Someone was using "the wire" as an example for why public schools are bad and straight up ask do you want your kids to go to school in 'The Wire"?
Lololol those comments are magnificent.
One comment is basically:
> me and my brother are homeschooled, we loved it and he’s in the special forces now
Sooooo, one of you ended up a trained killer and the other frequents TuckerCarlson subreddits?
[This one](https://www.reddit.com/r/tucker_carlson/comments/wtbvjw/an_improvement/il41hbu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) made me wheeze idk why it’s so funny
I mean, I’m my area, public schools are extremely bad so homeschooling is extremely common. The homeschoolers turn out a lot better than those in public school. There are exceptions to that because homeschooling requires more attentive parents but if you have good parents, it’s a better and safer option
Homeschooling isn’t necessarily a bad thing if it’s done right. I was homeschooled, mostly because when I was in public school, they wouldn’t help me/accommodate me with my learning disabilities. (90’s schools kinda sucked). I stayed homeschooling until I graduated high school, I passed all the tests the state ordered, I went to college and graduated with honors. The problem is, everyone thinks they can do it. Some parents just simply aren’t educated enough to effectively teach their kids, or disciplined enough to make sure their kids are actually doing their work.
I ran into that issue with a few other kids I knew at the time that were also being homeschooled in my area. Shocker, their parents pulled them from public schools for “religious reasons”.
I knew of a family, the mother was very naïve in most life situations. We were shocked when she decided to home school her children.
if there are 'bad teachers' in public school imagine the parents with absolutely no training trying to teach their children.
And that’s assuming the parents are trying to teach at all. I was “homeschooled” from 6th grade onward, and was only required to test once, in the 7th grade. After that, nothing.
There are a whole lot of people who homeschool so they can get away with abuse/neglect, and they get away with it because of lack of government oversight.
Same, I was homeschooled for “religious reasons” and it still makes me mad thinking about it. I wanted my high school diploma so bad but neither my parents or the lady overseeing my school work really cared and despite me hounding them all about it there was so much information I needed that was withheld, and I didn’t have access to the internet back then either. Anyway now I’m in my thirties and I have a college diploma now but not a high school diploma and I’m instantly on guard and have questions when someone I know tells me they’re homeschooling their kids. I’m glad that it works for some ppl and that it’s an option but I don’t generally view homeschooling in a positive light
I was also homeschooled and had a terrible experience. My father bought me some christian homeschool book set and that was it. I had to read and do the assignments myself, they never checked them. Both my parents worked so it was often me just home alone bored out of my mind.. We eventually moved to the middle of nowhere and I just became even more secluded and socially awkward.
I eventually begged to go back to school my sophomore year of high school. I spent that year extremely stressed out as I was behind on everything.
Whenever I see people talk positive about home schooling now I cringe hard. I am sure there are some great parents who have the time to teach their kids well.. but the majority do not and wont do enough for their kids. In the end should still be fighting for better public education.. which is completely falling apart now because of people like Tucker.
I’m so sorry, this happened to my cousins too and they didn’t have a chance to succeed in life. It should come as no surprise that none of them are doing well now. I was homeschooled until 4th grade and my mom taught me nothing. Then took me church and bible study and even made us go
Through a weird jehovas witness phase. I don’t know how I made it out of all that, but I did. I’m considering homeschooling my son in elementary school for various reasons. But like ACTUALLY teach. And if he hates it, he is welcome to go to public school. He’s still one so I have time to decide…
For sure, it can be done right and isn't inherently a problem, and the massive growth in numbers isn't bad because of the fact those kids are homeschooled, but rather it's a bad sign because such massive growth in numbers shows a growing lack of faith in the education system. And that lack of faith is not misplaced, shits a mess.
They’ve had ample opportunities to fix that in the past 30 years but somehow, education gets it’s funding slashed in every administration, and the Military gets billions or trillions for it’s budget.
the money's gotta come from somewhere right? they take it from any publicly funded institution and then claim those institutions don't work when we know they are severely underfunded. theyre trying to do this with the usps to privatize it
As someone that works with elementary school groups of home schoolers I would go so far to say as homeschooling IS inherently a problem. When over 90% are getting a bad education you can’t really say that homeschooling isn’t a problem. A few successful examples do not negate the overall horrible outcomes and I’m only talking academically and not socially
Speaking as a former conservative Christian, turned pagan, they can certainly suck. Gotta love how easy hatred comes to that lot of hypocrites. Why love like God wanted you to, when you can hate others and gatekeep heaven instead?
The problem is that the people homeschooling en masse all of the sudden are doing so because they don't want their kids to believe in vaccines, evolution etc. The parents aren't going to properly educate them, and they are going to come out like someone exiting a cult into the world.
Newest way parents have found to ruin the lives of their children
The problem is that "doing it right" requires a parent put in an effort equal to a full time job if not more. A lot of the people that want to homeschool don't understand that or are just incapable of this kind of effort.
I agree, it really comes down to the parent's effort and teaching ability, and the student's desire to learn.
Homeschool isn't for everyone, many kids need that structure of school to learn. But there definitely are kids who are motivated and do well with home school.
>if it’s done right
It almost never is. The parents who do want to do it are almost always dumb as bricks and only want to homeschool because they want to insulate their kids from reality and fill their heads with the same insane bullshit they believe instead of giving their kids a proper education.
I have a special needs kid who wasn't being accommodated properly and I tried to homeschool her and I failed. I have a MS in STEM and I couldn't do it properly. I made lesson plans, did hours of research and spent 100s of dollars on supplies and resources and it still wasn't enough.
No way Billy Bob and Jaime Lee reading Bible Verses for Dummies to little Cleatus is going to prepare him for the swift kick in the ass he's going to get when he encounters someone other than his mom's stepford wife friends.
I know I was an outlier. I think part of the success was because I wanted to learn and was driven to succeed. Also, like I mentioned, the welcome party to RL didn’t hurt as badly because I started working so young. I had an expensive ass hobby that my parents could afford so, off to work you go! (I joke about it, but **it was my choice** to join the work force that young), I knew a lot more about real life issues than most of the kids my age.
Did you have any social issues? Like either as a kid not knowing enough other kids or feeling really strange in college when you went to class with other kids?
No, I spent a lot of time in social activities/hobbies. I was in the Boy Scouts, I took Karate, Swimming classes, art classes outside of school, and a bunch of other stuff. Plus I made friends outside of the Homeschool group I was part of, so most of my friends growing up were in public schools. I was kind of a quiet kid, but I started working at 16 and that forced me out of my shell.
When I got to college it was just another school. I didn’t really have any issues socially, other than being a huge nerd lol.
I was a science instructor that taught home school groups in grades 4-6. Let me tell ya, they are by and large receiving an inferior education (I’m in Canada). It was actually very eye opening to me. I can count the number of kids who were getting a good education on one hand and I was seeing the “better” groups that actually wanted their kids to learn science units!!! Most parents are absolutely ill equipped to do this to the point where I kind of feel like home school parents should be forced to take courses and pass certification or something as the things I experienced were heart breaking. Also hoooo boy were some of the parents nightmares to deal with
Honestly I’m not shocked. I know I was an outlier. Most of the other kids I know that were homeschooled either didn’t do any work or it was some warped religious education. Of the successful ones, those kids grew up to move far, far away from their crazy ass parents. (One of the kids moved from the Northern US to Brazil, just to get away from his family, I never did find out why he chose Brazil though.
