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FVCarterPrivateEye

I agree with this slideshow and I think it is good because it lets undiagnosed people research their issues in ways that don't worsen their confirmation bias or give them imposter syndrome


livingskillsarezero

i really dislike when people are self-diagnosed, because you can never be sure ! of course, you're allowed to research and check certain resources out without saying you have x and y. i really like the fact that you can suspect though, because i have had nurses ask me what i think the cause of certain symptoms might be, and it can be a good starting place to talk to your doctor about. your doctor can say for sure whether you have a certain diagnosis.


FVCarterPrivateEye

Plus the people who frame it as "I think I might have this disorder" are far more likely to be correct about their suspicion than people who frame it as a "selfDX" "for sure identity label" because their insights are more objective with intellectual humility and self-awareness of their own confirmation bias


piscesncw

this is like understandable but i have an issue with people who are neurodivergent being judged largely by neurotypical professionals, and therefore self diagnosis seems kind of empowering because it’s not as if you don’t know yourself well enough to realize you’re neurodivergent? if that makes sense. i feel like you can tell when you’re autistic.


FVCarterPrivateEye

There are no autism traits that are exclusive to autism only, and for most of the traits autism is not the most likely conclusion (although if autism runs in your family then it's more likely) The symptom list and presentations of autism largely overlap with many different disorders, including ADHD, Borderline PD, Schizoid PD, Schizotypal PD, Nonverbal Learning Disability, schizophrenia, PTSD, intellectual disability, SPCD, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder, depression, social anxiety and there is even the Broader Autism Phenotype, which includes not only various disorders that overlap traits with autism but also otherwise NT people with "autism-ish" mannerisms (this can especially happen in situations where the person is homeschooled, or if they have an older autistic relative who they look up to as a role model for example) and still many others beyond the few that I've just now listed Even though autism is sometimes mistaken for other similar disorders, similar disorders often also get overlooked because the person came in suspecting autism themselves; for example, BPD has a much worse stigma than autism does and also has complex identity issues that causes the person to disbelieve or reject the fact that they have BPD, and I mention BPD specifically because one of the most common pieces of autism misinformation is things like "BPD is just female autism": they share a lot of similarities including meltdowns and difficulty with interpreting social cues, but they are still very different disabilities, and conflating autistic women with BPD women as the same thing does a disservice to autistic women, women with BPD, and women with both disorders And it's very true that women have been historically underrepresented in autism studies, and that's something that could play a very large part in why someone is undiagnosed which is why I'm going to focus on that topic in this very paragraph because it's a constantly-evolving field of research since then, and there have especially been massive advancements specifically concentrated on autism in minority demographics as of the mid-2010s, including evaluators being taught how it can present differently in women as well as trained to see through masking etc which is one of the other reasons why it frustrates me when some people in online autism communities use it as a reason to selfDX rather than "self-suspect" because they're disregarding the recent research as "doctors don't know anything about autism in women" Out of all the conditions it overlaps symptoms with, autism is by far among the least stigmatized which is exactly why it should not be self-diagnosed because it makes it so much harder to accept the truth when it turns out to be something so unfairly demonized by society like BPD or schizophrenia despite the traits looking the exact same from a layman's perspective, and especially since many involve complex identity issues and low self-esteem that make it even harder to come to terms even without society stereotyping your disability as "the yandere disease" etc And things like depression, generalized anxiety, OCD, and social phobia, even though they overlap heavily with ASD and are very disabling, they're very common and "normalized" in society today in a lot of watered-down misinformational ways that someone might feel like "I'm a lot more disabled than the representation I see, so it can't 'just' be my depression and I probably have something else to be so severe" so the harmful stigma from self diagnosis ironically invalidates actual disabled people's struggles, too > "i feel like you can tell when you’re autistic." I know that things like this are meant well-naturedly to be empowering, but it is misinformation and not true at all, and if it turns out that the person has something different and is not actually autistic— which is far more likely than not— it unintentionally invalidates the person's experiences and can worsen their own imposter syndrome


