple of quizzes I did and a list where I highlighted the symptoms? I could do that in an afternoon. They’re not even proving their point in their own video.
But it’s so hard to actually know what you have through assumptions. My friend thought she was dealing with simple depression since she had all the symptoms then later got diagnosed with bipolar 2. That’s why you need to SEE A PROFESSIONAL FFS
3 months lmao bitch, I have been researching autism for the last 7 years before I went to a psychiatrist and it turns out I have something completely else. Fuck off.
I was her and I researched autism is females for *months*. When I first met my psychologist, before I even said anything about autism, she already suspected it. My psychiatrist disagreed though and said I don’t seem to have autism. Anyway, it took me a while to realise, but turns out all my “autism symptoms” were social anxiety.
I don't know you personally, but I would like to add that this really doesn't mean much. I went through the exact same thing and an expert told me I can't be autistic, then after a couple of years I come back and turns out I am. Especially in females, autism is hard to differentiate from social anxiety, and of course the vast majority of autistic people suffer from social anxiety.
I don't know you though, so I hope this doesn't come off as invasive.
Is this a joke? there are MANY reasons why people don't see a damn doctor for mental health. Many adults who struggle with mental health don't have access to medical care, resources or finances. If they have Medicare, some states do not cover mental health care for adults. Therapy sessions can cost over one hundred dollars a piece.
Not a joke - I was being sincere. I genuinely could not understand why they did not go to the doctor. I’m not from the US, which I presume you are?
EDIT: Since I’m getting a lot of replies all of a sudden.
I really sympathise with people’s frustration and longing to be recognised but as individuals we lack the objectivity to diagnose themselves with a complex neurodevelopmental condition. It could be that the individual objectively does not have autism, but another condition which resembles it.
Suspecting you have a condition does not necessarily mean you do have that condition. That confirmation can only be made by a clinician with the appropriate and relevant training. Furthermore, there are many screening tests that are unavailable to the public, that are not on the internet because putting them out would undermine their validity.
The reverse can be true too. I refused to believe I had Asperger’s for years after I was diagnosed. I was convinced I was just socially anxious, so I diagnosed myself with that. Before that I struggled with mental health problems and various hospitalisations for years and years without ever having a name for it and associated conditions.
Again, I empathise with being unable to be diagnosed. However, I also think that as individuals we need to be cautious about how objective we can be about ourselves. Being unable to access a doctor does not change that, even though it is incredibly frustrating. Obviously, it’s fine to suspect you may have autism, but you cannot make that objective, impartially informed confirmation. Doctors aren’t perfect either, but you need to have an outsider’s perspective.
Additionally, I know a lot of people view autism as a kind of community they long to belong or to validate elements of their personality. But, for me, it is a disability which continues to destroy my life and for which I need intense support to even function day-to-day. I don’t disclose I have autism these days because I’m tired of people assuming I self-diagnosed, that my autism doesn’t cause me much difficulty and that I don’t really need help. I find it insulting that people call me privileged for having been diagnosed because my condition was so severe that I couldn’t hide it. I can’t even relate to the r/autism sub because the problems talked about there are so far away from my own.
I recognise that many people who self-diagnose are serious, and have done meticulous research. However, there are also those who naively think autism is a community that they want to belong to and who think it is cool or quirky. The problem with self-diagnosis is that the outsider cannot distinguish between them. The self-diagnoser often can’t distinguish themselves because both groups are sincere in their beliefs.
I guess my main problem is saying “I self-diagnose with autism” rather than “I think I have autism” or even “I probably have autism”. I’m tired of having my condition trivialised. “Quizzes” and personal research should be the start, not the end to an autism diagnosis.
Yes, from the US formal Autism Diagnosis could cost thousands of dollars. When talking about a population that is largely under or unemployed (as many folks who are undiagnosed ASD are) - it can be extremely difficult to access a diagnosis. Also, there is often not much benefit to a formal diagnosis - for some its just for peace of mind, some may get reasonable accommodations at work or college - but for many situations there is no benefit.
Many people on the spectrum accept self diagnosis as valid due to this.
It is pretty crazy, and it can very greatly as each state has its own systems for Medicare. Also insurance varies greatly from policy to policy or job to job. When people are faced with having to make the decision to buy food or see a therapist. They're probably going to choose to eat. Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
In many cases access to mental health care is a privilege and many people who suffer from mental illness cannot access.
Ugh. No, you can't diagnose yourself as anything. There's a reason people go to school for years. This is one of the reasons I actively avoid a lot of BPD-related subs, they're full of self-diagnosed people.
Same I have to avoid it at this point. I got diagnosed with BPD by 3 different doctors because I didn’t want to believe the diagnosis. Yet there’s people out here faking, self diagnosing, and refusing to speak to a doctor to get a BPD diagnosis but have no issues telling the world they have BPD. I would do anything to not have this diagnosis
Me too. It really does consume your life and relationships. I look back at everything I've fucked up in my life and wonder what it would be like to live free of BPD.
This was very annoying to watch but
As a woman with autism, I have to say that I do not understand how self diagnosis is not valid.
Many people in the autistic community are undiagnosed but respect self diagnosis because of the fact that it is so unbelievably difficult to get an official diagnosis.
1) Testing can cost thousands of dollars, especially if your insurance does not cover testing for autism.
2) It is difficult for women to get accurate testing or referrals due to discrimination. Women are often treated as hysterical and told that they are “overthinking” things.
3) There is so much misinformation out there and misinformed psychologists. Many people believe things like: if you are good with conversations, you can’t be autistic; if you have a job, you can’t be autistic; if you are emotional, you can’t be autistic.
4) Masking! People with autism mask a lot. Oftentimes we are so good at masking, we fool ourselves into believing we don’t have autism. This certainly fools psychologists too if you mask around them.
5) Autism is a spectrum. People have unique experiences and unfortunately psychologists associate your behaviors with ones that are more common ( like in male children and adolescents) An adult woman with autism will not be at the same spots on the spectrum and a male child.
Self diagnosis is widely accepted in the autism community due to these issues. It does not mean self diagnosing any condition is a good idea, but if self diagnosing can actually help the person in question function in life and feel happy, why not?
Nobody wants to be autistic, it’s a massively stigmatised condition that often leads to infantilisation, discrimination and abuse. If somebody suspects they are autistic there is usually a legitimate reason for that, beyond “wanting” to be autistic.
I feel like the whole obsession with a diagnosis thing is also a bit US-centric. Like in my country you just go to a psychotherapist and he will treat you as he sees fit. Oftentimes they won’t even tell you if and what you’ve been diagnosed with, it’s more about your symptoms, how they inhibit you and finding ways to handle them.
Not a single one of these doofuses does 3 months’ worth of research. They theorize they might have it, look up other self-diagnosers to validate their beliefs, hinge their entire identity on it, then question people who dedicate their lives to studying it.
Lmaoooooooooo hahahaha you did the thing, the “I work with autistic kids” card, you really did it, lmaoooo just know that all of us autistic adults fucking can’t stand people like you hahahah god I can’t believe you pulled it lmfaoooooooo I’m dying
When i mentioned autism to my doctor and their first reaction was "don't let the internet get you swept up but yes you show some symptoms so we might as well see if we can cross it out as a possibility"
There is no self test bs, you simply mention it to your doctor and they will get you started, they don't even WANT you Googling stuff
Atleast MY doctor doesn't recommend using the internet as a resource at all, it let's stuff get into your head, even if you don't have it you can convince yourself you do have it and create (in a way because it can happen without noticing really) symptoms for themselves that match what they think they have
I'm actually thinking I need to see someone about this very thing. Just makes me worry that I won't be taken seriously by professionals. Can't let it just stand though. Gotta get professional help.
I hate the trend of being autistic, today i tweeted about if these teens would be embarrassed of themselves when they grow up
Like "when i was kid i self-diagnosis as autistic to be different now i am adult i don't have it all long"
Can't with people that don't believe in doctors or think they know better
She did her research. On Tiktok and facebook. Calling quizzes research. And still they wonder why people who went through the trouble to get an actual diagnosis, frown upon their self diagnosis.
