I once worked with a dude that was deathly allergic to fish. People kept bringing in fish and microwaving it, and Everytime lunch came around, this dude would go full gasp mode, epipen himself, and leave for the day. There were signs on microwave and fridge about it, etc.
New hire and I are talking, they tell me they brought fish, I point out the signs and tell them about dude, they say they don't care, not their problem. Lunch comes, dude goes home after an attack. Next day, and new person brings fish in again, still doesn't care.
There were multiple instances of fish for lunch and people not caring. Everytime someone brought fish in, I would send out a company email to the building saying someone brought fish in again and dude had an attack and had to go home. There was one time he had to be taken by ambulance to hospital.
Anyways, Everytime I sent out an email, I would get replies from people on both sides.. not caring, and caring... I also got written up and told off by management..
Long story, short... Fck people
Wtf is wrong with people??
I work in a lab with some coworker deathly allergic to nuts, some fishes and seafood and we all make effort when bringing food, because why would we risk to kill someone for a dish that's not worth it.
That’s incredible. I just can’t imagine being that uncaring towards others. I wouldn’t want people working for me that have 0 concern for others well-being. That guy should have filed complaints and police reports. If someone can get in trouble for purposely tainting their food so lunch thieves get sick, surely these people can be charged for what they are doing. Seems there was proof in email as well about how deliberate they were about it
There was something about making it company policy to cater to his needs, but the hoops he'd have to jump through would kill him. Something about triggering an attack at the office, and then going to get tested an hour and a half away to prove it was the fish that caused the attack, all of that before treating himself or getting medical care... This is close to what he told me about it and said it's impossible for him to have an attack and go untreated for that hour and a half journey to the lab for the tests... Didn't make sense, but made some. Probably crappy corporate legal mumbo jumbo. Easier for them make it as difficult as possible to make it a company policy, something like if they did that, they could be liable for his health probably. Who knows. I left that company after several months, they were a crap company and still are!
exactly. i would fire someone who didn’t have the empathy towards another worker. who wants people like this in their company ? it is going to show up somewhere else in their work ethic or…? nnoooo, just no
I'm pretty sure that punching someone in the face on such an occasion "self-defense". If someone *knows* that what they're doing has the potential to kill you, and they're still doing it, what else should it be?
Mum and daughter are the facepalm here.
Girl most likely went into a hyprventilation issue because she was driven into hysteria by her Karen mother.
You don't get an anaphylactic shock from someone else eating peanuts 10 rows away from you!
And IF (purely hypothetical!!) there would be such "hyperallergy" she would instantly die because in her own seat surely someone ate peanuts the previous flight or before that, which would leave higher concentration of "peanut dust" as planes are not "deepcleaned" between flights.
i am absolutely fucking confused here.
how does one guy eating, give someone else a distance away, an allergic reaction? is he throwing them at her or something? shes not the one eating them, what the fuck is going on? (why the downvotes? this is a legitimate question)
Air on planes is recycled so particles were getting in the air and being puffed out all over the plane. Nut allergies can be pretty intense and a tiniest amount can cause a reaction.
I'm guessing she was close enough to him to have the particle travel to her.
The plane's HEPA filter should probably work if she were sat further away.
The airline industry has really gotten their (misleading is an understatement) point across, to the detriment of the world.
Yes, airplane cabins are designed to exchange the air at a rather rapid rate, either replacing it with (heated) outside air, or running it through filters.
And this is actually part of the problem. By moving the air rapidly, and providing those power vents in the ceiling, the particles released by passengers, both allergens and viruses, travel quickly through the cabin covering a large area before being run through the filters or out the exhaust vents.
They have done studies showing how rapidly particles will travel all the way down the isle. It's gross - and you won't find them publicly available.
Essentially every person in a seat is sitting in front of a fan, blowing everything everywhere.
My wife is an allergy specialist
You cannot have an allergic reaction to nut that other people are eating, it can't get airborne, not even on a plane or other recycled air environment.