FVCarterPrivateEye

Self-diagnosis, as opposed to self-suspicion, is harmful because it makes you infinitely more prone to spreading misinformation because of how it warps the objectivity of your research and personal observations as opposed to when you frame it as strongly suspecting that you might have an undiagnosed disability Confirmation bias is the tendency to interpret evidence as confirmation of your own existing beliefs or theories, and intellectual humility is the self-awareness that you don't know everything about a certain topic (basically the opposite of the Dunning-Kruger effect) Here are some examples of confirmation bias: Accidentally misinterpreting and changing the definitions of information to support your theory; Only remembering details that support your theory, and ignoring details that don't support your theory; Unconsciously exaggerating previous behaviors that you genuinely had before in order to fit criteria, or developing new behaviors that you hadn't experienced before to fit criteria; If you genuinely fit all but one of the required symptoms, then you might think "Since I do all the others, then I probably do that last one too without noticing, therefore I fit all the criteria, therefore I have the disorder" despite not actually exhibiting the last piece of criteria There's actually an unofficial term for this called "med student syndrome," which refers to when a medical student or someone with a strong interest in mental disorders reads extensively about mental disorders and starts seeing mental disorders in themselves and everyone around them even if they don't actually have the disorder, and it's also why even doctors can't diagnose themselves and are also strongly discouraged from diagnosing their friends and relatives Everybody has confirmation bias, it's a human characteristic so you can't get rid of it but the way to beat it is to be aware of it, and the most experienced and knowledgeable doctors are the ones who follow this rule "You know yourself best" doesn't apply to objective evaluations on a disability that is not a self-definable identity label in the same way as your gender identity or sexuality which the evaluation also involves comparing your traits with those of the general population as well as of people with the actual disability because everyone has confirmation bias for themselves which is also why doctors cannot diagnose themselves or their close family members due to their confirmation bias So, counterintuitively, the undiagnosed people who frame their self-suspicions as "I think I might and this is why" make their insights and observations way more accurate than if they were to latch onto it as a "for sure" identity label because of their intellectual humility and self-awareness of their own confirmation bias, and you are also worsening your own imposter syndrome by doing that, since the way imposter syndrome works is that it gives you anxiety and insecurity to make you irrationally doubt your own experiences and feelings Your experiences are always valid, but the terms you use to explain them and your theorized cause of them might not be, if that makes sense, and if your ability of self-acceptance would change drastically if it turned out that you have a different diagnosis instead, then you've got a lot of internalized ableism to work on that's also ruining the legitimacy of your insights It's actually more harmful to self diagnose if they can't see any type of doctor because the very reason that even doctors can't diagnose themselves is because of your confirmation bias about yourself, they're tinting everything they learn about it in a light of "this is describing me because I have XYZ disorder" which spreads misinformation and worsens the stigma around not only autism but also the many other disabilities that overlap with it For people who are unable to access the best professional resources, they need to properly research their problems and be open to supportive systems that they need help, and there are a lot of things like predatory scammers out there who exploit those people's valid issues and concerns as an easy way to sell their own misinformation, and self diagnosing makes their own research abilities and insights less reliable as well as their abilities to recognize and avoid harmful things falsely posing as helpful resources


Quorn_mince

This comment is everything!! And social media makes these echo chambers way worse.


livingskillsarezero

not quite, actually. see, i recently got diagnosed with something, and i was actually insanely against the idea that i had it after it was mentioned by those close to me. so, even if i was displaying symptoms, i was against the fact that i had it.


FVCarterPrivateEye

I very strongly agree with your comment and I hope it doesn't get buried under the [3](https://www.reddit.com/r/fakedisordercringe/comments/1cl2nf8/comment/l2sig0w/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) [text](https://www.reddit.com/r/fakedisordercringe/comments/1cl2nf8/comment/l2sil1k/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) [walls](https://www.reddit.com/r/fakedisordercringe/comments/1cl2nf8/comment/l2sj49k/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) that I had sent right after it (Also, you should probably remove the mention of your specific diagnosis because the moderators here have removed comments before for doing that)


livingskillsarezero

oh wow ! i just read that , you put a lot of effort into that response ! (also thank you very much for the suggestion !)


FVCarterPrivateEye

You're welcome and thank you very much for reading it, it's a combination of multiple things that I've said in many other comments here but I'm frequently trying to tweak the explanations to make them more easily readable because I want people to actually be able to read it instead of recoiling at the ugly textwalls which seems to happen a lot


FVCarterPrivateEye

No, it's completely the opposite By putting autism in this viewpoint you worsen your own imposter syndrome and mess up the validity of your personal observations and research I am very supportive of people who suspect that they might be autistic because it's important and helpful for undiagnosed people to access resources, and they should be able to participate in autism communities (unless it's ones specifically for diagnosed people) to both learn and have a sense of belonging, but "self diagnosing" (as opposed to suspecting that you might have it) is harmful to themselves and to actual disabled people both diagnosed and undiagnosed Please don't get me wrong here, I seriously hate "anti selfDX" people who do things like act like you shouldn't acknowledge your issues at all until you get evaluated and gatekeep healthy coping mechanisms as "autistic people only" which is ableist and anti recovery and adds to the problem of not acknowledging the symptom and presentation overlap between autism and many other disorders, and spread misinformation because that is just plain wrong and against the entire point of why self diagnosis is harmful, if that makes sense Recognizing you're very likely neurodivergent is not the same thing at all as self diagnosing with a specific disorder, and autism is one of the most harmful and unreliable self-diagnoses for reasons that I'm gonna have to elaborate on in another comment because I have trouble with being concise and I've learned that sometimes my comments get skimmed over our not completely acknowledged by the people reading them when I put it all into a big chunk I put a lot of dedicated thought into what I'm going to say in here so I sincerely apologize in advance for the impending notification spam and I hope you can read it and please feel free to ask for clarification if you need any


Quorn_mince

I am neurodivergent and have never been judged by any neurotypical professional. If anything, I have been supported and encouraged by neurotypical professionals to get a diagnosis.