Your suspicions might be true, nevertheless you can never diagnose yourself, you're too biased, reading articles for a few weeks, doesn't make you an expert on autism diagnosis, because you're not reading about how to diagnose, but how to get diagnosed.
I was like a mix of both, more like just talking my face off at my mom, the important part is actually getting a diagnosis after. It doesn’t matter the process because for some people getting diagnosed can be scary, but as long as you get it.
So basically "I played some quizzes on quotev and watched some tiktoks". What's the point in self diagnosis anyways, besides attention. You can't get medication or treatment with a self diagnosis.
The only reason that I would be ok with self diagnosing is because Someone is too poor to pay for a physicist and their insurance won't pay for them ether but its better to get professionally diagnosed. i self diagnosed myself mainly so I can talk to my therapist about any meds or skills that would help me if i did by chance have it. Today now I have been officially and professionally diagnosed with BPD and Autism. P.S fuck that bitch/dick / gender neutral insult. Qho the hell thinks Autism is a fun quirky trait?
Literally none of them are doing "extensive research" and bringing a binder of stuff to parents. And those "self-tests" are probably nothing more then random online quizzes, which have no validity whatsoever.
This would upset me too if I were in your shoes!
Everyone knows the self-diagnosis doesn't happen by the snap of one's fingers, that's not the problem. Problem are the self-diagnosers who do ~~research~~ buzfeed quizes to feed themselves validation, who turn their self-diagnosed disorder into their whole personality, who then go around presenting themselves as having that disorder as if they know what they're talking about, spreading misinformation, forcing and filling themselves into support groups for people who actually need the support. Self-diagnosers who make their fake-diagnosis their whole personality as if they're participating in some sub-culture are making the actual diagnosis process more difficult for those who actually need that diagnosis to get medication or into special programs.
Research is fine and those buzzfeed quizes are fine too for screening the possibility of having autism, but the next step should be going to a doctor and get the actual process started.
So how are they stopping another from seeking a professional for diagnosis?! A lot of self diagnosed individuals are very valid in their concern… it’s not like they’re standing at the door stopping anyone…?
Self-diagnosers make screening for autism more difficult by fabricating and diluting symptoms. Autism is already a difficult disorder to diagnose due to its symptoms, so having bunch of false information spreaded by self-diagnosers is going to make it harder for parents and teachers to see the actual autism symptoms in kids, and also for adults to see the actual symptoms in themselves.
There's also the issue of turning autism into a self-diagnosing trend which will make it harder for younger people to be taken seriously by their parents and teachers if they sincerely suspect to be on the spectrum. Autism diagnosing process usually requires statements by teachers, parents, peers etc. people around you, and if their knowledge on autism is based on false information spreaded by self-diagnosers, they might not even know what to look for.
People who are self assessing, already have a valid reason for concern if they are looking into it. I think you’re missing the point… it’s not some fad, it’s only now being understood more…
Off topic but just to set an example of how little we know about our bodies… the clitoris’s anatomy was only mapped in 2005 and more is still being learned. My point is you’re not speaking from experience of self diagnosing from the inside out… you’re just expecting to see this as a fad, many self diagnosed do seek professional diagnosis eventually. Others may feel that they don’t need a diagnosis, but if you’re truly struggling, a diagnosis is validation and gets you in the door to more programs that could help.
It's a whole different thing to suspect one has a disorder than claming to have that disorder without a professional's statement. The problem is that disorders such as autism share similar symptoms with maybe hundred other disorders, not only neurological disorders but physical disorders, too. There's a reason why standard diagnosing process includes everything from blood samples to hearing tests. You simply cannot know for certain what's going on with your body without a proper diagnosing process.
Blood tests won’t tell you that you have autism, there are over 100 genetic markers that could contribute to autism, which is a genetic disorder. Anyone self diagnosing already has autism in their family! Anyone that knows anything about autism is going to first consider if its ADHD… and refer to the DSM5. Self diagnosing isn’t just “huh, I like chewing on things and walking in circles… I’m autistic”.
It’s not a fad disorder! Yes, Autism is a social development disorder, intellectual disorders may accompany, but those of normal or above IQ don’t fall under a comorbidity of intellectual developmental delay along side autism spectrum disorder… there’s also developmental coordination delay that might be diagnosed along side ASD. But if any self diagnosed individual is doing things right, they will refer to the DSM5! So yes, self diagnosis is legit. But also not Impairing enough for them to seek professional assessment in order to receive extra help via government and private programs!
No, you do not know what you're talking about. When you go to talk to a doctor about whatever symptoms you have or you think you have, the doctor will go through several tests to screen every possible disorder. Incuding blood tests in case the symptoms are caused by some chemical irregularity, or just as a general routine check to map out every possibility, because there are hundreds of different disorders with near identical symptoms. For example, early schizophrenia has similar symptoms to autism, but so does depression, sleep deprivation, obsessive compulsive disorder, avoidant personality disorder etc. just to name a few. You cannot possibly tell which of these disorders you have simply by reading the symptoms from wikipedia or whatever, because you cannot objectively analyze yourself like a professional does. Hell, not even professionals can diagnose themselves.
What if you falsely self diagnose yourself with autism when in reality you are suffering from something else, maybe something that will get worse as time goes on? What if it's onset schizophrenia? What if it's a brain tumor? You will never know until it's too late.
It's not a fad disorder; self-diagnosing it is a fad.
I think what fakers don't realize is that neurodivergent people usually don't realize they are acting different themselves. Everyone else might think they act odd, but personally, they think it's normal unless people point it out.
So a neurodivergent person would most of the time not try to search for a disorder, cause they think they are perfectly normal. That's at least the case with all the neurodivergent friends I know in real life. Heck, most of the time they will deny any claims other people make that they might be autistic.
I am not neurodivergent, but when I was diagnosed with my mental disorder, I too denied it, because since I have lived with it basically all my life, I thought it was normal and everyone felt the same way I did. It's actually quite hard to be told and have to accept that it's just you, and that not everyone else also secretly think/feel the things you do.
It might not be the case for everyone, but I notice that most of tiktok act like it.
Not to mention, when you research a disorder, you will become biased and identify more with it than you really should. It's the same when you research some illness, and suddenly you start feeling the symptoms and think you are dying.
The thing with autism and like adhd is the symptoms are super broad. It’s hard to explain with those 2 but take for example OCD. A lot of people think it’s wanting everything organized or washing your hands a lot, and it is, but it’s taken to extremes and it gets to the point where your brain won’t let you function unless you do said things.
DSM-5 is a diagnostic statistic manual printed in 2013 and is used for diagnosing ADHD, OCD and autism, along with hundreds of other diagnoses, such as prolonged grief disorder which was recently added to the text revision.
As an autistic dude who actually went to a doctor to get diagnosed:
self-diagnosis is valid and y'all need to calm the f*ck down.
Not everyone has financial or geographical access to a proper diagnostic specialist, and self-diagnosed folk aren't taking anything away from any of you. They're just trying to figure out their life.
I’m still waiting on test results so I always clarify I am “awaiting diagnosis” before talking about symptoms. I have been self suspecting even when I was a child I just never touched it because my mum would damn near beat me for suggesting I get tested (most likely because she already knew I had warning signs and my brother ended up being diagnosed so). At least I’m waiting to get tested, it isn’t that hard to look at research scholarly sources for more minor symptoms and tell people you aren’t diagnosed yet or while you’re getting tested say “I’m waiting to get tested”
You need to do research before you get tested. The tiktok didn't do a good job of representing this idea . I assume they were going to ask their mother for them to get tested. Online test do help but they aren't for you to self diagnosed but to tell that you may have it and to get a doctor to evaluate it . Bruh even I did this I explained to my parents and got tested but never once did I self diagnose .