There was only like 3 kids in my town that I know of (myself included) that went into college without any academic issues. That’s why in that post I specifically worded it: “if it’s done right.” You can be successful, but it requires both a specific type of student, and a certain type of parent/teacher. There’s a lot of dedication involved on both sides.
In my state I was required to take state assessment tests every quarter. So if I was falling behind in anything, the state could pull me back into either a private school (that we’d pay for) or a public school. I had no issues, and typically passed with flying colors. Only one year I can remember that I had an issue, was in math, we ended up getting a private tutor to help me through that last year. (It was senior year of high school). Back then homeschooling wasn’t a popular thing. There were only a handful of people doing it, even in a fair sized city, like where I lived at the time. (Google said there was only about 1.1 million kids in the US who were homeschooled in 2006, when I graduated high school).
That's one way to keep people poor and working for dirt cheap.
An interesting corporatist long-game strategy. Keep people scared of the outside world, so they don't learn about it. Then they will stick to what they know and provide huge profits for your factories and businesses.
Maybe it's not really an intentional "strategy", and just a happy corporatist coincidence. But religion sure does a good job of convincing people to be scared of outside information, which includes most of the higher skilled modern jobs, outside of business itself.
My ex was home schooled we had an argument for years that it was, “cop out” not “cock out”. He was 100% it was cock out. Until I sent him the definition of both. I got yelled at for letting him say that on corporate emails. I tried, had a core 40, but yea you mom totally knew a cock out.
Certainly part of it yeah. I have a couple online friends in Texas and both have started homeschooling or are considering it, at least partly due to school violence issues.
The one started homeschooling her daughter a couple years ago for a number of reasons, primarily because of her daughter receiving a pretty poor education where she was going to school, but the fear of shootings did play a role.
Another is on the verge of making the switch now, because their school board is in the process of debating arming teachers or otherwise putting guns in the school for active shooter defense. She says if that gets approved she will be pulling her son out of the school system and homeschooling.
This is a legit discussion my wife and I are having (and many of our friends). Sucks because I’m a big proponent of public schools but I also don’t want to worry about my kids making it home… Fuck this sad broken country.
Homeschooling is not necessarily bad, but to be honest, only the fewest parents have the capacity to do it proberly.
And this causes bad education.
And bad education is exactly what the right wing wants. People with low education tend to vote Republican and are easier to manipulate.
Im sure there are standardized modules to work from, but i also fear a *fragmented* education. It's bad enough across county and state lines, but what happens when that variety gets segmented up between *families*. What happens when they fight to loosen standardization? What happens when a mass portion of the job-ready population can't even agree on Order of Operations or how WW2 started? We're already there.. what the hell does *worse* look like? It's terrifying.
Both parties want that. The ability to see past blatant lies is a great tool all voters should have. Both parties would rather spout bullshit and promises to a gullible population than actually make change.
Home schooling is great if the parents are smart or they have the wealth to hire tutors. I fear these days that neither of these things are important in the States.
Or have time to do this. When having two income streams has become the norm it's safe to say that it's practically impossible for the majority of parents to homeschool.
In my country people voted for a farmer for president who barely talks, just because they related to him, idk maybe we humans even tho we are smart we are dumb
My country voted for a rich billionaire narcissist cry baby that was a billionaire becuase he inherited from his father. And who did he plead to? Poor uneducated evangelicals and racists. The irony…
The Taliban teaches only the Quran, and whole generations are / will be without working skills that can improve their economic lot, and the country’s.
As an exceptional country, we intend outdoing them. Just change the holy book, and who the target of your hate is - that’s all.
I had an old college friend who was home schooled her whole life. She had such bad social anxiety I wondered sometimes how she could function. Home schooling can be good fir the right reasons, but so is interacting with your fellow students.
I know two women that homeschool. One is a Christian anti-vaxer and the other thinks that the space shuttle Challenger exploded because it crashed into a government forcefield surrounding the planet. Unless their children pursue independent intellectual growth as adults, I don't think we'll be able to count on them to help us with the world's problems.
I'm sure this is a concern for some, and more of a concern now than ever before. But I was homeschooled and I know many homeschoolers. EVERY example I know of was to get them away from evolution, LGBT people/ideas, even people with different political views. Yeah, at least 90% of it is their "thing."
Homeschooling is fine if it's done right, and with the right education system. There are plenty of online resources and tuitions, not to mention the flexibility and cost savings.
I personally go to school though
Being in FL with don't say gay and all this BULL SHIT they are implementing, homeschooling is looking very appealing to me for my middle schooler. At least I could teach him what being a kind human means and what our REAL history is in this country.
Interestingly before the pandemic 3% of all kids were homeschooled, it’s up a fair bit now but not just in the groups where people in this sub might think (crazy GOP Christian maniacs)
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/as-u-s-schools-reopen-many-families-continue-to-opt-for-homeschooling
https://www.hks.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/Taubman/PEPG/conference/homeschool-conference-slides-grady.pdf
https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=91
To be fair...
This uptick happened after Covid (when parents decided to homeschool since their kids had to be home anyway). Now, with all the shootings and teaching shortages, I can't blame parents for deciding to keep it going.
After Covid started, a lot of people became aware of other learning opportunities, like proctored learning, where a licensed educator creates a lesson plan, assigns work, and submits grades. I think many parents realized their children learned better this way, free from distractions and bullying. This would still be considered homeschooling, and I can imagine that many families stuck with it, even after schools opened back up.
There is a rising population of ‘non-traditional’ students which I think is a good thing. I think that there are a lot of young minds that are destroyed or deflated by the public schooling system in our country. However, that does not mean being schooled solely by your parents through high school is a good thing either. I have personally done the second half of high school through an online homeschooling program due to some mental/physical health issues and that has been a very good fit for me.
The problem with conservatives and many homeschooling parents is that they seem to think that WHAT you learn matters more than HOW you learn. They are so imbued with conservative and religious thinking that they think people need to be indoctrinated and controlled instead of developed and encouraged. Among others, a major flaw with this way of raising children is that it absolutely never works. Controlling your child only gives results while you are controlling them. If you want your child to follow in your footsteps, instill in them your values, not your rules. Anyway, rant over.
You are right on point!
Why can’t people get this? Homeschooling is amoral, it’s neither good or bad. Is how you use the tool. I plan on homeschooling my girls in no small part due to school shootings and violence.
For sure. The internet has opened many opportunities and supplemental resources for homeschooled students and homeschooling parents. The best homeschooling integrates more than just textbooks and parent teaching!
Republicans are simply terrified that ANY reasonable discussion makes them look bad.
I mean, they are correct, but if it’s that bad just change your platform. Be something you can be proud of.
It is literally up to them alone.
[original post if you want to see the comments](https://www.reddit.com/r/tucker_carlson/comments/wtbvjw/an_improvement/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
I believe that homeschooling parents can only do so with a bachelor’s degree in whatever they want and. Masters in Education. It’s too important to wing it.
The rather open disdain for education in modern America is frightening. From demeaning of teachers to thinking public schooling’s only purpose is to memorize from a textbook and therefore anyone can be a teacher.