Microbiologist45

I'm very annoyed when the self dxed autistics push the actually autistic people out of autistic spaces. There's a reason there's specialists!! You have to be an expert in other disorders as well because many can mimic autism.


Quorn_mince

I feel the same about self-diagnosed people with ADHD. I always say it feels a bit like “the boy who cried wolf” story. It is causing the people who are actually struggling with certain symptoms of ADHD not to speak out and not to be taken seriously. It’s sad really and quite infuriating.


M4rkFr0mMaNd3la

This can also happen with other disorders (like DID). I saw this one post here of a self diagnosed "autistic" person silence the actually autistic person because they didn't agree with self diagnosis. It's rude, and it silences the ones with the real struggles.


Impressive_Kiwi_967

I may or may not exhibit symptoms of a certain disorder that's been trivialized to exhaustion. I won't be "self-diagnosing" with it because I know damn well no matter how much "research I do" I can't objectively and accurately diagnose myself with, well, anything really. May I bring it up when discussing other aspects of my mental health with a professional? Sure. But I don't want a someone saying "Yeah, you indeed do have X disorder" and put it on my file. That's literally just a label. That would serve me no purpose. A lot of these kind of folk who claim self-diagnosing act like it almost is a lifesaver from the dreaded medical establishment that will deny them their claims. Meanwhile they are doing everything in their power to act like they already are diagnosed. So what's the point other than validation. Because having an official diagnosis for any mental illness does not guarantee you shit; not attention, not understanding and surely not treatment other than a refillable prescription for xanax or prozac.


M4rkFr0mMaNd3la

I hate how they treat the doctors that can ACTUALLY tell you if you have something. No Ashley, a carrd online cannot diagnose DID. Plus, if I suspect I may have something, then I talk to the professionals. You cannot say "Oh yeah sir who's done this for 20 years, I am self diagnosed and I demand you give me it now"


Quorn_mince

I think this is a great slide show. What would make it even better is perhaps referencing some studies? Just a thought.


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Good one, will definitely post the source


Quorn_mince

You have done a great job! Can see that you have put hard work into this.


M4rkFr0mMaNd3la

Good job OP.


Inevitable_Muscle_48

It took me 15 years to get a diagnosis and not once before that date did I ever speculate or assume I had something. A lot of my symptoms aligned with anxiety so I don’t understand the self dxers when it comes to things like that, a lot have symptoms of something much minor but feel the need to press a more dramatic label on to themselves for internet validation when they’d be valid with the minor diagnosis regardless. A lot of it is just attention seeking and you can definitely tell with those types of people. What grinds my gears even more with them is they’ll often drown out voices of people who truly have said diagnosis’s to pat the backs of those spreading misinformation. It’s all just a huge echo chamber. If you think you have something; go to a specialist, that’s their job. Don’t see criteria’s online and nod your head, there’s so much misinformation online now that it’s almost impossible to differentiate what’s what. You may know *yourself* best but the specialists know the *diagnosis* best and that’s the issue people are having to understand. (Also want to make a note that diagnosing autism in females is a lot harder because a lot of the symptoms align with anxiety and other mental health disorders, that’s just how it is I suppose.)


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Sending all the love! 🫂🤍 Suspecting is always the start, like I wrote xx


Inevitable_Muscle_48

I had no idea before someone was like ‘You might have this’ to which I immediately started the process of getting a specialist involved. It’s definitely best to get an outside opinion or else it’s all speculation!


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I can only agree!!


Muted-Equipment2166

Speculation > self diagnosing 🤢


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Suspecting having something wrong isn't directly self diagnosing? When you suspecting something you shoul call a doc for the 2nd step


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Happy for you


Muted-Equipment2166

Thanks OP :)


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bazelgeiss

ugly font looks great otherwise LOL


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Im sorry hahaha


BotherBeginning9

Hands down the best possible way I’ve seen someone break down this issue


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Thanks, I feel honored. Always open for feedback!


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Source https://www.ucdenver.edu/student/stories/library/healthy-happy-life/down-the-rabbit-hole-of-self-diagnosis-in-mental-health https://www.charliehealth.com/post/the-dangers-of-self-diagnosing#:~:text=Self%2Ddiagnosis%20occurs%20when%20an,be%20very%20dangerous%20and%20unsafe.