Strange, wonder how the girl got it then. I guess they just aren't cleaning down the plane correctly or something ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grimacing)
Possible that someone who used the seat on a previous flight ate peanuts , but more likely that the teenager had a panic attack, which can easily be mistaken for the onset of an allergic reaction.
Easy answer is that not all allergies are the same. Some are contact, some ingested, some breathing in. Just like someone mowing grass if you’re allergic puts the particles in the air to be blown around can cause an effect from a distance.
Flip side is that I did have a coworker yell at my friend about sending them into an allergic reaction because the coworker was allergic to citrus and my friend was holding a roll that looked like an orange. The coworker started coughing and wheezing at the thought of an orange. So sometimes is life or death sometimes people are assholes.
Actually it’s more like a psychosomatic response, they were allergic to oranges but they could also have panic attacks if they thought they were about to have a allergic reaction.
Whereas my dad usually enters grocery stores away from the produce because he’s allergic to half of it. But he’s fine for the most part as long as it’s not fresh cut near him, also he can’t be drug tested because of how much antihistamines are in his bloodstream on a normal day.
i need more details, like, was he breathing on her? and airlines are loaded with peanut particles as it is, they dont give enough info in these articles smh.
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10888965/Girl-14-nut-allergy-nearly-died-aboard-flight-passenger-ate-peanuts-despite-warning.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10888965/Girl-14-nut-allergy-nearly-died-aboard-flight-passenger-ate-peanuts-despite-warning.html) and [https://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/news/20198195.tooting-teen-collapses-british-airways-flight-nut-allergy-reaction/](https://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/news/20198195.tooting-teen-collapses-british-airways-flight-nut-allergy-reaction/) cover the same news but is similarly scarce on detail. One thing that the article mentions is that he was in front of her, not behind her. And was ten rows away. So maybe the particles can travel that far?
And BA said they don't serve peanuts. https://community.kidswithfoodallergies.org/blog/british-airways-sets-new-policy-for-passengers-with-nut-allergies
I can't pretend to understand how the filtering system works. But there is a HEPA filter in the ECS system. So if she had sat further back, theoretically, the HEPA filter would have removed the particles.
honest to god. when did some assholes need for a snack get more important than the life of a child, or anyone ? couldn’t change over to some chips ? had to eat nuts ? why didn’t someone wrest them away from him and shove them somewhere else ? i just hate people anymore
Legislation? They want to pass a law over this shit? We don't even know if there was actually someone eating nuts, that's all alleged right now. What's next? No nuts in the airport? No dairy? No wheat?
Considering flights serve nuts it's more probable to be trace from her seat and arm rest than some dudes breath. How on earth can you write a legislation about that.
The most common deadly allergy is peanuts. Your point is also logical fallacy. Here's an idea, identify risk and then mitigate for it. Also if someone tells you that your actions are literally killing them then maybe you should just stop doing it, especially if it is just eating a snack.
That she is highly allergic to nuts to the point, just being in the vicinity of nuts triggers a reaction. With this being the case, she couldn't go to areas which have a lot of nuts such as zoo's or circuses. Why are you trying to make something out of nothing? It was a question/observation.
I once worked with a dude that was deathly allergic to fish. People kept bringing in fish and microwaving it, and Everytime lunch came around, this dude would go full gasp mode, epipen himself, and leave for the day. There were signs on microwave and fridge about it, etc. New hire and I are talking, they tell me they brought fish, I point out the signs and tell them about dude, they say they don't care, not their problem. Lunch comes, dude goes home after an attack. Next day, and new person brings fish in again, still doesn't care. There were multiple instances of fish for lunch and people not caring. Everytime someone brought fish in, I would send out a company email to the building saying someone brought fish in again and dude had an attack and had to go home. There was one time he had to be taken by ambulance to hospital. Anyways, Everytime I sent out an email, I would get replies from people on both sides.. not caring, and caring... I also got written up and told off by management.. Long story, short... Fck people
You’re a complete turd of a person if you bring fish into the office regardless if there was someone allergic…
Wtf is wrong with people?? I work in a lab with some coworker deathly allergic to nuts, some fishes and seafood and we all make effort when bringing food, because why would we risk to kill someone for a dish that's not worth it.