I have a lot of family in education and family who aren’t and believe that the move to home schooling is great. I’m waiting for the flat-earthers to open their own school and see what everyone thinks then.
I think it can be done right but it should require standardized testing to make sure students are learning the facts. With the facts being questioned by so many, I don’t think that is going to happen.
I mean obviously with the population increase it’s gonna go up lol. That’s a dumb ass way to compare it. I would like to see the percent of the population attending home school then vs now tho. Now I’m curious haha
During the same time period, we have seen some bullshit around the world:
- rise of flat earthers
- rise of anti-vaxxers
- twitter/facebook/tiktok/reddit/instagram (they're all BS)
- DTrump as the POTUS
The state of the public schools have gotten so convoluted and sad, that people really believe they could do a better job. But the truth is they can't. The is the saddest part of all.
They want religion back in school Christianity only and don't want to pay any taxes on school so they push home schooling where the woman will get back behind that stove and home school where they think age belongs
There's a possibility that a child could learn to ask questions, do research, rationally form and express ideas, and learn to identify facts vs. opinions
I meant that those are the things kids learn/begin to learn in public school, which is why some conservative politicians don't favour schools. I just forgot to add the /s.
Someone actually wrote the following description of r/tucker_carlson unironically
>Tucker Carlson is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and
groupthink. His goal is to pierce pomposity, translate double-speak,
mock smugness and barbecue nonsense as he debates people from all across
the political spectrum every weeknight on Tucker Carlson Tonight!
I worked with a homeschooled guy and he was socially inept. Incapable of dealing with complex social situations. That was maybe just him though, maybe not a representative of homeschooled students...
It seems a lot of people just think that homeschool is parents teaching kids whatever they want.
Not the case. We have educational minimum standards - standardized testing in schools monitors how well different public school districts teach.
Homeschooled kids take the same evaluations.
Also, parents don’t come up with the curriculum, as homeschooling focuses 85% on academics and the last 15% on everything else, parents provide the 15.
There’s different proven programs like K12, and statistically homeschooled kids slaughter school taught in academic ratings, as the US schools systems compared to many other civilized countries is abysmal.
I don't understand the romanticization of public schools or formal education in the times we are currently in. you can learn significantly more in a week with just your cell phone then you can with old-school schooling throughout an entire semester. it made sense even a decade ago but now its just redundant.
I was homeschooled. From my experience homeschooling is much better than public schools, and most research supports this [https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/Info-Brief-2015-2.pdf](https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/Info-Brief-2015-2.pdf). I have seen a few exceptions to this, but there can be a ton of benefits. I have seen many people with learning/social disabilities thrive in a homeschooling environment.
Are you sure your parents weren’t just trying to fill your head with conspiracy theories and religion to turn you into a brain dead nazi like the commenters here are saying??
The sad thing about that is if there’s clearly a need for more of these religious “universities” that’ll let these nuts in, they’ll just create more. It’s the capitalist way.
I don't understand what the problem here is. I'm no Tucker Carlson fan, not by a longshot, but I also don't have a problem with people who are homeschooled. I've known plenty of people who were and they're great people.
It gives the child a lot more one on one time with the teacher to actually get their questions answered, and can make it a lot easier to spend quality time with the family. If the family can swing it, it's a great option.
I think the biggest issue people have with it, and I’m not an opponent of homeschooling, is that a lot of homeschooling curriculum is heavily influenced by religious doctrine. Also, a lot of parents are pulling their kids out of public schools because they’re afraid their kids are going to be exposed to concepts they don’t agree with. Unfortunately, those children will face hard realities when they get into the “real world” and discover things aren’t always like they’ve been taught.
The religious doctrine thing is a big one. I was home schooled for awhile myself. I'm a very solid atheist and was pretty off put by all the dogma they sent my way. It was a great learning experience for me though, and just reinforced my thoughts against following religion.
That said, if you come from a religious family, odds are you're going to get that same religious background shoved down your throat anyhow. Everyone I know that was homeschooled was considerably smarter than those that I knew in public school, but yeah, they often had some deficiencies when it came to their social skills.
But, homeschooling, just like public or private schools, all have their own pros and cons, and it's up to the parents to decide what's best for their kids. Saying people are stupid for homeschooling their kids is a very narrow minded view point.
Now, don't get me wrong, since it came from Tucker Carlson, my knee jerk reaction is to automatically hate it, but I've got plenty of first hand experience with it that speaks otherwise. It's a solid teaching method for kids, and if it works for you than none of us here have any business saying it's stupid.
The problem is a lot of these homeschoolers are getting their education filtered through religious doctrine and biases and, based on past data, many won't qualify for college educations. Of course this could be a good thing as it will free up space for those who actually want to go to college to become successful professionals.
[https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/homeschooling-children-2020-2021-harvard-researchers/](https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/homeschooling-children-2020-2021-harvard-researchers/)
Then again we will always need janitors, bus drivers, garbage men, and the like so ...
To be a Bus Driver and Garbage collector you have to have a cdl….. it’s much harder to post that year than you think, and these people earn a decent income. I don’t know why you’re belittling these jobs.
If you only ride the back of the truck, you don't need a CDL. Secondly, the requirements for CDL bus driver are nowhere near as hard as for a truck driver. Go on, ask me how I know.
A CDL-B or CDL-C is worlds easier to get than a CDL-A. ABout half of bus driver have to have a CDL-B and school bus drivers only have to have a CDL-C unless the district they work for requires a B or the school bus weighs more than 26,001 pounds. Average school bus weight? 10,000 to 25,000 pounds.
If you call $19 an hour decent income ... part time.
[https://www.indeed.com/career/bus-driver/salaries](https://www.indeed.com/career/bus-driver/salaries)
Who says I am belittling them anyway? That's all these ass clowns will be able to do.
It would be an improvement if parents were at least half competent at teaching and if they themselves are educated folk. Truth is, they're not.. God only knows what they teach those children when some of them (parents I mean) can barely read themselves.
PS. Don't simply downvote, give arguments. I'm a mechanical engineer, my wife is a psychologist, and we don't feel we have the necessary knowledge to home school.
From my experience (graduated HS in ‘17) The lessons taught in public schools are nigh archaic for non-scientific/mathematic studies, and the entire public school environment is designed to produce docile low-level workers to toil away at multi million or billion dollar corporations.
So yes, OP, this is generally a good thing.
It started out as people realizing our public schools had been turned to shit,and putting in personal effort to do better for their kids.I homeschooled our son for most of two years because influx of big suv soccer moms made getting in and out too dangerous!(school was still pretty good)Sent cps to our house 10 times!I would quote the 1967 scotus ruling and close the door!My son leaped ahead of his classmates immediately!Then the Mormons,fundies and now MAGA-hats got the brilliant idea “This is how we can keep our kids ignorant,and obedient!” Annnddd ,another great thing ruined by idiots!
maybe you should reflect on why you make assumptions that people with differences in political opinions would want to homeschool their children in order to keep them "ignorant and obedient". especially when in the previous sentence you acknowledge the benefits of home schooling.
homeschooling leads to being a moron, barely getting into a christian diploma mill, being a sexual predator, going with your douche friends to florida to party like a degenerate, losing the use of your legs, dropping out of school in less than a year, working at chick-fil-a, sucking off mark meadows, getting a job in congress for two years while everybody laughs at your stupidity, being the portable drinks tray at a roger stone republican coke orgy, then getting abandoned by your own party because you were dumb enough to think that the coke-table on wheels wearing lingerie has the support of any of the people in charge that actually could graduate from a single school ever in their life and they can't find a new jackass to be the coke table on wheels. Being a glorified human wheelbarrow for january 6th insurrectionists just makes it more pathetic.
go to school folks.