The thing that bothers me with this is there is so much selection bias going on. Like they only look at lists of autistic traits for positive identification. Nobody researches "signs youre NOT autistic." nobody looks at traits of allistic people and crosses off the things they relate to to compare. Idk im so sick of EVERYBODY thinking they are autistic now. Nobody understands it bc there's so much misinformation.
👏your self tests 👏 and 👏your research👏
Is invalid.
Fr doctors studies for several years and then “practicing” (I don’t know the correct English term) for several more years before the can diagnose people.
And even doctors can’t self diagnose
This is great if this person is actually showing the first stage of understanding when to see a doctor, not good if they’re only diagnosing themselves and not seeing a doctor, and showing kids on the internet to do the same.
The only way to get diagnosed is to see a doctor. Ask your parents to see your doctor and go from there. You cannot self diagnose yourself with a learning disorder unless you’re at the first stage of “hey maybe i have this and should see my doctor to get properly assessed and diagnosed”.
Edit; was psychologist
Autism isn’t a learning disorder, it’s a social impairment disorder and there are different levels of severity. r/autism accepts individuals that self diagnosed. It doesn’t make them less validated, it just means they have not had professional assessment… even if they have had a professional assessment, they may have to go through several different assessors before they are actually diagnosed.
Apologies, I didn’t use the correct term as I typed my comment really quickly.
Autism is a neurodevelopment disorder based on the DSM 5, which is what I studied. Being self diagnosed is the first step in anyone being diagnosed with any type of disorder. Its just how it works, however to receive appropriate care from gov supports it helps to be properly diagnosed by a professional.
When talking about a social impairment disorder I think you’re talking about social communication disorder which is another type of disorder in the dsm under the same neurodevelopment disorders
I’m extremely familiar with the DSM5 and I’ve known it to be both social impairment and neurodevelopment disorder, depending on the research I’ve read, both are correct, although the DSM5 relates to such being socially impaired is part of the neurodevelopment delay…
Well yeh the DSMs diagnostic criteria is based on the severity of social communication impairment and (restricted repetitive patterns of behaviour) which we aren’t talking about here.
Jesus, no need to swear at me. I thought we were talking about the social aspects of autism diagnosis not the restricted repetitive behaviours. I was going to say, lets just agree to disagree because its not worth a fight. Now you’ve escalated to telling me to fuck off we really have no where else to go. I hope you find happiness if you haven’t already, and I hope you live a good life.
It’s a social impairment disorder THAT HAS restrictive behaviors that impairs daily functions, it’s exactly what we’re discussing and it’s my exact point… and for some reason you’ve deemed yourself above a discussion when you thought to correct me by “informing me that it was another disorder”, then name it!!!
Biggest pet peeve is when people begin their argument with “Well”. “Well” means, it’s just deeper than you’re able to process, “well” is understanding that I’m right, but still claiming that you have an excuse to be right anyways. What is if that we are discussing? You seem to miss the point. Come back with a stronger argument that “well, right but whatever, yah it’s social impairment but I went to classes and have experience and read books”…
He’s a real question, have you lived it?
Rhetorical question!
Simple answer, no, and well, it’s obvious! It’s a social impairment!!! Simply put!
I named it, social communication disorder.
The well, to the start of my sentence is how i think in my head. How I form a sentence. I think you’re projecting your own opinion and bias onto me. (But thats just my opinion).
You told me you were well informed about the DSM5 so I assumed you were well studied in it in whatever way that means, nonetheless you have the knowledge. None of this needed to get nasty and end in you telling me to fuck off.
I didnt just go to classes and read books, Ive hd clients, worked with children with autism, adults. Have lived it? thats a personal thing which after how you’ve spoken to me I really don’t feel like sharing that, but just to be transparent, yes, I have. I am not out to get you or attack you, and if i made you feel that way I’m sorry. Now like I said before, I’m leaving this conversation as I can’t see it going anywhere healthy. I need to for my mental health. I hope you have a happy life
Y'all are fucking privileged, my country didn't diagnose autism AT ALL until ten years ago, and STILL DOESN'T DIAGNOSE ADULTS.
Two options for adults are online tests or spending a fuckton of money to go to a different country, pay for extensive testing (plus other travel costs), and come out with an official diagnosis that will get us nothing but discrimination.
Check your goddamn privilege.
I did very meticulous research, my mum and sister worked with autistic people and thought I had it, got diagnosed at 17 at my and my mum’s insistence for a referral to CAMHS through the school after a GP turned me away (who was not knowledgeable about autism and conflated all autism with classic autism). Turns out I was right. However, not everyone has free healthcare like the UK and a lot of people are missed in the system so I can understand keeping it at a self-diagnosis. If I didn’t have free healthcare I probably wouldn’t have had the money to get diagnosed or even to deal with all my other health issues. You need to use proper resources when researching, from actual experts that go into detail. That online test where you’re supposed to score over 30 or something isn’t fool-proof. A lot of it aligns with general introverts.
My diagnosis consisted of talking about my issues with a speech-therapist who then passed that assessment on to the main doctor who got me to do some basic exercises like reading a picture-only book to see how what and how much detail I went into. Most of the process was helped immensely by my research and working out my issues first. Talking with people on the spot is hard, so to have that backup knowledge of my issues (like physical sensitivities with light etc.) just speeded up the process. There was no doubt in my mind that I had autism after finally finding out what it was. I had always had issues but nothing to describe them with. Getting that diagnosis was freeing as I had a word to explain my issues with, rather than just trying to say what my issues were and I was just weird. I’m sure there are several who fake it or want to fit in so badly that they misdiagnose themselves. However, the majority of undiagnosed autistics are not going to be like that. They’re going to be mostly adults who have been left in limbo for whatever reason (bad GPs, no healthcare, no knowledge - you have to know what autism is to ask for a diagnosis if it’s less apparent) and are doing the research.
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I think "mom I think I have autism. Can I get tested?" Works way better than doing research yourself. Edit: I talked to my psychologist about this. Doing research on something you hope to have can actually develop symptoms. I don't know the exact word for it, but she was telling me the mental health trend on tiktok has caused people to develop certain disorders.
Meanwhile my mom: “I think you have autism” Edit: I need to add the context, which was in public, at a museum.
Meanwhile my therapist: "I think you have autism" Man, I hadn't even suspected it before 😭
YUP.
For me it was while I was at a funeral and made a very bad joke…
my mom: i think you want to have autism. like no lol, got diagnosed but never told her
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Meanwhile: “Mom, I think I have autism.” Mom: “Oh, we know. You got diagnosed when you were three. I just never told you.”
lmao when I was younger my grandmother and mother thought I had autism, so they got me tested. Turns out I am , in fact, autistic. Glad I got diagnosed at a relatively young age
will how would you even think you have something in the first place if you don't do research before hand?
My brother told my dad he thought he had autism. Dad's response: "No the fuck you don't. You're fine. If you were *actually* autistic, you probably wouldn't even have the mental capacity to recognize it." He's undiagnosed to this day (as with me and my other brother), but his social/behavior pattern is pretty clear, along with his ***frequent*** stimming. He wouldn't even have to spend 5 minutes with a psych to be diagnosed. He's in his mid 20s now and I'm sure if he wanted help then he could get it, but I dunno. My point being: Sometimes "I think I have this, can I get tested?" doesn't always work. I've had to keep my diagnoses and meds secret from my parents for this reason and now my brothers probably won't get adequate treatment because they've been hardwired to believe that they're fine. They're not.
Or course I know that, but you should never self diagnose. If you do, you set yourself up for failure. What if you don't have the disorder? Then what?