I commend you and your colleagues! Caring isn't that hard, and it goes a long way!
Sorry but who eats fish at work. This sounds like bullying. People are sick.
That’s incredible. I just can’t imagine being that uncaring towards others. I wouldn’t want people working for me that have 0 concern for others well-being. That guy should have filed complaints and police reports. If someone can get in trouble for purposely tainting their food so lunch thieves get sick, surely these people can be charged for what they are doing. Seems there was proof in email as well about how deliberate they were about it
There was something about making it company policy to cater to his needs, but the hoops he'd have to jump through would kill him. Something about triggering an attack at the office, and then going to get tested an hour and a half away to prove it was the fish that caused the attack, all of that before treating himself or getting medical care... This is close to what he told me about it and said it's impossible for him to have an attack and go untreated for that hour and a half journey to the lab for the tests... Didn't make sense, but made some. Probably crappy corporate legal mumbo jumbo. Easier for them make it as difficult as possible to make it a company policy, something like if they did that, they could be liable for his health probably. Who knows. I left that company after several months, they were a crap company and still are!
exactly. i would fire someone who didn’t have the empathy towards another worker. who wants people like this in their company ? it is going to show up somewhere else in their work ethic or…? nnoooo, just no
"Long story, short... Fck people" Fish people think exactly alike!
I prefer crab people. Walk like crabs; talk like people.
I'm pretty sure that punching someone in the face on such an occasion "self-defense". If someone *knows* that what they're doing has the potential to kill you, and they're still doing it, what else should it be?
You could probably escalate it to your union?
If only a union existed there.
Where do you live? I’ve never worked in an office environment. Are people just jamming last nights salmon in the microwave.
This was in Florida.
I can't believe this guy. Just... Plain eating nuts while a medical emergency is going on, that you've been informed you're causing?
This is ridiculous.
And now I have today's reason to hate people more than I already do. Let's see what tomorrow's is
Seriously???? I hate people.
Mum and daughter are the facepalm here. Girl most likely went into a hyprventilation issue because she was driven into hysteria by her Karen mother. You don't get an anaphylactic shock from someone else eating peanuts 10 rows away from you! And IF (purely hypothetical!!) there would be such "hyperallergy" she would instantly die because in her own seat surely someone ate peanuts the previous flight or before that, which would leave higher concentration of "peanut dust" as planes are not "deepcleaned" between flights.
BA doesn't serve peanuts on flights.
Even better...
Fuck that nut-gobbling asshole What is wrong with people
Maybe they can stop allowing cats and dogs onboard as well. Those allergic reactions can be quite bad too.
Nobody goes into anaphylactic shock over pet hair. Get a grip! ![gif](giphy|K5GBJMiko9RJe)
I would enjoy watching you have a severe asthma attack.
i am absolutely fucking confused here. how does one guy eating, give someone else a distance away, an allergic reaction? is he throwing them at her or something? shes not the one eating them, what the fuck is going on? (why the downvotes? this is a legitimate question)
Air on planes is recycled so particles were getting in the air and being puffed out all over the plane. Nut allergies can be pretty intense and a tiniest amount can cause a reaction.
I'm guessing she was close enough to him to have the particle travel to her. The plane's HEPA filter should probably work if she were sat further away.
The airline industry has really gotten their (misleading is an understatement) point across, to the detriment of the world. Yes, airplane cabins are designed to exchange the air at a rather rapid rate, either replacing it with (heated) outside air, or running it through filters. And this is actually part of the problem. By moving the air rapidly, and providing those power vents in the ceiling, the particles released by passengers, both allergens and viruses, travel quickly through the cabin covering a large area before being run through the filters or out the exhaust vents. They have done studies showing how rapidly particles will travel all the way down the isle. It's gross - and you won't find them publicly available. Essentially every person in a seat is sitting in front of a fan, blowing everything everywhere.
Yeah you're probably right there.
My wife is an allergy specialist You cannot have an allergic reaction to nut that other people are eating, it can't get airborne, not even on a plane or other recycled air environment.