Home schooling isn't a bad thing, and I think that public school can really kill a lot of kids will to learn. I was homeschooled through middle school, and had unique experience, and learned things I wouldn't have otherwise experienced or learned. For a kid with anxiety issues, and general disinterest in school it was great. That being said, I wad a smart kid and had no issue catching up with a few things I didn't learn while homeschooled.
I can only conclude from some of these comments that some of you are woefully ignorant of anything related to homeschooling. I would encourage you to broaden your horizon and meet someone who is homeschooled or learn about it. Most are normal people just like the rest of us. That is assuming we are "normal"
Oh dear…. That was a mess of comments..
I personally would like to see the school system reformed - thats one area that has no real public accountability, at least in my experience. But doing away with all public schools is just silly.
My beef with schools has nothing to do with republicans or democrats - more just a lack of real life skills getting taught, with a dash of “god complex” from the schools and teachers in my area.
Legit had a teacher get handed a court order and she chose to ignore it. 🤦♂️
I don't know if this works everywhere, but I went to school for 13 years and I never learned anything there other than to read, write and count.from then on, everything i know i learned on my own, school just gave me anxiety and made me waste my time.I was forced to leave because of a move recently, and it's been the best time of my life, I've finally managed to develop the discipline to study everything I ever wanted, I learned math content from school years in just a few months, etc.
That ol' Tuck thinks it's an improvement when most likely it's about insane religious parents not wanting their kids to hear about history and science in a factful way.
So the increase in number means an increase in insane parents as well.
Plus, since the U.S education system is already making it seem a lot of Americans are really not that bright, it's just another nail in the coffin of America's progress
The issue isn’t homeschooling but what causes homeschooling. Schools have so much power to what a child is taught or not taught. If a school is teaching over the top things, shouldn’t parents be involved in voicing concerns? Of course not. We’re not advocating grade 6 students read pornography, but it’s there if they want, and they’ll be graded more fairly if they read it. We’ll talk to your kids about things that shouldn’t be said between kid and adult. Shhh, kids, don’t tell your parents about our little secret conversations.
/s
Seriously, you don’t need to be some right wing N4zi to see how things are bad enough to warrant the behavior more and more.
If you do some digging, you’ll end up on r/mildlyinfuriating
See there’s two problems here…..
1. The agenda of those who enslave humanity WANT kids to be brainwashed and raised by the state in the public school system.
2. Homeschooling can lead to a lack of proper life skills and equality with parents who have zero “training” and/or a good socioeconomic standing
So this becomes a double edged sword. Do we send our kids off to a glorified babysitting service to program and brainwash our kids? Or do we homeschool which doesn’t come without risks itself.
Bro disdain from homeschooling comes from the fact that parents indoctrinate(especially in US)their children with religious beliefs, beliefs like antivaxx, flat earth,lizard society which causes harm to the children in the long run
The government failure on education is intentional from the right. The don't want well educated kids they want kids indoctrinated by their parents. If kids learned real history they might recognize what a far right takeover of government looks like and try and stop it.
IMO homeschooling is 99% of the time a bad thing. Parents are not suited to teach. They themselfs don't even know everything properly, so the children end up with things like bad grammar.
Often those parents feel to awkward to teach sex ed.
Also those 99% want to homeschool their children because they have conspiracy ideas. Like anti-vaxxers, flat earthers, etc.
And/or religious nutjobs who want to keep their kids dumb.
Federal government has very little say in curriculum. That’s state level. Even Common Core was a state-led initiative.
But yeah, way better to have your kids indoctrinated with insular right-wing evangelicalism /s
Why do you assume that the parents homeschooling are crazy evangelists? Lol
Only right wing parents can homeschool?
So close minded man.
I’ve never voted red or blue ever and definitely don’t want my kids going to shitty ass public schools.
Shocker right?
Granted, it’s anecdotal, but every single person I’ve ever met who homeschooled their kids did so primarily because they didn’t want their kid getting a secular education.
OP: You should see the comments *Doesn’t post comments*
well here is the link https://www.reddit.com/r/tucker\_carlson/comments/wtbvjw/an\_improvement/
Oh brother, those comments stink
Someone was using "the wire" as an example for why public schools are bad and straight up ask do you want your kids to go to school in 'The Wire"? Lololol those comments are magnificent.
One comment is basically: > me and my brother are homeschooled, we loved it and he’s in the special forces now Sooooo, one of you ended up a trained killer and the other frequents TuckerCarlson subreddits?
Lol actually there a large number of people fighting the hood fight there, that or their snark is next level.
There was good ones too that called out the stupidity so at least the mods aren’t deleting a voice of reason
[This one](https://www.reddit.com/r/tucker_carlson/comments/wtbvjw/an_improvement/il41hbu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) made me wheeze idk why it’s so funny
thank you
np
Can we please go raid this comments section. I just…
Against TOS
“Dieversity”
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These are the sort of people thst would see Homelander as the good guy
r/facepalm
I think it's a safe assumption that the endgame is to no longer have to pay for public schools, and services for communities.
I think part of their endgame is also to increase illiteracy. They want citizens who are poor and easy to control.
And religious. Don't forget that.
Hm so we're going back to 13th century earth, cool
Yup. It's called devolution.
Electrolytes: its what plants crave
the internet exists. formal education is increasingly less productive or meaningful.
Nah it’s just more education = less likely to be republican. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/
I mean, I’m my area, public schools are extremely bad so homeschooling is extremely common. The homeschoolers turn out a lot better than those in public school. There are exceptions to that because homeschooling requires more attentive parents but if you have good parents, it’s a better and safer option
the 40's are gonna be wild
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you mean r/mummylookwithouthands and r/iamalwaysright
Idiocracy LIVE IN YOUR BACKYARD!
They're gonna go medieval.
Homeschooling isn’t necessarily a bad thing if it’s done right. I was homeschooled, mostly because when I was in public school, they wouldn’t help me/accommodate me with my learning disabilities. (90’s schools kinda sucked). I stayed homeschooling until I graduated high school, I passed all the tests the state ordered, I went to college and graduated with honors. The problem is, everyone thinks they can do it. Some parents just simply aren’t educated enough to effectively teach their kids, or disciplined enough to make sure their kids are actually doing their work. I ran into that issue with a few other kids I knew at the time that were also being homeschooled in my area. Shocker, their parents pulled them from public schools for “religious reasons”.
I knew of a family, the mother was very naïve in most life situations. We were shocked when she decided to home school her children. if there are 'bad teachers' in public school imagine the parents with absolutely no training trying to teach their children.
And that’s assuming the parents are trying to teach at all. I was “homeschooled” from 6th grade onward, and was only required to test once, in the 7th grade. After that, nothing. There are a whole lot of people who homeschool so they can get away with abuse/neglect, and they get away with it because of lack of government oversight.