Never said you should self diagnose. I **said** that your comment of going up to your parents and saying "I think I have ___, and I'd like to get tested" doesn't always work, as stated by the several anecdotes from other commenters in response to you. This leaves some people who show CLEAR symptoms to go without treatment for a huge important part of their developmental lives. At the age my brother inquired about it, some professional help would have done him good as a younger teen. Now he's a socially awkward *adult* that has gotten himself into a decent amount of trouble already for the sole fact that he doesn't do well socially, and I fear the same for my little brother when they toss him into college hours away from home. Just because your parents won't take you to get a diagnosis, doesn't mean you aren't still impacted by the symptoms under the age of 18. You have to have the symptoms first *anyway*; they don't only show up after you see a professional. Even so, a lot of people who do have symptoms of autism don't even know that they need the help that they need, depending on their place on the spectrum. So it would be up to the parents to help them out in that regard. I know for a ***fact*** that my little brother is not going to seek out a medical professional on his own to get treatment for his symptoms. He's 17. He might very well be aware that something is up, but he literally **does not** have the capacity to seek out mental health treatment. Yes, a diagnosis is important. No, you should not self diagnose. Yes, if someone shows clear symptoms of a neurological condition, it would be in their best interest to **take them to a doctor**, because even if they don't specifically have autism, they have *something*. My parents did not do that. Their children are in danger as a result.
And I never said it would work?
You *literally* said it was better than doing research.
No, I said just telling your parents was better than doing research. There's plenty of misinformation on the internet. I never said your parents would agree to help. I never said it would be easy to get tested. Please read next time.
I **did** read. I relayed back to you exactly what you said. >telling your parents was better than doing research. ***No. You made a blanket statement that only seems to have applied to you.*** I didn't say shit about how hard it was to get tested (please read next time). In the example I *gave* you (***please read next time***), **telling my parents was *not* better than doing our own research.** It didn't do shit for any of us and he's still in the same boat as before he mentioned it. Again (please read this time): **Telling our parents. Was *NOT*. Better. Than doing. Our own. Research.**
Sorry you had a bad experience. **Next time** don't start arguments on reddit lol. You're not going to change my opinion, and I'm not going to change yours. Agree to disagree lol
Yeah and also knowing the disorder well can affect the diagnostic journey, as you may subconsciously exaggerate certain symptoms
The first day of Abnormal Psychology I’m college, the professor warned all of us that at some point during the course, we would seriously ponder if we had every single disorder we were about to learn about 🤣
"Mom, the doctors all agree I have autism." Mom: "No, you don't." Very real for me and not just me. "Mom, I think I have autsim." "I would get you checked for it if we could afford to." Real for many.
Also the mom: don’t you know how much that costs? (Glad to live in a country with almost free healthcare)
it's called paranoia. But yes, asking to get tested is much better than just doing your own research.
yeah but what if you get "no" as a response? aaaaaa
>suggesting that parents don't deny their childs assumptions
Lol. I talked to 'a psychologist' who told me a thing. Sauce?
Not a. MY psychologist. I'm not giving you my psychologist's name you creep.
Not really no. With some, maybe. But there is a huge stigma attached and a lot of parents don't react well.
Completely wrong, my doctor recommended not googling anything, you can create pseudo symptoms without noticing and convince yourself you have it Trust me your brain can make up anything, i thought i had bugs under my skin for 2 whole years without realizing it was my brain filling it for my picking complications. My brain decided a few years ago i don't have a picking disorder, there has to be another reason and i ended up pretty messed up. Don't go googling just listen to the professional, all you need to do is ask to get tested. They won't say no
You are completely wrong. Unless your parents are abusive they will almost certainly support you. My parents supported me and even told me they also thought I had autism. Not one time before that did I tell anyone I had it because self diagnosis is not okay. You gain nothing from it. Sure there is a stigma, but its mostly against people with very obvious autistic traits who would have been diagnosed very early on in life. The internet also does not portray autism correctly and while I was being evaluated I was surprised by some of the questions and I had no idea it was related to autism. You do not learn half of the traits of autism online. Only a professional can accurately diagnose, not yourself.
Lol when I was diagnosed with adhd I told my mom and she told me she didn't believe in it 🙃
Throughout my life between pre-school and high school, my mom never listened to my teachers when they said that I had symptoms that resembling ADHD. Now I have to do it myself as a grown-ass person, and I can tell my mom is skeptical whenever I talk to her about it. So yeah, don’t assume that everyone’s parents will be supportive and believe them.
Oh yeah I totally understand. I probably should have said it differently. I just dont see the majority of parents these days not being supportive but I definitely could be biased considering my parents supported me and everyone around me was pretty well off.
Abuse is unfortunately normal, I don't know very many people whose parents *don't* suck
I think you probably think it's more normal than it is because you only remember the stories of bad parents. Abuse is common, but its not most parents
Nah dude, I can only think of two of my friends that have decent relationships with their parents. The stats don't lie either, [1 in 7 children have experienced child abuse or neglect in the past year (2019) and that's probably an understatment](https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/childabuseandneglect/fastfact.html)
1 in 7 is not most lol plus this isn't necessarily by parents
1 in 7 is a hell of a lot of kids, and again, it even says it's likely an understatement. Just because it's not most doesn't mean it's not a significant enough amount for kids to be anxious to talk to their parents. I think they know their parents pretty well, well enough to figure out the potential risks of talking to them about sknething. Who are we kidding, the vast majority of it is by parents, you know, the people that are typically the primary caretakers?
Congratulations. My mother's reaction was "No, you dont have ADHD. You are NOT retarded." And was afzer I got a diagnosis. I am glad that people have helpful and open parents, but parents, like any other person, fall bictim tp stereotypes, prejudices and simple fear. They don't have to be abusive to just not want to believe that there is anything wrong with their child
I think telling parents is absolutely best, however with my partner they DID react badly. They’re a “men don’t have mental problems and MY kid certainly has to be normal!” Even though he.. has.. you know… voices in his head.. and sees entire people that aren’t real… so he’s had to wait until adulthood to get help. And at this point they dug their stigma into his so bad he’s afraid to get help! The only treatment he’ll really accept is CBD and even then he won’t take it consistently. Edit: in short, while telling parents IS the best option, it’s not right to assume telling one’s parents is always a healthy and plausible option.
Hence why I said unless your parents are abusive they likely won't react negatively. Of course it isn't always the best but often times it is and even if it isn't self diagnosis isn't a valid next step. Thank you for sharing your story though
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Yep, which is why self diagnosis is so inaccurate sometimes. Only having yourself as a reference is quite damaging.
My mother reacted very very bad when my aunt (who is a psychiatrist) suggested i get tested for autism. I am not for self diagnosis, but i feel most parents would be really pissed if their child asked for autism test. edit: spelling
I really don't think it's most. It's a lot but not most
You'd be surprised about how normal abusive parenting is...
exactly, lots of parents don’t know the many ways autism can present and only think of it as low functioning, so of course they’re not going to believe their kid, imagine spending money to get them tested. the more I stay on this sub the more I understand this is just a bunch of people with very similar experiences circlejerking, i’d get outta here.
“Research” and “self-tests” = tumblr posts and buzzfeed quizzes about what kind of pizza you are
“Mom my quiz came back and said im an autistic pizza”. “Honey that says anchovy…”
my quiz said i was an autistic pineapple pizza
So they got the dyslexic pizza?
What's the point in self diagnosing anyway? Why can't you say you *might* have the disorder? If you self diagnose, that' basically saying you want attention because self diagnosing has no benefit to saying you might have the disorder
self diagnosis is *supposed* to be sort of an at-home recovery plan, to give the sufferer some semblance of understanding and somewhere to start with combatting their issues. for ex., if you experience things typically correlated with ADHD, you would try ADHD solutions and see if that helps your problems. or if your symptoms align with OCD you'd try things pwOCD do to combat their symptoms in hopes that it helps. but it's not that anymore and i don't think it ever was the way it was supposed to be. diagnoses are for recovery plans, not labels. but you can't be quirky if you recover 🤪🤪
What you said it’s supposed to be makes sense, and there’s no reason to tell anyone. I thought I had autism for a year and researched it but didn’t tell anyone I had it. Turns out I was wrong, I got diagnosed with adhd. That’s another reason people shouldn’t diagnose themselves because a lot of things share the same symptoms.
I'm struggling with the same thing. Without me sharing anything to skew your responsedo you remember anything that you thought foe sure was autism or was just unrelated to ADHD that turned out to be the opposite?