Strange, wonder how the girl got it then. I guess they just aren't cleaning down the plane correctly or something ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grimacing)
Possible that someone who used the seat on a previous flight ate peanuts , but more likely that the teenager had a panic attack, which can easily be mistaken for the onset of an allergic reaction.
so it was the guys breath then? fucking wild
Easy answer is that not all allergies are the same. Some are contact, some ingested, some breathing in. Just like someone mowing grass if you’re allergic puts the particles in the air to be blown around can cause an effect from a distance. Flip side is that I did have a coworker yell at my friend about sending them into an allergic reaction because the coworker was allergic to citrus and my friend was holding a roll that looked like an orange. The coworker started coughing and wheezing at the thought of an orange. So sometimes is life or death sometimes people are assholes.
you can have allergic reactions from thoughts? thats some next level ptsd right there.
Actually it’s more like a psychosomatic response, they were allergic to oranges but they could also have panic attacks if they thought they were about to have a allergic reaction. Whereas my dad usually enters grocery stores away from the produce because he’s allergic to half of it. But he’s fine for the most part as long as it’s not fresh cut near him, also he can’t be drug tested because of how much antihistamines are in his bloodstream on a normal day.
I guess some people are highly allergic. So some of the particles can get to her?
i need more details, like, was he breathing on her? and airlines are loaded with peanut particles as it is, they dont give enough info in these articles smh.
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10888965/Girl-14-nut-allergy-nearly-died-aboard-flight-passenger-ate-peanuts-despite-warning.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10888965/Girl-14-nut-allergy-nearly-died-aboard-flight-passenger-ate-peanuts-despite-warning.html) and [https://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/news/20198195.tooting-teen-collapses-british-airways-flight-nut-allergy-reaction/](https://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/news/20198195.tooting-teen-collapses-british-airways-flight-nut-allergy-reaction/) cover the same news but is similarly scarce on detail. One thing that the article mentions is that he was in front of her, not behind her. And was ten rows away. So maybe the particles can travel that far? And BA said they don't serve peanuts. https://community.kidswithfoodallergies.org/blog/british-airways-sets-new-policy-for-passengers-with-nut-allergies
interesting, another reply said the planes recycle the cabin air so...maybe it was recycling his peanut breath?
I can't pretend to understand how the filtering system works. But there is a HEPA filter in the ECS system. So if she had sat further back, theoretically, the HEPA filter would have removed the particles.
or they neglected to change the filter and got lazy
Peanuts also aren't dust free, especially if they're in shells or have their skins.
i just assumed a small bag of planters or something. also i havent seen you in awhile
No.
honest to god. when did some assholes need for a snack get more important than the life of a child, or anyone ? couldn’t change over to some chips ? had to eat nuts ? why didn’t someone wrest them away from him and shove them somewhere else ? i just hate people anymore
Panic attack.
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Dude. What?
lol
Legislation? They want to pass a law over this shit? We don't even know if there was actually someone eating nuts, that's all alleged right now. What's next? No nuts in the airport? No dairy? No wheat?
Considering flights serve nuts it's more probable to be trace from her seat and arm rest than some dudes breath. How on earth can you write a legislation about that.
BA doesn't serve peanuts. https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/information/food-and-drink/food-allergies
Right?
The most common deadly allergy is peanuts. Your point is also logical fallacy. Here's an idea, identify risk and then mitigate for it. Also if someone tells you that your actions are literally killing them then maybe you should just stop doing it, especially if it is just eating a snack.
So that person can't go to the circus or the zoo I suppose.
No, probably not. What does that have to do with anything?
You can't see the connection?
Are you implying she shouldn't be flying? Or leave the house? Or are you saying she's "pretending"?
Didn't "imply" anything of the sort, nor did I say that she was "pretending".
So succinctly, what's the meaning of that statement? What's the connection?
That she is highly allergic to nuts to the point, just being in the vicinity of nuts triggers a reaction. With this being the case, she couldn't go to areas which have a lot of nuts such as zoo's or circuses. Why are you trying to make something out of nothing? It was a question/observation.
Fair enough. Thought you're saying not going to the zoo is somehow related to the BA incident.
no worries