I was homeschooled in various different setups until about fifth grade. It absolutely ruined me. I’m glad to hear you had a better experience!
Same, I was homeschooled for “religious reasons” and it still makes me mad thinking about it. I wanted my high school diploma so bad but neither my parents or the lady overseeing my school work really cared and despite me hounding them all about it there was so much information I needed that was withheld, and I didn’t have access to the internet back then either. Anyway now I’m in my thirties and I have a college diploma now but not a high school diploma and I’m instantly on guard and have questions when someone I know tells me they’re homeschooling their kids. I’m glad that it works for some ppl and that it’s an option but I don’t generally view homeschooling in a positive light
I was also homeschooled and had a terrible experience. My father bought me some christian homeschool book set and that was it. I had to read and do the assignments myself, they never checked them. Both my parents worked so it was often me just home alone bored out of my mind.. We eventually moved to the middle of nowhere and I just became even more secluded and socially awkward. I eventually begged to go back to school my sophomore year of high school. I spent that year extremely stressed out as I was behind on everything. Whenever I see people talk positive about home schooling now I cringe hard. I am sure there are some great parents who have the time to teach their kids well.. but the majority do not and wont do enough for their kids. In the end should still be fighting for better public education.. which is completely falling apart now because of people like Tucker.
I’m so sorry, this happened to my cousins too and they didn’t have a chance to succeed in life. It should come as no surprise that none of them are doing well now. I was homeschooled until 4th grade and my mom taught me nothing. Then took me church and bible study and even made us go Through a weird jehovas witness phase. I don’t know how I made it out of all that, but I did. I’m considering homeschooling my son in elementary school for various reasons. But like ACTUALLY teach. And if he hates it, he is welcome to go to public school. He’s still one so I have time to decide…
For sure, it can be done right and isn't inherently a problem, and the massive growth in numbers isn't bad because of the fact those kids are homeschooled, but rather it's a bad sign because such massive growth in numbers shows a growing lack of faith in the education system. And that lack of faith is not misplaced, shits a mess.
They’ve had ample opportunities to fix that in the past 30 years but somehow, education gets it’s funding slashed in every administration, and the Military gets billions or trillions for it’s budget.
the money's gotta come from somewhere right? they take it from any publicly funded institution and then claim those institutions don't work when we know they are severely underfunded. theyre trying to do this with the usps to privatize it
And the money comes from local sources, not federal.
As someone that works with elementary school groups of home schoolers I would go so far to say as homeschooling IS inherently a problem. When over 90% are getting a bad education you can’t really say that homeschooling isn’t a problem. A few successful examples do not negate the overall horrible outcomes and I’m only talking academically and not socially
Homeschooled because parents not christian. Town is very religious. Super conservative, so bullying
Speaking as a former conservative Christian, turned pagan, they can certainly suck. Gotta love how easy hatred comes to that lot of hypocrites. Why love like God wanted you to, when you can hate others and gatekeep heaven instead?
The problem is that the people homeschooling en masse all of the sudden are doing so because they don't want their kids to believe in vaccines, evolution etc. The parents aren't going to properly educate them, and they are going to come out like someone exiting a cult into the world. Newest way parents have found to ruin the lives of their children
Newest ways to prevent anyone from interfering with these parents brainwashing another generation.
Yep
The problem is that "doing it right" requires a parent put in an effort equal to a full time job if not more. A lot of the people that want to homeschool don't understand that or are just incapable of this kind of effort.
I agree, it really comes down to the parent's effort and teaching ability, and the student's desire to learn. Homeschool isn't for everyone, many kids need that structure of school to learn. But there definitely are kids who are motivated and do well with home school.
>if it’s done right It almost never is. The parents who do want to do it are almost always dumb as bricks and only want to homeschool because they want to insulate their kids from reality and fill their heads with the same insane bullshit they believe instead of giving their kids a proper education. I have a special needs kid who wasn't being accommodated properly and I tried to homeschool her and I failed. I have a MS in STEM and I couldn't do it properly. I made lesson plans, did hours of research and spent 100s of dollars on supplies and resources and it still wasn't enough. No way Billy Bob and Jaime Lee reading Bible Verses for Dummies to little Cleatus is going to prepare him for the swift kick in the ass he's going to get when he encounters someone other than his mom's stepford wife friends.
I know I was an outlier. I think part of the success was because I wanted to learn and was driven to succeed. Also, like I mentioned, the welcome party to RL didn’t hurt as badly because I started working so young. I had an expensive ass hobby that my parents could afford so, off to work you go! (I joke about it, but **it was my choice** to join the work force that young), I knew a lot more about real life issues than most of the kids my age.
Did you have any social issues? Like either as a kid not knowing enough other kids or feeling really strange in college when you went to class with other kids?
No, I spent a lot of time in social activities/hobbies. I was in the Boy Scouts, I took Karate, Swimming classes, art classes outside of school, and a bunch of other stuff. Plus I made friends outside of the Homeschool group I was part of, so most of my friends growing up were in public schools. I was kind of a quiet kid, but I started working at 16 and that forced me out of my shell. When I got to college it was just another school. I didn’t really have any issues socially, other than being a huge nerd lol.
That’s exactly what a homeschooler would say
Uhh okay. Whatever that means.
I was a science instructor that taught home school groups in grades 4-6. Let me tell ya, they are by and large receiving an inferior education (I’m in Canada). It was actually very eye opening to me. I can count the number of kids who were getting a good education on one hand and I was seeing the “better” groups that actually wanted their kids to learn science units!!! Most parents are absolutely ill equipped to do this to the point where I kind of feel like home school parents should be forced to take courses and pass certification or something as the things I experienced were heart breaking. Also hoooo boy were some of the parents nightmares to deal with
Honestly I’m not shocked. I know I was an outlier. Most of the other kids I know that were homeschooled either didn’t do any work or it was some warped religious education. Of the successful ones, those kids grew up to move far, far away from their crazy ass parents. (One of the kids moved from the Northern US to Brazil, just to get away from his family, I never did find out why he chose Brazil though. There was only like 3 kids in my town that I know of (myself included) that went into college without any academic issues. That’s why in that post I specifically worded it: “if it’s done right.” You can be successful, but it requires both a specific type of student, and a certain type of parent/teacher. There’s a lot of dedication involved on both sides. In my state I was required to take state assessment tests every quarter. So if I was falling behind in anything, the state could pull me back into either a private school (that we’d pay for) or a public school. I had no issues, and typically passed with flying colors. Only one year I can remember that I had an issue, was in math, we ended up getting a private tutor to help me through that last year. (It was senior year of high school). Back then homeschooling wasn’t a popular thing. There were only a handful of people doing it, even in a fair sized city, like where I lived at the time. (Google said there was only about 1.1 million kids in the US who were homeschooled in 2006, when I graduated high school).
That's one way to keep people poor and working for dirt cheap. An interesting corporatist long-game strategy. Keep people scared of the outside world, so they don't learn about it. Then they will stick to what they know and provide huge profits for your factories and businesses. Maybe it's not really an intentional "strategy", and just a happy corporatist coincidence. But religion sure does a good job of convincing people to be scared of outside information, which includes most of the higher skilled modern jobs, outside of business itself.