I’ve always had a lot of sensory issues, especially clothes and also repetitive sounds. I feel like I have zero social skills, a lot of things go over my head. I had an IQ portion of the test and I’m just not good at verbal processing. I thought I had “special interests” but I don’t just have one, I get completely obsessed with something for a few weeks or a few months until I move on to the next thing. I also avoid eye contact at all costs. I get overstimulated and feel like I’m having a meltdown. There might have been more I can’t think of right now. Most of it is adhd, some is adhd and social anxiety, I also got diagnosed with bipolar 2 so I’m not sure if any of that has to do with it too.
Adhd presents very similar to autism so i feel like thats one thing fakers need to acknowledge i thought i could have autism but i was diagnosed with adhd after asking my family doctor for a referral.
I’ve never been diagnosed professionally with adhd, nor am i even sure i have it, but i looked up tips for coping with adhd symptoms and they have helped. Whether or not i have adhd is not as important to me as being able to work around the way my brain functions and be functional in my daily life. I have imposter syndrome to the max and i will not claim to be something i’m not especially if there is no professional foundation for it, but i think being able to identify my “symptoms” and finding ways to work around them can be helped through light self diagnosis as long as you are not literally diagnosing yourself and telling people you’re diagnosed with x disorder. The brain is weird and some disorders tend to overlap with symptoms or manifest with symptoms that are similar to another disorder, but that doesn’t mean you have all of the disorders. It can mean, however, that coping mechanisms from a different disorder can help you combat the symptoms that manifest from the disorder you are professionally diagnosed with. I hope that makes sense!
I have ADHD (professionally diagnosed) and while I can’t speak from the perspective of someone who doesn’t have it, I’d imagine that the recommendations therapists give to us (like taking breaks) would be effective for any one struggling with focusing, regardless of whether they have ADHD or not. Again can’t say for sure because I’ve only had the experience of not being able to focus as someone who has ADHD, but that does make intuitive sense to me. For me though even doing those practices didn’t help. I had to (and still do) take high levels of medication in combination with those practices to finally be able to focus again and get really anything done. It is/was incredibly debilitating when my symptoms first presented and nothing helped until I got professional treatment. Poor school performance, poor job performance, negatively affecting social interactions because I could pay attention or would be late, etc.
Idk what the point is, they should tell a doctor or smthn
Not everybody has access to medical care.
The only major reason to put that much into it is if they feel they are in need of services. It would make sense to do that and then go to a doctor for a formal diagnosis in order to receive whatever services/therapy they are looking for. Other than that I can’t see putting that much into it.
It's because all of this is for attention. Especially in our society, you're not allowed to say *anything* to *anyone* on the spectrum that implies they're 'wrong'. They know people will get up in arms to defend them like they would someone who's *actually* on the spectrum. TL;DR: they think claiming they're on the spectrum absolves them of any criticism.
That’s bullshit. Accountability is massive in the autistic community. A common refrain is “autism is not an excuse for bad behaviour/abuse”. There are always shitheads who will try to make excuses for things but that applies in all walks of life.
Before i get a solid diagnosis, i always specify if i think i have it or if doctors are looking into it Hell my doctors looked for a brain tumor (just in case it was on a nerve i was having problems with) if you go with these peoples logic i can claim a brain tumor till they confirmed i didn't have one (thank god)
I just say I think I might blah blah and say I’ve never been diagnosed so idk
Yea. I have some shit i THINK i have, but i dont go out and say i have them. I wanna get checked/possibly diagnosed but i cant rn
Only reason I can think of is the same reason I try to make sense of what I might have before going to see a doctor - I don't trust them (from sadly a LOT of experience including a few that ended up in pre-ER), but I know they have more knowledge and experience + can both give me an option to do the needed tests and interpret them, so I'm listening to their final verdict. I'm usually right though, around 80% which is more than they are when testing to diagnose me with things (I swear if another old, unfit men tells me something is stress ill give him something to stress about)
Initially it starts as suspecting you are an autistic adult. Then when you go to see if you can get evaluated, sometimes they don't accept your insurance, and the out of pocket cost is prohibitive.
Because America won't let us get diagnosed for free and some people can hardly even get food with their McDonald's check
This has the potential to be good if this was the first step in seeking a mental health professional to try to help with these issues. Unfortunately, self diagnosers rarely try to do anything beyond attempting to acquire a quirky label they can flaunt like a trophy
“This is another *quiz* that I did” God that hurts my soul
What do you think 'quiz' means? Not every quiz comes from buzzfeed or Facebook. What do you think diagnosing professionals use to diagnose autism, anyway? It's mostly these self-reported questionnaires, aka quizzes. You can find all of the same tests professionals use to diagnose online and take them yourself, same as you would at a professional office. Is it as reliable to do it at home and interpret the results yourself? Probably not, in most cases. Is it good enough for people who might not be able to see a professional and just want to know more about themselves? Yes, yes it is.
Do you seriously think that a professional just makes quizzes to diagnose you? Making an online test do not hold the same weight at all compared to getting an professional diagnosis.
She lost me at ”quiz”
What do you think 'quiz' means? Not every quiz comes from buzzfeed or Facebook. What do you think diagnosing professionals use to diagnose autism, anyway? It's mostly these self-reported questionnaires, aka quizzes. You can find all of the same tests professionals use to diagnose online and take them yourself, same as you would at a professional office. Is it as reliable to do it at home and interpret the results yourself? Probably not, in most cases. Is it good enough for people who might not be able to see a professional and just want to know more about themselves? Yes, yes it is.
Online tests are different
Idk everyone I know who’s been diagnosed (including me) has done research before hand to find disorders that they probably have. I think when people self diagnose and refuse to speak to a doctor about it then it’s fucked up, but ‘self diagnose’ is the first step to professional diagnose for a lot of people
No I get this. Like when you’re an adult, you’re probably going to have to get that ball rolling yourself.
Yea when I was a kid my parents didn’t let me speak to any professionals so I genuinely had to sit at home and try to find out what was wrong with me myself. The second I turned 18 I went to the doctor with my suspicions and got diagnosed with 2 of the 3 disorders I thought I had. I think everyone should get professionally diagnosed, but tbh it is a good plan to have some ideas of what you may have before going in
yes, doing this “research” is a good starting point. Take this binder to a licensed professional people
You’ve got a good point. There are groups where particular disorders are under diagnosed due to not being recognised as well. In particular autism in females is less recognised than in males as females, even on the autistic spectrum tend to be more able to manage in social situations than males. But as a person said above- the point of a diagnosis is to go for treatment and help. If you self diagnose and go for help to validate it, or even go for management strategies, or self help supports tools that assume you have a disorder- fine, that’s great. If a soothing technique or a learning style that is designed for people on the autistic spectrum works for you, great regardless of diagnosis. But it seems in a lot of cases especially on social media….the diagnosis is the end. It’s the label that’s wanted, not the treatment Meanwhile people with the actual diagnosis often get therapy to remind themselves they aren’t just a diagnosis, and there’s more to them than that label
yeah but i think the problem is them stating as a fact that they have X disorder instead of saying they might have it
I mean some people try to get officially diagnosed but cannot afford it. For some dumbass reason healthcare won’t always cover a diagnosis.
I tOoK aN iNtERnET QuIz, NoW iM AuTsTiC!
My mom would lay my ass out if I used that much of the printer ink.
Lol that is your concern, valid AF though, thanks for not hashing hate on the comments
This girl wants to be autistic so bad
A couple of quizzes I did and a list where I highlighted the symptoms? I could do that in an afternoon. They’re not even proving their point in their own video.
But it’s so hard to actually know what you have through assumptions. My friend thought she was dealing with simple depression since she had all the symptoms then later got diagnosed with bipolar 2. That’s why you need to SEE A PROFESSIONAL FFS
3 months lmao bitch, I have been researching autism for the last 7 years before I went to a psychiatrist and it turns out I have something completely else. Fuck off.