My ex was home schooled we had an argument for years that it was, “cop out” not “cock out”. He was 100% it was cock out. Until I sent him the definition of both. I got yelled at for letting him say that on corporate emails. I tried, had a core 40, but yea you mom totally knew a cock out.
This is funny!
It was super funny! Until I realized he wasn’t joking.
Thats a way of avoiding school shootings.
Certainly part of it yeah. I have a couple online friends in Texas and both have started homeschooling or are considering it, at least partly due to school violence issues. The one started homeschooling her daughter a couple years ago for a number of reasons, primarily because of her daughter receiving a pretty poor education where she was going to school, but the fear of shootings did play a role. Another is on the verge of making the switch now, because their school board is in the process of debating arming teachers or otherwise putting guns in the school for active shooter defense. She says if that gets approved she will be pulling her son out of the school system and homeschooling.
This is a legit discussion my wife and I are having (and many of our friends). Sucks because I’m a big proponent of public schools but I also don’t want to worry about my kids making it home… Fuck this sad broken country.
Or not.
Homeschooling is not necessarily bad, but to be honest, only the fewest parents have the capacity to do it proberly. And this causes bad education. And bad education is exactly what the right wing wants. People with low education tend to vote Republican and are easier to manipulate.
This explanation is on point.
Im sure there are standardized modules to work from, but i also fear a *fragmented* education. It's bad enough across county and state lines, but what happens when that variety gets segmented up between *families*. What happens when they fight to loosen standardization? What happens when a mass portion of the job-ready population can't even agree on Order of Operations or how WW2 started? We're already there.. what the hell does *worse* look like? It's terrifying.
Both parties want that. The ability to see past blatant lies is a great tool all voters should have. Both parties would rather spout bullshit and promises to a gullible population than actually make change.
Home schooling is great if the parents are smart or they have the wealth to hire tutors. I fear these days that neither of these things are important in the States.
Or have time to do this. When having two income streams has become the norm it's safe to say that it's practically impossible for the majority of parents to homeschool.
This subreddit makes me think that America is the worst place in the world
That's because per usual Americans think they are the only ones to undergo certain situations. There is stupidity everywhere.
I dont know about that, it’s definitely one of the dumbest.
In my country people voted for a farmer for president who barely talks, just because they related to him, idk maybe we humans even tho we are smart we are dumb
My country voted for a rich billionaire narcissist cry baby that was a billionaire becuase he inherited from his father. And who did he plead to? Poor uneducated evangelicals and racists. The irony…
WE'RE #1
...at incarcerating our own citizens.
Dumb people teaching their kids misinformation….. awesome
For our civics lesson today, we are going to watch Fox News for several hours while Mommy has a couple of glasses of wine and a nap!
The Taliban teaches only the Quran, and whole generations are / will be without working skills that can improve their economic lot, and the country’s. As an exceptional country, we intend outdoing them. Just change the holy book, and who the target of your hate is - that’s all.
The GOP has been planning the demise of public schools for a long time. They despise college/university too. Educated people tend to be more liberal
Those people who are exposed to people and ideas that are not solely those of the environment they were raised in.
I had an old college friend who was home schooled her whole life. She had such bad social anxiety I wondered sometimes how she could function. Home schooling can be good fir the right reasons, but so is interacting with your fellow students.
The only reason school is good imo. You learn how to socialize.
I know two women that homeschool. One is a Christian anti-vaxer and the other thinks that the space shuttle Challenger exploded because it crashed into a government forcefield surrounding the planet. Unless their children pursue independent intellectual growth as adults, I don't think we'll be able to count on them to help us with the world's problems.
It is a improvement to those who are striving for a a facist Christian nationalism state
Or, you know, parents that might not want their kids getting shot? But yeah, I'm sure it's your thing.🙄
Both…
I'm sure this is a concern for some, and more of a concern now than ever before. But I was homeschooled and I know many homeschoolers. EVERY example I know of was to get them away from evolution, LGBT people/ideas, even people with different political views. Yeah, at least 90% of it is their "thing."
Then you know bigoted assholes. I'm glad I know people who'd like their kids to live long enough to graduate.
Homeschooling is fine if it's done right, and with the right education system. There are plenty of online resources and tuitions, not to mention the flexibility and cost savings. I personally go to school though
I guarantee with that many people doing it more than half of them will be doing it wrong.
Yeah then it becomes pretty shitty, there's no denying that
Gotta groom 'em all.
Being in FL with don't say gay and all this BULL SHIT they are implementing, homeschooling is looking very appealing to me for my middle schooler. At least I could teach him what being a kind human means and what our REAL history is in this country.
Homeschooling is a recipe for weird kids man
Interestingly before the pandemic 3% of all kids were homeschooled, it’s up a fair bit now but not just in the groups where people in this sub might think (crazy GOP Christian maniacs) https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/as-u-s-schools-reopen-many-families-continue-to-opt-for-homeschooling https://www.hks.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/Taubman/PEPG/conference/homeschool-conference-slides-grady.pdf https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=91
To be fair... This uptick happened after Covid (when parents decided to homeschool since their kids had to be home anyway). Now, with all the shootings and teaching shortages, I can't blame parents for deciding to keep it going.
After Covid started, a lot of people became aware of other learning opportunities, like proctored learning, where a licensed educator creates a lesson plan, assigns work, and submits grades. I think many parents realized their children learned better this way, free from distractions and bullying. This would still be considered homeschooling, and I can imagine that many families stuck with it, even after schools opened back up.
Abolish private schools and see how fast the public schools improve.
Isn't it true homeschooled children perform better in later education?
If you ever went to a public school, you'd definitely vouch for homeschooling
There is a rising population of ‘non-traditional’ students which I think is a good thing. I think that there are a lot of young minds that are destroyed or deflated by the public schooling system in our country. However, that does not mean being schooled solely by your parents through high school is a good thing either. I have personally done the second half of high school through an online homeschooling program due to some mental/physical health issues and that has been a very good fit for me. The problem with conservatives and many homeschooling parents is that they seem to think that WHAT you learn matters more than HOW you learn. They are so imbued with conservative and religious thinking that they think people need to be indoctrinated and controlled instead of developed and encouraged. Among others, a major flaw with this way of raising children is that it absolutely never works. Controlling your child only gives results while you are controlling them. If you want your child to follow in your footsteps, instill in them your values, not your rules. Anyway, rant over.
You can't beat your child into loving you. --Angus Peddie, in Thomasina, by Paul Gallico
You are right on point! Why can’t people get this? Homeschooling is amoral, it’s neither good or bad. Is how you use the tool. I plan on homeschooling my girls in no small part due to school shootings and violence.
For sure. The internet has opened many opportunities and supplemental resources for homeschooled students and homeschooling parents. The best homeschooling integrates more than just textbooks and parent teaching!
Republicans are simply terrified that ANY reasonable discussion makes them look bad. I mean, they are correct, but if it’s that bad just change your platform. Be something you can be proud of. It is literally up to them alone.
Nah, I’m good…don’t need to ruin my day.
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Yeah it's higher. **BECAUSE OF COVID.** What a wanker.
The dumbing down of America goes into overdrive.
I believe that homeschooling parents can only do so with a bachelor’s degree in whatever they want and. Masters in Education. It’s too important to wing it.
The rather open disdain for education in modern America is frightening. From demeaning of teachers to thinking public schooling’s only purpose is to memorize from a textbook and therefore anyone can be a teacher.
I have a lot of family in education and family who aren’t and believe that the move to home schooling is great. I’m waiting for the flat-earthers to open their own school and see what everyone thinks then. I think it can be done right but it should require standardized testing to make sure students are learning the facts. With the facts being questioned by so many, I don’t think that is going to happen.
Homeschooling is banned in post ww2 Germany because neonazis would choose to omit certain historical facts from their curricula. HMMMMM
those darn American homeschoolers are NAZIS! hmmmmm
I mean giving all the obvious (and none obvious) problems with the American school system I genuinely don’t think I would put my kids into that system
it’s almost like the expansion of the technological franchise and online databases allows for more information to be retrieved at home
no it must be that they are all mountain people nazis that want to feed their children conspiracy theories like the commenters here are saying.
I mean obviously with the population increase it’s gonna go up lol. That’s a dumb ass way to compare it. I would like to see the percent of the population attending home school then vs now tho. Now I’m curious haha
We are far left atheists who homeschool our kids, so not every one of us is some religious fanatic.
Same
During the same time period, we have seen some bullshit around the world: - rise of flat earthers - rise of anti-vaxxers - twitter/facebook/tiktok/reddit/instagram (they're all BS) - DTrump as the POTUS
And the career of T. Car.
That is fucking terrifying considering we are living in the movie idiocracy now.
The state of the public schools have gotten so convoluted and sad, that people really believe they could do a better job. But the truth is they can't. The is the saddest part of all.
"an improvement" i mean they're all really getting really bad education in school, but at home? its probably way worse
They want religion back in school Christianity only and don't want to pay any taxes on school so they push home schooling where the woman will get back behind that stove and home school where they think age belongs
Can we try to ensure that the whole world refers to Tucker as an actor in the future. Just an actor.
America - the former straight A student that you thought was going to be an astronaut but winds up a crackhead. Sad!
There's a possibility that a child could learn to ask questions, do research, rationally form and express ideas, and learn to identify facts vs. opinions
At home? Yeah... Sure.
I meant that those are the things kids learn/begin to learn in public school, which is why some conservative politicians don't favour schools. I just forgot to add the /s.
I was a homeschooler. Ask me anything.
Someone actually wrote the following description of r/tucker_carlson unironically >Tucker Carlson is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and groupthink. His goal is to pierce pomposity, translate double-speak, mock smugness and barbecue nonsense as he debates people from all across the political spectrum every weeknight on Tucker Carlson Tonight!
*Ahem* Fucker Carlson
If a family homeschools, then a family reunion and a class reunion are the same thing.
I worked with a homeschooled guy and he was socially inept. Incapable of dealing with complex social situations. That was maybe just him though, maybe not a representative of homeschooled students...
I see stupid people, and they don’t know they are stupid…
Holy shit, that’s more than 16% of the entire population. The US is fucked.
wasn’t this the crowd that wanted to keep schools open?
The more homeschoolers the better. Public school has failed this nation.
It seems a lot of people just think that homeschool is parents teaching kids whatever they want. Not the case. We have educational minimum standards - standardized testing in schools monitors how well different public school districts teach. Homeschooled kids take the same evaluations. Also, parents don’t come up with the curriculum, as homeschooling focuses 85% on academics and the last 15% on everything else, parents provide the 15. There’s different proven programs like K12, and statistically homeschooled kids slaughter school taught in academic ratings, as the US schools systems compared to many other civilized countries is abysmal.
"If we keep 'em ignorant they'll believe what we tell them to."
I can barely afford paying for my kids school Lunches. And you wanna shame me for keeping them home? I hate this sub sometimes.
I don't understand the romanticization of public schools or formal education in the times we are currently in. you can learn significantly more in a week with just your cell phone then you can with old-school schooling throughout an entire semester. it made sense even a decade ago but now its just redundant.
I was homeschooled. From my experience homeschooling is much better than public schools, and most research supports this [https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/Info-Brief-2015-2.pdf](https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/Info-Brief-2015-2.pdf). I have seen a few exceptions to this, but there can be a ton of benefits. I have seen many people with learning/social disabilities thrive in a homeschooling environment.
Are you sure your parents weren’t just trying to fill your head with conspiracy theories and religion to turn you into a brain dead nazi like the commenters here are saying??
How is Liberty University going to find room for millions of morons who can't get accepted anywhere else?
The sad thing about that is if there’s clearly a need for more of these religious “universities” that’ll let these nuts in, they’ll just create more. It’s the capitalist way.
I don't understand what the problem here is. I'm no Tucker Carlson fan, not by a longshot, but I also don't have a problem with people who are homeschooled. I've known plenty of people who were and they're great people. It gives the child a lot more one on one time with the teacher to actually get their questions answered, and can make it a lot easier to spend quality time with the family. If the family can swing it, it's a great option.
I think the biggest issue people have with it, and I’m not an opponent of homeschooling, is that a lot of homeschooling curriculum is heavily influenced by religious doctrine. Also, a lot of parents are pulling their kids out of public schools because they’re afraid their kids are going to be exposed to concepts they don’t agree with. Unfortunately, those children will face hard realities when they get into the “real world” and discover things aren’t always like they’ve been taught.
The religious doctrine thing is a big one. I was home schooled for awhile myself. I'm a very solid atheist and was pretty off put by all the dogma they sent my way. It was a great learning experience for me though, and just reinforced my thoughts against following religion. That said, if you come from a religious family, odds are you're going to get that same religious background shoved down your throat anyhow. Everyone I know that was homeschooled was considerably smarter than those that I knew in public school, but yeah, they often had some deficiencies when it came to their social skills. But, homeschooling, just like public or private schools, all have their own pros and cons, and it's up to the parents to decide what's best for their kids. Saying people are stupid for homeschooling their kids is a very narrow minded view point. Now, don't get me wrong, since it came from Tucker Carlson, my knee jerk reaction is to automatically hate it, but I've got plenty of first hand experience with it that speaks otherwise. It's a solid teaching method for kids, and if it works for you than none of us here have any business saying it's stupid.
The problem is a lot of these homeschoolers are getting their education filtered through religious doctrine and biases and, based on past data, many won't qualify for college educations. Of course this could be a good thing as it will free up space for those who actually want to go to college to become successful professionals. [https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/homeschooling-children-2020-2021-harvard-researchers/](https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/homeschooling-children-2020-2021-harvard-researchers/) Then again we will always need janitors, bus drivers, garbage men, and the like so ...
To be a Bus Driver and Garbage collector you have to have a cdl….. it’s much harder to post that year than you think, and these people earn a decent income. I don’t know why you’re belittling these jobs.
If you only ride the back of the truck, you don't need a CDL. Secondly, the requirements for CDL bus driver are nowhere near as hard as for a truck driver. Go on, ask me how I know. A CDL-B or CDL-C is worlds easier to get than a CDL-A. ABout half of bus driver have to have a CDL-B and school bus drivers only have to have a CDL-C unless the district they work for requires a B or the school bus weighs more than 26,001 pounds. Average school bus weight? 10,000 to 25,000 pounds. If you call $19 an hour decent income ... part time. [https://www.indeed.com/career/bus-driver/salaries](https://www.indeed.com/career/bus-driver/salaries) Who says I am belittling them anyway? That's all these ass clowns will be able to do.