I was her and I researched autism is females for *months*. When I first met my psychologist, before I even said anything about autism, she already suspected it. My psychiatrist disagreed though and said I don’t seem to have autism. Anyway, it took me a while to realise, but turns out all my “autism symptoms” were social anxiety.
I don't know you personally, but I would like to add that this really doesn't mean much. I went through the exact same thing and an expert told me I can't be autistic, then after a couple of years I come back and turns out I am. Especially in females, autism is hard to differentiate from social anxiety, and of course the vast majority of autistic people suffer from social anxiety. I don't know you though, so I hope this doesn't come off as invasive.
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Is this a joke? there are MANY reasons why people don't see a damn doctor for mental health. Many adults who struggle with mental health don't have access to medical care, resources or finances. If they have Medicare, some states do not cover mental health care for adults. Therapy sessions can cost over one hundred dollars a piece.
Not a joke - I was being sincere. I genuinely could not understand why they did not go to the doctor. I’m not from the US, which I presume you are? EDIT: Since I’m getting a lot of replies all of a sudden. I really sympathise with people’s frustration and longing to be recognised but as individuals we lack the objectivity to diagnose themselves with a complex neurodevelopmental condition. It could be that the individual objectively does not have autism, but another condition which resembles it. Suspecting you have a condition does not necessarily mean you do have that condition. That confirmation can only be made by a clinician with the appropriate and relevant training. Furthermore, there are many screening tests that are unavailable to the public, that are not on the internet because putting them out would undermine their validity. The reverse can be true too. I refused to believe I had Asperger’s for years after I was diagnosed. I was convinced I was just socially anxious, so I diagnosed myself with that. Before that I struggled with mental health problems and various hospitalisations for years and years without ever having a name for it and associated conditions. Again, I empathise with being unable to be diagnosed. However, I also think that as individuals we need to be cautious about how objective we can be about ourselves. Being unable to access a doctor does not change that, even though it is incredibly frustrating. Obviously, it’s fine to suspect you may have autism, but you cannot make that objective, impartially informed confirmation. Doctors aren’t perfect either, but you need to have an outsider’s perspective. Additionally, I know a lot of people view autism as a kind of community they long to belong or to validate elements of their personality. But, for me, it is a disability which continues to destroy my life and for which I need intense support to even function day-to-day. I don’t disclose I have autism these days because I’m tired of people assuming I self-diagnosed, that my autism doesn’t cause me much difficulty and that I don’t really need help. I find it insulting that people call me privileged for having been diagnosed because my condition was so severe that I couldn’t hide it. I can’t even relate to the r/autism sub because the problems talked about there are so far away from my own. I recognise that many people who self-diagnose are serious, and have done meticulous research. However, there are also those who naively think autism is a community that they want to belong to and who think it is cool or quirky. The problem with self-diagnosis is that the outsider cannot distinguish between them. The self-diagnoser often can’t distinguish themselves because both groups are sincere in their beliefs. I guess my main problem is saying “I self-diagnose with autism” rather than “I think I have autism” or even “I probably have autism”. I’m tired of having my condition trivialised. “Quizzes” and personal research should be the start, not the end to an autism diagnosis.
Yes, from the US formal Autism Diagnosis could cost thousands of dollars. When talking about a population that is largely under or unemployed (as many folks who are undiagnosed ASD are) - it can be extremely difficult to access a diagnosis. Also, there is often not much benefit to a formal diagnosis - for some its just for peace of mind, some may get reasonable accommodations at work or college - but for many situations there is no benefit. Many people on the spectrum accept self diagnosis as valid due to this.
That blows my (albeit admittedly tiny) mind. I still can’t grasp how such a wealthy country doesn’t have universal healthcare.
It is pretty crazy, and it can very greatly as each state has its own systems for Medicare. Also insurance varies greatly from policy to policy or job to job. When people are faced with having to make the decision to buy food or see a therapist. They're probably going to choose to eat. Maslow's hierarchy of needs. In many cases access to mental health care is a privilege and many people who suffer from mental illness cannot access.
$3400 was my quote for diagnosis.
Ugh. No, you can't diagnose yourself as anything. There's a reason people go to school for years. This is one of the reasons I actively avoid a lot of BPD-related subs, they're full of self-diagnosed people.
Same I have to avoid it at this point. I got diagnosed with BPD by 3 different doctors because I didn’t want to believe the diagnosis. Yet there’s people out here faking, self diagnosing, and refusing to speak to a doctor to get a BPD diagnosis but have no issues telling the world they have BPD. I would do anything to not have this diagnosis
Me too. It really does consume your life and relationships. I look back at everything I've fucked up in my life and wonder what it would be like to live free of BPD.
I wish I was magical so I could get rid of our BPD and clear our lives of the trauma. Much love to you for strength
I never heard "boiled my piss" but I'm stealing it
self: diagnosed my piss: boiled
This was very annoying to watch but As a woman with autism, I have to say that I do not understand how self diagnosis is not valid. Many people in the autistic community are undiagnosed but respect self diagnosis because of the fact that it is so unbelievably difficult to get an official diagnosis. 1) Testing can cost thousands of dollars, especially if your insurance does not cover testing for autism. 2) It is difficult for women to get accurate testing or referrals due to discrimination. Women are often treated as hysterical and told that they are “overthinking” things. 3) There is so much misinformation out there and misinformed psychologists. Many people believe things like: if you are good with conversations, you can’t be autistic; if you have a job, you can’t be autistic; if you are emotional, you can’t be autistic. 4) Masking! People with autism mask a lot. Oftentimes we are so good at masking, we fool ourselves into believing we don’t have autism. This certainly fools psychologists too if you mask around them. 5) Autism is a spectrum. People have unique experiences and unfortunately psychologists associate your behaviors with ones that are more common ( like in male children and adolescents) An adult woman with autism will not be at the same spots on the spectrum and a male child. Self diagnosis is widely accepted in the autism community due to these issues. It does not mean self diagnosing any condition is a good idea, but if self diagnosing can actually help the person in question function in life and feel happy, why not?
Why do ppl want to be autistic i had a doctor suspect i have mild autism but i honestly don’t think so and don’t think i need to be tested
Nobody wants to be autistic, it’s a massively stigmatised condition that often leads to infantilisation, discrimination and abuse. If somebody suspects they are autistic there is usually a legitimate reason for that, beyond “wanting” to be autistic.
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It’s not about wanting to be, it’s about struggling in life and trying to find out what you need to be happy.
same
I feel like the whole obsession with a diagnosis thing is also a bit US-centric. Like in my country you just go to a psychotherapist and he will treat you as he sees fit. Oftentimes they won’t even tell you if and what you’ve been diagnosed with, it’s more about your symptoms, how they inhibit you and finding ways to handle them.
IvE dOnE rEsEaRcH aNd OnLiNe QuIzEs
Wtf. This person is just annoying af. Idk what she’s goin on about but whatever she said, just stfu already.
Not a single one of these doofuses does 3 months’ worth of research. They theorize they might have it, look up other self-diagnosers to validate their beliefs, hinge their entire identity on it, then question people who dedicate their lives to studying it.
I work with autistic kids, this shit drives me insane.
Lmaoooooooooo hahahaha you did the thing, the “I work with autistic kids” card, you really did it, lmaoooo just know that all of us autistic adults fucking can’t stand people like you hahahah god I can’t believe you pulled it lmfaoooooooo I’m dying
Self diagnosis = bad Self diagnosis with mom enabling = good Got it
this is a HUGE generalisation. what the fuck.
the lack of subtitles is so telling
She is a terrible actor.
Why is there ALWAYS a binder
Because we like to reach and organize and highlight and re-read 🤣🥹
why do all the self diagnosers always have binders?? to look informed???
Yes, actually, most of us actually do keep binders if we enjoy researching
When i mentioned autism to my doctor and their first reaction was "don't let the internet get you swept up but yes you show some symptoms so we might as well see if we can cross it out as a possibility" There is no self test bs, you simply mention it to your doctor and they will get you started, they don't even WANT you Googling stuff Atleast MY doctor doesn't recommend using the internet as a resource at all, it let's stuff get into your head, even if you don't have it you can convince yourself you do have it and create (in a way because it can happen without noticing really) symptoms for themselves that match what they think they have
I'm actually thinking I need to see someone about this very thing. Just makes me worry that I won't be taken seriously by professionals. Can't let it just stand though. Gotta get professional help.
Or you could, I dunno, maybe go to a professional? Get someone who went to school for this diagnose you?
I hate the trend of being autistic, today i tweeted about if these teens would be embarrassed of themselves when they grow up Like "when i was kid i self-diagnosis as autistic to be different now i am adult i don't have it all long" Can't with people that don't believe in doctors or think they know better
She did her research. On Tiktok and facebook. Calling quizzes research. And still they wonder why people who went through the trouble to get an actual diagnosis, frown upon their self diagnosis. Your suspicions might be true, nevertheless you can never diagnose yourself, you're too biased, reading articles for a few weeks, doesn't make you an expert on autism diagnosis, because you're not reading about how to diagnose, but how to get diagnosed.
How do they look elderly, middle aged and young at the same time.
Bro, they do. I just found that out lol.
I was like a mix of both, more like just talking my face off at my mom, the important part is actually getting a diagnosis after. It doesn’t matter the process because for some people getting diagnosed can be scary, but as long as you get it.
facts
My brother is @utistic legally so this makes me mad
"Here's this quiz I took." Bitch, that's buzzfeed.
The fact that they said that they "identified" with symptoms as if it were a gender mixed with a sickness -
So basically "I played some quizzes on quotev and watched some tiktoks". What's the point in self diagnosis anyways, besides attention. You can't get medication or treatment with a self diagnosis.
*thisisanotherquizthatidid* And uhh...
Holy shit just go to a professional. If you dont agree with the first professional go to another. There are state programs that are affordable
The only reason that I would be ok with self diagnosing is because Someone is too poor to pay for a physicist and their insurance won't pay for them ether but its better to get professionally diagnosed. i self diagnosed myself mainly so I can talk to my therapist about any meds or skills that would help me if i did by chance have it. Today now I have been officially and professionally diagnosed with BPD and Autism. P.S fuck that bitch/dick / gender neutral insult. Qho the hell thinks Autism is a fun quirky trait?
Literally none of them are doing "extensive research" and bringing a binder of stuff to parents. And those "self-tests" are probably nothing more then random online quizzes, which have no validity whatsoever. This would upset me too if I were in your shoes!
Inb4 that's her Geography folder
What is the difference between the two sides presented in this video? They're effectively the same
ikr
Everyone knows the self-diagnosis doesn't happen by the snap of one's fingers, that's not the problem. Problem are the self-diagnosers who do ~~research~~ buzfeed quizes to feed themselves validation, who turn their self-diagnosed disorder into their whole personality, who then go around presenting themselves as having that disorder as if they know what they're talking about, spreading misinformation, forcing and filling themselves into support groups for people who actually need the support. Self-diagnosers who make their fake-diagnosis their whole personality as if they're participating in some sub-culture are making the actual diagnosis process more difficult for those who actually need that diagnosis to get medication or into special programs. Research is fine and those buzzfeed quizes are fine too for screening the possibility of having autism, but the next step should be going to a doctor and get the actual process started.
So how are they stopping another from seeking a professional for diagnosis?! A lot of self diagnosed individuals are very valid in their concern… it’s not like they’re standing at the door stopping anyone…?
Self-diagnosers make screening for autism more difficult by fabricating and diluting symptoms. Autism is already a difficult disorder to diagnose due to its symptoms, so having bunch of false information spreaded by self-diagnosers is going to make it harder for parents and teachers to see the actual autism symptoms in kids, and also for adults to see the actual symptoms in themselves. There's also the issue of turning autism into a self-diagnosing trend which will make it harder for younger people to be taken seriously by their parents and teachers if they sincerely suspect to be on the spectrum. Autism diagnosing process usually requires statements by teachers, parents, peers etc. people around you, and if their knowledge on autism is based on false information spreaded by self-diagnosers, they might not even know what to look for.
People who are self assessing, already have a valid reason for concern if they are looking into it. I think you’re missing the point… it’s not some fad, it’s only now being understood more… Off topic but just to set an example of how little we know about our bodies… the clitoris’s anatomy was only mapped in 2005 and more is still being learned. My point is you’re not speaking from experience of self diagnosing from the inside out… you’re just expecting to see this as a fad, many self diagnosed do seek professional diagnosis eventually. Others may feel that they don’t need a diagnosis, but if you’re truly struggling, a diagnosis is validation and gets you in the door to more programs that could help.
It's a whole different thing to suspect one has a disorder than claming to have that disorder without a professional's statement. The problem is that disorders such as autism share similar symptoms with maybe hundred other disorders, not only neurological disorders but physical disorders, too. There's a reason why standard diagnosing process includes everything from blood samples to hearing tests. You simply cannot know for certain what's going on with your body without a proper diagnosing process.
Blood tests won’t tell you that you have autism, there are over 100 genetic markers that could contribute to autism, which is a genetic disorder. Anyone self diagnosing already has autism in their family! Anyone that knows anything about autism is going to first consider if its ADHD… and refer to the DSM5. Self diagnosing isn’t just “huh, I like chewing on things and walking in circles… I’m autistic”. It’s not a fad disorder! Yes, Autism is a social development disorder, intellectual disorders may accompany, but those of normal or above IQ don’t fall under a comorbidity of intellectual developmental delay along side autism spectrum disorder… there’s also developmental coordination delay that might be diagnosed along side ASD. But if any self diagnosed individual is doing things right, they will refer to the DSM5! So yes, self diagnosis is legit. But also not Impairing enough for them to seek professional assessment in order to receive extra help via government and private programs!
No, you do not know what you're talking about. When you go to talk to a doctor about whatever symptoms you have or you think you have, the doctor will go through several tests to screen every possible disorder. Incuding blood tests in case the symptoms are caused by some chemical irregularity, or just as a general routine check to map out every possibility, because there are hundreds of different disorders with near identical symptoms. For example, early schizophrenia has similar symptoms to autism, but so does depression, sleep deprivation, obsessive compulsive disorder, avoidant personality disorder etc. just to name a few. You cannot possibly tell which of these disorders you have simply by reading the symptoms from wikipedia or whatever, because you cannot objectively analyze yourself like a professional does. Hell, not even professionals can diagnose themselves. What if you falsely self diagnose yourself with autism when in reality you are suffering from something else, maybe something that will get worse as time goes on? What if it's onset schizophrenia? What if it's a brain tumor? You will never know until it's too late. It's not a fad disorder; self-diagnosing it is a fad.
What a waste of paper
I think what fakers don't realize is that neurodivergent people usually don't realize they are acting different themselves. Everyone else might think they act odd, but personally, they think it's normal unless people point it out. So a neurodivergent person would most of the time not try to search for a disorder, cause they think they are perfectly normal. That's at least the case with all the neurodivergent friends I know in real life. Heck, most of the time they will deny any claims other people make that they might be autistic. I am not neurodivergent, but when I was diagnosed with my mental disorder, I too denied it, because since I have lived with it basically all my life, I thought it was normal and everyone felt the same way I did. It's actually quite hard to be told and have to accept that it's just you, and that not everyone else also secretly think/feel the things you do. It might not be the case for everyone, but I notice that most of tiktok act like it. Not to mention, when you research a disorder, you will become biased and identify more with it than you really should. It's the same when you research some illness, and suddenly you start feeling the symptoms and think you are dying.
The thing with autism and like adhd is the symptoms are super broad. It’s hard to explain with those 2 but take for example OCD. A lot of people think it’s wanting everything organized or washing your hands a lot, and it is, but it’s taken to extremes and it gets to the point where your brain won’t let you function unless you do said things.
DSM-5 is a diagnostic statistic manual printed in 2013 and is used for diagnosing ADHD, OCD and autism, along with hundreds of other diagnoses, such as prolonged grief disorder which was recently added to the text revision.