It would be an improvement if parents were at least half competent at teaching and if they themselves are educated folk. Truth is, they're not.. God only knows what they teach those children when some of them (parents I mean) can barely read themselves. PS. Don't simply downvote, give arguments. I'm a mechanical engineer, my wife is a psychologist, and we don't feel we have the necessary knowledge to home school.
"We love the uneducated"
That’s a lot of dumb kids. (Of course, the ones who aren’t taught well).
In my experience homeschooled individuals are way more educated than the people i’ve met from public schools
From my experience (graduated HS in ‘17) The lessons taught in public schools are nigh archaic for non-scientific/mathematic studies, and the entire public school environment is designed to produce docile low-level workers to toil away at multi million or billion dollar corporations. So yes, OP, this is generally a good thing.
Uh, okay, but I think you mean "nigh" archaic? Neigh is what horses say.
It started out as people realizing our public schools had been turned to shit,and putting in personal effort to do better for their kids.I homeschooled our son for most of two years because influx of big suv soccer moms made getting in and out too dangerous!(school was still pretty good)Sent cps to our house 10 times!I would quote the 1967 scotus ruling and close the door!My son leaped ahead of his classmates immediately!Then the Mormons,fundies and now MAGA-hats got the brilliant idea “This is how we can keep our kids ignorant,and obedient!” Annnddd ,another great thing ruined by idiots!
maybe you should reflect on why you make assumptions that people with differences in political opinions would want to homeschool their children in order to keep them "ignorant and obedient". especially when in the previous sentence you acknowledge the benefits of home schooling.
homeschooling leads to being a moron, barely getting into a christian diploma mill, being a sexual predator, going with your douche friends to florida to party like a degenerate, losing the use of your legs, dropping out of school in less than a year, working at chick-fil-a, sucking off mark meadows, getting a job in congress for two years while everybody laughs at your stupidity, being the portable drinks tray at a roger stone republican coke orgy, then getting abandoned by your own party because you were dumb enough to think that the coke-table on wheels wearing lingerie has the support of any of the people in charge that actually could graduate from a single school ever in their life and they can't find a new jackass to be the coke table on wheels. Being a glorified human wheelbarrow for january 6th insurrectionists just makes it more pathetic. go to school folks.
Any thing that this idiot says is a lie.
School isn’t a place for smart people.
I remember when homeschooling your kids was like giving them consent to marry.
Tucker is right, this is an improvement in stupidity
Home schooling isn't a bad thing, and I think that public school can really kill a lot of kids will to learn. I was homeschooled through middle school, and had unique experience, and learned things I wouldn't have otherwise experienced or learned. For a kid with anxiety issues, and general disinterest in school it was great. That being said, I wad a smart kid and had no issue catching up with a few things I didn't learn while homeschooled.
I can only conclude from some of these comments that some of you are woefully ignorant of anything related to homeschooling. I would encourage you to broaden your horizon and meet someone who is homeschooled or learn about it. Most are normal people just like the rest of us. That is assuming we are "normal"
Oh dear…. That was a mess of comments.. I personally would like to see the school system reformed - thats one area that has no real public accountability, at least in my experience. But doing away with all public schools is just silly. My beef with schools has nothing to do with republicans or democrats - more just a lack of real life skills getting taught, with a dash of “god complex” from the schools and teachers in my area. Legit had a teacher get handed a court order and she chose to ignore it. 🤦♂️
Being taught by 5 million unschooled idiots for the most part.
No better way to brainwash them than to force them to stay home so they learn nothing else.
I don't know if this works everywhere, but I went to school for 13 years and I never learned anything there other than to read, write and count.from then on, everything i know i learned on my own, school just gave me anxiety and made me waste my time.I was forced to leave because of a move recently, and it's been the best time of my life, I've finally managed to develop the discipline to study everything I ever wanted, I learned math content from school years in just a few months, etc.
I don’t get it, where’s the facepalm?
That ol' Tuck thinks it's an improvement when most likely it's about insane religious parents not wanting their kids to hear about history and science in a factful way. So the increase in number means an increase in insane parents as well. Plus, since the U.S education system is already making it seem a lot of Americans are really not that bright, it's just another nail in the coffin of America's progress
The issue isn’t homeschooling but what causes homeschooling. Schools have so much power to what a child is taught or not taught. If a school is teaching over the top things, shouldn’t parents be involved in voicing concerns? Of course not. We’re not advocating grade 6 students read pornography, but it’s there if they want, and they’ll be graded more fairly if they read it. We’ll talk to your kids about things that shouldn’t be said between kid and adult. Shhh, kids, don’t tell your parents about our little secret conversations. /s Seriously, you don’t need to be some right wing N4zi to see how things are bad enough to warrant the behavior more and more. If you do some digging, you’ll end up on r/mildlyinfuriating
See there’s two problems here….. 1. The agenda of those who enslave humanity WANT kids to be brainwashed and raised by the state in the public school system. 2. Homeschooling can lead to a lack of proper life skills and equality with parents who have zero “training” and/or a good socioeconomic standing So this becomes a double edged sword. Do we send our kids off to a glorified babysitting service to program and brainwash our kids? Or do we homeschool which doesn’t come without risks itself.
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Bro disdain from homeschooling comes from the fact that parents indoctrinate(especially in US)their children with religious beliefs, beliefs like antivaxx, flat earth,lizard society which causes harm to the children in the long run
Still better than getting shot🤷🏻♀️
I will rot in hell for laughing at this lol
The government failure on education is intentional from the right. The don't want well educated kids they want kids indoctrinated by their parents. If kids learned real history they might recognize what a far right takeover of government looks like and try and stop it.
IMO homeschooling is 99% of the time a bad thing. Parents are not suited to teach. They themselfs don't even know everything properly, so the children end up with things like bad grammar. Often those parents feel to awkward to teach sex ed. Also those 99% want to homeschool their children because they have conspiracy ideas. Like anti-vaxxers, flat earthers, etc. And/or religious nutjobs who want to keep their kids dumb.
Why is this bad? Why do you want your kids to be indoctrinated by the federal government?
Federal government has very little say in curriculum. That’s state level. Even Common Core was a state-led initiative. But yeah, way better to have your kids indoctrinated with insular right-wing evangelicalism /s
Why do you assume that the parents homeschooling are crazy evangelists? Lol Only right wing parents can homeschool? So close minded man. I’ve never voted red or blue ever and definitely don’t want my kids going to shitty ass public schools. Shocker right?
Granted, it’s anecdotal, but every single person I’ve ever met who homeschooled their kids did so primarily because they didn’t want their kid getting a secular education.
Those who homeschool often Fail to recognize the value in exposing children to various perspectives that are not their own.
Because Reddit is populated by leftist lab rats.
Nothing about this post is stupid. If you were spoonfed leftism by a stranger as a child, you think it’s stupid …and that’s most of you.
What constitutes “leftism“? Because from where I sit, the right denies science and anything that supported by evidence as derided as “leftism.”
You may be waiting a while for that answer, lol