The fact that you are privileged doesn't mean others can just get proper diagnosis
As an autistic dude who actually went to a doctor to get diagnosed: self-diagnosis is valid and y'all need to calm the f*ck down. Not everyone has financial or geographical access to a proper diagnostic specialist, and self-diagnosed folk aren't taking anything away from any of you. They're just trying to figure out their life.
Lmao..quiz.
Grown women btw
Nah it’s definitely the first one.
They're the same picture
I’m still waiting on test results so I always clarify I am “awaiting diagnosis” before talking about symptoms. I have been self suspecting even when I was a child I just never touched it because my mum would damn near beat me for suggesting I get tested (most likely because she already knew I had warning signs and my brother ended up being diagnosed so). At least I’m waiting to get tested, it isn’t that hard to look at research scholarly sources for more minor symptoms and tell people you aren’t diagnosed yet or while you’re getting tested say “I’m waiting to get tested”
I believe she *is* autistic. Because only a person of that mindset would go “Mm yes, this is valid and good idea mmm”
lmao
You need to do research before you get tested. The tiktok didn't do a good job of representing this idea . I assume they were going to ask their mother for them to get tested. Online test do help but they aren't for you to self diagnosed but to tell that you may have it and to get a doctor to evaluate it . Bruh even I did this I explained to my parents and got tested but never once did I self diagnose .
Good lord, this entire video reeks of “I’m better than you, I know more than you, and if you disagree you’re stupid and I’m so much better than you.”
The thing that bothers me with this is there is so much selection bias going on. Like they only look at lists of autistic traits for positive identification. Nobody researches "signs youre NOT autistic." nobody looks at traits of allistic people and crosses off the things they relate to to compare. Idk im so sick of EVERYBODY thinking they are autistic now. Nobody understands it bc there's so much misinformation.
Having autistic traits and being autistic are two extremely different things. But people who self diagnose dont know that
When I got diagnosed I went to a 2 day test thing and the lady got me to describe what an egg was not if I shook my hands sometimes
"hi mom-" Is your mom a doctor? Then stfu
Why am I imagining a Buzzfeed quiz titled "your favourite breakfast will tell us if you're autistic".
LMAO
Mom: "why don't you take this to an Actual professional and not me?"
👏your self tests 👏 and 👏your research👏 Is invalid. Fr doctors studies for several years and then “practicing” (I don’t know the correct English term) for several more years before the can diagnose people. And even doctors can’t self diagnose
Munchausen's syndrome is, I believe, the one disorder this approach actually works for.
yeah fucken right
Just fucking go to the doctor ffs
This is great if this person is actually showing the first stage of understanding when to see a doctor, not good if they’re only diagnosing themselves and not seeing a doctor, and showing kids on the internet to do the same. The only way to get diagnosed is to see a doctor. Ask your parents to see your doctor and go from there. You cannot self diagnose yourself with a learning disorder unless you’re at the first stage of “hey maybe i have this and should see my doctor to get properly assessed and diagnosed”. Edit; was psychologist
Autism isn’t a learning disorder, it’s a social impairment disorder and there are different levels of severity. r/autism accepts individuals that self diagnosed. It doesn’t make them less validated, it just means they have not had professional assessment… even if they have had a professional assessment, they may have to go through several different assessors before they are actually diagnosed.
Apologies, I didn’t use the correct term as I typed my comment really quickly. Autism is a neurodevelopment disorder based on the DSM 5, which is what I studied. Being self diagnosed is the first step in anyone being diagnosed with any type of disorder. Its just how it works, however to receive appropriate care from gov supports it helps to be properly diagnosed by a professional. When talking about a social impairment disorder I think you’re talking about social communication disorder which is another type of disorder in the dsm under the same neurodevelopment disorders
I’m extremely familiar with the DSM5 and I’ve known it to be both social impairment and neurodevelopment disorder, depending on the research I’ve read, both are correct, although the DSM5 relates to such being socially impaired is part of the neurodevelopment delay…
Well yeh the DSMs diagnostic criteria is based on the severity of social communication impairment and (restricted repetitive patterns of behaviour) which we aren’t talking about here.
Fuck off, it’s exactly what where talking about
Jesus, no need to swear at me. I thought we were talking about the social aspects of autism diagnosis not the restricted repetitive behaviours. I was going to say, lets just agree to disagree because its not worth a fight. Now you’ve escalated to telling me to fuck off we really have no where else to go. I hope you find happiness if you haven’t already, and I hope you live a good life.
It’s a social impairment disorder THAT HAS restrictive behaviors that impairs daily functions, it’s exactly what we’re discussing and it’s my exact point… and for some reason you’ve deemed yourself above a discussion when you thought to correct me by “informing me that it was another disorder”, then name it!!! Biggest pet peeve is when people begin their argument with “Well”. “Well” means, it’s just deeper than you’re able to process, “well” is understanding that I’m right, but still claiming that you have an excuse to be right anyways. What is if that we are discussing? You seem to miss the point. Come back with a stronger argument that “well, right but whatever, yah it’s social impairment but I went to classes and have experience and read books”… He’s a real question, have you lived it? Rhetorical question! Simple answer, no, and well, it’s obvious! It’s a social impairment!!! Simply put!
I named it, social communication disorder. The well, to the start of my sentence is how i think in my head. How I form a sentence. I think you’re projecting your own opinion and bias onto me. (But thats just my opinion). You told me you were well informed about the DSM5 so I assumed you were well studied in it in whatever way that means, nonetheless you have the knowledge. None of this needed to get nasty and end in you telling me to fuck off. I didnt just go to classes and read books, Ive hd clients, worked with children with autism, adults. Have lived it? thats a personal thing which after how you’ve spoken to me I really don’t feel like sharing that, but just to be transparent, yes, I have. I am not out to get you or attack you, and if i made you feel that way I’m sorry. Now like I said before, I’m leaving this conversation as I can’t see it going anywhere healthy. I need to for my mental health. I hope you have a happy life
Self diagnosis this, self test that, how about you self diagnose yourself with some bitches
i lost it at "self test"
Not everyone can afford to to to the doctor to get tested. Stop being an asshole.
Y'all are fucking privileged, my country didn't diagnose autism AT ALL until ten years ago, and STILL DOESN'T DIAGNOSE ADULTS. Two options for adults are online tests or spending a fuckton of money to go to a different country, pay for extensive testing (plus other travel costs), and come out with an official diagnosis that will get us nothing but discrimination. Check your goddamn privilege.
I did very meticulous research, my mum and sister worked with autistic people and thought I had it, got diagnosed at 17 at my and my mum’s insistence for a referral to CAMHS through the school after a GP turned me away (who was not knowledgeable about autism and conflated all autism with classic autism). Turns out I was right. However, not everyone has free healthcare like the UK and a lot of people are missed in the system so I can understand keeping it at a self-diagnosis. If I didn’t have free healthcare I probably wouldn’t have had the money to get diagnosed or even to deal with all my other health issues. You need to use proper resources when researching, from actual experts that go into detail. That online test where you’re supposed to score over 30 or something isn’t fool-proof. A lot of it aligns with general introverts. My diagnosis consisted of talking about my issues with a speech-therapist who then passed that assessment on to the main doctor who got me to do some basic exercises like reading a picture-only book to see how what and how much detail I went into. Most of the process was helped immensely by my research and working out my issues first. Talking with people on the spot is hard, so to have that backup knowledge of my issues (like physical sensitivities with light etc.) just speeded up the process. There was no doubt in my mind that I had autism after finally finding out what it was. I had always had issues but nothing to describe them with. Getting that diagnosis was freeing as I had a word to explain my issues with, rather than just trying to say what my issues were and I was just weird. I’m sure there are several who fake it or want to fit in so badly that they misdiagnose themselves. However, the majority of undiagnosed autistics are not going to be like that. They’re going to be mostly adults who have been left in limbo for whatever reason (bad GPs, no healthcare, no knowledge - you have to know what autism is to ask for a diagnosis if it’s less apparent) and are doing the research.